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>>58153
'one' being a side mirror that got broken. I posted about it earlier this week somewhere.
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No. 58155
Oh right this link

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/digital/collection/p15799coll14/id/207302
Why is this in a Christian evangelical collection?

So I was playing Prey and found some slavic saying had to look it up and found out it came from this. I was utterly confused by who held it in their museum.
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>>58084
I'm fascinated by ability to be butthurt about non-important or even good things.
It's great that normies appreciate science, because it's the reason why they live long, work few (if sitting in office can be considered work) and have a lot of fun. Also for them it's like religion, but THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY WORKS. [tips fedora] It's miracles are seen IRL, not like "desert herders wrote about it in their book, it must be true".[untips fedora]

> If you think geeks are so sexy or cool, bang one. Go to any university and find a computer or physics lab at 2AM and take your pick. Until then, go commit cultural fraud someplace else, and take your phony "I fucking love science" group with you.
Once a girl considered me normie and a complete disappointment and lost all interest to me because I preferred easy $$$ career instead of being fundamental researcher (unlike her). But I really had my reasons.
Also this crazy bitch had nazi fetish (while being afraid of intimacy irl), liked fashion tv shows (while dressing up irl like a nerd boy) and was into shoplifting. The comparison with Asuka is obvious, and she mentioned it by herself.
Ahhh, sad, sad, sad. I wonder how she is doing now.
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No. 58165
>>58158
Wow does she not sound like a keeper.

Also I think your main thing is spending too much time on the internet especially around fatposters. There's not that much of that meme irl im spite of what 4kanker retards like telling you, and where it does exist is pretty much nothing more than cultural Americanism turning everything into cancer that it touches. Religion, politics, video game industry, food, pretty much everything about that meme is only cancerous solely because of crass lowbrow commercialism infecting literally everything else here.

I once saw someone here talking about how turbo Capitalism looks in a country where Communism already utterly destroyed its cultural legacy. I think ours is what that looks like when you didn't have much of one to begin with, the result of which is turning everything into some faggoty identity and every faggoty identity merely being an extension of brand name affiliation. Case in point, you are clearly talking about a very specific type of annoying normalfag redditor spouting Rick and Morty memes, which is funny because then the person is so toxic and annoying some people end up hating the show even though nothing is wrong with it, in similar manner to them hating Christianity even though there's nothing wrong with it because how cancerous and vile many non-Catholic American Christians are.

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Sup, Ernst. Bernd from Kohl is here. I'm going to open an embassy ITT, if you don't mind.

Roskomparasha (Russian public authorities responsible for censorship on the internet) has blocked Kohlchan today in Russia. Beeline and MTS providers already closed gates in Moscow and Muscovites can't post from now. Blocks from another providers and provincial Bernds just a matter of time.

So, I decided to come here and collect all Russian refugees ITT to prevent my compatriots from shitposting on /int/. Let's discuss things here in English and don't disturb friendly Ernst.
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No. 58075 Kontra
Participate in other threads like usual users, get used to local posting.

There is no need for a special thread of the board which is not even closed.

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This thread is dedicated to discussions and findings about the present, future and history of (digital) media and technology. They can concern culture, society, politics and philosophy. I know we have a science thread and a computer thread, but this thread is decicated to the humanities side of the issue, though this thread should not exclude (computer) science.

I will make my updates here regulary I hope, so this is a personal thread which should accompany my personal studies, but you are invited to post here as well. I will mainly review articles or books, perhaps post personal experience we often discussed imageboards here, which can boil down board culture, but also social composition, so that would be a topic, but also hope to link thoughts together in the future.

More or less: What are the consequences of a digital age in various domains, where are we heading and where do we/it came from?

The thread could contain questions like:

[*]What is the digital, what does this notion imply?
[*]What is media?
[*]The dawning of the notion of networks

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No. 57974
I think the easiest heuristic for identifying which freedoms the powers that be is what gets the most violent and direct reaction from them.

Exercising your individual freedom isn't one of them. It's exactly through the dilution of the weight of the individual voter that democracy can be easily manipulated. So they allow it.
It's not protests or demonstrations (at least in countries where the rulers are smart enough), because any partisan activity can be spun to someone's benefit.
It's not ideologies or arguments or debates. Those basically do not do anything in today's polluted info sphere.

I think what governments hate the most is separatism of any kind. Disengaging from government authority outright, defining yourself as a separate society, etc. I have no sympathy for fundies, but just look at Waco. They saw someone building their own commune, and fucking burned the place down.
The next step in ensuring freedom should be the establishment of independent communes, entities large enough to participate in the external political process, but small enough where each individual holds a bigger share of the voting power.

I think the most regressive current ideology is "end-of-historyism". The idea that the political mechanism for further societal change has already been implemented, and all that's left is to use those mechanics to nudge "progress" forward.

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>>57974
>The next step in ensuring freedom should be the establishment of independent communes, entities large enough to participate in the external political process, but small enough where each individual holds a bigger share of the voting power.

If you want a weird angle to look at this subject, look into Agorist theory which is centred on the revolutionary potential gabitalism-oriented communes, specifically through counter-economics, which they define as all peaceful economic activity that isn't state sanctioned. Their method is pretty much what you said, just economically seceding from what they consider a flawed edition of capitalism by growing black markets to the point that they become the de-facto official economy and disempower the state.

Whether or not you agree with their philosophy (I don't), it's a pretty interesting concept.
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No. 57987
>>57971
>I'm really curious what, exactly, you think a more ideal government would be?
What country are you asking about?
Also I wasn't bitching, current situation seems fine to me. Facebook cattle have their compound feed, Zuck has his billions, marketers and web monkeys have their bananas, Ernsts have their niche platforms. Everyone seems satisfied except reallifemag.com columnist and German poster who posted the link to him.
I haven't even mentioned Socialism and scientists

>>57957
>Your argument would be the same for a dictatorship, turns out people like it as they accept to live in it.
I would argue that it's harder to emigrate to foreign country than to do three clicks and create account in FSBgram or any other non-shitty platform (you don't even have to delete old one!). Not mentioning that some of dictators don't allow their serfs to leave countries freely.
And you really think that smallhedas who are physically unable to use something which is not preinstalled on their phones don't like Facebook? No, it's made exactly for them.

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>>57987
>and create account in FSBgram or any other non-shitty platform

I mentioned the network effect that executes its force. While you are right that a change is easier as it only some clicks, a 5min operation, it still applies that users have no sway in the doings of the platform. Which brings me to the A/B testing, it just tells the designers and programmers that the interface they built has the desired effect, not that the users consciously approve it. That is also why it is not really comparable with a focus group, and you pointed to it already: you don't ask users what they think, you just monitor behavior. That is what I mentioned as data behaviorism. The subject as concept and entity in the western world is done with by going data. What data is gathered and how it is interpreted is in the hands of designers/programmers, not users. They basically cattle in 'empty shells' (behaviorism does not care about your internal procession and what you feel and think personally).

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Discuss all things related to music from new discoveries to debates about musicians and the impact of their work.

Digging this lately:
https://youtu.be/yAo42BFos98

Over this land

Over this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaasteland
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>>57858
My favorite Russian Metal bands: Apия [Aria], Acпид [Aspid], Кoppoзия Meтaллa [Korrozia Metalla], Кpyиз [Kruiz], Macтep [Master], Лeгиoн [Legion], Apкoнa [Arkona], Чёpный oбeлиcк [Cherny Obelisk], Pseudogod, Walknut, Spitehowling, Forest, Branikald, M8Л8TХ [M8L8TH], Коловрат [Kolovrat], Россия [Rossija], Jedem das Seine, Киборг [Kiborg], Родосвет [Rodosvet]

Thoughts?
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No. 57862
>>57858
> is more of a meme than an actual band
Moreover, rage comics tier meme. Everyone forgot about it and if someone accidentally remembers it, he dies from cringe.
I just posted the pic because it's funny and related to post. By the way it also mentions "Ensemble of Christ the Savior and Mother Raw Earth". Would recommend. Many of their songs are officially considered extremist so you can be bottled for publishing them. Also youtube deletes all their best clips:
https://vk.com/video19512598_162231938
https://vk.com/video-20694646_158600364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuSNjmEcVjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccfA2DDcX-M

> What do you think of true kings of Russian thrash metal — Kuvalda?
You wanted to say Bredor?

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>>57859
Wow, you actually responded seriously to my shitpost. That's RAC Murica for ya.

Anyway, I didn't listen to most of these bands, but I gotta admit a couple of them are actually pretty good.

>Ария
Favorite band of my best buddy in high school. I never was much of a fan, but I do like some of their songs. Also, Kipelov > Berkut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2ZezTUjLo
This one's about a terrorist. Pretty fun song: "heroin at night, hexogen in the morning", heh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8B2m9pnac0
Somewhat Christian (but not really) song about heavens. I like the chorus for some reason.

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>>57735
>Neofolk flirts a bit too much with neonazism to my taste.
but Flowers from Exile by Rome is more Republicano imo

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  1. Where did/does Ernst study?
  2. What did/does Ernst study?
  3. Are you happy with your study choice?
  4. Did you or do you want to study abroad and if so at what university?
  5. Did you or do you expect to find a job in your field
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No. 56250
>>56171
>uni bullshit and politics will ruin science and everything related for you
Good to know that is not only a brazilian phenomenon.
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>>56187
>Why don't you do a trade and end the bs? The too old argument, but does that really apply in the trade you want to do?
Because if you closely read my post, you will notice that I have been involved in university stuff for over ten years now and I most certainly will not start an apprenticeship when I have a PhD. It's not like I don't like my line of work or don't earn any money, but with respect to what amount of work I had to put in, it wasn't worth it, but the major point is simply that university is not like it was decades ago. Having a (rather worthless) bachelor's degree is like having Abitur twenty years ago.
With the need for more university degrees they didn't do anything to have better education, they just lowered the standards. Trades are not glamorous, and every half-brained monkey needs to go to university.
That leads to people - born and grown up in Germany - not being able to form a straight sentence. I don't even look for orthography and punctuation anymore. You get people who would probably be overchallenged pushing a button in a factory. I mean, we were already pretty dumb, but those people I had the misfortune of having to supervise are really not fit for anything beyond the very simplest tasks. Once I had to show one of them how to use a sponge to clean something (practical lab course). And that is only one factor; the other is uni politics in general, especially over the last year we could perfectly see how everyone wants to cover their ass and not take any responsibility whatsoever, so all the institutes were left on their own. I could also never be a professor because that means having to play by those politics and kissing asses and attending all those bullshit meetings and events. Of course you have those cases were someone is built from the ground up, doing their Diploma, their PhD and then they get fast-tracked to Junior Professor. Or when a woman is being passed around as an example of women in science just because she's a woman. I mean, she's smart enough to grab all the goodies that come with it, but she also damn well knows why she's being presented everywhere.

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FAU Erlangen/Nürnberg Ernsts hier? Would be glad if someone could share their experience with it
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>>56252
What about getting self employed?

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Dear Ernst,
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>>57383
A modern city to me and others has a certain infrastructure (transportation, sanitation, electricity, medical etc.), certain styles of government (planning e.g.) and maybe even functional geography (certain districts e.g.) and is a place of capitalization, an economic place. On top you get the "modern experience" i.e certain "rhythms" (fast paced etc), anonymity, "alienation".
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>>57382
Perfect!
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No. 57392 Kontra
Didn't sleep much, had coffee and now I have anxiety and a depressive episode.
Really, when I don't have gotten enough sleep, I shouldn't drink coffee anymore, it's programmed to end like that.
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>>57378
>but still is underdeveloped
Way to miss the point entirely, i.e. depending what metrics used especially how qualitative and specious the resulted ratings you can try to make a complete corrupt shithole look good because it has a few different oligarchs and their lackeys changing position. You can have terrible infrastructure and still get called "first world" then.

>>57383
That is also part of the point.

>>57387
Like here for example we see how such a qualitative argument can readily be made pointing out to Flint or many other places outside Michigan water, failing bridges, lack of high speed internet and overground telephone poles, people in Texas freezing to death from their independent power grid failing, brownouts, random exploding gas lines etc. as proofs that America is "an underdeveloped third world shithole" even when clearly the maker of that map intended us to be considered height of development. Until we see the data actually used we have no way of knowing and is precisely why hard data always should trump retarded qualitative arguments about being "first world" or not. China being filled with abject retards and superstitious bydlo does not change those facts that in last couple of decades it's largely become a developed country, and no rural areas being impoverished backward shitholes does not count my country and many others on that list is filled with the same.

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Last one was good, but it just doesn't bump anymore like it used to. Time for the sequel

Share your literary misadventures & accomplishments ITT
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>>57199
Wow, you completely missed the point of everything I wrote. Was that intentional?
Also, what is more anecdotal about my account than "I've read many [...] interpretations"?
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>>57201
So far you guys just delivered rather neboulous claims about wordy humanities (long texts = bad uga), without presenting anything besides a student paper and a high school situation. Both of which can be very far from humanities work that gets actually published. I've at least read such interpretations and also made myself acquainted with how these interpretations are done, or what some theories of interpretation propose this is all about.
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>>57202
I like the irony of your whole post. Were you aware of that when you wrote your post?
But please, show me one of those interpretations you are talking about, I am always willing to learn new things.
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>>57203
Why should I give you an interpretation of a text you probably don't know anything about?

O'Neill, Patrick: Endgame Variations. Narrative and Noise in Thomas Bernhard's Das Kalkwerk. In: Friedrich Gaede (Hrsg.): Hinter dem schwarzen Vorhang. Die Katastrophe und die epische Tradition - Festschrift für Anthony W. Riley. 1. Auflage. Tübingen/Basel: Francke Verlag 1994, S. 231-242.
briefly said the narration itself turns to noise just as the study Konrad is conducting does

Lindenmayr, Heinrich: Totalität und Beschränkung. Eine Untersuchung zu Thomas Bernhards Roman "Das Kalkwerk". 1. Auflage. Königstein/Ts.: Verlagsgruppe Athenäum [u.a.] 1982 (=Hochschulschriften - Literaturwissenschaft 50)
briefly said it is an iterpretation that carves out philosophical problems that are dealt with in the novel

And please provide a scholarly interpretation that you deem full of unnecessities first to at least have an example that is representative for all of humanity's scholarly work in literary interpretation, because only those full with uncesseary sentences are deem great interpretations and are waved through.

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If you're so smart Ernst, what happens after we die?
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>>56742
Yeah physicists are a special case because they quickly reach a realm where you must speculate and "philosophy" (in the common layman's meaning). Quantum physics is such a thing, or the string theory or what was before the big bang when time and space weren't separate and such stuff. If you go in that direction it becomes really esoteric really fast, and as you say "shut up and calculate" is a good summary, because what happens beyond those calculations can be left to the philosophers.
I am looking forward to your reply.
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>>56733
>There are enough scientists and engineers that are also not heard.

Which is a problem. Do you have some examples? I think the humanities and social sciences developed explanations to describe these phenomena. Besides money, there are also notions like the attention economy, social relations and images, that interfere with science and its development.

STEM is axiomatic, humanities are not. Nonetheless both humanities and social science operate with empirical data. Their objects of research are part of a/the world. And like STEM they argue for what is the case and what is not. And like in STEM debates occur. STEM are different in that regard as the axiomatic character makes a difference to what is debated most of the time.
>According to the ideal of explanation and understanding, every science searches for inferential connections between facts in the section of reality for which the science is responsible.

>the authors of that book are moving in a circular fashion, as described.

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>>56804

>In fact, I wish the sciences would go even further into the other direction. Facts above all, no paradigms, no opinions, no consensus on things that have clear results. Just the facts, and if those facts invalidate the old "general consensus", so be it. End of tirade, I am tired too.

That statement in turn could an example of a certain belief system (belief by me is always understood as being convinced of something). Perhaps scientism?

>because if my methodology is sound, my equipment works as intended

philosophy of science as well as history of science could spark debates for examples about the role of (measuring) apparatuses. I'm not very familiar with the debates, you might have heard of it. I know scientists in their own disciplines can be very critical, but like in every disciplines not all members engage very much in meta problems of their respected discipline. Not all historians ponder deeply about writing history (producing results), they eventually have to learn about it ofc, but how much they are invested or take paths that are walked many times an work very well, so not too much thought needs to be invested about this. That does not imply that these discussions call all science bs. It usually means that something like scientific realism has become questionable, which is not necessarily the abandonment of science itself. There are different options on how to proceed afaik.

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>>56805
I'm reading atm and the topic is close enough to make an addition here.

In many regards, the digital landscape works with models of users as black boxes, I/Os are determined to solve problems, whatever those are, only the "engineers" know. The problem is that by choosing to take this angle and apply the knowledge, you disregard the internalities, the inside of users which is basically the tenet of (classical) humanities, all that is irrelevant to the problem solving, but disregarding all this has consequences, basically, you have inclusionary/exclusionary consequences via decision making. You still "solve a problem" but perhaps by choosing to tackle the problem with this engineering mindset, you produce a range of other problems. The problem then is that some never acknowledge this and preer to stay ignorant and rely in the same methods to solve these new problems.

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I open the new one, because I have nothing else to contribute rn.
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>>56665
Well, my proposition was "it doesn't matter which system you live under, as long as you take the position of an egotistical, self serving, Machiavellian grifter". And I mean self serving not in regards to power or wealth (to what end?), but towards one's private autistic interests.
Now, as long as you properly optimize for maximum personal hobby productivity, what you have to do to that end is not really a question, because by definition you are doing the minimum that is required, and no more. It could be not much or a lot, in the absolute, but given the particular situation, it would be the minimum.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law, and all that.
Some people interpret this as "never do things you don't want to do", but the intended meaning is "do whatever it takes to fulfill your personal destiny". Sometimes it involves washing a donkey's ass to get by, sometimes writing propaganda pieces for le great leader. Sometimes worse things.

>>56701
Yeah, the point was exactly about how this feeling of importance / community / or "meaning" is entirely subjective, disconnected from the objective "merits" of the situation.

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No. 56719
>>56706
Did you miss the whole Trump precidency?
Boths sides of the media are lying through their teeth to smear the respective other side.

Or the whole refugee crisis in europe. All media turned 200% refuggers welcome and called each and everyone raising the slightest doubts about the benefits of uncontrolled mass imigration an evil nazi.
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No. 56726
We celebrated my father's birthday today by going to an escape room and having lunch at a restaurant.
It was pretty cool, despite the heat. Don't think I've ever had lemon cheesecake before, bit it was delicious.
Also saw the statue of Lt. Columbo while in the city. Apparently the actor playing him was like 1/8th magyaroid so it warrants a statue. It also had a book cart next to it where I bought a book.

38 degrees. But finally, tomorrow a wave of cold air and rain is arriving, so it will be only ~34 degrees!
Actually took out the sunshade for tomorrow. Gotta rearrange some stuff on the deck and I can still sit outside without having to bear with the scorching sun.

The only good thing about the heat is that I can wash my hair and not have to blow-dry it. It actually dries quite nicely. Gets slightly curly in parts but it's better than when I blast it with heat.

>>56709
Yeah, but my point is, would you actually have the spine to do what it takes to be like that? Could you actually be like that?
The positions are alluring, but personally I don't know if I could live with myself if I had to do ideological work in a one party dictatorship.

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>>56726
>The positions are alluring, but personally I don't know if I could live with myself if I had to do ideological work in a one party dictatorship.
Your confucius institute backed scholarship has been rescinded.
It feels like that the downsides of that career path is dealing with political games bullshit and how nerve-wracking it could potentially be when you're fighting for a coveted apparatus seat. Other than that, seems like a breddy gud job :DD

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I am almost 50 now.

I fucked my mother when I was 14.

I slept in the same bed as her until I was 17.

She worked as a fichera at a bar called "El Tenampa".

She had the best tits of any woman I have ever slept with.

Such is life.
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