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No. 10431
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It is said that just before death the brain recalls its strongest memories.
When you'll be on deathbed, feeling life slowly leaving your body, what will be the memories you're likely going to recall?
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No. 10433
>just before death the brain recalls its strongest memories

Well, I hope I'm not dying. Because for the last few months my memories were very strong and vivid.
Memories about all the good things in my life.
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No. 10434
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>get hit by a bus
>10 years worth of imageboard shitposting, porn and video games flood my consciousness
>shit, piss and cum my pants all at once
>die
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No. 10439
Probably some really embarrassing thing I did many years ago.

t.knower of brains
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No. 10440
I will remember this thread and the answer i've given.
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No. 10441
since your body chemistry goes apeshit I suspect it to be more like a psychotic situation, so I guess kazak is right when he says your brain gets flooded with memories. Strong and intense memories will alternate in seconds. Dying must be extremely stressful.
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No. 10442
I already had a moment like this, and all I thought was "what a waste" You tell yourself you will think this thing or that or about your parents or a lover or something, but in the end my only thought was that I had wasted my life.
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No. 10533
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Finished school, before I made something of myself I got addicted to GTA San Andreas and Halo 2 so I lost my job, got addicted to CS Source so I quit college too, became neet
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No. 10542
Annoying shit from teenager and childhood days, I guess
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No. 10545
Abuse from parents and being heartbroken for the first time.
My life was always a mess tbh.
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No. 10546
>>10441
> Strong and intense memories will alternate in seconds
This is what I expect to happen. Of course I'm not sure what is more intense-my memories of things that happened, or my memories of thinking about things that happened. Probably the latter, since I don't really feel things in the moment, and am only traumatized in retrospect. It could be my whole life flashback will be the same scene: Me walking and thinking about things.
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No. 10563 Kontra
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>>10533
>You just enjoyed one of Hitler's artworks trolololol

But it's rubbish?
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No. 10564
>>10563
No, it's Dust 2
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No. 10567
>>10564
And if Hitler hadn't rushed A then maybe...
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No. 10569 Kontra
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>>10563
Besides being a picture from CS, the colors could be from a Hitler painting which were mediocre or even worse. I want to attach a picture which will lead to laughter. And yes, it really was painted by Hitler
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No. 10574
>>10569
I mean, it's not that bad. It looks like a nice little cartoon. I can just imagine Charlie Brown walking around there.
>dem Iron Crosses
Was he 15 when he did this?
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No. 10606
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>>10574
Hitler was a WW1 vet
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No. 10609
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>>10606
I am aware. That's not what I meant. It looks like the kind of thing a kid would doodle on his binder. He got the angles all wrong.
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No. 10621
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Speaking of hitler paintings, here's a new meme invented by me: le stubby man.

I think it's hilarious.
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No. 10631
>>10621
On the one hand it isn't bad per se but on the other you can actually tell why his teachers gave him shit. Perspective is completely fucked. I know that he tended to not like drawing people. It's interesting that drawing human beings was also what he seemed to have the most trouble with.
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No. 10634
>>10609
Captured british tanks had all kinds of shit painted on them to differentiate them on the battlefield from their british counterparts.
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No. 10636
>>10621
I really like the guy a bit further back who looks more like 'le rotund man' but still, rated.
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>>10636
I like these also
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No. 10642
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Me after 6 cans of 10% piss lager
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No. 10643
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>>10641
First is the one I was talking about. He looked more rotund when not zoomed right up on.

>>10642
Ebin. That whole mini-scene is unintentionally hilarious. Drunk looking guy has his friend pretending not to be with him while the shadowy and oversized tram conductor shakes his fist at them :-DDDDDD
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No. 10644
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>>10643
"Guess which hand I brake with" :-DDDDD
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No. 10645
>>10644
:-DDD

Even with menes as hot as le stubby man and le strut man, ol' Adolf still can't top Bruegel. That man is a gem and a gift to mene connoisseurs everywhere.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Pieter_Brueghel_the_Elder_-_The_Dutch_Proverbs_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg
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No. 10651
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>>10645
Dafuq is this? It kinda reminds me of those tree-like dead people in Dark Souls 3, who sit in chairs in Undead Settlement where you fight the Fire Demon.
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No. 10660
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By the way, guys, where do you find hi-res reproductions of paintings? I usually download reproductions from torrents, but the quality ranges from mediocre to downright awful, like in picrelated.
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No. 10664
>>10660
>I usually download reproductions from torrents
Now that's a whole new category of files what people torrent for me.
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No. 10665
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>>10645
Dutch painters are always so ebin

Egbert II van Heemskerck
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No. 10666
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>>10645
:-DDDD
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No. 10677
>>10660
>where do you find hi-res reproductions
When doing a Google search, add "google art project" to find hi resolution results. 'Google art project' doesn't have to be in quotation marks. As an example I searched Google art project garden of earthly delights and got this as the top result:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights_by_Bosch_High_Resolution.jpg

The original file is 222.86mb.
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No. 10678
>>10677
Awesome, thanks.
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No. 10683
>>10677
mhhh, when I try this with an artist name I'm interested in, it gets me to some weird site

https://artsandculture.google.com/partner/galerija-josip-generalić

that definitely has some hi-res pictures of that artist but they are protected against downloads...
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No. 10687
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>>10683
There used to be a script that downloads high res images off of google art institute, but it stopped working after a while (google changed something in their API)

Shame.
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No. 10688
>>10687
I probably shouldn't have saved in in png, but I was afraid I'd lose color accuracy after painstakingly color correcting the original washed out, low contrast scan for hours.

Ruined many a color palette by relaying on jpg
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No. 10694
>>10683
It's not a perfect search method-I'm sorry it didn't help you. Wikimedia Commons has a lot of the art available for download-probably scraped before Google changed their API as >>10687 said. I looked but didn't see Josip Generalić.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Google_Art_Project_works_by_artist
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No. 10709
>>10687
That is a beautiful image, truly. Thank you for posting it.
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No. 10711 Kontra
>>10694
>I'm sorry it didn't help you

No need to be sorry. Your method is good, it's just the copyright troll technologies who suck donkey balls.
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No. 10714
>>10709
Thanks, but now that I look at it, I'm still unsatisfied by color separation.

I managed to separate the green grass from the yellow cliffs (in the original scan, the image was so washed out that they both appeared yellow), but in the process it looks like I deepened the dark greens to the point where they blend in with the deep blues.

You can see the bushes and tree branches on top of the dark blue are not readable. The dark greens turned cold (something like phthalo green, whereas in the original I suspect they were warmer, like sap green or something.

I'll have to work on it some more.

Then again, those being prints, no two copies are identical, they aged differently, and the equipment used to scan / digitize them was different as well, so who knows what it was intended to look like. I guess one way to find out would be to make a chemical analysis of the pigments, and make an accurate reproduction. Or research the common pigments used in that era, and make an educated guess as to which ones were used for this particular print.
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No. 10715
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How do you treat chronic Lyme disease? Are there any decent cheap online outlets on the grey market or clearnet for buttloads of antibiotics and gabapentin? What sort of memory and concentration tests can you do to become better at it?
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No. 10719
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I just felt a feel. I remembered my saturday morning TV program from when I was ~7-9. It started pretty early but it was ebin. It started with MASH and then Hogan's Heroes and then Bonanza. Star Trek TNG and Lost in Space were also on, but I didn't always watch them because by the time they were on, everybody else was up and usually the news got put on or something. Sometimes I got to watch them anyway though.
Updated with additional infa just remembered
t. getting flashbacks for days

Did other Ernsts have favourite TV shows when he was young?
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No. 10721
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>>10719
All sorts of cartoons played in the morning here. I prefered the ones in Cartoon Network but they weren't dubbed or subtitled.
Some of the cartoons were dubbed in Spanish, most notably Doraemon. It didn't even strike me as weird at the time, some cartoons were simply in Spanish. Now whenever I think of half of a dozen cartoons, I immediately remember the over the top Spanish yelling in the intros.
It was interesting that since the cartoons followed no specific schedule, you would only realize they were cancelled several weeks after they'd been pulled.
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No. 10730
>>10715
Are you referring to "chronic lyme desease"?
I recently read the Wikipedia article on it after i saw an super obscure twitter profile of someone sort of "identifying" with chronic lyme.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_Lyme_disease
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No. 10731 Kontra
>>10730
Sorry i actually overread that you said "chronic" yourself and EC doesnt let me delete my post.

I'm interested however, how do you feel about the rejection of chronic lyme in the medical academia so far? Are you 100% certain about your diagnosis, or could it be something different too?
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No. 10733
>>10719

>We interrupt this morning's CheezTV broadcast to bring you live coverage from New York City. It appears a plane has FLOWN INTO the World Trade Centre! We have our US correspondents standing by, and will bring you further news as it develops
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No. 10734
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>>10719
Why is it that on some days the past just seem closer? I always recall small random things, but sometimes I can remember not just a single event, but the string of days that led up to it and what happened after-a whole block of time all like it was just last month and not 10 years ago. And then the next day it's all gone again.
>favourite TV shows
Star Trek:TNG was actually the first non-cartoon that I can distinctly remember as a favorite. I especially liked the later seasons that relied on character development for a story, instead of just introducing new aliens and such. TBH I didn't even mind when they gave Deanna Troi a regulation uniform, because it really did make more sense from a character perspective. Of course their developing her into a believable commanding officer always seemed a little rushed to me. Best episode: Starship Mine.
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No. 10735
>>10733
I cannot understate how angry I was when my evening session of cartoons got interrupted by 9/11. I was happily watching cartoons and playing with my toys in my grandma's commieblock when my mom arrives to pick me up, she rushes to the living room and turns the TV to the news as the first plane had just hit the first tower. She and my grandparents looked fairly panic striken as they watched the footage of the planes slamming into the towers over and over again.

The absolutely refused to let me put my cartoons on again after an entire half hour of watching the same event over different angles.

That was the day I swore revenge on Islam.
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No. 10738
>>10719
>Did other Ernsts have favourite TV shows when he was young?

I remember these from my childhood in the 80s, all if them were pretty great in their specific, unique ways: Centennial, Huckleberry Finn and His Friends, La Piovra, The Fall Guy, Il était une fois…l’Homme, Die schwarzen Brüder, Battlestar Galactica, The Little Vampire, The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams, Lucie - postrach ulice, Emil i Lönneberga, Rote Erde, Shogun, Marco Polo, The Beachcombers, Nirusu no fushigi na tabi, Auf Achse, Silas, Návštěvníci, Die rote Zora und ihre Bande, Wallenstein

From 90s I just remember the various Star Treks and Babylon 5...
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No. 10739
>>10719

>Did other Ernsts have favourite TV shows when he was young? 

I remember these from my childhood in the 80s, all of them were pretty great in their specific, unique ways: Centennial, Huckleberry Finn and His Friends, La Piovra, The Fall Guy, Il était une fois…l’Homme, Die schwarzen Brüder, Battlestar Galactica, The Little Vampire, The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams, Lucie - postrach ulice, Emil i Lönneberga, Rote Erde, Shogun, Marco Polo, The Beachcombers, Nirusu no fushigi na tabi, Auf Achse, Silas, Návštěvníci, Die rote Zora und ihre Bande, Wallenstein

From 90s I just remember the various Star Treks and Babylon 5...
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No. 10741
>>10735
>I cannot understate how angry I was when my evening session of cartoons got interrupted by 9/11
>That was the day I swore revenge on Islam
KC tire revenge.
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No. 10753
>>10735
Wait but why? You're Portuguese. Why should they even care about a thing like that? As for the day my reaction was pretty much thinking it was odd how much it was like a movie, and then worrying about all the shitty things that could happen afterwards. And indeed, everything about America proceeded to become shitty for the next 17 years.
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No. 10757
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>>10753
>Wait but why? You're Portuguese. Why should they even care about a thing like that?

Why wouldn't the news report on such a major and shocking terrorist attack? It was an event that was broadcast around the world.
Did you think the news would go "In recent news, some towers in the USA got hit by planes in a terror attack, a couple of thousands died. Now back to sports!"
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No. 10761
>>10757
In retrospect it honestly wasn't such a big deal, to me at least. Like the tsunami that wiped out a lot of Indonesia back in, 04 I think it was, now that was a pretty huge deal but nobody cared about it besides sending some aid and relief networks. It was largely ignored by the news. The main problem with corporate broadcasting is it often panders to the lowest common denominator like much of the rest of society. Oh look, some celebrity said something shocking and now this is on the news all the fucking time. It's part of why Americans are so pigshit ignorant and then when a few decide not to watch the crap on corporate news they instead decide to go for something even more shrill and dumber and divorced from reality.
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No. 10764
>>10735
I remember an episode of Dragon Ball Z had to be played out of order because of 9/11. having seen the preview teaser I knew which episode should have been on, but then when I sat down to watch they played a different one. For some reason that episode being postponed made such an impact on me that I still remember it. I guess those were my priorities back then.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Gohan%27s_First_Date
>This episode's English version did not air on its intended date of September 19, 2001, because it features a tall building that is aflame. Given that this would've aired 8 days after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, it was determined to be too sensitive to air. Therefore, the next episode, "Rescue Videl", was aired in its place. It ended up debuting on November 27, 2001, 2.5 months after 9/11.
>>10761
>In retrospect it honestly wasn't such a big deal, to me at least.

Of course it had to be a big deal to people that actually lost family and such, but for the majority of us it really could have been just another tragedy like a plane crash or whatever. Thinking back on it, how the news was literally on 24 hours a day commercial free through the week and into the weekend-that was to sear the event into our national consciousness. I guess it worked. Two decades of war and no one is complaining.
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No. 10767
>>10753
>As for the day my reaction was pretty much thinking it was odd how much it was like a movie, and then worrying about all the shitty things that could happen afterwards

Definitely the same for me.
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No. 10788
>>10753
I remember adults around me were really worried because they thought world war 3 was starting :-DDDD.

They were like "fuck, we just got our shit together after USSR fall, now those fuckers ruined it again"
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>>10721
>over the top Spanish yelling
Ebin. That sounds hilarious tbh. I never really watched many cartoons though. Hogan's Heroes was my shit though. It combined my burgeoning autistic fixation on history with ebin joges.

>>10734
I can't really pick a favourite TNG episode. Like many shows I like, it's more the overall feel and composition of the thing that gets me excited than individual plots.

>>10738
Tbh, I'm semi-jealous of European cartoon variety. All we had was shit like Batman and Power Rangers and a lot of shit-tier Australian productions. For some reason we have ebin childrens book characters like Blinky Bill but terrible ability to actually make animated works.

>>10788
Ebin. I remember getting told off for laughing at the jumpers :-DDDDDD
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No. 10801
>>10790

Who needs cartoons when you have Lift-Off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDZ-9_mQcTU
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No. 10868
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>>10801
>Lift-Off
>A doll named EC?
>on EC?
I'm sorry, but I had to do this.
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>>10719
My first tv series probably that I watcher in some sort of order and that was not a crtoon was StarGare SG-1. I really like it back than. And yes I not seen an original movie in long long time after I actually seen tv series. Now while I trying to rewatch it again, first season feels painfully cheap and a lot plot holes and some scenes where it is obvious that scenarists and other people in team not experienced enough. Not as cheap as Xena Warrior Princess that I started rewatching also not long ago, this is like the bottom of cheapness, lol. I remember how such style tv series was a parodied in terminator tv series.

>>10734
Funny that after original series it was really hard to move onto TNG. I seen TOS, even TAS, TOS movies, but TNG at start feeled boring abd like shitty boring version of TOS mixed with "Alf" lol. But nowdays I appretiate early seasons for parts of ideas and atmosphere that was lost. Early TNG was kind of trying re-cycle of failed Phase-II tv series. Also on Phase-II ideas directly build motion picture movie and you camke clear parralels - like Commander Decker/early Riker, Diana Troi/Illia or how this bald woman was called, Data/that cut Vulcan litenaunt that should replace spock you can see him in earth scenes in TMP etc.
But when I can make a clear list of Good and bad episodes and mixed for TOS, it harder to make it for TNG, but I should add that what was made in late TNG I feel like was done in DS9 better.
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No. 10871
>>10870
Between TNG and DS9,I agree that DS9 was the better series. While TNG episodes can be watched in any order, DS9 used longer story arcs and had major world changes from one season to the next. Since the writers had more space/time to work, they were able to tell better stories. It helps a lot when the characters don't have to end the hour right back where they started. It was closer to the kind of storytelling we see in a lot of in current TV dramas. Honestly I find it harder to separate the good episodes from the bad with DS9, because I mostly think of that one in terms of the story arcs, rather than the individual episodes like in TNG. I also had no idea Phase II had influenced TNG so much. I guess we know a lot more about TV production and behind the scenes stuff than we used to.
>Xena Warrior Princess
That is definitely the bottom in terms of cheapness, but I still watched it.
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>>10871
>Between TNG and DS9,I agree that DS9 was the better series.
It hard to compare them really, since they have different tone, different style and different characters overall. Both series share same philosophy but done absoluetly drom different sides of view. However I may say that yeah, DS9, exept a couple of first episodes is more "mature" tv series - and in therms of plots, and in therms of in-universe lore. Good example is Nog character - a lot people point out that this is wastley "done right". But hell. never watch this serises side-by side. late TNG seasons - you already feel characters, you feel at home when watching them, characters become more mature, plots continues and more interesting, while DS9 already different, but early episodes plus for that they different also not on level of late TNG so you may assume that DS9 is total shit. So it better finish TNG and at least first of it's movies, and then move to DS9 after some time.

>While TNG episodes can be watched in any order
I'd say not mutch. It still far from be very connected and a lot episodes have little connection, but there continiuty is much stronger than TOS. I can - and I often do - watch TOS in random order, but I can't say same for TNG. There still something happening, something changing, style of TVseries changed, characters with each episode remember more from previous ones, some characters die permanetly and at the end of series there so many things you will not get if you watch in random order, like Picard playing music on fluite.

>Honestly I find it harder to separate the good episodes from the bad with DS9, because I mostly think of that one in terms of the story arc
There not much really BAD episodes, if we tell in therms of what I consider A BAD episode by TOS/TNG standarts. Exept early ones, where I remember particular episode - NEW SPECIES ARRIVED AND THEY WANT PLAY GAME AND THEY PLACED CHARACTERS INTO THE GAME - c'mon it is like repeating of worst early TNG and late TOS episodes.

>I also had no idea Phase II had influenced TNG so much
Well, this is funny story with Phase-II that this series had no chances to happen. In early 70s was not money even for cartoon. In mid 70s they got money and start already doing something, but this series will never be as glorious is it planned - in many ways it was more conservative mix of TOS and new things. When they given much, much more budget and was forced to make movie, it finnaly start look how it should be.
Nowdays I feel lime motion picture with all it's floas still my favorite movie of all. Roddenberry really wanted make Space Oddysey, but better since 60s. And now he did it. He used pilot episode plot for Phase II, alttered it and did awesome movie with awesome atmosphere, style, and new feel. I don't even metion music and speccial effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHjLsvEOeS0&t=2s they worked soo hard on it. It not the super best already, even by it's time, like in mine opinion cheap as hell Alien was best as spessial effects for 1979, but if only this came out in like 1973...
But price for it was there will be no TV series - ironicly he killed all his new characters in this movie that should play major role thought all Phase-II
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So next TOS movies... I remember I liked them back when was younger. Cinemotagraphic stories, cool events, kirk, spock, mccoy, all guys you like doing coll adventures across the galaxy, and 2-3-4 movies even continue each other, what and adventure! However nowdays from this persperctive there a more of dissapointment in therms of be star trek. A lot of things there was made itentionally more holywood-y and more ground level than high style of star trek. This movies become more like "a star wars based on old 60s tv series" than star trek.

You see, in first movie, it was like evolution of star trek - evolution in what it was meant to be. Space Oddysey-style adventure with a lot of patience, moral story, emotions and same time actual aiming on future, technology and unknown things in space perfectly match what star trek should me. There people explorers of stragne things. They more high mentaly and moraly than we, modern humands and you can clear see it. And in all things - decorations, special effects, uniforms you see that this share and evolves ideas of TOS to more mature and advanced level. Something that Roddenberry failed to do in original mosty due to lack of practical experience and budget.

2-6 movies are different. They in many ways like just OH SPACE ADVENTURE IN FUTURE, HERE WE HAVE LASORS, HERE RANDOM LOCATIONS, AND SOMETHING HAPPENING, HERE SOME FAMILIAR CHARACTERS FROM PAST. From big picture - like most of them just repeat most poular blockbuster plots and scheme of creaction to little details.
On big picture you see - battle against cool han boom boom, battle against klingons, adventure of cool team of guys against rules, cool time travel, 6 movie even sometimes feels more like JJ Abrams movie than star trek since it just jump across locations, "hard" plot, action, and all this tihngs.
On smaller picture you see details - new cool uniform of "canadian police" as I call it broke all logic in star trek universe of how uniform should look, I not even say something aboutofficers of security uifortms, movies explote balter-like and more "fun looking" special effects, there no background for many details - things like FUCKING PRISON ASTERIOD THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE COLD PLANET or this bar where mccoy with spock mind arrived is just like "whatever" location with some meme refferences like in star wars. And this movie is full of it - there almost no actual "star trek things" in them.

Worst scene for me is from 6th movie this meeting of admirals and officers. On their uniform they even have fucking plates with their medal like modern military and they disscus military things! Like just fucking look at people and they moral and how tings look in first movie or even in fucking TOS, compare to them this guys from 6th movie is not federation, this is pre-hisoric apes from XX centuary. This is almost look like this is not a star trke, but Starship Troopers movie. Star trek that looks like a parody on militarism! As I like to comment it just by this quotes of Picard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZltSUBw_hW0
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At in the end - yeas, TNG at first in many ways just re-branded Phase-II. It use hell lot of characters, concepts, even some plots of episodes directly from Phase II. But same way as movie, this also not a complete phase II - it is in early stages much more cheap, and inserted different ideas, or altered them. Like conflict that Decker's father was a guy commander from TOS doomsday machine episode (I think you remember who I metion) and there a conflict with Kirk about this, was replaced that Picard and father of weasley crusher, for example.

And more series go - more it was clear that TNG become it's own thing. They abadoned hell lot of ideas and concepts from early TNG that was donated from Phase-II - overall high moral tone - they lowervered level of moral a little bit, they not used a separation of main section and sauser almost, uniforms was re-designer from mix of TOS and TMP to somthing more regular in therms of materials and thicness, plots changed overall, even idea of that klingon empire was defeated and assimilated which was metioned once in one of the most early episodes was qulicky abadoned and retconed.

This why I like early TNG more nowdays - I see it like lost bits of Phase II. I know that my ideal Phase II has no chances to become a real thing - but I still deam of what if, star trek had a TV series in 70s in style and with budget of TMP, without re-appearing and more and more old TOS actos (well kirk may appear sometimes as admiral. Or he can be captian and skotty engeneer, but cleary spock and some others there not entierly fit), but something really new and in style of psce oddysey, with most high 70s science fiction narrative and feel.
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>>10878
>compare to them this guys from 6th movie is not federation, this is pre-hisoric apes from XX centuary.
Moments like this always destroy Hollywood movies. No matter what time period or culture, characters are written as if they are 20th century Americans. The video of Picard is exactly right. You can't have a show with advanced technologies without also presenting characters who demonstrate how that technology has impacted culture and behavior. That is the hardest thing to get right in science fiction.
>even idea of that klingon empire was defeated and assimilated which was metioned once in one of the most early episodes was qulicky abadoned and retconed.
They got some of their best stories by exploring Klingon culture. I think the most honest depiction of both the Federation and the Klingon Empire would be where they were in an unstable peace. That's kind of what they did in TNG. The truce was a big part of the lore, but it was more believable because the two sides came into conflict from time to time.
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>>10903
>They got some of their best stories by exploring Klingon culture. I think the most honest depiction of both the Federation and the Klingon Empire would be where they were in an unstable peace.
I don't say TNG is bad, I say that it become a little bit more grounded compare to original idea of making really NEXT generation, compare to which even Motion picture federation and technologies be pre-hestoric.