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Why is hedonism bad? Why is seeking inward-directed pleasure for its own sake bad?
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>No experience is fundamentally "better" or "worse" than another, they're all just sensations.
If I take a blowtorch to your balls, I doubt you'll maintain that position for long.

You take the philosophical alienation thing too far. At a level beyond embodied human consciousness, it's true that you can't necessarily categorize one feeling or another as "good" or "bad". But we are human, and your experience of reality is inseparable from that reality. I can't think of an appropriate word, but intellectualizing beyond that is a very high level of "not-doing-it-right" or "not-getting-it" (in my humble opinion).

As regards a more limited version of your position: Yes, suffering is not inherently bad. A life without a certain amount of suffering suffers for it. But there are depths of suffering with no redemptive potential, which can only do lasting harm. Lifting weights strengthens you; ripping your arm off means you're a cripple for life; shooting you in the head means you're dead.
No. 51036
That's a nice theoretical system, but how do you expect it to work?

For starters, how do you put this system into place? This will never be implemented by a standard republican government, and violent revolution privileges centralized and ordered movements that are able and willing to impose their will on others. The anarchists in Spain got BTFO and purged by Stalinists. IIRC, every single successful leftist revolution has resulted in rule by a centralized communist party apparatus.

Why and how will the next time be different?
No. 51037
I always argue the general case, rather than specifying a million exceptions.
You can apply the Principle of Charity and take away the specific meaning yourself.

I think it simplifies the discussion and prevents things from spiraling into hair splitting specifics. Does not mean I myself subscribe to the super general case, it's just more pragmatic to consider things "in isolation", because otherwise nothing can be productively discussed.

just my style, though, you might disagree.
No. 51061 Kontra
Organization of the working class and general strike.

Also, don't appeal to status quo as evidence of merit. The assumptions of the capitalist order are every bit as absurd, if not more so than many socialist ones, it's just that Capital has managed a great PR campaign and tricked people into thinking it's the default. Likewise, why will the next attempt at moderate liberal democracy work? Every other time it's been tried you end up with literal fascism or an oligarchy. It's not really a great track record, and it's had a lot more cracks at it.

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Step 1: Post Random Pictures
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit!
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We did it reddit!
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Pope Benedict XVI(now pope emeritus) loved cats, but tradition forbid him from keeping one in his papal apartment.
No. 51364 Kontra
Go back to your cancerous shithole. No, I don't mean reddit, you retarded 4cancer.

Hide No. 37402 Systemkontra [Reply]
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We're back since the old one is on systemkontra now.

This thread is for discussing tabletop gaming, though experience shows that it's mostly been tabletop RPG discussion in various forms ranging from play experience, rules discussion and design talk. We currently have a game group ongoing, based out of a discord server here: https://discord.gg/ZGmpJe9 feel free to drop in. We actually play on most Saturdays at 0600 Zulu.

What are you lot up to in this field lately?
No. 51006
I think I'll be there.
It's hard to say right now, but I'm currently in a "slightly fucked up" state, rather than "have to put conscious and deliberate effort into turning around in my bed because my leg is sore" state, so that's looking good for 12 hours from now.
Fingers crossed lol.
No. 51012 Kontra
Very inconvenient timing to have a comedown.
It's 1 AM here and I'm wide awake.
I don't think I can make it, sorry guys.
If I do, consider it a miracle.
No. 51014
I'll be there to see if a miracle happens. And if not then that's okay, no pressure.
No. 51025
I'll be there too. I got a few things that we can work out Mano a Mano besides. One advantage of such an autosomal system I guess.

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Hello, frens! It's time for another issue of the fable Kohlzine. This one, like we all expected, has a very distinct apocalyptic and viral flavour.
We have uncovered another sura from the depths of a Mossad secret base on Kiev, Bernds wonder how would affect this epidemic to various strata of out society, typical shitposts and confessions and a review of a (let's hope not) prophetic game in these end-times times.

For any doubts or if you want to see the previous issues go to https://kohlzine.neocities.org/
You can also fine information on the last page of this edition.
We hope you have fun with it.

You may enjoy it, Ernsts. Maybe even contribute one day? We aim at having contributors from all over the KC diaspora.
No. 50830
The top priority is to bring back serious discussions. Anyone is welcome to participate.
No. 50837 Kontra
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why don't you keep your pedo kohldrama, KOHLzine and oh so intellectual serious /pol/ and incel frog discussions at fucking KOHLchan? i mean you guys bump this thread since ages, but apparently ernst posts in here only to voice disapproval for the content.
No. 50842 Kontra
I don't read it but at least they're trying. You seldom pull yourself out of the morass in a single day.
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>why don't you keep your pedo kohldrama, KOHLzine and oh so intellectual serious /pol/ and incel frog discussions at fucking KOHLchan?
At least the part about the zine itself doesn't make sense. Nobody forces you to download and read these. What's bad about having it posted here, too?
I don't even use Kohl, it's obvious that the people who have set it up are very different from those behind Krautchan. For example, I've never seen Krautchan use scripts that start cryptomining without my consent. And if this thread derailed into drama (I haven't read it, so I don't know), that may be a bad thing.
But of all Kohl content, the zine is probably the one that Ernsts are most likely to enjoy. So thank you, Poland and Catalonia, for posting it here so I can get it without having to visit Kohl. And thanks for the Libya PDF, it's very nice.
>apparently ernst posts in here only to voice disapproval for the content
I haven't read much yet, but I liked the IWO about the Finnish asbestos town. That's more than I can say about most commercial magazines. No bump so you don't get mad about people bumping this.

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where can I find this suit?
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Years ago, there was an idea for how to use the internet to sell products. All TV shows would be interactive. While watching, a link would be available to purchase the actor's clothing, the food they were eating, the furniture- everything.

This idea never materialized, though. Sad. It might have helped in this exact situation.
No. 50573
Its just a suit blazer with a white dress shirt under it
No. 50598
>hey guys where can I find this random white dress shirt and blackish coat the guy is wearing in this pic
I can't even see the hem dude. Why didn't you just look up "what dinner jackets does Ed Norton wear"?
No. 50724
Ask your Schneider

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So,now that the dust has settled, which ideas of Marx have stood the test of time proving him right?

Is it even possible to have a conversation about marx without political shitflinging?

I'm too dumb to give articulate thoughts to this but I'd be interested in hearing what you super smart dudes on ernst think

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>this is against the orthodox marxist view (according to wikipedia) that you somehow, in a twist, try to defend here
Not really in a twist, when discussing Marxist terms I'll use them in the orthodox meaning. Think of it like discussing the Holy Gospel even if you are an atheist.
No. 50679 Kontra
And that is why I said "coming from the thought that ..." >>50607 to indicate that I don't align with what Marx once wrote in his bible. It is possible to take from a concept or tailor it, by giving arguments for a new cut, one that fits better. That is, afterall, what is going on in the history of philosophy and all other theoretical accounts humans made in the last hundreds of years at least and not just in Europe. Albeit the reference system of science might be a european speciality, I don't know, I just know that references became crucial with books flooding Europe after the invention of the book press afaik. I don't know when a human bean was able to stem a concept out of the dark without going back to what was written (fixed speech/thought, external memory) before. Selecting what (thoughts) to adopt from that past, and which not.
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Yes, but what goes on today is far more interesting than Marx's theories of original accumulation.
The consolidation of the global economy into large corporate entities, how different nations function in this new reality and how the citizenry of developed nations must adapt to the new world around them, are all interesting concepts. What's more interesting is the unknown that lies ahead of us in how societies will respond to overwhelming changes, but it's as if we don't notice it. It's entirely possible that modern man is used to be racing towards the unknown and has become careless, but I think it's more likely that ultimately there is nothing we can do.
Returning to Marxist materialism, I think a more apt description of how material reality pushes societies into shifting is that various hard constants define the bounds of functional and efficient societies. Sliding out of this golden path of efficiency leads to nations facing a handicap in some Darwinian sense. It would be unthinkable for liberal nations to have all encompassing surveillance regimes not too long ago, but the availability of the technology, it's ease of implementation given advances in infrastructure and the ubiquitousness of smartphones created the modern surveillance state. It was only a matter of time until every modern superpower had such a system.
No. 50685
Well, I agree. Marx alone won't help to understand the world today and in the future, but he is nonetheless an important theorist of capitalism. That can be fruitful for certain principles or ideas he ventured into long ago and that can still be useful or form the starting point for an analysis. Marx as social scientist might be doged by todays social sciences, but I guess the Marxian itch is that materiality determines these social sciences, while they think of themselves as an rather autonomous enterprise in the (dynamic) scientific system that came into being during the last centuries. In that way Marx was handling question of epistemology which is a tricky question for science, since it becomes a hall of mirrors, self referential paradoxy.
Marx is a critique that works with suspicion. What seems natural to us, even of divine nature is called into question. Marx is still part of the enlightment "project" in that regard. Perhaps the necessary step to push enlightment further, to actually push it through (I think Adorno also that something along the lines about his conception of enlightment together with Horkheimer).
Today so many knowledge (also empirical knowledge) and theory can be brought into what Marx started. A lecturer told me that (nearly, I should add, as there are some orthodox marxists) nobody, who read Marx, thinks that Marx would be sufficient in grasping what is going on.

This book I imagine (did not read it, just on my list) can be useful in understanding global capitalism, it can be brought into fruition with Marxian thought I guess, in what way I cannot say, but I'm sure that many studies can be integrated and update Marx so to speak. Marx was not able to give detailed analysis of certain/every area. The question of technology (as "standalone" or in relation to the human, but also enmeshed in capitalism, but also in other regards, there are many..), which I'm interested in, has been tackled by Marx, it can be fruitful, but it would also be crazy to just rely on Marx in that regard today.

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I wasn't sure were to post this as it didn't really fit into the today or documentary thread so I just started my own.
I've seen a fair few people post blogs on somewhat unrelated threads, and I thought it was a good idea if people just posted on this thread instead of unrelated threads.
Anyway, here is an interesting blogpost about environmental hypocrisy: https://www.ecosophia.net/the-flight-from-nature

Before anyone responds:
>Ecological Spirituality
I agree that 90% of the site is stupid shit but sometimes the literal resident autist Mr. Greer gives pretty scathing critiques of so-called modern "environmentalists".
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A nice little essay on the aesthetic of TikTok in comparison to instragram and also twitter. Having spent time on various compilations on Youtube coming from US Tiktokers of different corners of TikTok famous tiktokers, outsiders, alternative etc for months a mix of intentional brain rot/ idle time for brain and cultural analysis, I really must say it nails some aspects very well. TikTok really is a place for the youth in comparison to instagram or twitter. There is a reason why it is so popular, and it's not just the infinite scroll feed of short videos. I oftentimes felt too old watching content about school or some unfunny teen humor, but ofc I'm still young enough to relate as well.

>Instagram sticks largely to cities or touristic vistas. Alternatively, TikTok shows us corners of the world not popularly depicted—the taupe walls of Middle America, the insides of mid-size vehicles, and the indistinguishable landscape of the common North American backyard.
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TikTok, Twitch, Music and modern Video games were my "It will happen to you" moment. I can't even relate to internet memes anymore.
No. 50647
Yes, ofc. Twitch is a riddle to me, a younger friend of mine uses it now and it was so odd to see this platform for the first time. I've seen oi from far away as that game streaming platform, but the whole culture it breeds is foreign to me. Yet interesting as phenomenon, ofc :DDD
Popular music and games of today are not really my interest, because of tiktok I get a few seconds of new popular music sometimes.
Some meme humor is also behind my age, I got memes by younger people and I was like "whats so funny"? and the answer was random referntiality, no meaning just referntial to something people know. My impression, but that could eb analyzed as well.

The video I attached is emblematic for the youthness and banal teenage life that is all over TikTok, yet I had to grin, because I know this feel, I know this even today when I let slip a chance because I'm still quite an Ernst. And the way she puts an ironic, sober "feel" in her movement and facial expression is just nice to see. It reminds me of those Daria/Jane Lane teens, the world is disappointing, absurd, boring, a hoax in happy faces, but you/they are still (rather carefree) teenager.
No. 50664
Im glad to see they still have their distinct subcultures, i hope thats a trend that will always continue.

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Are we welcome here?
No. 50505
Yes, that's almost correct. Not stolen, but seized by the registrar due to falsified registrant information. That is why, it has the clientDeleteProhibited, clientRenewProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, and clientUpdateProhibited flags, which will expire along with the domain in 2021-04-29.

>Ernstchan.xyz/int is far more schizo infested than many other sites. :3
I don't believe it, have you even looked at Kohl /int/ recently? Actually you shouldn't, for your own mental health's sake. :3
The posting quality on Ernst /int/ is really good in general, IMO. There are a few schizos, they are insistent but low in number. Though I as a quasi-permanent lurker have no right to complain.
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>But the rest are incredible idiots
If I am going to be an idiot, at least I hope to be an incredible one.
No. 50527 Kontra
Idiot gang rise up.
At least I'm smart enough to not have participated in this cancerous thread.

Uh oh, not anymore.
No. 50552 Kontra
>Guess, why you need to enable javascript.options.wasm to get your tor-cookie in order to post on KC.
Have you even read the issue?

>I don't see any significant fingerprinting or linkability issues in the wasm implementation. I don't see any caching across principals. There is a minor fingerprinting risk due to timing leaks (how quickly the wasm byte code is returned as a Module), and how quickly a wasm function is executed. There is the additional risk of malicious byte code exploiting a compiler bug. However, these seem no worse than the existing javascript attack surface - wasm simply adds more options.

It is already enabled by default on Tor Browser by now. The text is only outdated.

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What are the women from different countries like? Did you have any such interesting experiences? What are Spanish women like? Is it difficult to date somebody who's from a different country than your own? What are the relationships like? Do they make good friends?
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>She doesn't have a French accent but a British one, which would make her culturally British right?
She grew up mainly in France.
I also know a few people who, in an attempt to appear sophisticated, cosmopolitan or posh, adopted a rather pronounced Oxford and on one occasion even some kind of faux Cockney accent. Doesn't make the culturally british, though. You silly americans with your silly "culture" shenanigans.
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She's perfect.

t. Paki
No. 50521 Kontra
What's the overall point of this thread even? So there are certain stereotypes like "women of country x are like y", now we can either debunk them or feed them with things like personal anecdotes or occasional statistics etc. but what's to gain in this after all?
No. 50538 Kontra
A mass of fantastic races swirls in your head: desert pygmees playing with their own excrement, kojkos juggling potatoes, eczema ridden mauns grinning and dancing on wooden clogs. Everyone is there, the whole race gang, plus some that you may have come up with yourself: the thieving sub-kipts and the seolite cast of Fortunates hatching some kind of scheme. In the eye of this race empyreon, a vertigo reaching up to the heavens, you sense something... drawing nearer... nearer...

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Because we all live in virtual world
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While I understand your point and agree with it to a certain extent I think the examples you gave are really bad. You mention the lord of the ring as a universe tied to its story but it is not completely true in that case, many books have been written (before and after the publication of LotR) in the same universe about a completely different story and having completely different morale and settings.
I think two stories could take place in the same narrative universe but still have the universe adapt to the two different stories and not the contrary. But I'll give you that it's dumb and unnecessary, the only times when doing that seems like a good idea is when you are pushed by external forces to do it. And in nearly every case it's for exploitation and doing a franchise. A good example of this is half-life 2, where the world portrayed is completely different and finally as well as adapting to gameplay and the visual showcase of the time, tells his own story through his own universe. This is not the case of FO2 or half-life 2 episode one and two or Alyx.
No. 50500
In the early versions of the hobbit, Gollum tells Bilbo that he'll give him the ring if he solves his riddle. Bilbo solves the riddle, and Gollum just gives him the ring. The scene was changed in later prints to fit more in line with LoTR.
So it's also a kind of funny situation where the same universe couldn't properly tell two different stories, so one of the stories had to be changed. Or the universe had to be changed, depending on the delineation.

I think every book is at its strongest when it's a "thing in itself", and doesn't have to compromise by having to accommodate another story told elsewhere set in its universe. That's just not as elegant.
No. 50545
I think it depends if he's really trying to expand the universe and keep working on an idea, or if the author is only doing it for the money. That's really the difference between an expanded universe and a franchise. Like even George Lucas, greedy tub that he is, had a story and he explicitly had the rest to tell later for reasons I do not know, hence Episodes IV-VI being made first.

I think that in a very real sense if you're a fiction author whose work is a fictional universe your story is literally never completed. Sometimes you just hit massive writer's block so it seems like the story is completed for years or decades, but it's not.

This is mostly a thing of scifi and fantasy though. Like Dexter Darkly Dreaming wasn't meant to be this years long television series. Many things get milked for the cash especially where Hollywood gets involved. But in other cases like Mass Effect it really obviously is a universe meant to be expanded upon, or Lensman series maybe which I haven't yet read, although ME2 was clearly a cashgrab and basically that whole series can be summed up in ME1 and ME3 with a short 2 hour DLC between. I think you can compare more easily with like a Palahniuk novel that's clearly its own self contained thing.
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So I picked up the Shadow Warrior reboots during the sales since they were on my backlist. The 2013 game is ebin, there are bits that I don't like (some of the big enemies are tedious to fight, screen occasionally getting cluttered and enemy patterns lost in the noise, bosses sucked). That said, it was really satisfying and felt like it was paying homage to an older style of play without slavishly adhering to 15-20 year old mechanics. Visuals were great with a really nice art direction of near future crossed with some high tech shit crossed with anachronistic medieval Japan cameos.

Booted up Shadow Warrior 2. Knew it was different, but I enjoyed Borderlands a lot, so I figured that the looter-shooter transition wouldn't be too bad. It was pretty bad and I'm unimpressed. The setup just isn't as smooth and the sprawling menus interrupt the game much more than the much simpler upgrade trees did in the first game. Also Hoji, the sidekick in the first game had more charisma in his pinky finger than the sidekick in SW2 does.

Going to have to come back to it later I think, once I've got the good feeling of the first game out of my system. The gameplay seems fine, just shouldn't have been dubbed Shadow Warrior. Good news is that I heard the upcoming third game is taking the improved movement from SW2 and putting it into the more traditional format of SW1. May just play the 1997 game again in the meantime.