Looks like I'll be alone in this thread for quite some time, so for bumb I will post interesting examples of anthro animal costumes that was used for movies and videogames. This is kind of thing I was always interested in - in such realistic detailed costumes, opposite to terrible furry suits which looks like shitty chienese soft toy with acid colors.
First is from "Star Trek IV The Voyage Home" movie background Caitian character
Second and third is Kilrathi from "Wing Commander III" cinematic cutscenes
Last one is interesting costume from "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" TV seties which I never watched but may try one day.

Like this picture, kinda like "more realistic sonic". It hard actually to make prpoer anthro hedgehog, and this honestely not looks that much like one, but it at least made same familiar cartoon-looking characters as more belivable thing, but still recognisable.

I never felt anything regarding humanoid animals.
The ones you have posted, while well drawn, don't really appeal to me aesthetically.

Of course there are furries. I have a slight disdain towards them. Not on the grounds of what they like but how they like it. I find them too exhibitionist.

In general an offspin of totemism and shamanism.

Blacksad was a detective comic that had pretty good anthropomorphism. They were a series of noir stories, but with animals standing in for humans. The artist is Juanjo Guarnido.

>>11088
Don't think I don't know what you're doing.
You posted in a past today threda >>6111

>I'm not like other furries
>Trust me guys I'm a good furry

Fuck you.
This kind of pretend bullshit doesn't work on me.
By posting about general anthropomorphism you can very slowly steer the conversation towards furries,
at which point the thread attracts more furries. You said this yourself:

>Hope there will be people who interested in this thematics as much, as myself. And maybe we can attract to club more new people.

No. Fuck you. I don't want your kind here.
You want to post here? No furry bullshit. No anthro bullshit. Okay?

>>11452
I hope that you will be banned from ernstchan as soon as possible. I don't want see 4cancers and poltards here. But there more and more of them appear sometimes - I feel worried for ernstchan.

>>11439

>furries

I don't like how overall situation turned out. I don't like how there "community" appeared that represent only small number of people. It like if there be special club of people who eat bananas. And all other people in world thought: if people eat bananas, he most probably from this club. I don't know what to do in this kind of situation. Maybe this one of reasons I created this thread: maybe I wierdo too, I agree with that, but I clearly don't associate myself with "furry culture" or how they call it and for most part feel spanish shame about it.

>>11447
Kinda wierd thing, I nay say. Some have clear cartoonish elements, some other clear animal parts, other is almost just humans wuth wierd combination if some animal parts. For girl from last panel - with this lips and human body structure mixed with other is not somethibg I personally like, sadly.

>>11457
you have to accept that furries are really disliked in most places because they tend to spam their shit everywhere all the time.
you may not like these or those special furry shit but you still post furry shit on ernst.

at least have the decency to spoiler the pics or whateverr

>>11459

>you have to accept that furries are really disliked in most places because they tend to spam their shit everywhere all the time.

Well, only person who aggresively not liked it at this point was candian poster, who is new and more act like 4channer, and I not surpised to see such respond. I surprised not to see in his post more poltard things in one posst, but whatever.

>at least have the decency to spoiler the pics or whateverr

I not posted anything NSWF. Some pics of this is from actual mass media - from video games or comic books or movies/tv series. And while it in just regular life - everyone okay with it, but when someone posting this pictures in dedicated thread, and want to talk about concretic idea of such creatures, it become "something bad, negative, post it in spoiler" which I found as interesting example of double thinking (I not say anything bad about you or something, this things are probably on some instinct-level and you will not spot it untill you want really think about it)

>you may not like these or those special furry shit but you still post furry shit on ernst.

This sounds kinda rude and sad for me, however I understand that from your point of view everything looks like that
Furry is ones who love antropomorphic animals --> What I know about furry is that this a bumch of wierdos who wear shitty costumes, shit pants and fuck eachother and they all very strange people --> I trying to avoid or stay negative about whole theme because only people I know who like it is bad group of ugly wierdos.

However in reality there much "furris" than you think, but because in all modern culture famous only one particular "community" and stereotypes about them, most people who actually like it just avoiding to talk about this because they know that people don't like this group and he don't want this stereotypes attached to them. Maybe, in this thread, I can and explain this infamous group in more detailes and actualy think about this group why it like that and what to do, and also, show that this is just fetish, and often combined with estetic and logical non-sexual interest and you don't need to jerk off on this things to be interested and disscus this topic with others, since this always was in some degree part of human culture - from religions and totemism and legends to science fiction and fantasy.

We just wanted to have a nice day in Tropical Island and you had to ruin it for all of us OP.

>>11498
rated

>>11491
I completely agree with him and I've been here since xyz first came back. I just didn't say anything because you, in particular, I don't dislike and decided to not be completely disrespectful the way I normally would.

>However in reality there much "furris" than you think

You posted a picture of a rat with tits. Completely validates that point. And yes I know the MtG that's from too.

>>11498
Oh shit I missed that, good one

>>11491
The problem is that all this extremely low qualtiy disgusting gfur everywhere has made me hate all furries with a burning passion.

No maybe I can't see tits or vagoos or whatever but I still consider these NSFW in the meaning of the word - that I would not like to be seen browsing a site with these things on it.

>>11498
Don't get it. It because Vivisector game from op picture kinda based on "The Island of Dr. Moreau"?

>>11504

>and I've been here since xyz first came back.

And I one of the first posters and on original Ernstchan and here, so what?

>You posted a picture of a rat with tits. Completely validates that point.

What point this validates? You know that "X profs that this is X" is not an argument of some sort?
Yes, I posted picture of anthropomorphic rat. It's SFW, yeas it is from mass media - MTG game. Yes I find her esteticly beautiful and like this picture. So what you want to proof by making this post?

>be completely disrespectful

For me it sounds kinda insulting. I don't want be crying baby about "oh somebody on internet said something to me!" but personally and honestely things like that when for no reason I in position of some kind of "untermench" (don't have another therm for this) is something that yes, made me sad.

>>11507

>The problem is that all this extremely low qualtiy disgusting gfur everywhere has made me hate all furries with a burning passion.

Hate all "furries"? At first I already said, that this infamous community is not represent all people who like this thematic by any mean. At second, even about this community for reasons of internet known only most terrible memes that gone to some absurd level already. At third, every community, every event everything that part of mass culture have a lot low level content. Anime posters, political posters, imagebords in general - but I think not have such hate by default as this. At fourth I don't remember any "furry spams" in like years and personally not seen even one, looking and mass people opinion in recent years it become less agressive towards furries, and I don't expected from ernstchan such answers honestely.

>No maybe I can't see tits or vagoos or whatever but I still consider these NSFW in the meaning of the word - that I would not like to be seen browsing a site with these things on it.

What kind of logic is that? Sorry, but this is nonsence. Totally accepted SFW pictures, more than half of them from regular mass media for averege people or even kids, that by any mean is neutral, with absoluetly neutral posts, and you answering "I don't want to see it because I think this is NSFW and I hate "furries" because something." I don't belive in logical construction here.

Like, for example if I say "I hate anime, I don't like anime posters and on this pics I cleary see NSFW in this pictures even if they SFW from childerns cartoon and I don't want to see it here" - this is absoluetly ridiculous and sorry, but very primitive logic.

I created this thread not to dumb pictures, not to shitpost and not to insult someone. I want at first make this thematic not taboo, at second somehow at least change opinions like that, because they sounds absoluetly bizzare to me.

>>11511
hmmmmmmm k

>>11512
Not a quality answer... but whatever.

>>11513
I read both your posts, I'm just not interested in furry on this board but as you can't change my and I can't change your opinion I just deal with it.

or "k".

>>11514
Well you not get porn shitpost spam or something if you fear that and think that I will force some shit-tier hentai.

>>11515
tbh you should delete your thread and forget about it. Discussion about antropomorphic creatueres could be fine but it will never leave the realm of furries, so whatever.

>>11517
Because you hate this thrmatic from your stereotypes? I not contradict any rules by this thread, I not shitposting and not spamming. And one of goals of such disscutions I have to at least at some degree break such attitude towards this thrmatic.

>>11521
You're trying to create a furry thread. Don't be so disingenuous. Just use the new spoiler images then.

>>11522
For fuck sake, you call me disingenuous? You act like absolute asshole towards me like I some kind of subhuman and force me to delete or to hide in spoilers something that allowed even for 5 year old kids just because you full of 4cancer shit.

I created thread what I already created and I not "trying" to do sometheng. You know what? I fucking drawed this pic for spoiler images, and ernstchan symbol is actually kind of antropomorphic animal, what a tripple irony. What a nonsensical hypocrisy, I can't even belive that I reading this crap.
And please, don't pointlesly sage threads if you don't want anybody sage yours.

I like the concept of antropomorphism from a mythological and storytelling perspective, I think it's a great tool to convey the aesthetic of a character as a metaphor for an animal.

Of course, americans always have to ruin everything with their degeneracy, like they ruined sonic.

>>11527
Hey I liked american sonic boom
It really interesting but really like ironic parody sitcom where a lot of things changed intetionaly. There a lot really funny jokes and I like overall narrative. Sad that probably after 2 seasons it will not be continued.
https://youtu.be/0gA6Mdk26wQ

>>11528
Me too, actually. It's pretty entertaining.

By american sonic I meant largely the weird-ass 90s-00s comics and cartoons that feel nothing like sonic, but some weird deviantart fanfiction (which they, tbh, are). Complete with donut steal OC characters.

(this is going to turn into another sonic thread, isn't it :-DDDDDDD)

>>11514
>>11517
Please stop attacking OP. His taste in art might be a bit unorthodox but all he wants is to discuss it. And whether you like it or not, antropomorphic animals have always been part of human culture and will always be. Probably before the jews forbid it intercourse between humans and animals was pretty normal (because why would they have forbidden it otherwise?), maybe the whole furry fetish thing is some kind of collective memory reactivated. However I am not implying that OP is a furry, he just has a genuine interest in the topic (I mean, honestly - look at the pictures and you will see nothing sexualizing, maybe only if you're sexualizing human bodies in general). This is a place of free and serious discussion, we shouldn't be afraid of touching topics we don't like or even feel disgusted about.
The discussion about if the images are SFW or NSFW is an interesting point, as normal people would probably feel a bit weirded out when they'd see those deviant-art tier pictures. But to be honest I don't really give a shit about what those people think when one of us cannot post what he wants to post.

Then again, a freely associated community like ours is build on perpetual trust and hindsight, so OP, even though you might think that you're in the right, try to respect what the other Ernsts wrote and maybe use spoilers next time if you're posting the "deviant art tier" drawings (I think nobody has a problem with the comic drawings or the movie puppets).

>>11534

>Probably before the jews forbid it intercourse between humans and animals was pretty normal (b

I like how you so deftly were able to make the entire thread so much worse in a single sentence

>>11535
To my defense I have to say that I was laughing heavily while typing this one down. Still, I don't find the argument itself so ridiculous. I don't know if the presence of inter-species sexuality in prehistoric times is a topic in academic sciences, but I'd find it pretty interesting.

>>11532
Isn't it ironic that Sonic Desighn was in first place hugely inspired by very early 20s disney characters desighn? But still he become unique since was added EDGY elements.

But in 90s, it was not a surprise. there are number of reasons why was done like this:
1.All adopted massed media from both Japan to USA and vice versa was hugely changed to adopt it for local audience. I still find it hilarious how Japanise versions of western RPG games was changed - graphics, style, added cutscenes. Even of more late might and magic 3 which already ad complex graphics by itself, they re-draw slightly character portraits to make faces more anime and added absoluetly pointless anime-style combat scene at start that has no any logic to te game and it was really hilarious. Same as for adopting this to USA they was like - "create him a story what local kids kinda like and understand, without wierd foreign stuff"
2.There was not much of story back than. It was just a character and concept around it. There was some backstories but they honestely not affect games and was not that important. All you have in games - a cartoonish hedgehog running around crazy zones and there evil egg like guy who build robots and capture animals - then was added a flying multi-tail like japan guys love it fox, which piloting a biplan plane also, and knuckles. On top of that you can insert any story you want and any characters you want.

However I agree that.. I know not that much - I mean I know story and elements but never readed myself, but it indeed feels very like fanfic of teenager. However, on this was based anime-style cartoon sonic-X if I remember correctly, and people generally positive about it. However things like this Sally character... in comic you posted she is done at least at some level okay, but in original art it was (I even not post a picture in this thread, not because it NSFW but because I don't want make furry reputation even more low by this lol https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/archiesonic/images/a/a2/Sally_Acorn_Profile.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121212081306 ) like someone tried insert in Sonic simplistic proportions something like generic furry. ANd it is really, really out of place, espessialy in this cartoon. However there was even more fanfic-tier cartoon than this - sonic undeground. And this is so generic but same time fanfic with OC-tier charactes.. I seen only premesis and description but it was enough.

But Again, it was not only fault of americans. Japan kinda don't know what to do after it same way - they have limited set of characters, they have simplistic plot and idea - what to do next? And they done Sonic Adventure. I not familiar overall with sonic universe from Adventure and after it that much, I played thought first adventure, seen a little bit of second and shadow game, and generations but that's it, and honestely it not looks that much better. Like in first game dialogues, what happening, scenes all this things is hilarious as fuck. Not even it look like their first attempt to make something in 3d and it almost immideatly seen how umpolised it is, from plot and other perspectives it same. I still remember knuckles' "oh no" lol. And other new characters was not that brilliant idea of desighn mastermind.
Only thing that I love about adventures is Big the Cat. And when I dicovered he was voiced by jon st john my first thought is there a mod that replace his voice with Duke nukem (duke nukem is probably most famous voicework of him - and of cource there is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SHmrHOKMUo !!
Yes, I know, it is dumb as hell but I laughed so hard when seen it.

>(this is going to turn into another sonic thread, isn't it :-DDDDDDD)

If it isn't sonic!

If it isn't Sonic?

>>11534

>try to respect what the other Ernsts wrote and maybe use spoilers next time if you're posting the "deviant art tier" drawings

Well, if I going to post really something that can distract people, I don't dumb, I hide it or just post external link. I just can't predict what people call "deviantart tier" - ther hell lot variaty of different art, and there may apper another guy and say "hey it's shit I don't like it" - what should I do? For such thing we need to hide absoluetly all pics in therm's in someone's sick mind it is become NSFW for some reason. Like pic related - concept for famous videogame, but without contecst I can imagine someone may say this is "deviant art tier I hate it".
Like before in same tihns thread I get respond that "I know this art from MTG (famous card based tabletop game for everyone) but here you not allowed to post it here, it furry and terrible" - this is most ridiculous doublethinking I ever experienced in my life, it almost 1984 tier.

>However I am not implying that OP is a furry

No, I may count by one honestely. I have sexual attraction to all of this and have bestiality issues. However, I already said in this thread, that I have and estethic and logical and cultural interest in topic too. I'am not a 14yo child who wants jerk off every five mintes. And same way like all of us find attraction to humans without sexual contecst - same do I for animals nad antropomorphic animals. Comparing me to furry stereotype of wierdo in shitty costume who shittinh his pants is feels insulting by itself, since I did everything to not present myself in this way and I found it pretty lame too.

>Probably before the jews forbid it intercourse between humans and animals was pretty normal

Well, if take a real serious note on this histroic-sociology topic, people always was attracted by animals, but religions and others laws that forbidden bestiality had their points back then. In main part - actual deseases and health issues. With level of medecine of this times even just human relationships was lethal often. We don't knew what viruses are, how deseases spread thought physical contact and of cource such contacts with animals have their riscs to lead to horrible deseases back then. It same as Ilam rules - of not touch ass by your hands, use only naturally growed stuff, avoiding eating pig meat and other advices at times of creation of Islam was really good advises. They just become outdated, however nowdays there no single objective argument against human-animal realationshps, but look at respond even to such neutral thread I fear I will encounter capital punishment from this american or this other german poster.

>>11535
Sorry to say it to you, but only thing that made this thread worse if your one-liner sage posts. You ignorant and acting like a baby.

>>11540

>and have bestiality issues.

That is genuinely revolting and you should feel bad.

>>11541
I don't think feeling bad about a sexual paraphilia is the right way to deal with it. It's better to work on what one is actually trying to substitute with it - physical and spiritual intimacy and sexual fulfillment.

>>11541
Why? At first, I'am not fucked anyone in my life and most probably will never will anyway so this is a talk about nothing
At second, there difference between zoophilia and "Animal abuse" even thought people place equality between this therms.

But this really not the topic I want disscus in this thread, this format, at least not in current time, since I feel like such talks will may create huuuge disputes and arguings between people here which will be very negative experience for everyone, so better avoid talking this thinks at least untill time people will not hate even pictures from videogame concepts here so much since it will not create a disscutions, but more insults.

>>11540
Well, uh, I also have a pandora's box of degenerative obsessions, but in recognizing that they're wrong and bad, I control them by simply not acknowledging them, not thinking about them, and only indulging occasionally with sole pragmatic purpose of getting rid of them for a while.

It is a way of ensuring that such obsessions don't take over my identity, and keep hidden in a far corner of my mind where it doesn't interact with anything else. I refuse to let some irrational perversions to creep into my conscious mind.

I don't know why some people feel the need to advertise their perversions, it really is a case of nobody but you cares. I think it's common courtesy to not bother people with such stuff.

Not accusing you of anything, just my thoughts on sexual deviancy and how to deal with it.

t. closet pervert

>>11546
In case of zoophilia - I don't wanted talk about it and not even remotley started this disscution, but when other people touched this topic it hard for me to not talk about it since I think it is really importnt.
I not a fan of talking about sexuality on public. Modern culture have too much obession with sex and I think it too much. On other hand, it is impossibe to build a degree of tolerance without speaking about topic. When all humans become iq500 ultramasterminds with super experience we will probably don't need it.

To mine issues if you interested - I know it is not part of 100% normal human behaivor. But who of us ideal? Anybody have his own psyhological issues, this what form your personality. I not "fighting" my fetishes because they don't harm anyone and I don't count them as something really bad or that far from normal so I need to go against my preferenses that was with me almost entire life. And I say to you that if you forcing yourself to hide your feels even if you personally thought that they not that bad but only because society opinion - this is not really good idea and can damage your mental health much, mhch more.

>>11537
What came out was

>people only dislike fucking animals because it's the Jews fault

Which in general is a pretty good summation of where this thread immediately headed and why people hate furry shit, because it is never about "anthro animals" and mythology it is always about fucked up fetishes. I wasn't even going to suggest it being linked to bestiality but well there you go.

>>11544
I would say raping an animal is the purest form of animal abuse there is.

>hate even pictures from videogame concepts here so much since it will not create a disscutions, but more insults.

I already explicitly hated that some games like Master of Orion did this even as a kid. I did not learn until later on it wasn't just lack of creativity but genuine perversion creating bad quality conent.

I don't have anthro pictures, but I have some pictures of animals making human-like expressions, so I guess I'll post them to keep the thread relevant.

I find it fascinating that there's this cross-species comprehension of mammalian facial expression between the species. It feels kinda comfy knowing that even though we may eat and kill each other, we're still part of one big mammalian family, and we can understand each other just by looking each other in the eyes. You don't get that kind of primal understanding when looking at fish or birds.

It is my fantasy that one day technology will defeat the original sin, and all creatures will live in friendship and harmony, enjoying our shared time together in this life, regardless of artificial borders of "species" pr "intelligence".

>>11547
I follow kantian non-consequentialist morality. Basically, the result of your actions don't matter, what matters is the virtue and aesthetic of the action itself. It doesn't matter that the only causal result of your sin is a semeen stain on your floor, what matters is that you gave in to degenerate urges and stained your own consciousness with sin.
It's the virtue of the action that matters, not the consequence.

>>11557
There was a second version of the first image, wasn't there?

>>11561
:-DDDDDDDDDD

Also, chimps are fucking badass. I wish I could eat plants all day and be ripped as hell, how cool is that?

>>11557
Tbh a good deal of that is anthropomorphisizing non-human animals. Like we can roughly tell certain things about birds too but in general most of our "awareness" of non-human facial features is simply projecting our own humanness outward. In truth most of them really don't make many expressions similar to humans and we often misread them anyway because our brains are hard wired for finding human facial cues. A much better understanding comes from body language. Trying to read faces is a very good example contrary to your argument with us being unable to bridge that gap in understanding by our own basic neurology. It is part of why you see human faces in things like clouds. The human face isn't there at all it's just your brain really is that powerfully wired to be looking for it. That frog for example is meant to look sad. It is more likely either relaxed or possibly even keenly interested in something out of frame. One of the only non-ape species that has distinct human like facial expressions is dogs and that's just because we've selectively bred them to be that way over however many untold thousands of generations. You're also forgetting the degree to which other species communicate primarily by acoustic and olfactory means. It's simply that humans are an incredibly visual oriented species that can't even detect the full vocal ranges or chemical signatures that others can.

>>11569
I agree, but it's interesting that there's still SOME mutual comprehension between species.

Birds don't have much in terms of facial expression, but it's amazing how much you can gather just from body language.

I wish to one day have a pet. I don't know why, but I can relate to animals more than I can to humans. at least they are honest.

>>11575

>it's interesting that there's still SOME mutual comprehension between species

We are all reptiloids after all.

>>11511

>>11548

>Which in general is a pretty good summation of where this thread immediately headed and why people hate furry shit, because it is never about "anthro animals" and mythology it is always about fucked up fetishes. I wasn't even going to suggest it being linked to bestiality but well there you go.

For fuck sake, Inever wanted to go in this direction, I never wanted this thread be like there, why are you started just insulting me and start there political shitpost, forcing me to type this answers, which in result only made you this conclusion?

You fucking baiting me and then kicking by legs while a lying on the ground. You know what I wanted to disscus? I wanted to disscus errors in building science fiction errors, I wanted to disscus interesting indeas on this case in fantasy, like types of khajiit that born different species depend of moons when they borned in old elder scrolls lore, I wanted to disscus body types and most logical and organic way to build realistic creature like that etc. etc. etc. but not - you started shitposting with sage, insulting me at maximum and intentionally dumbed down disscution to this to then say "ha ha I know thread will be like that".

>I would say raping an animal is the purest form of animal abuse there is.

If you call any sex rape - you are retard. No, I know you are retard by default from video games thread, but still.
At first, it may be news for you - but animals fuck in nature and always fucks when have opportunity and want it. They brainesly do it permanetly - often without asking any questions to the parthner, it be miracle for you, but almost all high organic species like that, and some animals can fuck other species in nature just because.
At second, humans "abuse" animals like they want - forcing animals to live with them, breeding ugly breeds that even can not live by itself in nature, train them, forcing to do different things they don't want for fun or for military. KILLING THEM AND FUCKING EAT. And than there still find mentally retarded like you who things that people who accuratley build relationships with their animals and have physical contact by mutual agreement when animl want it too - as "abuse".
At third - I'am not medival pesant with 65iq to belive in christian god and it's outdated by 2000 years morale of late roman emire.

>I already explicitly hated that some games like Master of Orion did this even as a kid.

It's not me, it is you who have mental issues. Something in your brain damaged when you was kid and you become ignorant idiot with patalogical hate to ideas you don't understand.

For fucks sake, just hide this thread if even my existance make you go nuts and act like an asshole.

>>11580
And this is just 4kanker tier post. Even name of this webm is something I can imagine post 4chan 14 year old boy in like 2010 when there was maximum hate for this thematic just for "meme" purpose.
And I know this video and this is lame, I can post mme shit like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGXq28XL7Q and same way call it like "yiff in gell X---DDDD"

>>11557
I don't calle it degenerate or a "sin" - this all just opinion of society. And society can change their opinion every day if they have reasons for. Politicans and rich people so sucsessfull because they not follow, but manipulating society. I don't advise you to manipulate people of cource, but you may just not care, and place your opinions and internal feelings above opinions of society - and I talk not even about furry stuff or anything like that, but in general it is way to go for a person. However of cource it is your decidios what to do with yourself, I only tell how I personally deal with it.

>>11585

>I don't calle it degenerate or a "sin" - this all just opinion of society. And society can change their opinion every day if they have reasons for.

The ebb and flow of public opinion should have no place upon what one personally considers moral. Morality isn't to be held hostage by shifts in societal conduct, but should come from a set of rules and a priori conditions. Morality is first and foremost a personal guideline set to evaluate actions.

>>11587
Yeah. But often there a closed circle when person build his values basing only on social opinion. But if there a situation where you have opinion of society that contradict your internal feel of value, you should sit and think about it logically before making a decision what to choose - society opinion or personal, because forcing yorself to change your internal feelings often can lead to more big internal psyhological problems.

>>11534
I agree but as you can see, the thread just doesnt work out.

I enjoy the meta conversation though.

>>11575
Watch this video of chimps reacting to music, I love to see them dance.

https://youtu.be/OxAjXtJf5AE

>>11600

>shitpost thread with one-liner pol-tier insults
>the thread just doesnt work out

Yeah, whatever.

On topic:
I love when authors and artists do some time of more "werefolf" anatomy if you know what I mean. When body structure itself anthropomorphic but still have animal elements. Such creatures for me looks way more organic. However most people and from furries actually like more just general human body with animal head, but for me it looks not that great and boring.
Here on pictures examples:
-Worgen model from worold of warcraft before Cataclysm add-on - a bit cartoonish like all wow models but I think you get the idea
-Worgen model when they become playable race. Structure still presented, but way muscules combined with short wool add too much athro elements - it for some reason reminded me this meme video https://youtu.be/Z4HA-DHNHv4
-but even worse female worgen model that much more close to just "human with doggo heda". Well, at least they kept this animal legs and claws but it is clear that it was aimed for more grneral people and furry audience and made something that look "beautiful" for averege person instead of making something interesting. I know that low sexual dimorphism like in real canidae is too much for asking but they can at least make body structure that closer to male version.

>>11639
Also forgot to show clear example of of case when just human with doggo head. From such style I was more than okay with anubis army from mummy 2 movie - at least in dynamic they looked decent but need to rewatch it, seen this movie too long time ago.

>>11640
>>11639
Very context relevant

>>11661
It just stupid. Attach random webm with meme like "data say art of picard is shit X---DDD" to post with this one line comment that not add anything concretic besides of pointing on webm that out of context. You may just post "u is shit" without anything add to it and nothing changed.

If you have something to say on actual topic, some argumenrs or opinions on desighn, art or other statements, make a proper post instead of this lame excuse for insult.

Your post is most clear example of "shitposting" and I wonder should I report you so you will stop act like a baby and trashy my thread.

>>11548
Before Moses and his autist gang were repelled from Egypt because of suffering from an infectious disease the semitic tribes of Palestine lived in peace - everyone had sex with whomever they wanted and ate whatever they wanted. They were worshipping mighty cow-gods and celebrating hilarious parties, everyone had a great time until the jews came. Quickly Moses established a totalitarian theocratic state, the tribesmen had to leave their cow-gods who have always been good to them and now submit to the one and only god of the sun and desert JHW who was now the god of everything and everyone. I mean, imagine someone being so autistic that he would want everyone to believe in his god only. As the jews had no idea how to justify their madness they began writing a great manifesto, stolen together from whatever religion they could find.
Fast forward. Romans brought peace and high living-standards to Israel but the jews can't eat at the same table as heathens who eat filthy pigs, the sun god hated pigs. So a public outrage is starting to begin and once again jews are losing their minds, being a pain in the ass to the romans, trying to overthrow them (think of Bar-Kochba, son of the stars or the hilarious history of Flavius Josephus, who made his fellow jews kys themselves because he told them they should rather die than end up in roman hands but he rigged the lottery do he could stay alive as the only one and work as a historian for the romans) or assasinating them in terroristic acts like the zealots and sicarians did.
Finally the non-matrimonial son of a roman soldier and a jewish girl decided to end jewish suffering in a new way: after finishing torah school he spend a year in egypt to become a magician. As the jews did not practice any magic, some of them thought he was the salved messiah while others said he was just a magician. This was when shit really went downhill - now they were not only having a war with the romans but also a war against their own people...

In the next episode: Apostle Paul trying to escape from the non-salved jews from a town by lettig himself down by a rope while sitting in a basket. Salved jews and non-salved jews now declare that they aren't one people anymore. Non-salved jews still don't want to dine together with pig-eating heathens, but salved jews declare it's OK so heathens convert to salved jews which ultimately leads to the heathens taking over and the last ethnic salved jews living lonely lofes in small mountain villages. Salved heathens live in peace while they are still chased by non-salved jews but as soon as they settle down, once again inner conflict arises: the new enemy is called Marcion...

>>11548

Now don't take this post >>11666 seriously please, I was just constructing an alternative jewish/christian history (if it's not obvious already). At least the claims that Jesus was a magician (Celsus) and that Moses and his followers were repelled because of infectious disease (Manetho) did actually exist back then. So I mixed up a lot of stuff just for the pure fun of it. Just making that clear before you guys think I completely lost my mind.

>>11663
You are a furry. Which fine whatever but then you basically start a thread to attract furries and do that whole piss on my leg and tell me it's raining thing of acting like this has nothing to do with sex. Even though your very content has pretty much nothing to do with real mythology or stuff like werewolves, and instead you start the thread with a horse's ass. The brick at least has been hard at work attempting to salvage the thread while you keep edging it closer with rat tits and so on to what you really seem to want which is driving the thread into yiffing. You know, I never understood why that seriously massive blemish of the weird snake with tits thing was allowed into an otherwise solid game of XCOM2, and now that I am actually forced to dwell on it by this post I can see explicitly what kind of retarded furry sexual domination fantasy that whole stupid thing is. I could more fully extrapolate by this post, or I could've simply shared a webm I found elsewhere that I thought was funny because it immediately reminded me of your thread, which I had largely been ignoring otherwise. I also refuse to bump furshit to the top of a generally slower board.

>>11666
I was going to make some remark about pork flesh giving us parasites (hence pop shelf on the loo to check for worms) and other diseases but you know what, I know that you probably didn't even plan on that post number, and likely aren't even aware that that sequence of numbers specifically means image to lord of false illumination/master of imperfection. So if you want to talk about magics, well, there's also that.

>>11670
I don't know should I answer this or better ignore, because you answer will be just more hate, sage, insults with no sense. This thread already have enough of all of this, and considering that instead of just hide this thread if you have so much frustration about it.

>Which fine whatever but then you basically start a thread to attract furries

What? I didn't see any "furries" on this board and don't consider myself as one. I can only guess what in your wide imagination, which replaced for you reality in this conversation, "furry" means but I don't have any "costume", I don't go in "conversations" and don't part of "community". Not this thematic as whole, not even sexualisation fetish can be attracted in same community and with same stereotypes even thought both "furris" and people like you who trying to search an excuse for their insults trying to convince people in that.

>has nothing to do with sex

People generally for some reason too obsessed with sex. One forcing general sexualisation of everything in media and society to the part that after years of sexual revolution it already become default part of our society to level it changed our general behaivor, and bad it or good not mine or yours concern. And other people trying to find sex in all places whenever they go, even thought there was no intention of doing it. I have sexual fetish of anthropomorphic creatures, and not hided it, thought this thread is clearly not about it. I not posted a single porn image and not posted about "how I want fuck something". If you think this thematic only limited to sex and trying to ignoring ovious proofs that it is not - it is your fault you placed yourself in so limited range of thinking.

And even if we imagine that besides all interesting things this thematic have and this is one of the major parts of human culture since begining, imagine that it only is a sex fetish and nothing more - gay people and a lot of other minorities legitemently fight for their rights and got them. Gay is nothing more than sexual fetish, but now you need to respect them - they have parades, communities and you will be arested if start spelling insults to them on public same fashion you spell them in this thread.

I say, you clear example that society and people in general not become more tolerant or have different thinking nowdays in 50s - just minorities who fight for they rights convince goverment and then goverment forced propoganda to people with things like "X is not bad, please not insult X". But this not give general understanding to people of reasons why X is not bad and what actually means to be tolerant or just understand other people views properly. This why nowdays we see so many minorities gropus who at annoying level trying to forcing their views - and this will not change untill general society change way of thinking by default, not just change opinions on concretic things manualy because it is too lame way of fixing problem.

>Even though your very content has pretty much nothing to do with real mythology or stuff like werewolves,

Start conversation about mythological creatures, if you want, like it is forbidden for some reason if you want to disscus. I planned to talk in this thread about centaurs and sathyrs and creation of their myths later in the thread, since it actually touching thematic of the thread.

>and instead you start the thread with a horse's ass.

If you talking about first two pics from OP post, there no sex happening and no parts of body that you will not show on public. This pictures in great way show topic I wanted to disscus and which was main thematic of my posts about body types - body structure of anthropomrphic creatures. I like idea of mixing animal parts and turning them in belivable anthropomorphic creature and in posts before I basicly said my throughts on this. This is something that in general content creators - and "furries" and serious often or ignored or placed only as secondary objective. And this picture is OP pic show one of the best examples of really good level of anthropomorphism, where creature contained a great amount of actual animal parts, same time anthropomorphic but looks very organic and consistent with itself. I easely can imagine such creature in reality. When I said it you in previous post "If you have something to say on actual topic, some argumenrs or opinions on desighn, art or other statements, make a proper post instead of this lame excuse for insult." it was answer, that if you count my examples as bad art - all of which are from videogames and movies by the way and most probably designed by people who has no any sexual obession with anthropomorphic creatures - you may continue civilised disscution on this topic and present your views to levels of anthropormophism and desighns of mixed anthro/animal parts. But instead you made another this post shifting thread from it's direction, and then will just answer that "this thread is full of bad posts and it's your fault" wich is again, most crazy example of double-thinking I ever seen.

>The brick at least has been hard at work attempting to salvage the thread while you keep edging it

What I just said previously. "shitposting me - fault is yours". If you want, you can continue sonic disscution for example, and maybe shifts to talk of desighn of anthropomorphic creatures in early disney cartoons where they still tried to find an easy artistic ways of present caracters, which is major part of history of art, but you instead continue made political and insulting posts and then blame me for that.

>rat tits and so on to what you really seem to want which is driving the thread into yiffing

At this point this statements not make me angry, but only make me laughing honestely because level of absurd they get into. You know that "tits" have all mammal creatures? And humans is not only creature who have placement of them like that? Look at this pic - https://pp.vk.me/c627719/v627719958/f465/0N7OZK9en_I.jpg and this is actual lizzard as I know and it have same placement of them as humans do. And almost every human woman on this planet have them - your mom have tits. But you not see your mom or all womans only as sexual oject? I hope not at least. Boobs is secondary sexual sign and his meaning is debatable. Adittionaly placement of them like on human is one of the general parts of "anthropomorphisation" - just human element that migrated on anthropomorphic creatures in majority of realted art and concepts, and this particular example of anthropomorphic rat from actual general media nad how you see it as "sexual object for people with fetish" even when actual society not agree with such statement is just hilarious.

>You know, I never understood why that seriously massive blemish of the weird snake with tits thing was allowed into an otherwise solid game of XCOM2

I can't describe honestely if you have actual issues or you forced this behavior just because you feel "right" about it currently. However, I can guess that you have serious hate without actual reasons judging your general behaivor on other topics. You go in topics and themes where you has no actual experience or don't know whole information to make objective conclusions. So make your conclusion from your lacked experience, of cource wrong one, and convince yourself that you by default is right and inforcing this opinion os objective when it actually wrong. With such way you will never escape from your comfort zone, and without it you can not evolve as a person.
I will not even comment this concretic episode inside XCom because there no actual reason to start arging with person who have objectivly some unresolved internal issues.

>reminded me of your thread,

You inserted "hilarious" webm with just moment where data trying to avoiding say that picard art is not great because he is still not the best artist. Without any context and even with context of what you posted in this long post - this webm has no any actual sence. I don't see any logic in it, this why I in first place asked you to make a more big post because I thought you have objective arguments on topic and on topic of actual art, but you has no and even not intended to talk on topic.

>which I had largely been ignoring otherwise

This thrad is full of your shitpost with sage almost from start. I see how you "ignoring" it - you spread your anger with massive low-effort posts.

>I also refuse to bump furshit to the top of a generally slower board.

And your attitude to this thread and to overall posts in general show not that this thread is "furshit", but you as actual person and your small horizon beyond which you absoluetly can not learn or understand anything.

>>11690

>Adittionaly placement of them like on human is one of the general parts of "anthropomorphisation"

Western artists just don't know how to anthropomorphise right.

>>11711
Well this is example of "cartoonish" aproach hovever very funny and memorable desighn of character indeed.
This reminds me of early disney cartoon where animals shifting from normal to anthro constantly. Like horse hoofs is actually shoes and cow even when walking on two legs have udder on bottom (early diseny had vired love for cow tits) and it is really hilarious thing.

Tbh why hide on spoiler picture from childrens cartoon lol?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNCTvXpXtMw
Ha-ha, sorry for kind of low effort post, but this is really funny. Glad that I at least can draw better than this paitings. Indeed, art of america 1988 :D

>>11848
Hm,why it sage sometimes threads when I don't intended to do so? I may guess it connects to issues with dollchan on EC, same like crossed out text same time appearing as spoiler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdnssCuw-SM

Nice arwing video of antho-beaver girl from some company logo
Adittionaly this is basic clip studio paint/Manga studio drawing tutorial video for beginners in this program. This program really nice for driving I may say, so maybe someone will be interested in this.

On caricatures russia often portraited as bear. I like style of old XIX centuary ones, in this old imperic-style niform, where all nations presented as humans and russia as such bear, it is kinda cute. I'd like to be such bear, maybe with a little bit different proportions, don't know why people trought it would be offensive to present enemy as bear.

Nothing insteresting, just kind of illustration to traditional tale that I find veru cute. Dunno if it author made kolobok with this memetic face or someone photoshopped it, but I very like foxy, she is very cute.

>>13048

>Dunno if it author made kolobok with this memetic face or someone photoshopped it

Your picture is the original. Proofs attached.

>>13056
Oh, thanks! Dunno why he done it, but okay lol.
Surprised you visit such sites as Furaffity, but I guess you other american.

>>13058
You're welcome.

>Surprised you visit such sites as Furaffity

I liked the style in >>13048 and wanted to see what else the artist had done. Looking at the Conqista gallery, I'm not that surprised by the meme face. It looks like he adds a bit of humor to a lot of his work. Here is another one I liked.

>>13069

>wanted to see what else the artist had done

Well, I guess unless you registered and changed some options, it show only SFW pictures anyway, so it say to browse.

>the meme face

By the way about Kolobok, I think you may be pretty interested in this cartoon variant of tale, it's epin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekJ7Z-A4w4I

>Here is another one I liked.

Yeah, I like this kind of simple, but yet attractive digital paiting. Altrought I not that much like desighn of mouse character on picture you posted, in general it is nice to look at.

I have examples of pictures I like in kinda-close style to this one.

>>11088

> I don't like all "furry" resourses where I been - not people that I want to talk with, not people who cares about interesting disscution, just some teenagers who jerk off on mediacore quality hentai pics.

That's pretty much 90% of the fandom these days. You'll be lucky to get a conversation even remotely approaching anything SFW let alone pencil/marker art from the 80s and 90s. Most new young furries just use the furry fandom as a means of getting porn or boyfriends leaving the majority of serious appreciation of the medium to professionals working outside of the fandom. The number of furries who straddle both professional SFW and amateur NSFW sides are relatively few.

Also there's not really much to discuss unless you want to be more specific than "oh, unlucky seven has lowpoly anthros, isn't that neat?". Conversations on this topic tend to be spontaneous and die quickly.

>>13457

>The number of furries who straddle both professional SFW and amateur NSFW sides are relatively few.

I wonder if that's due to working professionals not willing to produce nsfw art, or amateurs who do nsfw art not wanting to do more traditional sfw anthopomorphism. I could understand the former, at least once you develop a name or something, but couldn't imagine developing the skill to do quality(in terms of anatomy, compostion, lighting etc.)nsfw art, and not branching out into broader subjects. But then again it's hard to make money in art, but relatively easy to be pidgeonholed. At least some of the members on furaffinity are doing really impressive paintings that are still family-friendly. I don't know if their nsfw art is comperable since I don't have an account so only see the safe stuff like >>13270 mentioned.

This is a very good example of why we need hide thread option
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>>13468

> I wonder if that's due to working professionals not willing to produce nsfw art, or amateurs who do nsfw art not wanting to do more traditional sfw anthopomorphism. I could understand the former, at least once you develop a name or something, but couldn't imagine developing the skill to do quality(in terms of anatomy, compostion, lighting etc.)nsfw art, and not branching out into broader subjects. But then again it's hard to make money in art, but relatively easy to be pidgeonholed. At least some of the members on furaffinity are doing really impressive paintings that are still family-friendly. I don't know if their nsfw art is comperable since I don't have an account so only see the safe stuff like >>13270 mentioned.

A lot of furry artists actually do branch out but it's really hard to escape the easy money bubble that is drawing NSFW art. In the furry community porn is pretty much the only thing respected anymore outside of egotism-centric pieces like character sheets and those are really only commissioned to be used as a reference for more porn.

Artists have to eat too and the professional world is full of shitheads who want you to draw for free telling you they'll get you publicity and whatnot for art that takes you weeks to finish all the while people like togepi1125 are dming you saying they'll happily pay you $500-1000 if you draw godzilla-sized star fox and falco having sex with skyscrapers, a piece you can shit out in 3 days in between other work.

Maybe if we lived in some star-trek style utopia where artists could live comfortably and focus on SFW professional efforts this would be different but a nagging part of my brain reminds me that they would still be unpopular and unnoticed because smut artists would still be in greater demand. Libido is a difficult beast to contend with.

>>13457

>That's pretty much 90% of the fandom these days

Well, I'am pretty shure there are people that outside "fandom" - a lot people who like thematic, but don't want be part of this community or kinda is, but they seach community only for some pictures. I know a bunch of this people and was wonder if I can there, on ernstchan, find more people like that. It be really neat if there was consolidated community that can be alternative to this infamous community. Or at least good people be more open about such thing.

>Also there's not really much to discuss unless you want to be more specific than

A lot fantasy and science fiction athropomorphic animal species, different art, styles, anthro desighns and ideas - many things you can really share, talk and disscus Anthropomorphic animals is not dedicated theme - there is no concretic example, like with fandom of movies or music, since it more fetish/idea to begin with, but consider it not as "not much talk about" but as more freedom of disscutions.

>>13470

>we

5 minutes from kohl and without any kind of expansion like dollchan - and already "we", funny.

>>13468
There is examples of quality NSFW art where artist really put his soul, skill and time to make really good picture that you remember much more besides actual porn-side. At least on level of art you posted here, I can certanly say it exist. But generaly about SFW art as was answered already - to make SFW art really notable and worth general public attention in our capitalism reality, you need to draw like really awesome, and have something coll about it. Porn on other case is valuable product, often with much less standarts of quality.

But as I can say about almost anything - majorty of media is low quality, high quality media is minority everywhere. Same goes there.

>>13598
Ah crap, spoilers really broken. I wanted to spoiler 3rd picture, since while it not featuring sex or proper erotic, it have nudity elements. It is not visible on preview, so I guess no problem, but if you don't want see content like this - I warned you. First picture absoluetly safe for watch. Sorry.

>>13599
And now I don't wanted use spoilers at all. Confusing.

>>13598

> It be really neat if there was consolidated community that can be alternative to this infamous community.

You're a decade late. Burned furs came and went and nobody wanted them around. Also pretty much the only people willing to discuss furry with you at all are going to be part of the porn loving community so you have to make dealings with that. There's SFW art discussion matching some of the quality you and the other american have posted on pretty much every furry discord i've been on and it's slow but it does exist. Probably here it's going to be an exercise in futility because the general attitude of imageboard posters towards furries parallels their feelings towards jews.

>>13606
I actually like Jews. I dont like furries. This thread is an excellent example of why I dont like furfags. It wouldn't even bother me as much if I could at least sage and fucking hide the thread. Since we still dont have a hide thread option half a year later this is only going to continue posting me off but at least some are starting to have the common decency of using spoiler images although much too late. The only reason I am not being overly hostile right now is because that one Russian has redeemed himself by being an otherwise good poster and so I accept this glaring fault of his.

>defends molesting animals

>>13611
I think maybe you're just an idiot who doesn't know how to use things like ublock to hide entire elements like you could have with this thread. It's just one so how about you try that feature out instead of being yet another mouthbreathing idiot straight outta 4kanker.

>>13614
Dollchan has the option to hide threads and more.

>>13614
>>13615
I've never bothered using dollchan.

>hurrhurr if you dont like furfags you must be kanker

The American I will however be incredibly rude to. And again this thread is a pretty good example why chans universally hated furfaggotry.

>>13617

> I've never bothered using dollchan.

and now you've confirmed the idiot part.

>>13606
I not against porn or sex thematics in general, I don't like when low quality porn and meeting is basicly only things that people can talk about. I don't think that I much late because there always people like that - a lot people attracted to this things who is assburgers and estetic lovers, and it be always awesome to find more people like this.

>>13617
You are absolute dumb, ignorant degenerate and kohlchan spammer who saging and shitposting all ower the board. I wonder how you not banned yet.

From another thread:

>I can try protest about public view on zoophilia trought and fact that this is not abusing or something horrible like people trought, but I guess nobody now will ever listen me a bit, so better wait better times for such talks.

I figured I might as well reply here since I was the one who first mentioned it. To clear any confusion, I didn't meant it as a snide remark or a personal attack towards you. If anything, it was meant to be a simple put down after a compliment.

But while on topic, I might give in my two cents on the topic at hand, I find the concept of zoophilia revolting, but for the sake of honesty I can say that I genuinely don't care what it is you are attracted to. I don't know what would drive anyone to really care about what some person on the other side of the continent masturbates to, even more so if it is merely a fetishism of animals.

In online communities, however, I genuinely hate furries. For some reason that I find inexplicable, there are some groups which model their entire personality and online presence around their sexual deviance. Furries seem to be the group that is by far the most guilty of this. I would really like to understand what causes this, but I don't know.

Ironically enough, I enjoy bullfighting.

>>13626
Because I've been here and furry threads are and were always shit.

>ignorant degenerate

Coming from a furry, that's priceless. Like I said I only don't give you crap because your posting outside of furfaggotry is good and respectable.

>>13619
considered you're spicing your browser with russian code that scans every website you're visting I wouldn't be so quick to cast your blame.

>>13632

> Like I said I only don't give you crap because your posting outside of furfaggotry

I post where I want and it is not you who will order me what to do. Belorussian or Portugal poster assumed that you have autism, and I assume it is you who constantly shitposting around board with one liner news, shitty webms and creating new threads every day. I don't know what kind of actual mental problems do you have, but I think you had enough time to undrestand how not act like asshole and not shitpost, but you did not so. Fuck off from here, and better from this board forever, I don't know why you still around here, since your place clearly on kohlchan or other board, full of teenagers with similar issues.

>>13633
Well, this is turbo conspiracy theroy. Quick, delete all connection to internet, thy spy on you! And make yourself a hat from tin foil, or they will read your brain from goverment satellites.
I really confusing how people for last like... 7? or 8? years post on boards and don't have this or similar extension, which provide so many usefull functions without which I feel even uncomfortable to properly post.

>>13629

>In online communities, however, I genuinely hate furries. For some reason that I find inexplicable, there are some groups which model their entire personality and online presence around their sexual deviance. Furries seem to be the group that is by far the most guilty of this.

You can read post from this threads, even some last one with disscution with good american posters. In short - since this is not even a fetish, but group of fetishes that can be merged in kinda one sometimes, and more than that, outside sexual stuff antropomorphic animals just part of human culture in general from ancienct times to most modern age, I can't see a real possible way to actually combine all people who like this thematic one way or another in some sort of "community". It like here - all people who like oranges, from this day all people who like oranges sould be in orange lovers comunity! And this community so loud that even if there other people who like oranges - they automaticly in eyes of society have all stereotypes that presented in this metioned community. I can't really describe better in short, so it is kinda like this. All stereotypes about this comes from this "community", which is union of wierd teenagers who go on shitty meetings, wear terrible suits and only they can make - fap on low level quality porn and fuck each other, and draw mediacore quality pictures, pornographic of cource, and basicly this group of people represents all "furries" (I even don't like this word in general tbh, since which reputation it get) in eyes of majority of people, since other people who loves it is not on any kind of community and don't talk much about his interests otside of it. Crap, even people inside this community who much less stereotypical than general assumptions of cource don't heared at all. And people like this bad saging american shitposter and other people from 4cancer and people like them using this lack of knowlage of majority of people and general negatve to just torment, annoy, provoke furries and all other people who like antropomorphic animals all over the internet, trying to lower them even more in eyes of general audience.

They do it because they just want shitpost and this is teenagers who spread hate and shit - you know about all this "kek" movments. However, they can not do it publically on gay people and jews - because they already known by majority of people and protected by modern morale and goverment, while furries generaly easy taget for them.

>Ironically enough, I enjoy bullfighting.

This actually looks savage and this is actual abuse of animals, like most clear example. I generally not support this kind of entertaiment that much, lol. This is kind of fun that person who like this can have negativity about zoophilia, where actual zoophils (not zooabusers) most oftean think more about animals, than about themselfs, do everything in way how not hurt anyone eve a bit.

>>13651

>Well, this is turbo conspiracy theroy. Quick, delete all connection to internet, thy spy on you! And make yourself a hat from tin foil, or they will read your brain from goverment satellites.
>I really confusing how people for last like... 7? or 8? years post on boards and don't have this or similar extension, which provide so many usefull functions without which I feel even uncomfortable to properly post.

Different Ernst here; let me share a bit of insider perspective: The fact that people will always chose convenience over anything (eg. security), as you have promptly demonstrated with

>really confusing how people [...] post on boards and don't have this or similar extension, which provide so many usefull functions

is our greatest weapon for undermining security. The term "spyware" is a bit of a bad case: It does not really fit because something mostly different from spying is happening in the background, but it essentially serves the same purpose. But it is a common theme to re-use a word that only partially fits, thus creating ambiguity and uncertainty on both sides, which always benefits those who try to undermine your security and privacy.

The gist is: Using any software hosted by someone else was a theoretical security risk 20 years ago; today it is almost definitely a security breach because it has simply become normal and accepted to "spy" on everyone using your services, which results in people half-knowingly being spied upon but not consciously agreeing to being spied upon. Your reaction is one part of what makes "spying" (aka. survaillance) so damn easy today.

... and to contribute something to this thread and not just be off-topic: The Vivisector in OP looks a lot like the Wolfen from Confrontration (board game miniatures) - is it related?

>>13653
Well, I can say about dollchan that it is done for years but small group of assburgers who just making this simple instrument for better imageboard usage. I heavely doubt that this is some kind of really thing that spy on you and sent data somewhere, this is just cute little programm done by little team. It was really neat and helpfull when for example during most mass shtorms of payed pootine posters it automaticly hide or remove this cloned political threads by bots. And it really helped to hide namefags, spammers and tripcode posters in some thematics. And I think people who have account on google, using youtube, have GOG, Steam, Origin, Chrome, uPlay - any programs like this and same time don't run it from 50 proxies, should not worry about things like dollchan.

>The Vivisector in OP looks a lot like the Wolfen from Confrontration (board game miniatures) - is it related?

Hmm, I don't think so. Vivisector is some b-category FPS game from mid-00s by small ukrainian studio, who is also responsible for neat games with awesome concepts like Chasm: The Rift, and probably even more famous outside post-USSR Cryostasis: Sleep of Reason

One of main vivisector features was segmented visual damage - like you shoot and cetain parts of body destroyed, muscules and flesh fall of from bones which at 2005 was probably one of the most detailed gore system, which was ironically censured in some versions.

By plot it more follow variation of Island of Doctor Moreau plot, which you can hint even from name of the game.

>>13653
Pretty much this. And while I am sure whichever Ivan Ivanovich Slavonov who coded it was a reputable character despite being on an internet shithole, it always struck me as a needless added security hole when my security is already shit and besides which I literally dont even use Google so why in fuck would I intentionally download some garbage for no other reason than to hide individual posters when most chans simply had a hide thread feature? I was horrified to find that some Gamesworkship phoneshit wanted access to my contacts and ability to male calls. Shit like this is why something like 40% of all calls made now are spoofed bullshit. I'd rather avoid any added bullshit and strongly deeply resent every single step at invading my privacy. No, I dont give a shit if its dollchan or Gamesworkshop, unless I am absolutely forced to I'm not going to use it especially when it would be solved by a "hide thread" feature.

>>13656
Honestely, you have hole in heda, not in your security. I really wonder, what bullshit you have in your mind and how you actually live. It is rarely when you can meet so crazy person. I no wonder if you wearing tin foil costume, blame international covered goverment for """degeneracy""" and together with your other friends (if you have any) from "kekistan movment" fighting across internet with anime, furries, gommunists, gay and sjw, considering yourself as proud protector of "traditional values", same time jerking off on trap webms and playing korean video games on chienese-builded computer and smartphone.

And you can't even install most simple browser extensions for most simple tasks and not using most basic services like google, in fear of all your valuable data (porn folders and steam account) will fall into hands of the enemy - media corporations and goverment, so you unable even properly use internet and hide single thread on board, also having multiple complexes of inferiority and spread all this iternal problems with lines of rage on people who more happy than you because they not hide their prefferences and not follow idiotic political and conspiracy views.

>>13657
Are you okay with someone opening all your mail and reading it before you get it? Recording every phone call you make? You don't owe those people your data. It's yours, and he's completely in the right to want to have it remain private. Whether it's compromising information or not is irrelevant.

And it's also not that strange to not use the botnet. I have never used it, not even on original KC. I guess I'm also the boogeyman you make him out to be?

Besides, a native hide feature should be in there somewhere, I think I remember EC having one in the past so the work should already be done.

>>13660

>Are you okay with someone opening all your mail and reading it before you get it?

What can be privat from shitposting on imageboards tbh? It is easy to spot him even without any nicknames anyway.

>I guess I'm also the boogeyman you make him out to be?

What boogeyman? That american above just retard and not only because he not using dollchan. But in case of you - just install, try it and you will never turn it off, belive me. And all this talks about this is spy program is kind of unfunny joke.

>>13702
Well you made a whole bunch of baseless assumptions seemingly in response to not using dollchan for one. If something compromises your personal data security, even if it is just your porn folder, then it is completely acceptable to not like it, and tbh a healthy distrust of government is a good thing. Seeing them as the enemy to be kept on the tightest of all leashes is even better. Respect for privacy, even unimportant information, is not a symptom of idiocy or jealousy of others.

Honestly, I have some solidarity with low level occasional harmless shitposting because that is what OG EC/int/ was like, it didn't have the always serious all the time mentality that has come to be in vogue this year. Quit gatekeeping so hard, it is stifling to discussion sometimes.

And no, I won't download the extension because it frankly doesn't interest me. My posting experience works fine without the bloat and possible data leak. I don't go out of my way to hide everything but I don't go out of my way to hand it over neither.

>>13703

>Well you made a whole bunch of baseless assumptions seemingly in response to not using dollchan for one

This was respond for his previous posting overall, if you not seen it.

>Respect for privacy, even unimportant information, is not a symptom of idiocy or jealousy of others.

But crazy paranoia is

>Honestly, I have some solidarity with low level occasional harmless shitposting

Half of this thread is his shitposting, and outside of it I multiple times was one way or another insulted by him. What I need to responde to "you is animal raper kill yourself"?

>My posting experience works fine without the bloat and possible data leak.
Okay, okay, small programm by 2,5 dudes from imageboard that absolute majority of imaeboard users use for decade will send your data personally for pootine and your house become first target of new orbital ion canon and without it you totaly secured.

>>13704

>This was respond for his previous posting overall, if you not seen it.

I still see nothing that ties him to your 'kekistan' and such boogeymen.

>But crazy paranoia is

I don't see any crazy paranoia here. All I see is someone making accusations that someone is crazy for what are fairly reasonable concerns regarding data security with regards to modern software. I disagree with a lot of what this specific American believes, but his beliefs do follow a core logic from what I've seen of his posting. It's not in any way insane.

>Half of this thread is his shitposting, and outside of it I multiple times was one way or another insulted by him. What I need to responde to "you is animal raper kill yourself"?

And outside the thread many people have been insulted by many people, yourself included. There was no need to jump into the history thread and decry someone as /pol/ and telling them to leave for what wasn't even an inflammatory post all things considered, yet you did and you've done it on multiple occasions in a few threads. If you want to gatekeep, prepare to be gatekept back. This kind of thread hits a very old imageboard taboo, around some users who were on imageboards when that taboo was formed.

>Okay, okay, small programm by 2,5 dudes from imageboard that absolute majority of imaeboard users use for decade will send your data personally for pootine and your house become first target of new orbital ion canon and without it you totaly secured.

You know full well that it's not what I meant. The data skimming may even be minute and harmless if it exists but that doesn't mean that I must subject myself to it if I don't really feel the need to. Besides that, as I said, my browsing experience is perfectly acceptable as it is right now without bloating my browser with scripts that may not be well optimised, which is a complaint I've heard about that particular package before too.

>>13705

>This kind of thread hits a very old imageboard taboo, around some users who were on imageboards when that taboo was formed.

Original imageboards was japanise and a lot of original western imageboards was anime-centred. So we should change this board to anime only to follow "traditions"?

>I still see nothing that ties him to your 'kekistan' and such boogeymen.

Pol-lateKC tier posting with short posts in style "you shit tie in hell" and his general posting with "some poltard random video - hey, check this it is cool!!!" enough for me to build overall view on person in range of imageboard posting at least.

>There was no need to jump into the history thread and decry someone as /pol/ and telling them to leave

I not readed all posts, but spotted hell lot of talks AfD=nazi germany, words like "modern leftists" and a lot modern political disscutions that hugely touch nazis and project it on modern world. What I need to think about it? This clearly not look like historical science. We have political "news" thread, why not post it there at least?

>If you want to gatekeep, prepare to be gatekept back.

And I answered him same manner he posting to me - not see any problems there.

>I don't see any crazy paranoia here.

And I see, since fear of this program is total absurd, I even know one of guys who behind this briefly... well I can imagine that for westernies this program came out from nowhere but for me it kind of funny. What make it is even more funny how he butthurt about he can't hide threads (even when even without hide you not need super-intelligence to just ignore what you don't like) and same time he fears like fire thais extention, that gives me opportunity, for example, hide all his posts with one click.

>>13707

>So we should change this board to anime only to follow "traditions"?

We have Erna.
We had /a/.
Why do you think EC doesn't have a special place for anime?

>>13711
No, I saying about when boards was anime-only, and all non-anime people was ashamed, When majority of threads was meme anime pics - like on many many boards in mid-late 00s

>>13707

>So we should change this board to anime only to follow "traditions"?

Using anti-anime arguments don't work so well when the other side is the kind of person with imported merchandise.
t. that kind of person

>Pol-lateKC tier posting with short posts in style "you shit tie in hell" and his general posting with "some poltard random video - hey, check this it is cool!!!" enough for me to build overall view on person in range of imageboard posting at least.

And creating a furry thread is enough for people to build an overall view on you and you've complained endlessly about it. They're just responding the way you have then I guess.

>We have political "news" thread, why not post it there at least?

Because it was made in response to another post in that thread with the subject being with regards to how modern occurrences are being likened to past ones and whether there is any validity to it. Maybe you should read all the posts before trying to shut down someone else's conversation and tell them to leave?

>I even know one of guys who behind this briefly

And I went to school with Bob Hawke.

>that gives me opportunity, for example, hide all his posts with one click.

So do it and quit moaning about it? The real butthurt I'm seeing is the 'eastie' who flys into insults to someone's sanity and political beliefs on the trigger of them not wanting to use a certain piece of software.

>>13713

>Using anti-anime arguments don't work so well when the other side is the kind of person with imported merchandise.

What? What I said about anime? I said about absoluetly mandatory of anime, when 90% of content is lame anime memes.
For me - Ernstchan actual place when all or most of 4chan, KC, Sosach cultures should be forgotten.

>And I went to school with Bob Hawke.

Pff. So if you not belive not me, and continue to arguing about internet security, in west countries where you constantly spyed on internet and can be jailed for using torrents, it is your decidion, but not crying about you has no hide or other functions if you not using dollchan. And our admin(s) is too bisy person for making 9000 functions for 2-3 people who ignore basic modern software for better using of internet.

>Because it was made in response to another post in that thread with the subject being with regards to how modern occurrences are being likened to past ones and whether there is any validity to it. Maybe you should read all the posts before trying to shut down someone else's conversation and tell them to leave?

First initial post was created this way so it attracted my attention because was metioned modern germany and projection on nazis, and in basic this theme is very subjective and hugely political, and contain many subjects that not part of historical science, but part of polemic politics. And of coure, everything that contain "is nazis will back" not going to lead to anything good. However, I'd not reacted to it any way if it was in dedicated "news" thread as I said multiple times.
If you want thematics like that, disscus politics of AfD, "how bad leftists and jews" and all kinds of things like that - fine, I'd better find different resource for history disscutions.

>And creating a furry thread is enough for people to build an overall view on you and you've complained endlessly about it. They're just responding the way you have then I guess.

The only person who did most of this post - this american - and who continue do so, actually one of people who act like this is late KC or 4chan. I'am, in all ways absoluetly against pol, pol tier posting, 4cancer and things like that - and I can only facepalm that only after a couple of months after destruction of KC, death of old EC and regular attacks from kohl I need on fingers describe why pol-teir posting is bad and why I, and I hope, all other sane people, against it.

>So do it and quit moaning about it?

90% of posts in this thread not civil disscution of people who interested in topic, but constant saging, constant insults and my posts in attemt to have dialogues. Like most of this thread is just absolute shit, and not appear there you and like WITE PALADIN join this shitpost rollecoaster and starting blame me that everything is my fault and I bad poster, same time go compleatly off-topic and continue saging this poor thread. At this point I fell like it better not hide something, but just leave this place for better sake. And actually, if you continue all this, it will be better to hide you instead.

>>13724

>90% of content is lame anime memes.

Now it's becoming plain obnoxious.
I would recommend to stop.

>>13730
Well, I not saying about anime as anime. I'll probably need to show russian dvach for 2008 for example about what it actually mean by this, but I probably lost this screenshots years ago.

Back in the end of the '80s the Hungarian tv broadcasted a tv-show: Szimat Szörény a Szupereb, basically a typical detective series... in the country of animals. The actors wore horrible dog and cat masks and maybe other animals' as well I don't remember anymore. They also released the soundtrack.
Intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooIM2x-4RPY

>>13735
But... why the masks if they don't even have gloves? It was aimed for children, teenagers or adult people? How it was in therms of plots?

>>13738
I've no idea about the target audience, as a kid I could watch it tho, there was nothing "adult" in it. I looked it up and the actors were mimes and the thing was dubbed by real actors. Plotwise the episodes were typical detective stories, catching criminals who stole briefcases full of marrowbones and such. The characters lived totally normal human lives and many animal related topic was transplanted into the human setting.
The whole series had one season with 8 episodes.

>>13739

>The whole series had one season with 8 episodes.

I see it was not very sucsesfull. Good childhood, when I was younger, from detectives I watched Poirot TV series.

And when I was even more young, I watcher pic 2-3. Don't ask what it is I not remember it almost, but I assume it was kind of "alf" style show.

Also i still searching for cartoon with young fragon main character and evil snowman as villian

>>13740
That green lizard, dinosaur thing looks just as cringy as the tv-show I posted.
Poirot ftw.

I'm little surprised Egyptian gods weren't really discussed and the totemist, shamanist side of the thing mentioned here: >>11444

>>13742

>That green lizard, dinosaur thing looks just as cringy as the tv-show I posted.

Yeah, it is really ugly thing. But funny that there was children toothbrush with very similar dude on package and it still exist, trought redesighned. I don't know if it is related.

>I'm little surprised Egyptian gods weren't really discussed and the totemist, shamanist side of the thing mentioned here

Egyptian gods is clearly show their kind of assburgenism where all was based on one scheme - even their drawings, paitings and written language was for generation based on same created standarts and styles of drawing. So if egyptian god have associated with animal - it is animal parts mixed with human parts like on scpeical scheme, no any actual artistic inspiration to do it more organic way, and it is kind of funny from historical point of view and their society and culture.

However as personal view of style, I of cource, like more modern inspiration of egyptian-style ideas, for example I really love 2nd picture and of cource, I think, most of us familiar with 3-4 pictures.

>>13740
Unfortunate design for the dinosaur thing giving it thick lips and a stupid haircut. Probably it's on some BBC craving furry's tumblr in NSFW form (at least until dec 17th)

>>13824
Egyptians were very traditional creating basically the same art for... what?... thousands of years? And fitting every theme on that style of theirs. And they doesn't seem to be too individualistic who would care for the fame what a revolutionary change of the art would gave to it's creator. Ofc they probably didn't care for the eternal damnation such person would got, similar to Echnaton.
I have to tell tho, I'm not the best person to discuss anthropomorphic animal art, my interest lies more in the beliefs people held in relation to animals. And formation of these beliefs necessarily resulted in the anthropomorphisation of animals.
Or maybe even hold not just held. People in our modern European/American setting are still holding such beliefs. Like those who read the astrology column of shitty magazines. Zodiac consists of animals (mostly with some exceptions, but the Chinese is all animals) representing certain human attributes, qualities, faults and people try to explain why certain people have these traits. These animal constellations were anthropomorphized then people are "bestialized" - if you will - by recognizing these perceived animalistic traits. For example the Leo. People see regality and pride in lions and then they think a person who born in late July, early August is bossy or proud. That's something.

>>13937

>Egyptians were very traditional creating basically the same art for... what?... thousands of years? And fitting every theme on that style of theirs. And they doesn't seem to be too individualistic who would care for the fame what a revolutionary change of the art would gave to it's creator. Ofc they probably didn't care for the eternal damnation such person would got, similar to Echnaton.

For egyptians religion, wrighting system and art was very connected. It was tradition and same time science. All art was drawed upon dedicated canons that very slowely change, but overall was stable for most of egyptian history. Basicly, they language is even more simlified art. And their gods, yes, basicly it is like language symbol. A god(person) that associated with crocodile will have Human body, Crocodile head, so anybody can read this picture as "god that assotiated with crocodile".
So it not actual anthromorphicsm, this is more like wrighting system where parts of "hieroglyph" is parts of drawed picture

>I have to tell tho, I'm not the best person to discuss anthropomorphic animal art, my interest lies more in the beliefs people held in relation to animals. And formation of these beliefs necessarily resulted in the anthropomorphisation of animals.

I hear actual case, that in some time in europe was some belifs that on far east there is antropomorphic cat people. Inerestengly enough, in east belived that in far west there are such people. I seen documentary about it long ago. Can someone remind me this documentary or show more infor about this cultural fenomen?

>Or maybe even hold not just held. People in our modern European/American setting are still holding such beliefs. Like those who read the astrology column of shitty magazines. Zodiac consists of animals (mostly with some exceptions, but the Chinese is all animals) representing certain human attributes, qualities, faults and people try to explain why certain people have these traits. These animal constellations were anthropomorphized then people are "bestialized" - if you will - by recognizing these perceived animalistic traits. For example the Leo. People see regality and pride in lions and then they think a person who born in late July, early August is bossy or proud. That's something.

Zodiac is something nowdays belive only eldery-midage woman or people who belive in ayyliens in their backyard :D But some Zodiac simbols actually show limited nature of human imagination: like this new animal, Kozerog or Capricorn - a goat thing with fish tail. How original. And you often can see such creatures from ones created by human imagination - Eagle with lion back, snake with bat wings, rabbit with deer horns etc. It was often when espessialy in medival they dust taked some parts of animals and mixed them together most lazy way and you got new "mystical animal".

And there we have example how NOT to do antropomorphic character.
It will be Sony movie, what do you expected lol

The only good kind of Anthropomorphic animals.

>>14605
This not and animals. This is not humans, but not animals too.
Tbh, are you new on EC?

>>14605
It still blows my mind a bit that they somehow managed to stumble onto a winning formula as entertaining as Kemono Frens was with such a low budget and awful animation. Fuck the way the studio for shafted the team behind it though. That was incredibly scummy.

>>14606
Humans are animals.

>>14609
Please, if you new, on EC better do more big, non one-lier posts. This this Slow board where we at least trying to have maximum quality of posting we can offer. There not much people around and this - and all other threads there a live for weeks and months.
I see you like anime, I like some anime pictures too, but it always better more or less stick to actual thematics of every thread and make bigger posts with some actual thoughts, ideas and not just posting some pictures and add a couple of words to it.
This board - not memetic rollecoaster and not speedy chat. Imagine it like all jokes about "assburgers" combined in serious manner. There we unironically trying to generate and provide disscutions, think while making new poststs, and put patience to write something that people will read for weeks while thread and disscutions exist. We also in many ways opposit to "KC" culture.

https://youtu.be/pyR-8Fcbf48

Kind of missed it but some dude won cybersportsman of the year and appeared in fursuit. Don't know if it kind of good thing or cringe one. Well if I won such award I'd probably appeared in better suit lol

>>14727
It's a cringe thing, it can only be a cringe thing...

>>14745
Why? It not bad to cover your face and personality in public if you want do this. If I was kind of "gamer" person it is understandable. You have memorable public apperance but your real person is hidden, many people do things like that. Like that dj or something, dead mouse or how he was called.

>>14754
Because he is in a fursuit... It's not the fact that he is covering his face but the fact that he is wearing something so ridiculous and creepy.

>>14727
What a faggot.

>Sonic

God, it's horrible how this little blue hedgehog gathers degenerates of all kinds.
>>14754
It makes everyone remember him as a faggot. It doesn't seem he was against that though.

>>14755

>Because he is in a fursuit... It's not the fact that he is covering his face but the fact that he is wearing something so ridiculous and creepy.

Pff. 99% of what human wearing can be described as that. From ridiculous fashion of ancient tribes with rings on neck, in nose, everywhere, to XVII-XVIII centuary wigs, dress and hell lot of white powder with plumbum. Modern fashion I not even comment - but this is what we are. Listening moren "morale authorities" who claim everything "degeneracy" - we all should wear grey prison death camp robes with personal number on back.
And same kind of stuff wear sports team support mascots and guys who entertain people in malls for decades - and nobody calling it ridiculous. My only complain that I find this things cartoony and kind of cheap looking (even trought they are expensive), but for this kind of GAMING SHOW and GAMER STYLE it actually fits pretty well, which is funny.
Thing when you covering yourself with costume is detect of that you don't like how you look. And honestely, majority of mankind don't like how they look - they just too shy to accept this and fooling themselfs on public that they "fine", and trying to search a positive respond from other people about their look, which helps them hide their inferiority complex. And when person instead of denying just accepting it and taking look that he like - and I think he like how he look in this suit - and additionally not care about what people around think about it, this actually step forward for our society that full of angry unsatisfied people who trying to follow some socially accepted fashion to hide their shame of themselfs.

>>14756

>God, it's horrible how this little blue hedgehog gathers degenerates of all kinds.

Don't know what degeneracy it gathered, since it same cliche sony movie they do for decades with "poor 3d character model from cartoon appeared in out world". Alvin and the chipmunks - like five movies, a couple of "the smurfs" movies, woody movie, also about this squitell and moose from cold war propoganda cartoon - I can't remember all of them actually. With this movie anounce I laughed that at first desighn of sonic is kind of very bad and they did thing that for last 10 years appering "direct to dvd", this movie feels like something straight out of 2006.

>It makes everyone remember him as a faggot. It doesn't seem he was against that though.

Well, all this prison-camp culture with "true man" and "faggots" is something that almost died publically in the west. I don't think that what he did can count as "shame" just because I think he gained more popularity with this, than shame. I find this a little bit cringey just because again in eyes of general public it again represent all people who love anthro animals, even who not count themselfs as furry, and I find overall this "gayming festivals" as cringey events made by big corporations filled with public of screaming fanboys.

>>14758
Wearing a wig is infinitely less embarrassing and creepy than wearing a fur suit.

Mascots are Mascots, of course they dress like that. It's still creepy but they are doing it to entertain children.

>>14759
For you it's embarrassing, for others people it is awesome. This is dosen't matter at all. What really matter - enjoying he his look or not. If he like himself how he look, if he had fun wearing it and appear at public like that - who are we to judge him. As I said, it 100 times better than hide it in yourself and be ""normal"" at public just because "oh no society will judge me!!!". Even worse people who trying to judge themselfs and trying to convert their mind and personalities just to be like society he belongs to. You seen movie "american beauty"? Well one of characters there and ending is great example of what I'am talking about.
My problem with that - that people building "societies" and every thematic. And furry is not exeptions. Instead of be just griup of fetishes that kinda combined by people because their overall similarity, some people building some sort of subculture around that. "Oh yeah, I'am furry becahse I going to fests, wearing suit and do all kind of things other furries do" - now this is something really sad, that attract people just because they want some kind of social group to associate themselfs with. And also this affect all people who like anthropomorphic animals, since overall averege people judge based on "society" or "sub culture" and nobody care that most loud part of it is actual minority. But thing is, since overall this thematic is far from basic knowlege of society, this is kind of neccecery evil. And improving/popularisation overall ""furry"" thematic in eyes of society is first step on long road to get rid of this stereotypes for people who love thematic, but don't want be associated with "furry", same as it happening nowdays with gay people who much less nowdays associated with extravagant woman-like people with rainbow flags.

And historical fashion I metioned in post was directly oftent very dangerous to health. And people damaged their health just to "look cool" on public, so to be accepted by society, which is turbo dumb.

>>14766
Sure, but you're always taking a bet when you are gay or wear a fursuit in public that a mentally ill muslim or internet nazi won't kill you out of sheer butthurt. Is it really worth it when you consider that?

>>14769
Chanses of this on west is minimal. Espessialy considering third world counties. I think walking across city in fursuit with rainbow flag in USA is 1000 times safer that just walking across city in bolivia. From this awards passed some time and I thing this dude is perfectly fine.

>>14758

>Pff. 99% of what human wearing can be described as that. From ridiculous fashion of ancient tribes with rings on neck, in nose, everywhere, to XVII-XVIII centuary wigs, dress and hell lot of white powder with plumbum. Modern fashion I not even comment - but this is what we are.

All you're really saying here is that fashions change over time, this really bears no relevance in regards to criticizing a person's choice of outfit.

>And same kind of stuff wear sports team support mascots and guys who entertain people in malls for decades - and nobody calling it ridiculous. My only complain that I find this things cartoony and kind of cheap looking (even trought they are expensive), but for this kind of GAMING SHOW and GAMER STYLE it actually fits pretty well, which is funny.

Are you comparing working as a mascot to wearing a fursuit? The two really are pretty different, whereas the first is someone who got into a pretty shitty job, one meant to entertain children and the other is just a person dressing up as his sexual fetish.
It's obvious that the only reason why you would even entertain this bizarre idea is because you are a furfag yourself. You attempt to paint your post as simple having disdain for societal norms, but that obviously isn't the reason why people wear these fursuits. It isn't some edgy counterculture movement based on subverting notions of normality, it's gear related to a sexual fetish.

>For you it's embarrassing, for others people it is awesome. This is dosen't matter at all. What really matter - enjoying he his look or not. [...] Even worse people who trying to judge themselfs and trying to convert their mind and personalities just to be like society he belongs to.

Stop pretending. You know full well it has nothing to do with you and the person in the video being some avantgarde intelligentsyia who can see through the simple minded moral busy bodies attempting to enforce a way of behaving because they are just clueless moralistic hardliners.
It has entirely to do with you being a part of the same fetish community as the person in the video. You are dressing up based on your sexual fetish. It is no different to wearing BDSM gear and latex suits around, scoffing and sneering with a sense of superiority at anyone who thinks you look like an infantile pervert.

>But thing is, since overall this thematic is far from basic knowlege of society, this is kind of neccecery evil. And improving/popularisation overall ""furry"" thematic in eyes of society is first step on long road to get rid of this stereotypes for people who love thematic, but don't want be associated with "furry", same as it happening nowdays with gay people who much less nowdays associated with extravagant woman-like people with rainbow flags.

If you want to beat off to cartoon animals, have sex with other men in mascot outfits or rape animals to indulge yourself in your sexual fantasies, that is your personal prerogative. Don't pretend it's some moral crusade of smashing societal norms to have animal fuckers be embraced as they parade around in fetish gear.

Just delete this thread

>>14774

>whereas the first is someone who got into a pretty shitty job, one meant to entertain children and the other is just a person dressing up as his sexual fetish

D-g save us

>>14774

>All you're really saying here is that fashions change over time, this really bears no relevance in regards to criticizing a person's choice of outfit.

Most of fashion looks bizarre, espessialy ones that you look on historical one. A lot of fashion damaged even health and all of this was made just because current society view on what is right and what is beauty. I don't like modern fashion - it looks most times very meh. And a lot of people who follow this fashion think this too but still continue following it just because they need social approval.
Wearing something just because you want to, not society is actual step forward from this, and for you he looks wierd just because social disaproval, not his actual look, since as again said, a lot of mainstream fashion was way more ridiculous than that and even directly damaged health.

>Are you comparing working as a mascot to wearing a fursuit? The two really are pretty different,

Sooo different that they look same. More than that, blue wolf from hokkey team support suit was ordered in some fursuit company.

>other is just a person dressing up as his sexual fetish.

Most of fashion builed around beuty and sexuality, surprise surprise. Not even clothes - human body standarts most often exept heath acutally buileded around "how sexy you are". And I don't see on him any dildos or something like this - so there nothing socially unacceptable. Again, if he like how he look and it is aesthetically pleasing for him - why not.

>It's obvious that the only reason why you would even entertain this bizarre idea is because you are a furfag yourself.

Who said that he entertained me? He looks kind of funny and it is will be better for me if furries will become more socially acceptable, even trought I don't part of "community" and don't like even idea of fetish-based "subculture" how I described in my previous post, but I not like his suit, I not like such gaming shows and all of this for normies and bydlo anyway, I just positively counting his act from perspective if problems of modern society and where it need to move.

>You attempt to paint your post as simple having disdain for societal norms, but that obviously isn't the reason why people wear these fursuits. It isn't some edgy counterculture movement based on subverting notions of normality, it's gear related to a sexual fetish.

[sarcasm]Yeah and also they want conquer all over the world and kill THE WHITE MAN and all this created by jews and al-quida[/sarcasm]
I described furries as "community" many times in this threads and my relation to them but of cource you don't read and don't care. Humans have natural feel for be part of some society and have some support around. There is a number of people of cource who accept some ideas just to become part of society but eeh... currently furry isn't something that very much popular as mainstream fashion, where majority is in reality was forced to become one of them - it actually, opposite - many people who like thematic don't want associate with them. And you has no any evidences that this guy weared it just because some fashion, not because he really liked it.

>it's gear related to a sexual fetish.

It is not only it and even if it was only it there nothing bad in this.

>Stop pretending.

I behaivor totally open - I never pretend. I say what I like, I say what I think. In polite form most iften and trying to describe to others why I think like I think in big posts, because thing I think is not forced fashion for me but something I come up myself.

>intelligentsyia

This word is forgotten meme for like 30 years. When I hearing it I imagining or Alexander Dem'yanenko in role of Shurik, or some 70s propoganda.

>who can see through the simple minded moral busy bodies attempting to enforce a way of behaving because they are just clueless moralistic hardliners.

He is not ultra-smart or breaker of the world, but he weared what he liked and wanted, trought he know reaction of it from society will be mixed and many people will put shame on him. However he was not shy and not cared about this opinions, which for normies already an achivment.

>It is no different to wearing BDSM gear and latex suits around, scoffing and sneering with a sense of superiority at

Again, I not seen on him any dildos or something like this. This is not an entierly sexual fetish, but also different standarts of beauty. There people which fetish is buisness suits and they wearing them because this too. Ir uniform. So we should ban this clothes? More than that, I can guess many people who wear mascot suits are furries. Now how you can distinquish dude who appeared on gaming fest in suit which may be because his fetish ir maybe because his standart of beauty, and furry who wearing same suit and working as mascot?

>anyone who thinks you look like an infantile pervert.

In this country everyone who was not conscript in shitty army, who not drink vodka and shitty beer with bydlo company of middle age alchogolics, who not working on factory for 200$/month is "infantile pervert". So what? I should start calling you "gay sissy from gayrope we will kill you by our strong nukes"?

If you not care what other people think about how you look, why worry?

>If you want to beat off to cartoon animals,

I don't really have sexual addiction to cartoon ones, thanks.

>have sex with other men in mascot outfits

I never did this too.

>or rape animals

I against violence too

>to indulge yourself in your sexual fantasies,

Sorry that I not included in your fantasies about perfect society, but it is not only your opinion.

>that is your personal prerogative.

Oh, look, it is "Don't ask, don't tell" all over again. Want to dissapoint you, even fucking each other in most shitty suits or appearing in suits publically is not illegal in EU and USA. Hate towards gay people, however, illegal in most parts.

>Just delete this thread

I hate potugals, they annoy me and I butthurt from them. Off computer, take 9mm pistol, but barrel in your mouth and delete yourself. - sounds very very rude, isn't it? Well this is how such things sound to other people when you saying them without reason. If you want search threads that better remove - there appeared some number of political threads that I trying to avoid since I expecting there pol-tier politics. Go fight them, not me.

>>14776
You are going to be ashamed for this thread every time you point out for quality or whatsoever. You must know, furfaggotry is nowhere adored, and the fuck knows why ECmods didn't ban you for this thread alone.
It's upon them to let faggots be online, yet I have the right to call you a fag because the fag you are.

>>14781

>You are going to be ashamed for this thread every time you point out for quality or whatsoever.

Not a single bit. This is not shitposting and not picture dumping thread, it's not porn dumping thread and not poltard thing. It is not me who answering on pretty civil explanation posts like this, continueasly calling me "faggot" and forcing there 4cancer aggresive mentality. For what you should be ashamed - it's for your current post that feels like something out of sosach.
You trying to ashame me, but it is your behaivor disgusting and inappropriate.

This thread could have been so much about but some posters just compelled to return to the same vinyl record and stir shit instead of correcting course away from furry discussion.
Well, it still has some potential, it's not lost, Ernst just needs to be constructive instead of destructive.

>>14410
You're right about the Egyptians and the message they try to relay through their imagery. Tho I would take a step away from the actual depictions to the thought that created these gods. And that's anthropomorphism. To remain at the example, they saw the crocodiles in the Nile and they saw them dangerous and powerful, they saw them as a force of nature and they created the idea of the croc god, Sobek based on their experience with these creatures.

>Zodiac is something nowdays belive only eldery-midage woman or people who belive in ayyliens in their backyard

Nod really. Almost all women are interested in this, only the very rational minded isn't. Men generally aren't but in certain circles little background knowledge could help to score.

>>14880

>Nod really. Almost all women are interested in this, only the very rational minded isn't.

I trought that this is kind of like AYYLIENS, popularity of which seriosly decline over cource of XXI centuary. Like when even in 90s there was hell lot serious UFO belivers, nowdays much less people belive in it and even much less give a shit about it. Today general audience belive in this like "Terroformation of mars by nukes".

>>14782
You wanted to make a furfag thread. You did not even bother trying to hide the furfaggotry inclinations while still pretending to be a stealth furfag thread. You made this specifically as anthro and make my eyes bleed every time I scroll past. He is not sosacher; he is simply correct in making a point. If you truly wanted to discuss this you would have added more things like totems, mythic beasts and Egyptian gods. Instead you chose two blatantly furfaggit deviant art pics and a comic pic. You have openly admitted to being a furfag in the past and have openly asked questions about whether anyone else is a furfag and wishes to engage in furfaggotry with you on the board and I am not talking about this thread. We politely ignored it because you're a good poster otherwise but this thread is pushing it.

>>17957
I think you're making bigger fuss out of it than it deserves. It was made clear by several posters they don't like furry content, but then not treat it as such, you guys can make a thread into whatever you want. I don't see the point kicking into him once more instead of posting such related content that leads away from the literal furry stuff.
I also don't think he had the intention of making a furry porn thread, since I saw no porn on this site ever.

>>17911
I think these trends are going around, bouncing back as the time goes on. What's fashionable today goes out of fashion tomorrow but come back the day after it.
Here generally women interested in astrology and horoscopes. Superficially. Overwhelmingly large portion of them has no deeper knowledge, for example enough for how to make a horoscope. They also like bunch of "occult" stuff or probably "esotery" is the more proper word, maybe they don't participate actively or read about such things by themselves, but something related comes up they are very much attentive. Mostly stuff from the side that can influence relationships and love ofc.
What I noticed as a new "new" as came into fashion (again) in recent years, some new book was published hip shit is the "law of attraction", I heard it mentioning by men but mostly by women.
With all these they just try to find an easily understandable answer for such complex concepts that they couldn't grasp otherwise. And people are such that when we have "understanding" comes the feeling that we are in control, and can influence the outcome of events. And people are fond of that.

>>17983
Oh yeah, I remembered. This shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_%28book%29

>>17983

>I think you're making bigger fuss out of it than it deserves. It was made clear by several posters they don't like furry content, but then not treat it as such, you guys can make a thread into whatever you want. I don't see the point kicking into him once more instead of posting such related content that leads away from the literal furry stuff.

Nah, if I ever had to post even questionable erotic picture, I'd cover it with spoiler tag. But anyway, I think at this point better ignore him, since he have some issues. This kind of behaivor I can describe only by this "NPC meme". While NPC meme itself become just dumb pol thing, in his purest meaning it actually fit - general audience don't have it's own opinion on things. Goverment or society just tell them "this is bad" and "this is good" - and they obey this law. They don't know why rasizm is bad, for example, they just follow this rule because they was said too. For example, if I'd say that I'am black person, and it was ~1953, this american poster offend me same way that "you are good poster, but you are black and you should leave this site it's white people only". Same with furry and anthro animals in general. He don't know why it's bad, so he repeating negative special cases he can put as examples, in first to justify his own actions as positive, in second - convince himself that he is right, not others.
I made this thread in hope to convince people not to think by stereotypes and not judge all people who love anthro animals by default as bad because they was told to, not me - I not care that much, but I imagine they can meet good people in real life which they can hurt, and thier behaivor is main reason why only lunatics is loud part of comunity - most of good and rational people just not tell abount it, fearing offence from people like that.

Funny thing that I discovered this channel accidentaly (from video about Temple OS) and it generaly kind of cringey, it reminded me old Lurkmore articles about infamous crazy internet people but presented in format presentable for general audience and I feel not comfort when he talks about "4chan is popual forums where you can post anonimusly" and things like that, and in general, I think it not best formato on youtube to talk about other youtube people - it like "Let's review other reviwers", at least not content I interested in. Hovewer I watched it a little bit about things I didn't know anything about - since I was not very active in english parts of internet in 00s, and I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aF2GxWi7Ag . I fear to watch this video itself because it'd probably be full of shame, descrabing most infamous "communities" and all things related to them, but I readed some of the coments and they of cource was very mixed, exept joking one. Of cource, not a surprise to see Adam from yourmoviesucksDOTorg on top, but there was a couple of interesting ones, that describe situation

>Regarding the comments here, is it really more socially acceptable to make hateful comments and straight up death threats against the overwhelming majority of Furries than it is to accept them as productive members of society that partake in a subculture that is not only harmless but constructive in allowing people to express themselves and sharpen their creative skills?

I'd not say such things about ALL furries, but I hate majority of mankind in general, but it nicely describe actual situation. People - even in this thread, think that it is moraly right for them to behaivor like worst part of 4chan towards other people by default, because they think this other people "are not right".

>Here generally women interested in astrology and horoscopes. Superficially. Overwhelmingly large portion of them has no deeper knowledge, for example enough for how to make a horoscope. They also like bunch of "occult" stuff or probably "esotery" is the more proper word, maybe they don't participate actively or read about such things by themselves, but something related comes up they are very much attentive. Mostly stuff from the side that can influence relationships and love ofc.

There was popular such thing as "Vanga" in early-mid 90s-00s. An old blind woman from bolgaria whom for some reason was belived to see future, hell lot even of politicans for some reason go to her. Then he turn out to be a meme in mid-00s - somebody discovered in social networks fake list of her "predictions" and it was absoluetly hilarius. Additionaly, she became a meme on forums and imageboards. "Vangoving" is when you predict obvious thing - like Captian Obvious, but in future. Like you post picture of Vanga and tell something like "Tommorow sun will rise again".
Adittionaly, right after fall of USSR was a blast of hundreds, if not thousands of obviously fake "magic healers", "super humans", "visionaries of the future" etc. Most popular groups even appeared on federal television because in 90s nobody gived a shit. Guys like Kashpirovsky - people even placed water to TV, in hope it will "charge" from Kashpirovsky power.
I think, it gone to decline of popularity ater "Grobovoy event" - when guy - obviously Grobovoy - claimed that he will ressurect kids died in city of Beslan school terrorist attack. Obviosly, he can't and he ended in prison.
Then, there was rise of popularity of REN TV channel and TV3 which constantly maded 9000 of pseudo-science documentaries, constantly talking about mystics, ayyliens, nazis in antarctica, reptiloids and other crap like that. In 2010s it become meme too and now mostly old people watch and belive in it.

>>17984
Oh yes yes, there was secret of water, than this "secret" where you "can belive in yourself and you can do everything", but for me it all was long ago, same time as was "Indigo children" popularity.

>>17988
Ah, Grabovoy. The guy really came into fashion in Hungary recently, for whatever God forsaken reason.
People are generating random numbers to "protect the water's DNA", "cure cancer" and such.
It's batshit crazy.

>>17991
Seriosly? Lol Itrought he dead already. He is one of the most obvious and dumb clowns, not even Vanga level. I heared that during time when he was in prison he said that he just played role, but most of moneies he did gone to his "boss", and he just an actor, not actual orgoniser of all things.
Even if this guys alive, it is surprise to me that anybody on this planet start beliving to him again, after all happened. However, remembering Mavrodi...

>>17995
His "teachings" took root on social media and they organise themselves mainly through Facebook.
They even hold meetings and seminars afaik.
You can even "generate" new Grabovoy numbers on a site specifically created for this. (Though trolls made it so that the top used number is "I wish all Grabovoy numbers would lose their power retrospectively".)
No idea though why a self proclaimed "medium" who was popular in Russia more than 20 years ago is suddenly popular here in Hungary. It's seeds most probably just fell on ample soil on social media.

>>17988
Did you seriously just compare yourself to the plight of the American black person in the 50s? You see, this is actually one of the other major reasons your kind are hated on the internet. It is not an "NPC meme" you tard it is a general annoyance at furfag behavior. "Fursecution" is another one of those completely annoying fucktard things furfags do, like comparing themselves to Jews in the holocaust when anybody tells them we hate furry shit being spammed on a forum.

>morally right

It has nothing to do with morals I quite simply don't want to see degenerate perverted furfag crap on an actually nice board. It is an active thought out preventive measure to ensure there is no horse's ass being posted here. Anyway I thought I had this thread hidden but I guess I forgot.

>>18008

>annoyance at furfag behavior.

You find by "annoying" not certain persons, not certain parts of community - but existance of all of it, so yes, I compared it to black persons for two reasons:
1.Untill you was told to, it was normal to hate them. People changed their opinion only because they was told to.
2.You not don't like specific people, or parts of community - you hate all by default whatever people are. You place stereotypes on them and project on others. There are people who hate speceific subcultures of black people - like "I hate RAP people", but there are people who hate actual race, and basicly wish balck people to "unborn" and blame them for default, and they can't change anything to fit this person requrments.

Yes, others may compare it to holocaust, to black people and to other forms of opressions - because it is same tier of social opression, even if it not gone too far on level of "mass murdering", which I hope, never ended. Your post - is cancerous toxic peace of hate. I don't like words like "toxic", but this is. And person who use woring like you are - not a person who has right to tell about "nice board". You already presented yourself as shitposter, who additionaly can not even in basic logic, who project stereotypes of certain groups among all people and who can not understand how some words can harm other people. I can imagine that by such posting you may hardly insult other, more sensetive person.

Why is this not hidden did I clear my cache or something
>>18017

>1.Untill you was told to, it was normal to hate them. People changed their opinion only because they was told to.

No, I found it deviant and disgusting for similar reasons why I found bestiality revolting. Like most people who base their identity and lifestyles around a sexual fetish, they don't seem to understand why constantly displaying it in public in the most obscene way annoys the shit out of most people, and then they cry about it when others call them out on it and express their displeasure.

>2.You not don't like specific people, or parts of community - you hate all by default whatever people are.

I don't like neonazi American trash, narcissists, or pedophiles either. Some of them may have redeeming qualities. This does not detract from them already being annoying and/or scum in different ways.

> You place stereotypes on them and project on others. There are people who hate speceific subcultures of black people - like "I hate RAP people", but there are people who hate actual race, and basicly wish balck people to "unborn" and blame them for default, and they can't change anything to fit this person requrments.

Actually here's the thing, you are acting perfectly like a furfag. When people say, I can't stand it when people spam a forum with furry shit and furry porn, rather than apologizing or trying to keep it to a minimum, they get super offended and double down on their faggotry, calling themselves persecuted and comparing themselves to the plight of Jews or the American negro in slavery when other people call them faggots and tell them their spamming furry shit on a board is not appreciated. You are acting exactly 100% like a typical furfag and are apparently too blind to see it.

You are in other words acting pretty much like a different sort of poltard. You see the thing is, a poltard cannot help himself from being a faggot because he doesn't see it. He has no capacity for self reflection, similar to an NPC. He can be counted on to make the exact same retarded shitposts and spam Wyat Mann memes over and over and throw around the same stupid slogans and meme accusations, and when people tell him to stop being such a faggot he doubles down on his own faggotry and cries about how persecuted he is.

>Yes, others may compare it to holocaust, to black people and to other forms of opressions - because it is same tier of social opression

It isn't. It's nowhere near that and it's profoundly offensive and disrespectful to people who have actually suffered throughout history. Like a typical furfag you have no capacity to realize you're being a total asshat by saying that.

>Your post - is cancerous toxic peace of hate. I don't like words like "toxic", but this is. And person who use woring like you are - not a person who has right to tell about "nice board". You already presented yourself as shitposter, who additionaly can not even in basic logic, who project stereotypes of certain groups among all people and who can not understand how some words can harm other people. I can imagine that by such posting you may hardly insult other, more sensetive person.

No, you have already proven yourself as a furfag. Regardless of the quality of your other postings, right here you are simply acting like a faggot by daring to compare yourself to Jews or blacks in oppression because somebody on the internet said they don't like scrolling down a quality board and suddenly seeing cartoon horse ass.

>>18038
Although lastly I will say this, you at least have the decency to keep it contained to one thread

>>18038
Okay, I think other wording don't give you any clue, or any idea what's wrong in toyr behaivor. I try to describe it simple and by your language so I hope you can finnaly get a point.

1.NOBODY GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU IN YOU SICK BRAIN THINK IS BAD - everybody posting things they like, as much as this is follow general rules - I not posting porn and not posting something horrible, I not shitposting so why I or others should give a fuck about what you think is horrible. Other peoples think that Anime is "degenerate shit", third ones thinks that internet is "degenerate shit" - should we all hear all this lunatics?
2.WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU TO ACT LIKE TOTAL SHIT? - okay, you in your ill mind think that furry is by default bad. Should I give a fuck, when you threating me like some kind of subhuman? You don't ever think, you shit, that what you say offence other people? And while I don't give a fuck about it because you pathetic trash compare to same tier people from Sosach, or to local gopnics, you may still offence other people for no reason. I can imagine there other person who love anthro animals or furry - and people like you basicly persecute, bully and offence this people. Even I right there feel bad - you call me degenerate, shit, fag etc. Maybe you shut up your mouth and apologize immideatly and never repeat this thing again in your entire life?
3.FROM WHERE THIS CANCER SPEECH? - are you from 4cancer, m8? From where this "degeneracy", "faggot", "furfag"? If you want to talk like that - fuck off from there to hole from where you appear. This is not some shithole in alabama where accepted your prison laws and XIX centuary morale.

I LIKE ANTHRO ANIMALS. I NOT FAG, THIS IS NOT DEGENERACY, YOU HAS NO RIGHT TO OFFENCE ME OR ANY OTHER PEOPLE FOR THAT. YOU CAN PUT YOUR "DON'T ASK DON'T TELL" LAW IN YOUR ASS, SAME AS YOUR DUMB FANATSIES ABOUT DEVIANTART, YOU PEACE OF SHIT, I NOT SHITPOSTER, NOT POSTING PORN, AND YOU HAS NO ANY MORAL RIGHT TO OFFENCE ME OR CALL ME BY BAD WORDS OR TELL WHAT POST OR WHAT NOT POST.

>>18044
Might be a good idea just ignore him and post whatever you want to post. You can always have constructive conversations with others.

>>17988
Lots of people find those who try making a career on the esoterism wave funny, or fast to make fun of them (and easy), a good portion of them might do so however because they are superstitious and feel intimidated by "powers" they can't comprehend and making fun is a defensive mechanism or because they feel that's the norm. And another good portion of these will take esoterism seriously behind closed doors.
On the other hand many charlatans are funny, or the other side many can be very rational (so more people take them seriously). Whatever this turns into offtopic ramble.

>>17991
>>18002
When he was popular in Russia we had Uri Geller bending spoons. Now we need someone else it seems.

Something else, more offtopic:
Nowadays I see many people getting animals as replacement of kids. I mean relatively young people. Couples getting a dog, or dogs, or singles both men and women dogs or cats. Couples never cats tho. Ofc people prefer different things, but do they have certain traits which makes them pick a certain species?
I'm gonna write an example.
Cats generally are more independent animals, usually considered haughty who look down on people. On the other hands dogs being pack animals are more social and friendly toward mankind and less possessive, usually described as best friend or companion.
So some lonely women pick a cat, and became his servant. And the cat shits on her and only seeks her companionship when wants something from her. Otherwise "leave me alone".
Other women however pick a dog. Which will be more of a companion. But dogs' society is absolutely hierarchical, and if the master doesn't claim the place of the master - as most people do, they have no idea how to be a master - the dog will became the master and validate his will over the woman. He decides what to eat, where to walk and how fast etc.
So both type of women choose pet instinctively. Both pet represents different behavioral model. Maybe the two type of women seeks similar behavior in men?

>>18048

>more offtopic

I mean on. ON!

>>18048

>When he was popular in Russia we had Uri Geller bending spoons.

That guy was even popular in Russia? You gotta give it to him that he made it quite far with some lousy trick.

>>18051

>he made it quite far

Russia is just 500 km away, he didn't make it that far :^)

>>>18044
>Might be a good idea just ignore him and post whatever you want to post. You can always have constructive conversations with others.

Icreated thread in hope of change minds of people like him too - there hell lot of offences not only among internet, but in real life too. From what I seen, many 4chan-ideology people while see that actual black and arabic people are hard target for them, they aim their bullying on people who can not respond. And while of cource there is real lunatics who publically appearing at BDSM costumes and don't give a fuck, there are people who of cource not livby jungle law. If even this american poster, who counts himself as good person fallen to so horrible offence - I fear to imagine what more agrresive people can do. If I ever convince at least single person to not behaive like that, it already be something, really. And he clearly want continue conversation, since hiddening thread, even without Dshchan is single click of single second. So I still hope I'll manage to find way to talk with him, trying different methods in hope one of them he will understand. However, observing him I find that he have very strong connections to already preset values and ideas, it is had for him to change view on concept or accenpt new concept of it confliction with already established one, I think this is main problem.

>>>17988
>On the other hand many charlatans are funny, or the other side many can be very rational (so more people take them seriously). Whatever this turns into offtopic ramble.

Of cource majority of them is rational but fun comes not from there - fun comes from fact that they making things that general audience - or their specific audience may belive, and understanding that a lot normal people around you may belive in this nonsence make it actually funny. And post orinic jokes about how bad that is. Sad that I can't post cut parts from this TV shows since they are on russian, but it like infinity source of comedy - from content of this shows to editing - when it often random animated sliedshow with radom pictures and gifs with ayyliens, ghosts and UFOs from movies, videogames, other tv shows and obvious 50yo fakes with "bigfoot" and "ayyliens".
Most hilarious one I remember when some character set or something like that broken - you know, Unicode, UTF-8 etc and some grandma from printer just get random charater set instead of document, and she strongly belived that it was message from other stars, not just broken word doucument lol

>So both type of women choose pet instinctively. Both pet represents different behavioral model. Maybe the two type of women seeks similar behavior in men?

I'd not generlise this that much. Many people take pets just because they loke how they look, or because they think it some standart, or they rised as kids with animals, and I seen many different people who pick animals for very different reasons.
Sometimes old woman pick some dogs there because they rised all kids and now alone and they whole life cared about someone and now feel empty. I don't way that in this case dog in any way dominant.
After so much live with man, and nature of dogs, which, unlike wolves, have one dominant who is absolute overlord over pack, it's easy to control dog, espessialy if it rised from childhood with man. Animal automaticly think about human and as more adult member of pack, or parent, or even pack leader.

Generally about pets - I don't like when people have pets in urban enivorment. When animal constantly shall live in city small apartament, smell ol this human things and walk only in small dedicated zones. I can imagine this as life in prison.

>>18017

>Yes, others may compare it to holocaust, to black people and to other forms of opressions - because it is same tier of social opression, even if it not gone too far on level of "mass murdering", which I hope, never ended.

Please, for the love of God, stop.

>>18073
I'am not belive in your god and I don't see any "love" there

Interesting picture with systhematic of different dragon-like creatures. I always was interested in idea of different dragon-like sub-species. Sadly, not many fantasy using it as foundation for eco-systems or society ierarchy
Pic also not covers all types of such creatures in myphology, such as eastern slavic "serpet-of-moutians" which is basicly dragon, but with multiple heads like hydra

>>18729
I mean it really depends. I absolutely fucking hated it when such things are randomly inserted in a scifi setting, like that one 4x game where there's two alien races that are just dragons. I don't think it's impossible to pull off, but is extremely unlikely to ever not be crap in a scifi setting and like 99% of the people who would think to do that aren't going to pull it off. In a fantasy setting it really depends. I personally was never a big fan of the whole elves and princesses and dragons thing when younger, and I especially am tired of it now, but it can be cool. I think the main thing to me is if you can actually come up with plausible excuse to wave it off. Like a fire breathing animal is funnily enough not inconceivable. We have a beetle that sort of does that. We even have electric shocking animals, and you would think creating an explosive fiery exothermic chemical reaction wouldn't be much harder to pull off than venom. I just want some reason why they would exist in the setting and how they work but sadly most things from Game of Thrones to Shadowrun basically say "lol it's magic I ain't gotta explain shit"

>>18733
Well, to say honestely absolute majority of "science fiction" is just "space fantasy". And even if science fiction tring to follow "science" prediction it early or late become outdated with new scietific discoveries and fall into "fantasy" category too, for good or for bad.

>I don't think it's impossible to pull off, but is extremely unlikely to ever not be crap in a scifi setting and like 99% of the people who would think to do that aren't going to pull it off.

Well, when I was much younger I was kind of science fiction/fantasy purists, because my knowlege about it was in range of Warcraft1-3 and some basic science fiction movies.

After I discovered for myself Warhammer, both FB and 40k, Might and magic, Dark Crystall, Star Wars EU, Flash Gordon, Elder Scrolls, and all kinds of shit like that that expanded my horison of knowlege, all walls between ssetings and genres melted for me. For me nowdays exist only one wall - realty and science on one side, imagination and creativity on other side.

>Game of Thrones

One of the most lame and un-creative fantasy universes
However I say it not always something should be permanetly original, realistic, or explain everything. Sometimes less is more - in current days of fashion on crappty "cinematic universes" and "realistic boring fantasy" we lost that kind of magical stories of faity-tale worlds.

For me interest in dragons goes from first place because they are very beutifull creatures. I think everyone in his life once wanted become a dragon - mighty, big, powerfull, wize and beutifull flying creature that live thousands of years. It also one of the most recognisable symbols, heraldic animal and most known mypthical creature. Srom china to western europe dragons in all froms known as symbols of good, or evil or power or anything. Dragons only compite in this by Griffins and all kind of Eagels.

This characters from Mania shorts cartoon so cute. Well yellow one is sometimes too much gay (in good meaning of this word)

https://youtu.be/FvvZaBf9QQI
Oh my god. Kill this abomination please. For fucks sake, why

A formidable effort to keep this thread off the topic of smut.

Yet it only interests me as a study of extent of human sexuality.

>>22045
Looks like some sort uncanny valley thing. On other hand, Jim Carrey in it, maybe it'll be funny at least.

>>22132
I saw and image of Carrey as Robotnik and man, this shit is hilarious.
The fact that this shit is happening at all is absurd, and thus incredibly funny.

>>22132
I thought Sonic on the picture is a joke.

>>22045
Hahaha what the fuck. Sega really are masters of digging their own graves.

Is it weird that the thing that irritated me the most is the choice of music? Gangsters Paradise, seriously?

>>22132
>>22133

I dunno about Carrey if he alone can make something out of this movie. Currently this absoluetly looks like I predicted - like this trash Sony movies, about Woody Woodpecker, Pixels, Alvin and Chumpkins etc. This movie even made by same templates - and I really worry that after this Carrey will just turn into Adam Sandler and Paul Blart category. Not to metion that even if he is good actor, he is the person who the least fit for this role. And it's pain because look at pic - many years ago fans already cretaed perfect cast!
Not to metion that for that movie they cancelled "Sonic Boom" cartoon which was probably best series carton in this lame era of dark age of animation.

>>22140
>>22143
Tbh today was the news about they will change look of sonic. Funny, how with modern cheap CGI you can basicly redo main character compleatly after you actually done movie. Can't wait to see if they will fix him or not. Movie as movie hovever will be terrible anyway most probably.

>>22130

>A formidable effort to keep this thread off the topic of smut.

This thread was created for something like that. Not that sexual topics is forbidden, but clearly it should not be arguing on 150 posts why people who like it is not "degenerates who should kill yourself".

>Yet it only interests me as a study of extent of human sexuality.

And what do you need to know? I think, this theme is pretty obvious. And for "deep study" not that hrd to find "particular resources".

>>22149
I dont need anything, I just like finding the boundaries beyond which the popularity of rendition rolls off.
It's an artist thing I guess. Very subtle changes to character can make a lot of difference.

>>22166
Not shure I'am understand you fully correctly, sorry. You searching in question, why people find different things beautifull and attractive and others not?

>>22244

There are of course different tastes and fetishes, but among them you can establish a certain heterosexual core. It cant be defined mathematically among other reasons because an exact 3D model is usually too perfect and therefore uncanny. But a drawing here and there leaves cues from which your own mind can recreate something which is more than what is put down to paper or screen. Your own eyes work where they cant work with renders, to recreate in your mind an image. So if you take this core (a slant of upper butt, the curve of hips, the hallway of thigh gap, the neck and the soft curves of belly) and stretch it in weird directions (torso length, hips shape, mass of neck) then you yourself dont know what the result would be. Sometimes it retains hotness, sometimes it breaks.

>>22247

>a certain heterosexual core

Not shure hat you talking about. There and gay, and bisexual people inside any fetishes.

>because an exact 3D model is usually too perfect and therefore uncanny.

If you mean that some anthro stuff in 3d is bad or creepy, this is if it just done bad. You can not transfer simplified stylised 2d art in direct 3d - this all. It is same as say "3d humans can't exist because I make 3d anime and it is ungly". I don't think it is uncanny if done detailed and realisticly, with proper look and proportions.

>So if you take this core

It is very depends actually. There a lot different persons and a lot of different tastes. I talkd about preferences somewhere in thread, but this post was done when thread floated in shitpost. You right by sporring that a lot of generic furry stuff is just humans with doggo head. There a lot of people who just like their cartoonish animals or just same anime humans, just with noses and tails.
If you ask me, I find this stuff boring, and find beauty in, for example, anthro lizzards with correct proportions, no boobs and no any mammal fat and other cheap stuff that makes lizzard more look like human. I like feral dragons and Deathclaws from fallout 3, for example.

https://youtu.be/U_O8DN1CY_E
Great example of people don't understand basics of making anthro animals.
This is most creepy uncanny valley I ever saw in recent times, even worse than sonic movie. This is lliterally CGI humans covered with fur... this faces will give me nightmares lol.

>>24699
Like seriously, who thought this will be a good idea and good desighn? Sometimes I feel that modern movies don't have production quality and they don't even watch the movie before ship it off to cinemas lol

>>24750
For some wierd reason this horror constantly reminds me about infamous shopped brendan fraser picture.

>>24699
>>24750
Just think: We could've had Taylor Swift prancing around in a catsuit. One of the most elementary decisions that follows both the established aesthetics and saves millions of dollars.

Oh look they cast black guys in the cool roles while the white guys are comedy sidekicks or gay

>>24750
>>24751
>>24699
Just goes to show that furries are uncultured swines. But that probably is just makes them horny to be called.

>>24754
For fuck sake. It is a musical it is gay by definition and just that you noticed anyone else but the girls just shows that you have homosexual tendencies.

Also they made Old Deuteronomy a woman! HERESY!!!
Nay, just kidding.

>>24755

>Just goes to show that furries are uncultured swines. But that probably is just makes them horny to be called.

Where there connection to "furries", 4cancer trash?

>>24757

> Anthropomorphic animals thread
> Can we have quality thread on this topic?

Only furries would ever think it would be possible.

Cats being "Great example of people don't understand basics of making anthro animals."
Yes, because it is based on a musical on live stage where they didn't have CGI and they most likely wanted some visual connection to it. The original has really good make-up and costumes. Also the choreograph of the original musical was more or less locked in a house full of cats so he could study them so if anyone knows cats it would be him. He also disliked cats.

So basically your first thought when you found the trailer was "I can't fap to this".

> anthro

Only furries use this. Nobody sane ever needs to shorten "anthropomorphic animals".

And you get very upset when someone calls you a furry.

Need I point out more?

>>24755

>It is a musical it is gay by definition

Fuck off gaylord.

>>24764
No, I can like or dislike them anyway and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

>>24762
>>24764
>>24767
What a great amound of aggresive shitpost.

>Only furries would ever think it would be possible.

And it possible, if you watch this thread - when there no 4canker shitposters like you, disscution pretty civil. I like to talk about mystical and fantasy creatures, fictionl alien races and their desighn.

>So basically your first thought when you found the trailer was "I can't fap to this".

My first thought was is that creepy as hell and not attractive in any mean, not sexual, but more general standart ones. Rules of "Uncanny valley" is general for most of humans. And looking as likes-dislikes in this trailer, I'am right saying that it is ugly.

>anthro

Why not make word shorter, when you talk about something often? Anthropomorphic creature is general therm of allpying some rules of human body and mind structure that seraparate it from other known species.

>>24768
Your problem was in using the second image. That is obvious 1000% sexual furfaggotry. Hence why everyone keeps giving you shit for it to this very day.

Honestly at this point you should just abandon the thread and start a new one, without a sexualized horse ass.

>>24764
He isn't entirely wrong

>>24803

>That is obvious 1000% sexual furfaggotry

One of main goals of this thread was suposed to disscution about body structure, different creatures proportions, thing like this. I find it interesting theme, since many media - from science fiction to fairy tales, from times of ancient myths to modern mass culture, when creating mystical, alien, or any kind of non-existing creatures, which have some parts - physical or mental inspired by humans, there is often uspoken sets of different rules and ideas, why they do one things that way or another.
Mystical creations of past centuries can tell a lot about human imaginations, human needs and limitations of their creativity. Same way, long history of creating art and making things that not exist give us actual understanding of what human person can find attractive and what not. What desighns belivable and which ones clearly will not work in any kind of fictional media. As someone who really interested in this specific theme, way beyound just simple sexual attraction as part of personal fetishes (however I do and I not ashamed about it) and have some experience in this degree, I wanted to talk with other people in serious manner about rules, visuals, styles, proportions - all little details which makes something belivable by viewer or attractive - not even in some kind of sexual way, but as simples example - when you watch on cartoon character or your tabletop fantasy game hero. There we also may add rules of stylisation. This topic is oftent underestimated, thus examples of this "cats" and this "sonic movie" greatly show problem, when desighners and artists clearly don't understand what they doing in this field, creating ugly and creepy images of what should've been - and it was meant to disscused in this thread this way.
Pictures in the top of this thread was selected by me at time of it's creation to best way represtent thematics I wanted to aim for. I choosed best... well maybe not best, but more or less great pictures in mine opinion that looks both realistic enough you can belive and imagine this creatures in reality, and same way they look attractive enough to be places in different sorts of popular media - fantasy/science fiction stuff in general. This why in many other posts used as example quality in mine opinion desighns presented in media, to show contrast to actual non great or bad desighns. Picture with "horse ass" you constantly reminding about dosen't even contain any genitalia or asshole to begin with. This picture was good to represent musculature and overall body structure, which I found important, and as I said already this picture greatly represent what I wanted to disscus - and clearly I wanted to disscus not what this thread ended at 80% of the time. Same as picture kind of similar to way you tipicly representing examples of classical body proportions - in antique sculpture and renaissance paitings.
And I don't want to change it, or apology or constantly argue about fact that sexual attraction to non-existent creature is something that horrible you need to humiliate person for just one that fact.
But I'll will not create new thread after this goes down most probably. Since obviusly, amount of real disscution I wanted there not big - some posts on mysic creatures, some posts about other interesting things, but not much. Majority of it become some sort of bait for degenerate idiots, whom only work is to aggresive shitpost, kontra and just fill thread with terrible crap. Looks like every immature idiot who passes on EC from KC wanted to shitpost here for some reason, or listen another post of hate that I sould kill myself from some redneck who was as child raped at sunday school and now finding even baisic idea of even existance of such thing as some sort of "sin" that should be eleminated just because he see some idiots in plush constumes who fuck each other and it touch his pseudo-moral ideals.

>>24822

>being racist against primates

Primates are unironically cool.

>>24864
Gorillas are ebin, I agree. My dad used to really like them too.

I want to give that chimp suspenders and docs :-DDD

>>24864
>>24867
It was "reverse" joke towards she can view creatures with hummn faces as "anthro apes". Yeah, "quality jokes" ha ha.

However Primates are interesting topic too. I find if facinating that humans often disgust by apes and use them as example of "bad" animal. People don't like their behaivor, found annoying and stupid, even thought they one of the most smart animals on earth. As I know it is because we close species and we recognising in them actual our behaivor and our features, but in kind of "distorted mirror" and nature have mechanism to separating close, but not entierly close species by making them don't like each other (funny that it's applying to cultural part too between different, but close cultures in our civilisation Ukrainians-Russians, Balcan nations etc.)

From fiction of cource first thing you remember is Planet of the Apes where somebody tried to make anthropomorphic apes. What you can say about desighns in different movies? I can say that for me 2001 version sometimes "creepy" because they added human lips - and with apes it is so easy to fall into "creepy valley"
1960s ones did great job on other hand transforming human more advanced facial expressions into more animal apperance and same time make it belivable - without actual CGI.

>>24875

>1960s ones did great job on other hand transforming human more advanced facial expressions into more animal apperance and same time make it belivable - without actual CGI.

True.