>>52114
Eh what is it and what are you using it for? What use cases are you expecting? Because if you were planning on solid gaming forget about it. As a mostly shitposting machine sure. Personally in 2021 that's what I would expect of a really cheap laptop. I mean CPU itself is fine, it isn't great, but it's fine. I don't know what kind of capacities we are talking about here or RAM speed or what, but it sounds to me like just a really basic interneting and schoolwork PC that you could probably get a few really older games to run on. Man, I remember those days, back when you could just expect of an Intel machine to play vidya from integrated graphics just well enough, to where 30fps was standard and we just called everything lag from frame tearing to bad ping and mp latency to massively dropped frames, it all was just "lag" whenever it couldn't do what we were trying to make it do.

It really all boils down to use cases. Because that's an integrated graphics chipset it will work for watching high definition videos and stuff like that but to play any vaguely recent game requires a dedicated GPU. It's not a very strong workhorse CPU which can't turbo for shit but at least its baseclocks are fine and frankly with sufficient rendering power you can still play a hell of a lot of games on even far older and slower CPUs. Apparently its iGPU is Vega 6, so idk how that translates but should probably let you play old stuff, although I have no clue why that chip is stuck on PCIe gen3 when the whole nice thing about even Zen2 was gen4 and lots of lanes.

All that being stated it's still an iGPU chip that's like the whole 4000 series explicitly designed to be a laptop CPU, in fact I'm actually a bit baffled as to why it's even available on desktop to begin with except to have a really cheap OEM and businessmachine CPU for some reason, which at just 4 cores isn't good at all anymore. I mean it'll still be fine now for the average person, but it's a quadcore.

The reason this baffles me in particular is because you can buy the widely available 6-core 3600 CPU instead which is just as fast by boost clocks and 3.6ghz to 3.8ghz base clocks, and have PCIe4.0. It's really just a completely baffling design decision to me why the chip evej exists on desktop except to I guess provide people looking for the cheapest bargain PC possible without directly needing a graphics card.

As for the RAM that is likewise just barely to play older games and do some web browsing. Even in some years old games I have on win10 it's not unusual to go well past 8gb of physical RAM. Considering everything else about that machine my guess is it's probably something like 2667ghz, which isn't terrible I mean I was still gaming on 8gb of 1600mhz RAM not even that long ago, but still. You'll certainly want a RAM upgrade at some point for anything beyond shitposts and videos.

Tl;dr it depends on use case aka what you hope to use it for and certain other things about the PC, which if it's desktop includes quality of power supply, board, etc. This is more relevant in the future if you just absolutely need a new PC now in this godawful market and might upgrade parts two years later. So if it's not for gaming, yes, probably. Especially if just for school. Building a $500 machine that's better is doable, but would be difficult if not impossible especially right now.

Here to give you an idea what it'll look like if you try and game on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=404&v=t1a0Ion1ZF4

>>52115
>>52116
The main reasons I consider a new PC is that my 12 years old core2 duo computer doesn't support 64bit guests in virtual machines and VGA passthrough, so I can neither install modern Linux distros guest OS (or other 64bit OS), nor play an old but demanding game on let's say
Windows XP 32bit guest OS.
What makes matters worse is that I'm forced to use Xrender/nouveau driver on the native OS because the newer Linux kernels don't support nvidia-304 legavy drivers anymore. If I try to use plasma-desktop with openGL instead xrender
I get ugly glitches with the noeveau driver, so I'd say my computer reached the end of his useful lifespan pretty much. I can still stream video, play some old PC games (either native, or on guest OS), listen music, shitpost with it, use gimp etc. but thats about it.

Watching some similar yt videos like the one you posted convinced me that the ryzen 4350g pro would cover my ocassional gaming needs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbr-CKIqi8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgmxvoMQdnY

My usage pattern would be mostly the same as described above with my current PC, I just want it to be capable of VGA passtrough, 64 bit virtual machine OS guests and be able to use proprietary drivers and OPenGL with the recent Linux Kernels for the next 10 years.

Other than you I believe that consumer grafic cards will become more and more obsolete tech in the nearer future (not in the nearest maybe) and see no reason to invest in one outreagous expensive card when I can get almost the same experience with a single APU chip.

My question is basically if there is something
on the market that has better specs and longer live expectancy for less invested bucks than a Ryzen 4350g Pro based PC for 450-500€.

I really did have lots of fun binge watching this channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A84MgzOtOLA
In thinking about how neet it would be to have my own genetics engineering lab it dawned on me that contrary to megacorps wishes and much to Monsanto's chagrin what we're going to need to do then and should be doing now is having genetic hazard signs. Like if I was to help engineer an especially smart and large subspecies of salticidae to have a large genehazard warning sign with like transcripting or unraveling DNA inside a yellow triangle, which sure we already do have a mutagenic hazard sign which is itself not very intuitive and hence bit of a failure of graphical design imo but it only is about our DNA being corrupted and affected by some chemical. What we should do is put genehazard signs on certain things which should not be allowed to come out of a lab and possibly reproduce in the wild or potentially cross pollinate with wild natural life. In other words Monsanto crops should have big bright red warning signs about being genetic hazards and likewise anything with advanced genetical engineering. I of course would relish the opportunity to put those stickers on the obnoxious fucking GloFish at pet stores but really it should be something about not letting such engineered or altered creatures out of a lab.

But man, would I enjoy giving octopuses and cuttlefish much extended lifespans and perhaps even enhanced intellect. Part of their problem is actually just having such really short life cycles which I suspect is hampering their ability to develop culture and thus pass down their cultural and other learnings to offspring in much the way we do. Being largely solitary predators except some cuttlefish swarms doesn't help matters.

Also an elephant actually learning human words is on such advanced level of intellect I'm not quite sure humans are even smart enough to do that, because it doesn't occur to most of my tile painter brethren seemingly that many animal species have developed languages it's just we're too dumb to understand what they're saying or even recognize they're talking. I suspect animals like cats attempt to verbalize things to human owners.

Actually one of the great things about quantum computing tech would be that we could probably apply such technologies towards creation of universal translators including feeding animal expressions into it. Not sure how you'd set parameters. Also not entirely sure how you could translate other animals that don't vocalize like cats, humans, birds, and dolphins do, but instead through scent organs such as ants and visual language like cuttlefish.