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No. 1165
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What is Ernst currently reading?

Also further planning of the EC reading group.
No. 1166
King of Ashes by Raymond E Feist. It's the first book in a new series set in a completely new world.
No. 1170
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I just read the article "The Kentucky Derby Is Decadent and Depraved" by Hunter S. Thompson and it was great indeed. I've never read any of his stuff before, just knew him from watching Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas as a teenager and didn't really bother since then. But it was actually a great read and I know understands why he was and is so widely celebrated. As a foreigner and layman of english language I can't really judge his literary style but it really got me and I'd really recommend reading it.

No. 1173
I have been rereading a few of my old J.D. Salinger short stories. This morning I read 'A Good Day for Bananafish'. I highly recommend it. It doesn't require perfect English to appreciate either because the writing itself is pretty simplistic, it's just the contents that are a bit more in-depth. He's probably my favourite author because of that. I'd recommend most of his work, but this one especially if you're trying to get into Camus since there are some similar themes that are presented a bit easier if not as complexly, in it.

I'm also still working my way through the Book of Words by Abai during my Kazakh study sessions. It's still very good also. English translation works fine but the feeling is slightly different. I find that the Kazakh version says things faster by nature of the language and there are a few things here and there that make more sense in Kazakh than in English despite good efforts to translate it.

I'd also highly recommend it.
No. 1186
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I once again read the Geralt-Saga by Sapkowski. And before someone cries about how shitty and casual and mainstream the witcher is by now, BTFO. Sapkowski has likeable characters and his storytelling is very nice and easy to read.
No. 1187
It is in my possession but I haven't opened it yet.
Othello by W.Shakespeare.

Just read Dracula by Bram Stoker, would recommend.
No. 1190
Is this New Journalism style? If so I heard that the Electric Kool Aid Acid Test is a classic in that genre. I want to read it myself but its way down on my list, sadly.
No. 1191
>Electric Kool Aid Acid Test
Read The Right Stuff instead. It's more intredasting, IMO.
No. 1194
I just notice his other books, his first two also sound interesting, given the years, americas golden age in capitalism tbh. I really like short stories and novels from that era 1950-2000 that deal with american life in different social stratas and milieus. He has also written about the Silicon Valley during its rise it seems.

Damn how I am supposed to read all this? At least its not academical texts which will speed it
No. 1207
I was going to read Dead Souls again. However, I just finished reading Nabokov's book about Gogol in which he points out many mistranslations in the Hapgood version, and it so happens that I've been reading the Hapgood version since I was 14, so I felt it necessary to order a new copy.
No. 1208
I read nothing, I degraded ;_;
But recently I read Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon and ended in the middle of the book(?). Don't know why, maybe really degraded, because I was a bookworm when I was a child
No. 1212
So you just need the right books or you became lazy or fed up with it.
No. 1239
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I've read two short stories by Kawabata Yasunari. They are in an old magazine from the 80s. Pretty OK stuff, but it's not as good as his later novels which are deeper and longer.
Otherwise I'm still reading the Nibelungenlied and now I'm up to the Twenty-first Adventure
No. 1282
I'm at the end of 12 Rules for Life. It's pretty good I guess, I wish I had instead picked up Maps and Meaning as I'm far more interested his myth analysis but overall he presents a philosophy to life that while I don't wholly agree with has a good methodology to it.

What I don't understand is how this became such a popular book on the internet right after Stirner or why Peterson can't stop blubbing about the post-modernism bogeyman and actually read up on what it is both as a (now past) reaction to logical positivism and fair critique of his own doctrine. Then there is how he spends a chapter justifying the position of suffering = bad as a first principle when he certainly should be aware from the common lessons in his own research that autonomy takes precedence and that many other feelings can be intuitively known (we all know what injustice feels like for example).

I look forward to his debate with Zizek in October.
No. 1294
Continued reading Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil today, only the last chapter left. It is an intellectually overwhelming and great experience but still reading the book can be quite tiring at the times. Anyways it seems like I've regained my interest for philosophy, which I haven't really pursued for years anymore. Will probably read René Guénon's Crisis of the Modern World soon, the idea of philosophia perennialis seems very interesting to me. Also still reading Lolita, I have paused it a bit because of reading some other books but will probably pick it up again after finishing Beyond Good and Evil.

Both recommendations look interesting, I wanted to read some of J.D. Salingers works anyways as I'm continuosly getting into reading american literature in original language, which was very rewarding so far.

There will actually be a debate? As far as I know Zizek invited Peterson to debate him in October but I didn't know that it would actually happen.
I'd love to see it though.
No. 1303
>Continued reading Nietzsche's Beyond Good and Evil today
>reading the book can be quite tiring at the times
I tried reading "Thus spoke Zarathustra" once, but I had the same experience. You can't really afford to let some lines slip by during reading, you always need to have full focus, othrwise you may lose track. That was maybe only beaten by Goethe's Faust Part II, that was a total clusterfuck and clearly well above my level of comprehension.
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I recommend the Glass Family stuff since it comes together nicely as you read it. Seymour Glass is a really interesting character despite his personality not really being all that well developed. He's pretty much the absurdist stuff I was talking about.

Catcher in the Rye is mandatory reading of Salinger if you haven't read it already. If you want to skip ahead, then from the man himself, he describes the main character Holden not as a person but as a 'moment in time'. I say skip ahead because you should read his stuff at least twice, once to appreciate the story and second to actually read it and see what he's trying to actually say. This is especially true of Catcher in the Rye since I find it to be a very comfy story in itself aside from the very relateable themes brought up.

Another interesting piece of American literature would be Co. Aytch by Sam Watkins. It's his memoirs of his time in the Civil War, and while he obviously embellishes a lot of things, it's a nice read and you get a feel for what it was like to participate in something like it. It's not fiction literature but it provides the same kind of entertainment and Sam Watkins is a name that carries some weight, you've probably heard it before really.
No. 1344
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>There will actually be a debate
i don't think so. zizek was very underwhelmed by peterson's book and doesn't appear to be interested in debating him anymore. very understandable in my opinion.

reading "hongakubō ibun" by yasushi inoue right now. it seems it is not available in english. i don't speak japanese, the title of the german translation reads "death of the tea master". it's a crime novel set in historic japan. i like it. next is probably something by philip k. dick or i'll read the original dune series by frank herbert again.
No. 1352
>it seems it is not available in english
How much is it for a German copy?
t.Japanese literature reader who know German
No. 1364
new 8€ on amazon
No. 1366
I have never understood why Catcher in the Rye got so much acclaim. I thought it was incredibly overrated.
No. 1372
It's a Taschenbuch, I see. I like those. I can carry it in my coat's pocket when winter comes around.
No. 1391
das buch gibt's auch gebunden. kostet dann zwar das doppelte, ist aber in der regel deutlich haltbarer als die taschenbuchausgabe. macht natürlich nur sinn, wenn man bücher lange aufhebt. gebraucht gibt's das taschenbuch übrigens schon für unter 1 € bei amazon deutschland.
No. 1516
I finished the new book by Raymond E Feist. It seems to be getting more PC but not too aggressively so. There is just much more mentions of s*x, homosexuality and when listing vices instead of the usual drink and women it's now drugs, drink and women.

Now I am reading Mongol Warrior 1200-1300 ad.
No. 1520
I guess it's a book that you should read when you're in a middle or high school. I've read it when I was fourteen, and I thought that it was great. Me and my buddy who also read it had some serious discussions about it, and also were kinda surprised that it actually was on the school's summertime reading recommendations list (the main character talks about sex, about crossdressers, and even tries to fuck a prostitute!). Then I read it again several years later, and it just didn't feel as good as the first time. The main character looked more like a shallow asshat with some stupid teenager problems and was hardly relatable, other characters weren't great either (except for MC's little sister, she's a qt), and there were no ideas that I could honestly call interesting.
No. 1561
Someone said it is a critic of 1950s america. But I guess that's not the only way to read it. 1950s america was still very conformist I guess, it was in the 1930s and 1940s as you can see in Adornos famous writings from that era where he lived in US exile.

So a teenager is a suitable person to depict conformism. But I agree there are better books on US post-war "realism".
No. 1616
Currently reading a children's book I will likely gift to my oldest nephew: Haroun and the Sea of Stories by Salman Rushdie.

I don't like giving books out of the blue and try to always read them by myself first. Then we can talk about it once he has finished. Smart y/n?
No. 1617
I think it's totally normal behaviour. You shouldn't recommend anything you don't know, when it's possible.
No. 2159
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The second part of the Nihongi arrived so I am reading that. I am almost up to the part where Toyosatomimi no Miko appears.
No. 2161
Smart and considerate. At the very least you are avoiding giving him some trash that will put him off reading forever.

Personally though I never give books to children as I can never work out what is age appropriate and don't want to give them Harry Potter or something similarly ghastly.
No. 2163
I plan on reading the Flaneur chapter in W. Benjamins Baudelaire Essay this evening.

I already started the first pages a few days ago and it was quite comfy. I would like to visit Paris just to see the passages.
No. 2166
>At the very least you are avoiding giving him some trash that will put him off reading forever
Yes, you get it! This will be the first proper book for him, outside those he's forced to read in school. If the reading fly doesn't bite him, I will overwhelm him with comicbooks and save his soul.
No. 2172
I remember reading his drug experiments a few years ago after reading Adorno. It was great when he got high on hash in Marseille, watched the ornaments of some old building and visited a brothel. The way he described the effects it had on his mind was the most beautiful and even realistic description I've ever read. The other drug experiments (like when he did some mescaline with his friends) were interesting too but the trip descriptions were way too cryptical for me.

Also I read "Das Kunstwerk im Zeitalter seiner technischen Reproduzierbarkeit" and I was pretty impressed as well but don't remember a lot besides his optimistic view on TV and the his thought that every piece of art would have an Aura.

Also I had "Berliner Kindheit um Neunzehnhundert" but didn't read it yet.
Had, because oddly the latter two books are missing now. It doesn't happen a lot that I lose books so it's really weird.
No. 2173
Yeah I too think his descriptions of drug usage are quite beautiful and impressing, you wouldn't encounter any trip reports of that kind today.

I also read his Kunstwerk-Aufsatz in 2016 I guess but during that time theoretical thoughts were quite new to me tbh. So I will re-read it soon. Got myself a book from the Gesamtausgabe with both Baudelaire-Aufsatz and Kunstwerk-Aufsatz
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No. 3367
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Just finished A Tale of Negative Gravity. It's a mildly amusing short story of only 20 pages about a retired man's invention of negative gravity and what he then does with it. I actually didn't notice until after I'd finished that the story was written in 1886 as it feels so modern.

If you have a couple hours to kill this Sunday then there are worse ways to spend your time.
No. 3368
Reading decline and fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon on my phone.
No. 3369
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I've finished reading the Nibelungenlied, quite a touching story, I almost cried.
Now I'm in a pickle as to what I should read.Started a bunch of books, but I'm just not feeling it during the summer break. I've worked more on my translations than reading.
Pic related are my options.
No. 3426
They all look boring to me, but tastes are different.

The Young Hitler would be interesting but the caption is bydlo tier.
No. 3446
The inside isn't really bydlo tier. It's basically a bunch of stories a man he was friends with during his late teens/twenties recalls. It just makes me sad. I'm not used to this "human" side of Hitler. The petty student who is well reserved and goes to the opera, and evens starves just so he can afford a ticket.

I think summer is just simply not my season to read. I don't have a daily structure where I could insert it, unlike during the rest of the year when I can just read during commuting, breaks and empty classes. Truly a shame. Maybe I should just write instead.
No. 3451
Do Three Kingdoms. I've been meaning to pick it up myself for a long time and you can give me an earnest review.

Although, I know what you mean with summer reading. Maybe it is something drilled into us during in our school years, that summer time is absolutely not a time for reading. This time of year I just stick to fiction and especially short stories because my attention span folds and I need something to draw me in quickly.
No. 3470

My break will come in a two weeks and I have a shitton of books I ordered in the last weeks, ofc I also have tow write two shorter papers which will include reading.

I wonder if I will going to read anything besides fiction and the stuff for uni. Meh, time is not enough.
No. 3500
Today I read Goethe's "Der Prokurator" (a story about a rich merchant who got himself a wife after long years of voluntary solitude) , finished Walter Benjamin's "Berlin childhood around 1900 (really beautiful prose but at some point I got really bored reading the childhood memories of some jewish rich kid) and "Die Ablösung", a short but dramatic and emotional mountaineering novella from a forgotten german author that was mainly popular in times of national socialism.
No. 3504
Speaking of Goethe, I keep taking down Leinden des Jungen Werthers from the shelf, reading maybe a single paragraph from a random page and putting it back. It feels weird that I now understand a lot of it.
No. 3524
I must admit that I haven't read any of Goethe's major works yet, only some shorter stories and some of his scientifical stuff.
Faust is lying on my bed table (which is actually my computer) but I have only read the opening so far. I really liked what I read from Goethe so far and see why he was and still is praised greatly but having to read him in school spoilt a lot for me and I'm still rehabilitating from it. Reading literature in school often is very destructive, I remember how many pupils absolutely despised and probably still despise Kafka just because of being forced to read him. I mean, only imagine Kafka wouls have known that at some point in history pupils would be forced to read the stuff he wanted to end in flames. I'm not sure if he would laugh himself to death or kill himself out of guilt.
No. 3555
Oh boy, finally finished "Gravity's Rainbow" today. I tried reading it a couple of years ago in English, but found that with my skill in the language scraping through the book's thickets of text was very difficult. So I read it in Russian this time, hoping that it would be easier. I was wrong. The reading experience was a fucking rollercoaster, with slow and tedious climbing on the heaps of events, characters, references to the point of dozing off (yes, I actually fell asleep several times while reading it; I'm not even sure if some parts of the book were real or I just dreamt them) and then fast falling down from it, because it turns out none of them actually made much sense. And I'm not even sure what do I think about it. I kinda like it, but I liked "V." better (although I can't remember much from it either), I kinda hate it, but not as much as some crap like "Mr. Sammler's Planet" or "Jonathan Livingston Seagull". It didn't make any sense, but then again, did it really try to? Well, at least I don't regret the time wasted reading it.
No. 3556
I love Kafka. His works are really touching. I wasn't forced yet to read his works in school, so I did so on my own accord.
No. 3561
Will you shoot yourself in the heda?
No. 3562
Avoid Werther, that's for edgy teens. Reading Dramas sucks. Try "Die Wahlverwandschaften", that's for edgy teens pretending to be adults.
No. 3563
Noguns. But I definitely think about it during winter when there is no snow, only greyness.
Any by understanding I mean how I understand a lot of the text despite it being in German and not a translation. Three years baby, and it's finally paying off.
No. 3627
Sames. Die Verwandlung is probably my favourite, sounds like I've only read his most famous work like so many edgy teens do. But I read it in my mid twenties due to a recommendation by my psychiatrist (we were often talking about books and she recommended analyzing that one and try to understand at least two perspectives on the situation.

Now, if I had read other works by Kafka with the same attention they might also become favourites. Might do that at some point.

Another book that really touched me and that I analyzed with special attention was Der Steppenwolf from Herman Hesse. Can warmly recommend.
No. 3628
All of his novels are good. I read all of them with great joy.
The vanity that is the only way still. Jumping logic and just wortgewaltig and yet of such simplicity

Yet Kafka is not the first to employ such techniques of weird logic that tends to be uncanny. Dostoevsky Doppelgänger e.g, I also read that E.T.A has some pre-Kafa Kafka moments.
No. 3629
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No. 3630
I have read most of Kafka's shorter stories and "Der Verschollene"/"Amerika" which was a fantastic novel (sadly unfinished though). Haven't read the others yet but I have to enough to read anyways for now.
No. 3631
E.T.A.'s Goldene Blumentopf, I didn't enjoy it at all when I had to read it. Didn't even finish it. Maybe I should give it another try, since by now I completely given myself over to Romanticism.
No. 3638
E.T.A. Hoffmann is great, did you read him in german or translated?
I like "Ignaz Denner" a lot but "Der Sandmann" is a great all-time classic. That story really got stuck in my brain and I often think about it.
If I remember correctly Goethe thought that Hoffmann's work was shit and called him mentally ill. He was pretty unknown in Germany for quite a while, only the french loved him.
No. 3656
I had to read it translated. My literature teacher isn't exactly fond of me using foreign texts and sources.
I remember I wanted to write an essay on Chaucer and I told her I'd use an English edition, but I was scolded to use a Hungarian copy. Don't ask me why.
But if you say he is better in German, I might give it a try sometimes, especially now that I'm isn't forced to read him.
No. 3660
I also want to read at least Der Sandmann probably what he is most famous for.

I only read Des Vetters Eckfenster where the protagonists visits his cousin who never leaves his flat to to being disabled afaik and watches the weekly market from his window. Nothiing canny in it just watching people
No. 4060
Started reading Ernst Jünger's Auf den Marmorklippen yesterday night but can't tell a lot about it yet as I'm just at the beginning. But so far the prose is pretty beautiful and the scenery he describes really comfy(Otho, who probably impersonates his brother Georg Friedrich, and him live at some small rocky island at the Großw Marina river which is full of animals they live in harmony with and spend most of their time studying), I'm just somewhat afraid that I won't get all references he makes, should have gotten myself a new edition with commentary and not some used, cheap one from the 80s.
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In the end I've decided to read the Völsunga Saga, since my mind is probably already set on reading Germanic myths and the expressions left by the Nibelungenlied are still fresh.
Honestly, I was just expecting a prose retelling of the German Nibelung story, but there is a really stark contrast between the two so far.
The German version is missing parts and starts in a more in medias res way, and is also a lot more romanticized compared to the Icelandic version. Siegfried's character in the German version is this triumphant, perfect hero who is rich and strong, embodying the German ideal, while in the Icelandic, he is a lot more grey. The story itself feels a lot more complete and full with the inclusion of the whole family's story before Siegfried's.

I'm not sure about the Pagan elements. Odin makes a lot of appearances throughout the story, giving constant advice and changing the flow, while the Nibelungenlied is a lot more "human action" centred and Christian.
I haven't seen the ending yet, but I'd say so far it makes a bit more sense, but it's less "pure" in some aspects.
No. 4231
I've finished it. The ending wasn't as definitive as the Nibelungenlied's was, and the conflict itself felt forced.
I'm sad for Brünhild though. His relationship with Siegfried made a bit more sense. The begräbung scene here made more sense, and it was really moving.
No. 4438
I intend to read The Recognitions again shortly. Haven't thought about Gaddis in a long time so it should be fun.
No. 4444
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

I allways wonder, if I should read the Ilias/Iliad? Would that be a boring ancient war novel or is it still relevant like quite some classic stuff?
No. 4445
>Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Nice and enjoyable read.
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  1. crap (I was hoping to get something concise on SA but all I got was your typical short story of the Nazis, why they were bad, yada-yada)
  2. waste of time (a 354 page essay full of factoids and other garbage)
  3. [still reading] ok (as long as you know nothing about the shit, e.g. me)
No. 4466
are these academical books? they don't look like it. But wait, lel I maybe I had the Mr. Siemens as lecturer.

There are these sort of academical books that hit the sweet spot between being interesting and full of deep info without being absolutely stale.
No. 4467
Well, indeed. I had a seminar with him as lecturer.

The content description reads like it focuses on SA and not the nazis. ofc you will always have that as a foil.
No. 4468
I read the 2nd one, kinda wish I didn't.
By the 2nd one, whatever the long poem was.

It was kind of interesting.
No. 4469
Odyssey/Odysseia is the second one. People say because of Odysseus’s individuality it resonates better with modern people.
I’ve never read it. I think I was reading something else when it was asked of us at school.
No. 4470
Sven Hassel.
Bought a few of these books by this author, no regrets.
Fictional group of Nazi's survive being nazi's on pretty much every front, some humour.
Wonder what a Nazi apologist thinks of these, pretty light hearted.

For a good read try
Under the Frog
>The novel is a black comedy set in Hungary in the years immediately following the end of World War II and culminates in the 1956 uprising.
No. 4472
Yep, that's the one.
Good source material for a few old tv shows I have seen.

But something about going on a long boat journey, for years and years.
When we have the luxury of flight, just doesn't resonate.
There are a few flip handed comments, a few years spent hear.
Do I need to do spoilers.
So every one of his band die and he is the last one to survive, with a quick trip to Hades.

Does this still appeal to modern readers.
It is recommend to read the first one first, however I wish I would have read one of the other Viking/Scandinadi sagas instead.

I learned some things, but it is not relatable to an adult, maybe it would be better read as a child.
No. 4480
Afaik a lot of the poetic Edda's heroic songs are the same as the Völsunga Saga. Don't know about the God related songs. Never read those, but the Völsunga saga is pretty good. Not as good as the Nibelungenlied, but quite.
Homer's verse just doesn't flow as nicely as the AABB of the Nibelungs.
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Current reading: Guy Hermet - History of Nations and Nationalism in Europe

Only four chapters in, great book so far. I wanted to know more about the origins of nationalism as I was aware of the rise in romantic nationalism in the 19th century, but it was clear that the industrial revolution and its aftermath could not be the only factor in the birth of national identities as I had previously seen proposed.

Upcoming Reading list:
José Medeiros Ferreira - The Political Behaviour of the Military, Armed Forces and Political Regimes in 20th century Portugal.
Hopefully this will go deep into the army's attempts to maintain order through order in the chaotic First Republic.

Harry A. Miskimin - Economy of the European Renaissance (1300-1600), self evident title, I don't know why the only pics I found say 1450-1600 and late renaissance.

Ana Maria Cardoso de Matos - Science Tecnology and Industrial Development in 19th Century Portugal (The Case of Textiles in Alentejo), the failure of Portugal to become an industrialized nation interests me. I've read two books on this topic and they have different conclusions. Hopefully this one will shed more light on it.
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I've made mistake on the first picture. It was meant to be this one, see pic 1 on this post.

Additionally I've purchased History of Russia by Gregory L. Freeze.
Hopefully this will go nicely into the areas I have little to no knowledge about, particularly Kievan Rus and post-CCCP Russian history.
No. 4495
> the failure of Portugal to become an industrialized nation interests me. I've read two books on this topic and they have different conclusions. Hopefully this one will shed more light on it.
Portugal had no coal nor iron, simple as that. Sure one can consider the human side of things and so on. But up until the end of the 19th century, when hydro power was invented, nations without coal could only look at industrialization happening elsewhere. One had to at least be near some coal rich region and have mass transport means (railways and canals) to transport a lot of coal in order to industrialize. France was the only non-coal country with some access to it (from Belgium) thanks to that.
No. 4506
Portugal did have access to coal and iron, so the whole theory breaks apart at the seams.
No. 4511
Then why didn't south America became industrialised? Brazil had a lot of chances to do so.
To stay in thread. The last book I read was "the collapse of complex societies" by Tainter. One Ernst posted a link to his lecture and I decided to proceed with the book. Totally recommend it if you want to read about societies and don't want another political opinion. Or you can just watch his lecture on YouTube, the book only has some additional graphs and examples.
No. 4520
And where did it get it from? Because AFAIK closest source is north spain, but that wasn't enough even for Spain, and I doubt Spain (or even ally England or any other euro country for that matter) would be willing to sell it to Portugal and see it become an important power again. Plus, you needed massive amounts of it, which means you need mass transport to supply it, and this mass transport (canals, railways and bigger steam powered ships) could only be achieved with the same mass use of coal and iron to fuel the engines, build railways and ironclads. It's a retrofeeding system, and this is why countries with access to both coal and iron leaped so much ahead of everybody else. Cheap access to local good quality iron and coal made good engines and iron smelting possible, which created even better machines for iron smelting and coal burning possible, plus transporting of coal and iron to factories, which closed the cycle. Belgium, Germany, England and France are full of canals and railways today precisely because they needed them to transport massive amounts of coal. France used water wheels and then hydro power for electricity, I think they only used coal for smelting, because they had to get it from elsewhere (probably belgium), it's the only example of a non-coal country that managed to industrialize itself. But even then they suffered, historians say that "there was no industrial revolution in france but they did slowly industrialize throughout the 19th century". France's slow industrialization is also why the lagged behind in population if compared to Germany and England in that period.

BR has basically no coal. There's only a little bit of low quality coal in the pampas, it's only good for energy generation and wouldn't even last a decade if it was used as main source of fuel and energy for the pampas region only. I'm not saying that presence of coal will trigger second industrial revolution, China too has lots of coal that it historically used for its traditional industries, yet it never triggered any revolution in massive smelting of iron and energy production for transports. But coal was simply an absolute must, no coal means: no steam engines, no transport revolution, no source of energy (until the invention of hydro power) for industries, no smelting of iron.

São Paulo was the first place to industrialize in BR, and they did it only in the 20th century with the use of hydro power. Buenos Aires industrialized earlier, but they had to import coal from South Africa, and that made them quite uncompetitive.
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Portugal itself had functioning coal mines all the from the late 18th century.
The previous book I've read put the blame for the lack of industrialization in a mercantilism that maintained itself for far too long due to the necessity of maintaining a system of taxation on Brazil.
There was a nascent industrial sector in Portugal in the 18th century, particularly in textiles and bottling works. Several small factories cropped up in the late 18th century.
National industry would be practically entirely destroyed in the Peninsular War, with anything from windmills to entire towns being destroyed the halt the advance of the French troops.
What followed after this was the Portuguese civil war, which further contributed to the destruction of the infrastructure of the nation and a spike in national debt. This this adds the independency of Brazil that cut off a main source of revenue for Portugal during this very particular period.
After the civil war, the government was debt ridden and full of instability, Portugal was unable to maintain a national economy let alone improve it. By the later half 19th century, several attempts to industrialize the country were taken up, by the government, however Portugal itself was debt ridden and the government was unable to create a considerable amount of infrastructure, although this period marks the new genesis of industrial facilities in Portugal.
No. 4522
Additionally since you're a Portuguese speaker, this might interest you:

This particular company follows a very exemplary theme of other industrial projects in Portugal.
No. 4532
Very interesting stuff.
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pretty cool
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Finished reading pic related.
I'm in the #nazbolgang now.

If I want to be serious, it was quite a pleasant read. It isn't too hard on the brain, and like a nice cup of coffee it makes your heart beat a bit faster because of how he words stuff.

I don't exactly care for the ideology itself, I only read it because I got it for free, and because everyone likes to shit talk him based on third hand accounts of his Wikipedia page and shit they were taught 20-30 years ago, and I wanted to see for myself. Same reason why I wouldn't decline the chance to take a look at Mein Kampf in the physical.

I still want to read State and Revolution, then I think I'm about done with Leninism.
No. 5389
>I got it for free
And you still not belive? XD
No. 5390
He sketched this really big problem that banks indirectly control the industry through credit and funding, but he didn't write any solutions for that.
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I've been trying to torrent this book for a month now but so far no success. Where can I download it?

No. 6041

it's there as pdf and epub on a qucik glance
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I've decided to read soul mountain. It's excellent so far.
Nothing like the Chinese works I've read so far.
Feels more "personal" and "soul centred", like a Japanese novel.
I don't know what the English edition is like though, since I'm reading it in Hungarian. Been meaning to do so for a long time, since I was gifted this book by a teacher of mine.
Haven't read something Chinese in a while. Last time I did so, I was reading some Ming era novellas from the Kin Ku Ki Kwan.
No. 6067
Thank you, I finally found a place where I could download the memoirs of a Chinese high-ranking liberal
No. 6285
What does Ernst think of Julius Evola?

I've tried reading Revolt Against the Modern World, but good god, that tome is practically impenetrable. From what I've heard, reading Evola requires a solid knowledge of Plato, Plotinus, Marcus Aurelius, Epictetus, the New Testament, St Augustine, Meister Eckhart, the Bhagavad Gita, the Dhammapada, Guénon, Schuon, among others. I've also been told Evola should only be read after one fully knows the canon, and once grasped, reading Evola should simply be considered commentary on the source material.

Even so, the little I understood of Revolt Against the Modern World read like a Marija Gimbutas fantasy land for right-wingers. I can't say my experience with Evola's work was a complete waste, as Ride the Tiger was certainly far more accessible than Revolt. In any case, I found Ernst Jünger's Eumeswil far more rewarding.
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Unexceptedly, I've finished this book.
It taks place in present day, present time AHAHAHAHAHA :DDD the late 90s and is centered around deciphering messages, ciphered in times of WW2, which makes a parallel plot. There are math insertions, so it's also interesting as a brief view of cryptography and computers. The end is rushed a bit, but in overall, I can recommend this book.
No. 6301
Maybe because Jünger isn’t a giant meme like Evola is, but an actually competent writer.
No. 6314 Kontra
>Marija Gimbutas fantasy land

While some of her later books are heavily disputed, she was a well respected scientist, m8.
No. 6316
Haven't read all of Jünger but he is a meme somehow. His diaries were to boring for me. I read Afrikanische Spiele and it was ok, more like a non-soft Hesse in a way.
I would like to read Stahlgewitter tho.

If you like Jünger and or are interesed in WW2 I recommend Willy Peter Reese - Mir selber seltsam fremd During his Heimaturlaub he wrote done how he got into war after finishing and about his experience at the eastern front for a couple of years. I'd say he read Jünger.
No. 6317 Kontra
*finishing school
No. 6366
I've only read Stahlgewittern (in Hungarian), but it was a really good book.
What I meant was that Evola is a meme, because he isn't really the kind of author who has a positive image with academics and people generally, but the right likes him for whatever reason, while Jünger actually produced books that were not only "right wing", but also thoughtful. I wouldn't even call him a right wing author. He doesn't fit into any political category, mainly because he lived for so long and had so many perspectives.
You can't meme him, because he transcendes "being memed" through having a big body of works and being relatively obscure, so it's harder to get a "quick rundown" to repeat ad infinitum and turn into slogans.
No. 6367
Maybe no slogan but a meme in the sense of becoming a shining figure in the new right. An intellectual who had conservatives thoughts, also having a thing for (cosmic) mysticism or Schicksal which is an attribute that also correlates well with völkisch if you look into history and that is why he is concerned a right wing writer in Germany.
In Afrikanische Spiele he talks about being an anarchist inside maybe that is what you mean makes him not figure to paint in black and white

So he was made a meme.
No. 6371
Does the German right use him as an icon?
Haven't really seen him mentioned in that light anywhere else.
No. 6373
>Does the German right use him as an icon?

Not the bydlos ofc but the academics and the more educated ones. KC /l/ was full of people who wanted to discuss Jünger and were outright groupies. And /b/ was pretty much /pol/ during that time.
Carl Schmitt would be the other, tho he is not a novelist. The more unknown are not known to me.
No. 6428
Carl Schmidt is also extremely easy to identify as a full on racist, bigot and general miserable cunt who projects a lot.
Some of his ideas were sound, but he embedded them in his framework and always came to the solutions he liked rather than acting like someone who seeks truth. It's irritating and annoying to read his shit, much more so than Jünger, who is at least entertaining and somewhat skillful with the language.
No. 6468
I don't really know. Unlike Evola, I can take Jünger seriously for some reason.
Evola has this air of edgyness around him I don't like.
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The story of a Frenchy that had the brilliant idea [his words] to visit the USSR during holidays (1962)
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And while he was drunk, he accidentaly taked plane to saint petersburg from moscow and forgot about this, and found same house on same street but in different city and overall story was IRONIC?
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Oh no, up to now he and his wife have left Moscow and they only used their car.

Pic a book I reread recently. Curious, good stuff.
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Oh, my parents had some of his books, I read them as early teenager. He is a german-russian Bill Bryson.
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Nice, I hadn't noticed your post before, thanks.
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I'd say it lasts a chapter before the writing falls into an absolute shambles. I get why it is like this as it was written in a matter of weeks but as soon as the first spoopy thing happens the entire narrative coherence starts falling apart.

I know there have been a couple of movie adaptations made, are those any good? I'd like to put this book down and never return.
No. 7505
An introduction to capitalism with marxist analysis.

I watched Cosmopolis and then wanted to read the novel by DonDenilo but I just started the first pages and thought nah the film is enough for now.

I went to the library today and got Ernst von Salomons The Outlaws
It's a novel about the Freikorps after 1918 afaik. It was published by Rowohlt a famous german publishing house in 1930 so I guess he is some kind of Jünger. I could imagine it suits Jünger fans at least.
Both Ulrike Meinhof and Gudrun Ensslin, the RAF terrorists, read it. Esslin even wrote a letter to Salomon in the 50s or 60s.
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"Die Geächteten" definitely seems pretty interesting, but not every writer published in the 30s is some kind of Jünger only because most of them shared a somewhat common ideology. Literature during the times of national-socialsm was extremely diverse and had lots of different interesting authors. You might like to read about the literary magazine "Das Innere Reich" which saw itself as the counter-movement to emigrating intellectuals and stayed loyal to the german state. It's sad that most, if not all of its authors are forgotten by now and nobody wants to publish those hidden gems.
No. 7516
I don't really care about NS literature (and their gloryfications), my focus is on anti state and the outlaw theme here. And just to correct: The Outlaws was written and published before the Third Reich. Yet Salomon wrote pieces that were published in the 1930s.
No. 7522
Are you an expert on this literature magazine?
I read the wiki article on Das Innere Reich and there is a Croatian poet listed as an author for the Innere Reich. I tried to google but I couldn't find anything besides the German wiki article that links him to the Innere Reich periodical.



If you have any infa on this I'd be thankful.
No. 7527
I'm just getting into it (and reading a novel from one of the publishers, Mechow) but I believe that there generally aren't too much experts on it.
From what I got from the wikipedia articles it really sounds kind of weird though because Kovačič suppusodely became famous through his poem Jama which described the horrors of war. As far as I know the majority of the authors from "Das Innere Reich" were soldiers in WW1 themselves and didn't have any problems with realistically depicting their experience, but still they didn't necessarily see it as a bad thing. That the guy was fighting for Tito and wrote about the cruelties of the Ustaša doesn't really fit either, but then again the magazine might have changed throughout the years (not to mention that Kovačič joined the partisans in the '42, who knows if he maybe wasn't more right leaning before) and all kind of writers generally always had contact to others, so it may as well be that some writer from "Das Innere Reich" read something from Kovačič or even was personally writing with him and liked it, maybe even one of the publishers themselves. Even authors of all kind of different political views stayed in contact so really it doesn't have to mean much that he was on the other side during the war. Rudolf G. Binding for example, also a famous writer from the said literary magazine, was writing a lot with Hesse and as far as I know even personally knew Klaus and Thomas Mann. So most of what I said is mere speculation, but my best guess would be that he somehow found his way into the magazine while it doesn't sound very typical.
Maybe if I get my hands on some of the magazines or a scientif work on that topic I might be a able to tell you more.
No. 7538
The Federalist Papers. So far they are trying to use fear to get the readers to be in favor of a united federation. It's pretty boring too. They elaborate more then necessary to bring their point across imo.
>Here are 20 nitpicked reasons why having independent states would lead to instant and brutal civil war
I mean they are mostly correct, a unified country is more secure against internal as well as external threats but I don't like how they go about trying to convince people.
No. 7609

>That the guy was fighting for Tito and wrote about the cruelties of the Ustaša doesn't really fit either.

Exactly what triggered me, he also had a jewish mother which makes it even more weird.
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He didn do nuthing!

English drug smuggler "framed" by Russian customs in Moscow airport (2003), winds up in Mordovia gulag for foreigners

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>I don't like how they go about trying to convince people
From The Federalist 15:
>IN THE course of the preceding papers, I have endeavored, my fellow-citizens, to place before you, in a clear and convincing light, the importance of Union to your political safety and happiness. I have unfolded to you a complication of dangers to which you would be exposed, should you permit that sacred knot which binds the people of America together be severed or dissolved by ambition or by avarice, by jealousy or by misrepresentation.
They use fear as a hook, and then 50 papers later Hamilton is explaining mundane details like why the President should be elected every four years. I enjoy the old long-winded political writing style, but it still has the same appeal to emotion as our current 15 second soundbites.
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  1. well, I'm not sure I'd join the crowd who say it's a must read if you're interested in the Vietnam War; it's a nice book, probably even great but, to my taste, the author fails at conveying some of his thoughts (e.g. I didn't really get his point why LBJ had decided to get in the thick of the whole shit - yeah, "Deep State", "that's how System works" yada-yada and yet it didn't sound solid), anyway I'd recommend the book even to those who hardly know anything about the war
  2. it was a worthwhile read, I didn't mind author's (at times pretty groundless) assumptions for Luther's motives and stuff but, at the same time, I find Lyndal Roper's book on Luther to be better, still a pretty enjoyable read
No. 8856
I've been reading Chingiz Aitmatov's "The Day Lasts More Than a Hundred Years", beautiful book, gives me shivers sometimes.

Plan to read "Sandro of Chegem" by Fazil Iskander next.
And "Manaraga" by Russian post-modernist writer Vladimir Sorokin
No. 9702
I've read Roadside Picnic yesterday in one go. Very simple language, although I think I've got myself a first Polish translation, and the old Polish was giving it a nice vibe.

Very easy but satisfying read, atleast for me - didn't read anything in two years or so.

I recommend, good story. The only thing that there's in common with Stalker games is, well, the stalkers are there and zone is too. Kinda. And that's about it.

If anyone could recommend easy reads like that for me, I'd be happy to read them!
No. 9706
perhaps just some other scifi?

Kafka is simple language but his novels and stories are pretty much enigmatic

I've read bits and pieces for my paper. Some poems by Stefan George and a lyrical play by Hugo von Hofmannsthal which was translated into English as Death and the Fool were the fool has to discern that he wasted his life and never really lived or felt life he only read books about it. But the intensity of his last hours, when he has the dialog with death make up to it and he rejoices death as the turn maker who lets him live what he always wanted, to truly feel life.
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This was pretty good.
The writing isn't "pretty", but the initial goal I think was to paint a contemporary picture in both setting, characters and language. The entire thing feels like one big sentence, a far fetched thought, with every smaller sentence beginning somewhere during the previous sentence, and they all cling into one another, forming a giant mishmash of nonsense that exist purely to exist, so that there is more than nothing, to keep the quite away.
Tell you the truth, it does feel realistic. It really is contemporary. Parts of it can be heard on buses on the lips of the people. It's almost surreal how close it is to the general thought process of your average joe youngster, even if a good 20 years have passed and some thing changed.
Maybe it's a bit dated now, but I'd say it's because we've left behind that awkward proto-digital era where relations broke down a bit, and now through the threads of social media we've pulled the people ever closer together, knitting with said threads this ever greater Frankenstein's Monster that has no honesty and genuine passion in it. Existing purely to avoid non-existence.
It's somewhat dated because the current generation gave up the need for genuine passion and genuine souls. Nobody cares. "Life sucks. Then you die."
Frightening stuff.
No. 9766
Both Lem and Strugatski brothers fit well.
Also check classical american sci fi. I think for beginning "Martian chronicles" by Bradbury and "i, robot" by asimov would fit the best
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Today I finished "Die Chronika des fahrenden Schülers" by Clemens Brentano. It was a really beautiful read, full of christian romanticism, nature, tragedy, knights and maidens. One sentence was so intense I suddenly almost started crying on the bus. Sadly Brentano didn't finish it, would have been an interesting novel. Another thing I like about the text was the high amount of subplots (for instance a character tells a story and in this story a character tells his own story etc.) which seems to be a common thing in his works and creates a really cozy atmosphere.
Now I'm not sure what to read next, but most probably it will be "Die schwarze Spinne" by Jeremias Gotthelf.
No. 9798 Kontra
>Another thing I like about the text was the high amount of subplots

one or more layers of embedded stories were more common back then in contrast to today I think.

The classic example is persian 1001 Nacht tales
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Me? I am reading a book about anecdotes from Barcelona. Don't remember the title
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Chaucer's Canterbury Tales
No. 9870
>plenty of bees
We found the source of bee serfdom
No. 9871
Reading parts of David Lowenthals 1997 Possesed by the Past where he renders a difference between heritage and history.

Guess what, imageboards are 99% of the time about the former which has more or less nothing to do with the latter
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>The Hungarian's characterization
Hits too close to home.
Delete this.
No. 9879
I am actually wondering if this is the serious of Communists shooting Ukrainians for eating bees
No. 9880
>imageboards are 99% of the time about the former which has more or less nothing to do with the latter
Elaborate, please?
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He's basically pointing out that 99% of the time it's just burger tier muh heritaging with no regard at all for history. Case in point, you have a bunch of poltards bitching about say Christianity and acting everyone should revert to a smattering of ancient tribal religions. These sorts of people like to completely and utterly disregard a thousand years of history. It's often Americans doing it, who in turn ignore 200 years of our history as Americans, when it all really boils down to some kind of absolutely fucktarded Wiccan larping that absolutely shits all over their own history. That is but one example.

The problem is the muh heritage types are the dumbest, most ignorant people I've ever talked to except maybe select New Ager UFO faggotry, however I suspect a lot of them are also suffering from a variety of mental disorders and drug addictions to at least help explain it. I mean these are the kinds of people who will do shit like claim Star Trek and Star Wars are "too SJW and anti-Nazi now" despite literally always being pro-liberal democracy, or somehow not understanding that Republicans are way more pro-Zionist than Democrats. It is not just total ignorance of far history, but also their complete ignorance of even 5 years ago. This is because a majority of those people are also literal children so from the undeveloped perspective 5 years is ancient history and 10 years ago is prehistoric.

And by all that I mean to draw your attention to the fact that using the internet as a basis for sweeping generalizations generally runs into this problem particularly in talking about discussions of "history" vs heritage. There's a reason why so many idiots on the internet are like this and it's usually coming from Plastic Paddy 14/88s mutts. Which is funnier still because in a sense they can't even genuinely discuss heritage either, hence why they often revert to the most idiotic Disneyfied stereotypes of what they think ancient Europeans did because they saw it on TV.
No. 9893
>It's often Americans doing it,
You're doing the same thing by assuming that Americans do this more often than others. Americans do this quite less than slavs, chinks, japs, germans, Italians. It might be just a novel concept to you. In here this kind of people even have their
No. 9894
Fug my mistake, pushed reply button accidentally.
In here this type of people even have huge representation in politics. It's the whole reason butthurt belt exists, why Russia is evil and etc.
People basically don't like to learn from history. They like to see their pride and excuses there. And we are currently passing through quite virtual era with many troubles we don't know how to solve. So many people turned to their ancestry.
No. 9897
people who learn history from blogs and video games are biggest cancer there is.

they always manage to be retarded somehow.

also wtf is gender history? don't expect someone who follow ranke school care about it, annales school generally forced it really.
No. 9898
I've started reading Ortega's Revolt of the Masses. Nothing eye opening so far.
Still have an epic poem to go for schoolwork. I'll listen to it in an audiobook format because I have a cold again and my head hurts. No way I can absorb it through reading.
Or just sit down and read it anyway. That'll do. Fuck the audiobooks.
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I really need to read more scifi

>After briefly contemplating suicide, Mandella assumes the post of commanding officer of a "strike force", commanding soldiers who speak a language largely unrecognizable to him, whose ethnicity is now nearly uniform ('vaguely Polynesian' in appearance) and who are exclusively homosexual. He is disliked by his soldiers because they have to learn 21st century English to communicate with him and other senior staff, and because he is heterosexual.
This also would be a lot funnier if KC still existed

Also to the brick, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock although frankly I think there is too much ideological confusion of technology with Capitalist modes of industry, and likewise would say the problem with Soviet literature was probably the same, the difference being that Sovoks acknowledged party loyalty and ideological purity as a thing, whereas Capitalist societies tend to normalize these values and take them for granted, pretending that's "just the way things are" while promoting and enforcing the ideology. Although
>To follow transient jobs, people have become nomads. For example, immigrants from Algeria, Turkey and other countries go to Europe to find work. Transient people are forced to change residence, phone number, school, friends, car license, and contact with family often. As a result, relationships tend to be superficial with a large number of people, instead of being intimate or close relationships that are more stable. Evidence for this is tourist travel and holiday romances.
Isn't this essentially the exact same thing that happened in the Soviet Union?
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Can Ernst reccomend reading The Riftwar Cycle by Raymond E. Feist? I want read it first, before playing Betrayal at Krondor videogame but don't know if is to worth it?
No. 10729
Last thing I read was an essay on Japanese aesthetics by Junichiro Tanizaki called "In Praise of Shadows". While I would agree with the sentiment that it is nice for things to be unpolished and show wear and tear & dimly lit places have their special appeal, it read like the ramblings of an old writer who is struggling to write something because he just doesn't know how to do anything else. I also read his novel "The Key" by him some time ago and found it rather contrived, though I enjoyed it a bit more. But I must conclude that I don't really like Tanizaki.

Other than that I only listened to a business audiobook recently, "Zero to One" by Peter Thiel. It was really just the same stuff he always says in interviews: technological progress is the most important thing ever, the educational system is fucked, "what's an important truth few people agree with you on?" yadda yadda
It's rather uncanny how he always tells the same stories & anecdotes.

I want to read something good again, but my heda feels too fucked right now.
Actually a few days ago I woke up with an idea for a story and made some notes about the characters in the middle of the night, so I might rather write something. Just thinking about it already gives me a headache
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After finishing Walpurgisnacht by Gustav Meyrink (a great and underrated writer, his depiction of Prague is beautifully feverish and intense) I read Die Marquise von O. by Heinrich von Kleist, which was a nice read (even though the long sentences packed with informations are not that easy to read if you're not used to it) but didn't get me as much as Michael Kohlhaas. Other than that I've been reading a practical introduction into journalism today, but only a few pages as a lot of the information is banal but still important. Also occasionally I'm reading Ovid's Ars Amatoria, it's fun and useful but I progress slowly as I generally do when reading non-fiction. Tonight I'll start reading Houellebecq's Submission, I wanted to read something by him for a long time but always had other priorities, but now I feel like I'm in the right mood for it, also it seems like an easy read.
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Read two short novellas by Paul Heyse, L'Arrabbiata and Helene Morten. The first one was about a young fisherman and a poor girl finding love, but before they came together he threatened to kill her and himself and she bit his hand and seriously injured him this way. Funny and technically beautiful work, but nothing special. The second one was about a practical tradesman marrying a beautiful and intellectual young girl, after a while she got unhappy so he let her talk to another intellectual friend which made her happy but him jealous so he went away for two weeks without answering her letters. To prove him her love she sailed away to get find some of his ships (I won't explain this sub-plot), but as she'd always get seasick she died after finding the ships only after him coming back, knowing that he lost the one who really loved him. Sounds like kitsch, I know but it really moved me. The whole story was embedded in the narrators telling about staying on the countryside, where he found an old abandoned but beautiful building, in which an old man lived who told him his story - the husband of the famous Helene Morten. Really tragical story, would recommend.

It's as tragical that Heyse is almost forgotten, being one of the most well-known and liked authors in the 19th century. He wasn't only a great writer but also a gentleman, who would often host literary conventions and knew a lot of authors and helped everyone he knew. Everyone liked him, Fontane went as far as to think that after the Goethe-age, there would be a period called the Heyse-age. History truly is weird sometimes.
No. 11181
“Plausible Fairytales, or Wandering Around the World in the XXIX Century” Thaddeus Bulgarin, 1824

>...At that time professor's wife with two lovely daughters and a young son came in. Women were dressed in tunics made of woven matting, and dyed in iridescent colors. A boy of 10 wore a home robe. Each woman had a leather fan in her left hand, covered with an impenetrable varnish, to hide from immodest eyes, armed with telescopic glasses, which were in great fashion among men. The madam said a few words to me in an unknown language, but when she saw that I did not understand, she asked in Russian do I speak Arabic.
“No,” I replied, “in our time, very few scientists have been studying this language.”
“This is our diplomatic language, and it's quite popular” said the professor, “just like French was for you.”
Women could not hide a smile with these words, and the eldest daughter asked me:
“Could it be possible for your ladies had to speak French, monotonous, almost boring sounding and artistically poorest of all languages?”
“In our times,” I answered, “the ladies spoke Russian only with lackeys, coachmen and maids, and they exhausted all their wisdom in imitating French pronunciation. Those who did not speak French,” I continued, “were revered by the ignorant in the big light, although sometimes it happened that those of the Russians who always spoke to each other in French were the greatest ignoramuses.
“All this is repeated now with us,” said the professor, “with the only difference that the French language in our time is the same as Finnish was for you, and the rich, sonorous and flexible Arabic language has replaced the French.”
No. 11184
There's quite a list of books I'd really really like to read but will never read because of both a demanding schedule and a lack of vital energy. These are: Plato's Dialogues, Seneca's Moral Epistles, Virgil's Eclogues (or Aeneid?), maybe some basic Aristotle (Nicomachean Ethics specifically), but the most significant items on this list are (1) the Hindu Upanishads and (2) the works of Bahá'u'lláh, ba'hai sacred texts; these are extremely profound.
I've watched the 2018 movie about Salinger just recently and actually thought about re-reading Catcher in the Rye again (last read it ~16 years ago), but upon opening it I've found that any sort of storytelling or fiction simply doesn't work for me; zero motivation to follow any sort of a plot, after a history of intense immersion in classical texts like the ones named above.
No. 11186
>Plato's Dialogues
Most of them are really short, so you can take it slow and read one at a time.
No. 11187
It could be possible to read them in 1-2 years without putting too much effort into it I imagine. A big book per month, 1h a day or just 5 days a week.
No. 11193
Reading Feldpost war mail from students during WW1.

It's basically incomprehensible for people like us. I mean not that I did not dream of engaging and dying in war before...but in the end it's so low and far away from being heroic or meaningful.
There was a long peace period before WW1 not as long as today but I think people would go for the same trap as young people did back then. Not sure if people in war areas today felt the "european" feel before action took place.
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It's primarily because the concept of warfare changed tremendously with WWI, and this would be something that would change not only attitudes towards war, but societal values surrounding war itself. War suddenly became far more macabre than ever before. The spirit of societies itself changed, war could no longer be seen as a noble activity. It became far more of a gruesome activity in which the nation that could withold the most torturing and bleeding would win. It is not a coincidence that it was during WWI that the idea of the "home front" appeared.

It was the most tragic and gamechanging event in terms of warfare of all time, although I might be biased since I'm a WWI autist. Although I am a WWI afficionado because it really is a clash between the Europe of old and the macabre reality of modern warfare.
No. 11199
Finally dived into the libretto of Wagner's Nibelungenlied interpretation.
It's the prettiest thing I've ever read so far.

At first it seemed intimidating, but then after a closer examination I've realized that the characters are the same, and only the names are changed around, like Odin => Wotan, Loki => Loge, Thor => Donner, Völsung => Wälsung

Of course, if this was my first dive into the world of the epic, I would have been lost completely. It definitely "demands" a lot from the reader.
I've decided to read a play a day, so I'll be over it in four days, just like when it's played in Bayreuth. So far it has been two days, I've read Das Rheingold and Die Walküre. Tomorrow I'll be reading Siegfried, and on Friday Götterdämmerung.

I don't know what makes this epic circle so touching. It just resonates well with me for some reason.
No. 11203
I'd say it's a bias since only the numbers changed and a complete lack of movement of fronts. The idea of home fronts is also silly since it isn't like warfare wasn't previously stealing people's land and rasping their women and murdering all their males.
No. 11205
You are simplifying it to an absurd degree. Yes, numbers changed, numbers always change.
But what matters is which numbers change. In WW1 the problem was that the firing capabilities evolved far beyond mobility or armour, so whoever attacked, suffered atrocious losses.
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Recently read pic related. It was my first encounter with Far-East literature so far and I find the Japanese way of story-telling both, appealing and odd. My edition was a collection of 18 short stories and while they were all pleasant to read in terms of language and style, there have been a few that additionally to being well-written I will probably remember for the rest of my life, and be honest Ernst, how many of the books you may have read even just not so long ago have you forgotten already.
[Spoiler] if you should decide to give it a try, I'd recommend you to have a glass of wine and a cigarette after the story 'Hell Screen'. You are going to need it. [/spoiler]
No. 11209 Kontra
self-contra for spoiler failure
No. 11210
Excellent. Akutagawa was my introduction into Japanese literature too. I was given a copy by a teacher to read.
Made me fall in love with Japanese literature.
No. 11212
Would you have another recommendation for me? Because I just stumbled upon that one in a book shop and no idea even where to start. And since I'm spending a considerable amount of my life in public transportation, my ebook reader has become my loyal companion.
No. 11213
Well, you can always try and look for more of his novellas. And he also wrote a book titled Kappa, which is essentially his suicide note.
If you are looking for contemporaries, then there is Natsume Soseki, he is the father of Japanese literature. I only read a novel of his titled The Gate, it's an excellent work. He wrote many others like Botchan, or I am a cat. Then if you want to go psychological, then there is Dazai Osamu's No Longer Human, the single best selling book to date in Japan. That's a good one, if a bit depressive. (By bit I mean a lot.)

Then you could also try with Junichiro Tanizaki's works, but those are a bit more raw as far as I know. Not as elegant. The Key is a borderline pornographic novel of his. Or there is the book Some prefer nettles. He also wrote a novel that deals with the cultural clash of east vs west, titled Naomi

Now if you want to look at peak elegance and the best of Japanese literature (in my opinion), then you might find refuge in Kawabata Yasunari's works. Touching stories, elegantly worded prose, almost every line is a haiku. The first nobel prize winner from Japan. From him I'd recommend Snow Country, The Master of Go and The Lake.
He also wrote teeny-tiny novellas, called Palm of the Hand Stories. Most of them are less than a page long, but they do carry the essence of his work.

A good friend of his was Mishima Yukio, who's also an excellent writer, if a bit more traditional and political. If you can separate politics from Mishima's works, then you have a top tier writer who bets all his worth on aesthetics, even his life is like a piece of art.
He wrote dramas (My friend, Hitler, Madam de Sade and an adaptation of your beloved Hell's screen) and novels like Temple of the Golden Pavilion and The sailor who fell from grave with the sea.

You don't have to read or like all of them, if you don't find them enjoyable, just try with the next one. Thankfully, most of them left behind a considerably body of work, so if you like one of them, you can always come back for seconds. (And we are only scratching the surface with names.)
No. 11240
I personally didn't find earlier Mishima novels (Confessions of a Mask, Thirst for Love, Forbidden Colors) very political, so maybe it's better to start with them, if we're talking about his works.
No. 11261
Thanks a bunch! I got myself No longer Human now will start reading it after I finished Olga by Berndhard Schlink what I'm currently reading.
No. 11262
Well, I am thinking about Bulgakov (I read it 2-3 years ago, but he's really cool for me)
No. 11264
Almost done with Wagner's tetralogy.
I want to cry, it's so beautiful, even if I'm only reading it as a drama.
It's also interesting to see how Siegfried is a bit of a prick in his version imho.
I think I'm in love with this version (too).
No. 11539
After finishing Houellebecq's Submission, which is a great and sometimes outright hilarious novel by the way, I'm halfway through with Platform now. It doesn't get me as much as Submission did (I think the combination of obscene sex scenes, discussions of islamism and the new right and french decadent literature was perfect for me) but it's still a nice read, the text on the back of the book sadly already spoilered that there will be a terror attack happening so I'm sort of waiting for it. The description of sex-tourism in Thailand was great however but in the middle of the book the story is getting sort of stale after the protagonist started a relationship. Still it's also incredibly comfy and gives you a lot of insight into what M.H. thought about the tourism industry of the early 00s. I've read that some of his readers especially like him for the essayistic parts of his novels and I like them as well. Don't let yourself be fooled by the hype, he really deserves it.
No. 11551
>however but in the middle of the book the story is getting sort of stale after the protagonist started a relationship.
Is life not worth living without pointless strife and conflict? Is this why people start and maintain ill advised and pointlessly destructive affairs?
No. 11565
Atomised is the best book by houlebecq as for me. Submission is quite good in a way that it's describes well how politics and submission itself works, but still too much fictional.
No. 11755
Recently finished Turgenev's Notes of a Hunter. It was my first encounter with Turgenev's and i enjoyed it very much. Felt a bit like Hemingway.
Currently reading a series of crime fiction novels by Jean-Luc Bannalec. It's light entertainment, but good light entertainment. No political opinions in there and the characters aren't cliché.
No. 12419
Just want to get thru Der Wanderer zwischen beiden Welten by Walter Flex, I got it in the mail today for literature class on WW1/WW2 war-themed novels.

It's so fucking kitschy that I sometimes had trouble to hold back laughter. It's a cross of propaganda and German boy scout romanticism. How can some new right publishers actually repress it as something to read today? This book was a massive sell in 1917 I have the 5th printing which is also from 1917! and following, but reading it today really makes one aware that the past is a foreign country. How could you read this today and say: yes that's it. Even as a new righter. Jünger is up next tho and the writing skill will be different, I'm really excited to see which words he will use to paint the war and war experience.
No. 12447
I'm through with 70 pages Ian Macdonald's The New Shostakovich
The post-revolutionary intellectual life truly was hell. Constant fights between the government, the proletariat artistic associations, and the old fashioned institutions that slave away under the new Bolshevik regime, trying to survive and make sense of what just happened in October.

Just the thought that if I were a writer at the time and the cheka could come up to my door and "question" me for my writing being "not socialist enough" makes me terrified and pale as snow.

I'm interested how the later chapters develop. The first one seems overly interesting.
No. 12449
>I'm through with 70 pages Ian Macdonald's The New Shostakovich

Interesting. Please elaborate on neat findings within the book.
No. 12457
Currently reading Der Wehrwolf by Hermann Löns, a novel set during The Thirty Years' War about a group of agonized farmers taking up the brutal fight against raiders and other fiends. So far it's very beautiful, well written, a lot of archaic words and dialect. The farmers' everyday life is written about very authentically, maybe a bit romantic but not all romanticizing. It reminded of Michael Kohlhaas more than once as the first of many injustices that happened to the main protagonist, the farmer Harm Wulf, was that his horse got stolen. Also the book itself is centered around the theme of good men being forced to become cruel during curel times after having been treated cruel themselves, so that's a similiarity too. Before reading the book I sort of had the prejudice that it would be a very brutal novel (mostly fed by the knowledge that it sold very well during WW2 and that it was given to hitler youth soldiers to read shortly before the end of the war) but actually it has a lot of anacreontic elements in it as well, which I especially like. Like, between the horrible happenings of war, there are still moments of love, wine and happiness.
No. 12487 Kontra
>given out to soldiers during ww2

They often had edited works I could imagine. The Walter Flex book I talked about has nearly no cruelty in it, war is just a big boy scoutish adventure but he "sadly" loses a comerade who is talked about in a mastubatory way tbh which confuses him, but that's seen has bad anyway.
A novel like yours maybe is to depict an ideal that should came back, something to fight for?
No. 12490
It tries to elaborate on the fact that he wasn't a communist, but rather a cynical Holy Fool who only worked with the government out of compromise and a fear for his life.
The main argument is that he comes from a family of narodniks who were more democratic than the Bolsheviks.
So far it talked about the second symphony's conception, and how it was a compromise between him needing cash, the "Bourgeoisie" musicians' longing for something structurally modern, and the Russian Association of Proletarian Musician's demands to make it a "Workmen's music".
So the Intelligentsia got the first part, representing a cavalcade of sounds, trying to mimic revolutionary chaos, and the RAPM got the second part with the chorus glorifying Lenin, all written in a hasty manner to get some money.

Honestly, it's pretty good, packed with information, and it's well written.
This is a lot more colourful and interesting than the "Soviet, un-Russian composer"'s image my teacher told me.
No. 12546
Sounds good
No. 12549
I've read Beowulf a while ago, and brushed it off as a primitive narrative that's neither pretty or interesting, but is rather important from a linguistic standpoint.
Though I might have been wrong. I'll re-read that sometime and judge it again.

Anyway, already through about half of The Song of Roland.
Fantastic work. I like the heroic portrayals, the language, the battle description.
It's great.
(This is only a weekend read, because it's short. On weekdays I'm still reading the Shostakovich biography)
No. 12601 Kontra
What's the point of reading when there are movies?
No. 12702
To be honest, I like that reading takes more time than watching a movie. True, you might receive a bigger amount of information while watching a movie than you would while you would read a book in the same amount of time. But personally I believe sometimes it feels good to lean back and purposely slower yourself down. Life has become so fast and stressful these days, especially when you are living in a city and we are constantly exposed to way more stimuli than we could possibly 'digest' (in lack of a better word). While reading, it doesn't matter if you pause in between two pages for a minute or two just to process what you just read or think about a chapter for the rest of the day, while a movie is meant to be watched as a whole.
Reading is taking a break somehow, yet being entertained.
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There no point. Reading is sucks! Go eat more your daily burgers god bless.
No. 12725
Hamlet, but I need to concentrate to understand and enjoy the olde time language.
Going to buy some SAS/Special forces fiction after this.
No. 13072
Reading Paul Heyse's Andrea Delfin at the moment, a novella set in late 18th century venice where an aristocrat, not being actually guilty of anything, lost his family and life because of the malevolent venetian inquisition. After hiding in Brescia under the Name of Andrea Delfin and working as a notary he decides to get his revenge on the inquisition and returns to venice where he lets himself get recruited by the inquisition and starts murdering their people. It's really great so far, the writing is superb and the depiction of the city of Venice is extremely well done as well. Also it's unexpectedly thrilling and intriguing and the overall atmosphere is something I like a lot too. Now that I think of it, this would make a good tv-show nowadays, especially as 18th and 19th century settings seem to be en vogue.
Won't lose too much words on Heyse himself as I already did that in one of my former posts, but slowly finishing the collection of novellas I own I was looking around for some more books by him and the situation is worse than I imagined it. Almost no-one is publishing his works anymore, besides the usual copy-paste no-name publishers. Obviously there's a lot on the antiquary book market but every single book has old german script. I never really bothered getting used to reading it but now I have no other choice. Especially as Heyse wrote some novels (like Kinder der Welt or Gegen den Strom) as well which sound pretty interesting.
Also there are other older authors I want to read who aren't published anymore so it seems like I'll need to get through with it. I mean, I can read it but it seems like it will be a pain in the ass reading a book in fraktur for the first time, but the possibilities I'll have afterwards will be definitely worth it.
No. 13102
Does anybody use Goodreads?

If so, what do you think about an EC group there?

This thread is good enough for discussing, but there you can snoop more easily what others read and there's the possibility of good old low-effort social media dopamine kicks ("liking")
No. 13104
I do, but I only use it for recommendations, because I'm allergic to anything "social". Why do you care what others read, anyway? If they read it and liked it, they can make post about it here describing their impressions, so other Ernsts could decide if that book interests them. If they didn't like it, they just forget about it.
No. 13107
Fraktur is rather easy. It will just take a little longer to read once you know most letters. I had to read book in Fraktur with 17 the first time. Probably takes an hour or more to get used to most of it. Some letters are still a mystery to me today - I've read quite a handful by now - but you have to guess then from the rest.
No. 13129
I've finished Machiavelli's "Discourses" yesterday, it was a very interesting read. Much wider and more general than "The Prince", though it's been a while since I read that. All the examples he used from Roman history pleased my autism. Alas, the eras he talks about with all the city-states and constant turmoil were quite different from ours.
While some of the principles he talks about might be timeless, a lot of the ideas about warfare seem out of date, though his method of thinking might still be transferable.

Then I picked up "Human, All Too Human" by Nietzsche which coincidentally I left off at the chapter on "Man in Society" so it was a pretty hilarious contrast how carelessly Nietzsche treats the Romans, talking about "dull Roman patriotism" etc., compared to the reverent and scholarly Machiavelli.
I have to admit, there are few writers that really stimulate me to think about what I'm reading like Nietzsche. There's just something about his way with words, the astuteness and brevity and how his thoughts reach pretty much into the current day that makes his writings still seem very contemporary.
No. 13134

He is quite a modern person, as he opts for anti establishment/tradition. Everybody who was anti-establishment around 1900 had a fucking copy of Nietzsche.
Modernity is not over, maybe the big meta narrative of constant "progress". In sofar we might be postmodern. but the fragmentation is still there, the relation between individual and society was similar 150-100years ago, at least that's when people noticed something is changing. We still have lines of continuance next to things that come out of the blue or that have been aborted.

Also Nietzsche is a vitalist, quite a luring philosophical position, even today. Nietzsche can be read like a prison breaker from stale established life forms in (western) comfort.
No. 13177
That sounds interesting will give it a read.

Regarding Ancient military tactics which are vague you read Sun Tzu, both very brief but I like tha almost bullet point paragraphs.
No. 13247
This thread is pure gold infa 100%

This got me interested but it seems like it's never been translated to another language which is making me sad. Do you think there is a chance that a translated copy can be found somewhere? I am considering learning german to get a piece of this and other german literature which has no english translation.

The book Die Bosniaken Kommen written by an Austrian WW1 soldier who fought along with yugoslavian/bosnian regiment is another book i want to read. But shamelessly it only has a serbo-croatian translation and I want to learn more about this supposed mixed division of serb,croat and muslim.
No. 13852
Where could I find this article for free?

I really want to read it.
No. 13854
615 kB, 21 pages
I found it on libgen.io. They have a lot of articles from various journals. File attached.
No. 13862
Thank you. I'm IQ89 when it comes to pirating books and articles, I just don't know where to look for.
No. 13864
libgen.io for books, sci hub for articles with DOI


just copypast the DOI or adress of the article into the mask, then enjoy the pdf
No. 13878
Protip for sci-hub: Create a new bookmark in you bookmark bar with the following code instead of an URL:

javascript:location.href = location.origin.replace(/^https/, 'http') + '.sci-hub.tw' + location.pathname + location.search

Then you just click on it once you're e.g. on the page in >>13852 and it automatically takes you to the sci-hub page. Works great 99% of the time
No. 13980
Thanks, but it was a shitty read, I'm disappointed, not going to bother with this author again.
No. 14061
No. 14170
This is a much better paper talking about related issue

but instead of talking about Chile, it talks about Japan and China, still the discussion is also about liberalism vs developmentalism. Very much worth the read.
No. 14171 Kontra
Also forgot to say that the paper also seems to have lots of interesting names in the bibliography for those who want to read more about the subject.
No. 14337
I remember how I readed Raptor Red.
First about book - it kind of fictiin but with science basis. It describe life of one dinosaur female from perspective of her instincts, to show readed life of typical animal in that time period and what problems and issues they encountered.

Well I readed it on Physics lesson back in high school. It was not profile lessons for our class and it was late when everyone already picked and prepeared to final goverment exams on their profile stuff and basicly our cource of physics ended so teached mostly talk with class about life things. It was one of the last lessons. And when teacher spotted I readed something - she asked what it is. I answered that it book about dinosaurs. She asked if it science book. I answered that it more fictional. With smile she asked rithoric question about if I not too old for this kind of books. All class laughed and I felt hell lot of shame. And yes I readed it because it was about dinosaur girl.
No. 14343
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Gurkha by Kailish Limbu, it was added to an order for free.

It's written by a Gurkha and regards his account of a particularly fierce siege in Afghanistan in 2006. I'm not really that interested in that war though, he did mention that the Gurkha selection process only accepts one in every thousand applicants though which is interesting.
No. 14741
What are the best European, preferably French, comics/graphic novels?

I've got an archive on mega.nz from a thread on the old Ernstchan, but I don't like any of it. The artwork is usually cringy and bad, half the stories are about Nazi mysticism, and the other half are boring or cringy fantasy.
No. 14743
You could try browsing through libgen, it has a comics section. I think your main issue is going to be finding ''translated'' comics, since unlike japshit there's no huge mass of retards to machine translate all the comics.
No. 14744
Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm learning French, and can already read it quite well, which is why I'm looking for French comics. If I was reading for pure pleasure I'd just go find a good manga, the Japs are better writers in general IMO.
No. 14746
Goodreads has comic lists in different languages. Maybe just look at one of those and download the comics that look decent off libgen.