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Are there separate educational institutions that cater to the four different native language groups of Switzerland? Are there separate German schools, French schools and Italian schools? Do German-speaking children learn French and vice versa?
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No. 47070
>Are there separate German schools, French schools and Italian schools?
I guess so. Also television etc.

>Do German-speaking children learn French and vice versa?
I hear every pupil must learn one of the other two languages. I hear some Italians choose to learn French and some French choose Italian just because it's obviously easier for them than learning German. Among those that choose German, quite a few don't speak it as well as you would expect them to after years of study. My guess is that those cases result from a combination of the universally observed ineffectiveness of school language learning (English, and perhaps, to a much lesser extent, Japanese and Spanish, are different because those are the languages of pop culture relevant to their interests or of cool) with the fact that the German they learn in school is not what's usually spoken in Switzerland; you may know about there being various local dialects (not all mutually intelligible), Swiss German as a commonly understood form, and thirdly Swiss Standard German as taught in schools and used in written mass media. This is unlike the situation in French Switzerland, where the traditional dialects have all but died out and what's spoken is basically standard French and everyone understands each other's speech.

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No. 47071
Also such maps as posted by OP can mislead if you don't know what the colours mean.
I think French and "German" for a large part have a fairly stable linguistic border, with little thoroughly mixed territory. I think there isn't such a clear-cut border for territories with relatively high proportions of speakers of R. vs. almost monolingually "German" territory.
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No. 47094
>>47071
Totally unrelated for the most part but how much are the French and German parts of your borderzone blurred? Because when I went to some family thing a year ago or whatever it was somebody brought up the area of where that part of the family comes from I think? I forget but someone said something and it occurred to me looking at my family how much they all actually looked like they were part French as much if not more than part German. So ever since then I've actually been wondering if we've actually come from a French family that happened to be living inside German territory.
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>>47094
>Totally unrelated for the most part but how much are the French and German parts of your borderzone blurred?
You mean the Romance–Germanic linguistic border in eastern France near Germany, right?

I can't tell from first-hand experience, having only spent a couple of minutes in that area after taking a wrong lane in Basel and accidentally emerging in France, so the following may be wrong.

In today's southwestern Germany, I think there has not been any indigenous Romance-speaking territory for many centuries, and no continuous minority communities either, unless you include urban expat communities whose members either assimilate or leave, never keeping French for more than a generation within any one family, unless perhaps Huguenot refugee communities long ago, if there even were any in those parts.

In today's eastern France, I think the situation in 2020 is very different from 1870. I think in 2020, the Germanic topolects are on the way out. I would be surprised if the 19th and 20th centuries didn't see the educational systems on both sides of the border exerting strong pressure to discourage the use of the "wrong" language or topolect, hoping this will in the long term turn everyone into loyal subjects of the respective nation state. My guess is that in 1870 (and perhaps as late as the 1940s), what would after the war become Alsace-Lorraine consisted of monolingually Germanic-speaking areas as well as mixed areas with varying percentages of Romance speakers, probably with few discernible linguistic borders, plus – in the far west – small amounts of monolingually Romance-speaking territory which Prussia-Germany deemed too economically or militarily advantageous to not annex in 1871, whereas in less important areas, the new border somewhat aligned with the linguistic one of westernmost extent of Germanic or significant Germanic minorities. So, west of Alsace-Lorraine, no significant minorities of Germanic speakers. East of Alsace-Lorraine, no significant minorities of Romance speakers, see above. Romance presence always less significant in Alsace than Lorraine.

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So what actually marks the boundaries of what it means to be human, a person, or between human and personhood?

This might sound like a really dumb question but when you actually inspect it you'll notice that there's all kinds of legal, moral, ethical, philosophical, genetic/scientific, anthropological, and other issues and controversies inherent to this. Among this are things like abortion and being a moral agent, and at which points you cannot be considered a moral agent and/or vested with the full rssponibilities to "personhood" as well as which signifiers stretch as beyond the "mere beast" and into becoming fully Man a great deal of which are shared radically among many other species to the extent that some of them could be arguably proven to hold greater capacities in some areas than notable members of our own, such as empathy in psychopaths--which itself further begs the question of where someone like a psychopath falls along those lines of personhood, being human, and what is meant by "shared humanity" which they abundantly lack, and what their full legal and moral culpability is considered to be as opposed to a full grown adult man who may do the same thing but is not given the death penalty because he's clinically retarded, and how that man will be imprisoned rather than someone who is fully psychotic and simply put in a mental hospital all for the same crimes. It begs the question of behaviorism and the limitations of Western categorical inquiries as well, which though it's clear most things in life outside computers are not either/or binaries those loose categories can at times be helpful.

I ask this now partly because Man's relationship to doge is somehow the most human thing ever to me, but also because lately I've been mulling over the question after realizing the extent to which certain people are so totally lacking the components of both empathy AND intellect so as to be barely distinguishable to me as something that can be called a true person, or is at the very minimum indistinguishable from a bot.

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How do we find the kingdom of Heaven from within, as Jesus spake? me have deep and tumultuous psych problems which are affecting my body adversely and more specifically the gut (IBS), and medication is just making me suffer too. I am thinking if we accessed our kingdoms from within, we could conquer our personal demons which afflict us all, and yes I am willing to believe this thing but I do not know how to access it and Jesus is kinda vague, so, I humbly request your help Ernst.
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>>48428
That's...not really true. Revelations is probably among the most fascinating parts of the Bible though as it's probably the most multifaceted. That tract exists both fully outside of time and space and within it. If you think it's helpful to deal with it in more Jungian terms there is indeed probably a hidden component of that although afaik the Kabbalic Tree of Life isn't necessarily interwoven however it does contain a great degree of mysticism along with certain descriptors of past events and things to come repeatedly, it's just the one final one people fixate on and also conveniently forget things like the time spaces it's freaking a thousand years for one specific time for example.

Of course I come here and likewise find myself asking if there is any way to flatline one's sex drive entirely without resorting to SSRI abuse. Porn is probably the one thing that genuinely displeases me about myself and it is altogether something disgusting about our society that should be abolished.
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No. 48432
>>48430
>uh, well, AKSHULLY that's bullshit
<but it's a multifaceted text soo maybee but I wouldn't count on it

Ahem, for the record, I got this info from a theologian, but, if it is truly G-d's Word then it should apply to everything within the universe, wouldn't it? To minimize yourself to a specific plane or dimension is ungodlike, to constrain yourself in it is something the creature would do rather than the creator. And if this is Logos, shouldn't it akshully be everywhere?

Think about it.
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No. 48435
The gospel isn't a self-help guide to solve all of your problems, which is unfortunately how American Christianity tends to view it. It's a call and a guide to transform you into a better human being. Develop a universal compassion for your fellow man, and you'll find the Kingdom of Heaven within you (this will also bring great inner peace, but that's not the primary goal).

Religion aside, have you tried modifying your diet? My own autoimmune problems (as I understand it, IBS is often autoimmune related) have been improved a lot more by diet than by any prescribed medication. My basic rule is "no grains, legumes, or dairy", which I borrowed from a friend who improved a lot by following it. When I keep to that rule strictly, my own health and well-being improve dramatically. This is close to some Auto-Immune Protocol diets, as well as some paleo ones, so it's not just me. The underlying theory is that these foods trigger damaging autoimmune responses in a lot of people, and AFAIK there's some research to back that up. But I do know it works for me, and it's worth trying out for a month to see if it works for you.

It can be frustrating to switch to at first, but after a week or two you stop craving things like bread and cheese. Potatoes and sweet potatoes are alright to eat, so get a lot of them. If you can't persist without grains at all, white rice is supposedly the least bad.
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>>48421
>t. has not read any of the Bibles.
I don't know how you can consider yourself an educated person if you haven't even read the Bible. It's not just for religious nuts, you know.

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Other people in lockdown too? Adelaide is not fucking around with that sort of things.
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>>48383
Oh shit should've finished the thread first, self kontra

I know even here it might be unpopular due to anti-oldmedia mouthbreathers but you should check out the US news outlets like NBC on this. I really feel particularly bad for our medical personnel, who have to first deal with death threats by Qtards who think they're "in on it" to "spread plandemic propaganda against Trump" and then have to see the same coofers in their ICU insisting they just have a flu because "Covid isn't real" while trying to not get pozzed themselves.

And thus ends the question I had developed over a year ago which is what it would look like for me to go back in time to the plague and try to instruct these superstitious peasant bydlo on what infectious disease is and how to cure themselves, which at the time I'd concluded my only option would be to risk running afoul of the Pope as I told them to take a special euacharist blessed by God Himself which was actually just penicillin infused bread not legitimate Jesus biscuits. The interesting thing is how inadequate to downright aggressively counterproductive the authorities usually are in every epidemic stretching back to antiquity. There's some great docus on the "Spanish" Flu and one of the interesting things is how hard Philadelphia got utterly fucked because they held a huge parade with politicians actively working contrary to itself inadequate health advice (but still accurate policy) and with dumbasses even 102 years ago arguing against masks.

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>>48392
That's because it is not actually a health strategy--it is an economic one. People like DeSantis, Trump, his lapdog Atlas, and all the others are solely concerned about Kushner's shekels, because a quarter million consumers and employees is easily repleacableespecially with pro-business mass immigration policies you can then blame on Marxists or some silly shit but a stock shekel is priceless.

It's largely the same more or less in every large epidemic. The political and wealthy elites panic about losing influence and wealth and immediately begin downplaying it or claiming it cannot happen here while sending the peasants back to work and die while they themselves all flee to the countryside as the urban centers start piling up with corpses. Somehow a sufficient number of bydlo themselves end up not recognizing that is exactly what they are doing. This is frequently followed by pro-labour policies and reforms. It also often coincides with wars, climatic shifts, and/or famines. Nearly all pandemics happen because of war or trade.
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>>48376
And why is that? Because they didn't do it right the first time because of the exact same arguments. This shortsightedness is even worse than the 50s nuclear testing. Fucking bunch of idiots, I hate politicians so, so much.
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I hope that you guys are stockpiled as we've already began slamming into full on shortages, including toilet paper
https://amp.sacbee.com/news/local/article247296579.html
My kingdom, my kingdom for an arsewipe

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Old thread is kill, this is the new Radio Ernstiwan thread. In case you're new: The best stream is The Weekly Album stream, the others can be ignored.

Share your musical taste and your seductive voice (no homo) with your fellow Ernsts, and help making this chan not only enojoyable for the eyes and mind, but also for the ears. As always, there are no restrictions whatsoever in what to stream. Just share what you like, every streamer has his own ideas and style, and it only makes the radio more interesting.

The radio is available here: http://radio.ernstchan.xyz:8000/

There's also a chat and a discord where you usually find people talking about gay porn and penguins during the streams.

https://discord.gg/UpXdrxG
http://ernst.bplaced.net/chat/blabax.php (You can register with an email or make a guest account which will tie your name to your IP. If you have a changing IP and want to keep your name register with email)

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Currently the radio host server is offline. That's also the reason why EC is loading slow: The polling of the radio status data runs into timeouts. Seems to me like a problem on our provider's site, can't really do anything except wait and hope they fix it soon.
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No. 48423 Kontra
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Seems to be fixed now. All hail to our shady provider.
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Todays winner is "Alice in Chains - Facelift".

Next weeks poll: https://poll.fm/10662776
Like always we start at 18:00 Germany time which is in around 1 hour from now.

Visit the chat and listen to the pre-stream.
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No. 48461 Kontra
sorry guys, tonight I'm not down for streaming

kinda feeling low

self-Kontra for baw

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>>47688
Posted about Happiness, but threda autosage'd so here's v4 of the best thread. Here's the repost:

Watched Happiness (1935), a silent movie about a yokel with this stronk wife who live and work a farm, being bled dry by the classes of old Russia - Priests, kulaks, military, thieves, etc. The movie itself really isn't that good save for its historical context.

Our yokel attempts to perform his own funeral which makes all the parasites who live off his work terrified because if he dies, "Then who will feed Russia?". The clergy accuse the fool of sacrilege - the military takes him and they sentence him to die 7 times in the Carpathians. His strong heroic wife joins a kolkhoz, leads a shock worker bridge and scores a bountiful harvest. The collective farm awards her applause, praise and even sheep. There is still trouble in the kolkhoz as remants of the old classes try to steal from the collective and start acts of sabotage. Alcoholics and 'loafers' are shown to be the reason why the collective isn't doing EVEN better.
The evildoers attempt to steal the grain stockpile, the main character who was demoted to standing guard fails to keep safe the people's grain and those damned reactionary forces steal both the warehouse and our protagonist. In the end, the collective DESTROYS them by shucking melons at them because their harvests were so incredible and bountiful that they could assault food thieves with them. After this victory by the shock workers of our collective farm, the couple goes shopping in a fashionable and well stocked clothes store in a nice and organized city.

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Re-watched it. Seen it a long time ago, when I was still mostly a child, and don't remembered much exept that I like it in general. And despite that, it has 6.6/10 on IMDB, in my personal opinion this movie way above that. It have a very ground industrial presentation of the near future. There a lot of similarities in the film with the original Alien, but in general it is even more grounded than this - by technology presentation, and in general by plot - there no mystic or real science "fiction" or fantasy like some alien, or monster. You may describe it as criminal drama. The future presented here is not bright, but not ultra-dirty post-apoc or something. And while overall plot is quite standart, because of the character behaivor I'll not say that this is a cliche experience. Antagonists... people in general here are not caricatures in my opinion, lets say without the spoilers that everyone knows what happening and don't pretending to be an idiot.
Movie quite forgotten nowdays sadly, in my opinion it should be more popular classic. IIRC director of this movie later started to make some ultra cheap crap. Sad!
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No. 48310
>>48307
Pretty ok movie. I wouldn't say ultra cheap crap but not excellent either.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001382/?ref_=tt_ov_dr
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No. 48313
>>48307
I'd put it in the same boat as Battle Beyond the Stars despite the thematic differences, with them both being attempts to remake very good films (High Noon, Seven Samurai) in a way to appeal to the sci-fi fad of the early 80s (from memory, Outland was intended to be a western but no producer would take it as one). They had pretty good visuals but were average movies at best. So yeah, the reason the plot is standard is because it's an adaptation of one of the most iconic and influential westerns of all time.
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Watched Fraktus. It's basically This Is Spinal Tap, only about a German electronic band instead of British metal one. It would be probably more enjoyable for people interested in German techno/electro scene, since it contains a lot of specific humour and references and they have a lot of cameos of famous electronic musicians and producers, but I with my meager knowledge on the subject still found it pretty funny (the scene when the band reclaims their old instruments was the funniest one, IMO). Also, despite Fraktus' songs are meant to be silly, they're still pretty catchy (just like Spinal Tap's Stonehenge which had the cheesiest lyrics possible and which I unironically like).

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No. 48406
>>48403
Candles are cozy. Your mother is a wise woman.
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No. 48407
>>48403
I experienced more than two dozen blackouts in my life, candles are extremely important if you don't want to go insane with no electricity. You can't read, you can't play, you can't watch anything and instead you simply stare into the literal abyss for hours til you grow bored and fall asleep.
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The general state of affairs on the part of the students is appalling.
It just doesn't feel like people take university seriously.

I don't understand how you can say that "everything they teach us is made up meme bullshit" while being at a humanities department.
I mean, why are you even here if not for the capital H Humanities the average prole on the street considers "made up meme bullshit"?
Why not become a bricklayer instead or something?
Where is the passion? Maybe this is the best way of describing it. There's a serious lack of passion and interest.

Some can't even use a fucking dictionary or a keyboard, or maybe they're just so fucking starved for social interaction that they ask stupid questions to fill in the void.

Nobody takes anything seriously. If everything is so inconsequential, then why not just jump off the operating table right after being born?
Maybe I'm just beginning to lose it.

It just feels like that the 2000-2001 generation is all things considered a failure. People constantly tell us that the class/group coming before us didn't have problems with the things we have problems with.

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No. 48411
>>48408
>It just doesn't feel like people take university seriously.
If Hungary is anything like the US, most people who go to university go simply because it's expected of them. It's just another bourgeois rite of passage.

>The lesson for today is:
>Stop caring about the retardation of others because I'm probably just as retarded, I just can't see it because of my over-inflated ego.
This is the best attitude to take, but don't loose your chuunibyou seriousness. It's a necessary condition to succeed in anything that matters in life.

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New news thread.

Got any interesting articles or breaking stories? Someone wrote a thoughtful editorial that resonated with you? Read some one-sided opinion piece that cements your current understanding of the world?

Post it all here.
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No. 48357
>>48356
Union literature is very contextual. The Radical stuff (esp. industrial unionism and syndicalist unions) works only when you've got an audience for it, but will actually turn people away if they aren't interested and you probably won't unionise a workplace other than yours. Find a local union that suits your needs, and ask if they've got literature for you to take to work. Usually they will have booklets with application forms and crap that you can sit on a table in the staff room or something and have people get educated by curiosity. Having the easy access of an application form and an introduction in one breaks down the barrier to enrolling that is it being a hassle to get everything together.

If you're looking at retail, your best bet is a workers' union since retail is up there with hospitality in terms of weak mainstream unions, you're better off going with a broader labouring union even if your industry isn't going to be their top priority since they tend to have the membership and funds to do anything at all. I don't know the American landscape for organised labour all that well, so you'll have to do some research of your own there.
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No. 48377
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>tab out to find directions on building some character in pathfinder
>oh huh let's see what's in browser homepage news headlines
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tyson-suspends-managers-after-report-that-they-bet-on-workers-covid-infections-01605830802
[desire to organize the workers intensifies]
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>>48377
>Lenin
>Not posting his own homegrown radical unionists instead
Sad!
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Hello Ernst,

could we please forget about all the hypes about Bitcoin etc. and just focus on the technical aspects?

Which cryptocurrency has the best specs? I'm talking in terms of actually using them as payment form, not this whole blockchain contract thing.

Which currency pays fast, is secure, anonymous(?), environmentally-friendly....

I just stumbled across Digibyte and I guess that one is just one of >9000 Altcoins. But its payment speed is 400x faster than Bitcoin and also much faster than Litecoin.

Currently I'm also paying my new VPN subscription using Bitcoin. First I had to convert my remaining Moneros to Bitcoin which took me about 20 min. Then I sent the Bitcoins and after 30 mins I only have 2 confirmations. Yes, I didn't want to spent much money on the fees.

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Hello OP, I'm cryptotrader since mid 2016 and my favorite coins are:
>Ethereum [ETH]
most popular Turing-complete decentralized smart contract platform, basically minecraft and lego of cryptos.
>Monero [XMR] Zcash [ZEC]
privacy oriented coins
>Augur [REP] Kleros [PNK]
decentralized prediction markets and oracles (smart contracts that provide data into blockchain) on ethereum
>Uniswap [UNI] Gnosis [GNO] Balancer [BAL]
decentralized exchanges (DEXes)

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We had a thread on old EC and there were a handful of people trying to lose weight this summer.

Have you made any more progress? Anyone starting to try who wasn't back then?

What are your methods and routines? What is your diet like?

I really wish that German vegetarian poster from KC that yelled at people for avoiding carbs was here. That was always really fun.

Personally, I think my goal of 19 bmi was a bad idea. I don't think there's much health benefit of being that compared to 21 or 22. I weigh what I did at 13 years old now. I'm really happy about that but while it looks good for my stomach it looks worse in other places. I'm probably going to stop here.

I'm most interested in the Finn who had a goal he wanted to reach by July.
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Looking back, it's been just shy of a year since I finished my first 5k. Wow, time really flies. You know, I don't have a lot of quantifiable progress to show for that year in other areas of life, but with running I actually do. I like that. It's linear, orderly.

Speaking of progress, today the overnight temperature had dropped and it was 55F°(13C) when I left the house. I took advantage of the brief morning cold to run a personal best 5k time(20:55). I really love running in the cold. Well, as long as it's not too cold. Finishing under 21 minutes was a milestone I had been pursuing for months, and even though this was a weather assisted time, I'll take the victory.

Thank you for reading my running blog. I hope Ernst is also making strides toward your fitness goals.
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No. 48344
>>48343
Noice, congrats.

Me, I'm just satisfied with the fact that after a month of having to actively motivate myself to jog, I now just get spontaneous urges to go outside and have a jog.

Too early for me to speak about any performance goals, but I guess regularity is a goal in itself.
Speaking of jogging in the cold, I just came back, and it's -11C at 6 AM outside :-DDD. I'm running in jeans and a sweater. I probably look retarded, but I look retarded while jogging anyway, so it's no excuse not to jog.
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>>48344
Thanks.
When I said I didn't like running when it's too cold, I was thinking like in the 40's :DD. You have my respect for facing down that -11C°.
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I'm very close to goal of looking great with my clothes off. Currently at 77kg, alternating cycling and weight lifting every day. In the meantime a girl feel in love with me and she said I have "the body of a Greek God" - she's obviously not a classicist if she compares my mostly amorphous shape to those of ancient deities but I'd be lying if I said that didn't make my day.
I'm getting visible abs and by summer next year I should look great.