3rd pic is why I find all these fucking trekkie tier retards unspeakably retarded in trying to send out HELLO WORLD first internets post tier messages into the cosmos, dampened only by the fact it is also painfully obvious to anyone not 100IQ that between decay of the radiowaves to undetectable faintness, length of time to travel (although it certainly could whisper to anything in a hundred lightyears, this being more an issue with Voyager), and the obviousness that our very particular tech would never get decoded anytime soon likely saves us from detection. Any advanced species would likely hear this signal, requiring specific hardware to decode the data, followed by needing xenolinguists to decode what is even being said from small data fragments, the type of thing that would become myth and legend within some xeno NSA that no cryptographer of any sort could crack it. I am thankful for that.
Voyager is a lot dumber though technically speaking, which is moving at such a slow rate first of all it would be like trying to find a single mold spore carried on the wind with your nakrd eye, but second of all it it did
somehow reach something intelligent before being destroyed by micrometeorites or something that we would be long extinct.
As a brief aside, it irritates me to no end when channels like kurzgesasgt try to talk about "we could, if we're still around
, colonize red dwarfs after all the other stars burned out" or "but don't worry, by the time this happens and the sun becomes a super giant our human descendents likely will have found a way to colonize other planets
" like what the absolute fuck, why are even the non-tile painters of my species so incurably retarded? Are they lying on purpose to manipulate human emotions or some emotive purpose of which I'm unaware? Because they say things like that on timescales of literally billions of years if not trillions of years, with even a hint
anything resembling us would even exist clearly having zero basis in reality. It's like listening to weapon of mass destruction producing, climate wrecking, gene editing, short sighted dinosaurs start talking about what dinosaurs are going to be up to three hundred million years from then. But then again I also do not fully understand fear of death the way fedoras interested in cryogrenics seem to think it.
Regardless all this is painfully stupid stuff to me. I don't understand why anyone would want to go into the universe to "make friends." Maybe humans domesticated themselves into being like dogs without the endearing qualities. That Israeli had a clear understanding of reality. He may have been speaking from the context of first a Jew and then as an Israeli, where the universe would seem hostile and existentially threatening on all sides in a way it's not for others, but it's a lucid appraisal.
I suppose we could face that decision of, we can try to take one of two pathways, the first being so very heavily armed that we are a terrifying existential threat to everything, and can blot out whole stellar clusters at a time, the second being to approach the universe utterly unarmed, and I am not sure which is more terrifying. The middle of the road approach, of trying not to come across as hostile or threatening but still carrying that massive stick while speaking softly, still runs against the problem of either hostile or logical survivalist aliums, and that there's always someone bigger than you no matter how badass you think you are.
There are of course a great many presumptions, the one being we would even have the means to detect and identify a communication from species so advanced in that tiny sliver of the night sky we actually look at, and the second being that all life is much like earth life. I'd think it just as likely that it is very much like earth life, just not in the sense some austistic Israeli or a poltard might see it, which is a hyper socialized and symbiotic web, because Social Darwinists also are amazingly stupid and seldom seem to get how evolution here works.
I have still thought that a system of constant concealment seems the most likely approach any intelligent species would take with any other species, not to mention trying to not contaminate yourself (or them, on the offchance you cared) because the cross contamination of microorganisms would be immediate and total destruction of one or the other if not both. We'd naturally be utterly immune to space AIDS or anything like a virus, but any fungi or bacteria would be like hitting not just our species but our whole biosphere with smallpox blankets and we'd be the Indians. I also found out yesterday smallpox is airborne not just spread by fomites as I'd thought, and it has a prodromal phase of like 12 days not just several to a week, which is utterly fucking terrifying and thus clues me in on why the contagion routinely took down empires. Unmodified smallpox is the perfect anti-monkeigh bioweapon. A day will come when some variant of something like a new monkeypox hits us. Thank god for Covid. This brutally forced us to develop a plan for when that once every 500 year pandemic finally comes.
But at the same time there is that broader sense that firstly the distances are too vast for anything to actually care about each other until some actual interstellar travel is invented or some tech that makes a species into a dangerous nuisance like ejecting mass their way, and secondly across a vast ocean of timescales.