>>44227Identity politics and American culture wars are indeed poisonous and I'm sure you got a great taste of it in full on KC2017 too. Really though I think that's not even the problem so much as the fact Americans are morons. Normally this wouldnt be as big a problem but I've been noticing how steadily it's just been getting worse and worse as a psychotic toxic selfish mindset which I'm not sure how much of that is murican hyperindividualism mixed with the poison of modern Capitalism.
Of course as you know well, as a rule it's improper at best to discuss religion and politics in polite company and/or at work. But even that being stated, yeah. I know. It's depressing. I've been opening my eyes a lot these last few years and felt a lot of that muh 1776 sentiment slide off.
The sad fact of the matter is I don't think it actually ever even was about freedom. I don't think it's just that we lost that. I think we never even had it to begin with. I've come to believe that the sole American value from the very first ships that sailed here right up to present day is greed. The sole American object of value and stealing everything you can. I think that the real American religion is greed and all the rest is just commentary.
>Utah
I really don't get what is it with you guys and romanticizing Mormons. I think it's partly the same thing as why people like Mac from worthabuy fetishize the CSA and the deep South. It's basically just memes and an inverse Hollywood effect. Mormons are creepy as fuck and basically just a bunch of heretics of Freemasonry with what's basically just a form of Islam only centered around a century earlier L Ron Hubbard who built his religion around being a weird form of ameriboo. Like, right down to shit like polygamy and banning alcohol, except at least as a Muslim you can still have a cup of tea or coffee (Mormonism bans tea and coffee in addition to alcohol). The LDS itself is a corporation that basically practices witchcraft in the hidden levels. There's also the added irony that I think a lot of foreign imageboard dwellers like it because they bought some propaganda about muh wholesome white families which is hilarious because Mormons as a whole are pretty pro-immigrant.
I dunno. I agree with you but it's become abundantly clear to me the degree to which Americans hate each other and frankly while the establishment has always mildly stoked that crap in a divide and rule strategy so they can keep stealing with impunity it has gotten to the point with the current establishment going out of it's way to antagonize everybody as much as possible that I really wouldn't be surprised if we start having civil war happenings especially if the current admin goes that route trying to save it's own skin. It's always been there boiling under the surface but at least every past administration at least tried to calm it down rather than trying to make it boil over. I can definitely tell you that it's become extremely unpleasant being here the last few years to the extent that internally I now consider every American and most of our institutions as potential enemies with the name of the game being to keep your head down and pray you've got the luck and resources to exploit them more than they can exploit you, which you probably won't. The pandemic just made it all obvious and after my own company pretty much openly told us they're going to feed us to the virus and only took measures when SHTF the local government forced them to do shit like install barriers or use masks or gloves and took enough measures to save their own shekels before throwing us back to the virus again and absolving themselves of all responsibility towards us. This also began happening at the company level only when it became clear that ignoring the problem would just make everyone not want to shop there because they wouldnt feel safe.
I'm not sure about the word circus, because at least a circus is fun. A circus in the way I mean it is great. Yeah it's entertaining here in ways it probably isn't there. The problem is that now it's a dumpster fire. The car is on fire and we don't have a driver at the wheel.
None of this is easing my brooding underlying anxiety. It's a hard feeling to explain but I am constantly on edge about being completely fucked over, by customers, by coworkers, by the company, by the government, by cops, by the Wuhan virus. It's a nonstop sense of risk and feeling like everything I'm doing is "wrong" because some complete fucking asshole somewhere is going to try to be a Karen tier or asshole cop type to you for no good reason at all. The problem is guns accomplish fuckall. The idea that I have freedom because of guns is a retarded lie. I feel like I have less freedom here than I would most places and every time I go online or go outside it's a risk so I hope to be as low profile as possible so no one bothers me unless I'm getting paid for it.
I don't even think being an introvert is the problem anymore. I think that people here are just assholes. I constantly have to stop myself and reappraise my native sense of things like duty or loyalty, or taking one for the team, or trying to help anything at a local or societal level, and then realizing it will likely only fuck me or be unappreciated at best and force myself to think "but what's in it for me?" instead and the minute I wrote out this sentence got a strongly bad and Russian feeling about the state of things.
Really what I think it was is the psychopaths in positions of power, wealth, and fame have finally managed to make us tip over into critical mass. The Pole who wrote
Political Ponerization was really onto something. The original manuscript was sadly lost because it butthurt Soviet censors and had to be rewritten from memory but he wrote it about life under the USSR and applied the theories of personality disorder to the macro political and what can happen when enough sociopaths gain power and organize themselves politically. It forces you into inhuman thinking.
http://ponerology.com/psychopaths_1.htmlJust don't read themilleniumreport. It's fucking hilarious and a testament to the real extent of the situation here because the most objectively psychopathic leader we have right now is Trump. People like Bolton and Elliot Abrams all the rest had the sense of social decorum to at least pretend to hide it.All that being stated you can see thin rays of the good side of America even now, and even if the bad massively outweighs the good at this point. Just again, do not bring up politics and religion with Americans. They will be retarded close to 100% of the time. As an Irishman you should know this and with how people unironically romanticize crap like the Troubles or why maybe you shouldn't bring up Irish politics when you just want a pint, and try and avoid the Americans who go out of their way to talk about it.
On topic:
Shart (or "creatura" it's the only thing I've seen 4cancer make in the last seven years that's genuinely hilarious)