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No. 12559
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WWI ended 100 years ago to this hour. Imagine the feelings of your forefathers in this moment, European Bernds.
No. 12560
My grandfather was born 15 or so years after WW1 and the older guys i don't know and they're long dead.
No. 12561
I wonder if my forefathers realized at the time that kazakhstan was about to enter even deeper shit than the previous 100 years.
No. 12562
My nana was born in 1918 but she died ~8 years ago I think. Her husband's brother was at the Dardanelles Campaign and lost an eye (but also shanked the Turk who took it with his bayonet :-DDD)

I feel like this time 100 years was 'hooly fuck boys, I need a fucking beer' more than anything else.

I don't know if they knew how bad it was going to be just at that point. Alash got hijacked as a White front rather than remaining a Kazakh independence/enlightenment movement around this time, but that was business as usual by that point, the Russian boot on the throat. Kazakhstan wasn't actually Red-occupied until 1920 or 1921 from memory, and by that point I think everybody knew they were fugged.
No. 12564
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End of the old world that not that much remembered today. A lot things before WW2 for most of people feels like somethibg blured out by time so much they can't even say much about it.
No. 12566
What are some things that were characteristic of old world
No. 12568 Kontra
Majority of world powers is traditionalist european empires with monarchy which divided world into great number of colonies?
No. 12569
The time of monarchies and forming colonies was long over 100 years ago
No. 12571
Austro-Hungarian empire eleminated
Ottoman Empire fragmented
German Empire fallen and turn into republic
Russian Empire break and start of civil war

Great amount of countries in coming years turn into different kinds of new social radical iddologies - fashism, natizm, other kinds of authoritaric and totalitaric socialism
Many new national and artificial states spawned. New thinking, non-tradiyional based society and politics. Start of many smaller wars, new global problems.
Technological progress huge speed up, major changes in society based on this. New era of globalism.
No. 12576
>WWI ended 100 years ago to this hour.

As of this post it's 11:30 on the West Coast. Pretty sure Europe has never been ~12 hours ahead of us, and the war ended at 11:00AM, no?
No. 12577
>Imagine the feelings of your forefathers in this moment
I guess feelings were totally other since Russia was getting in deeper shit.
No. 12578
Feels good knowing none of my ancestors fought in that pointless war.
No. 12585
For some reason I cant recall any of mine did either and I even have one who volunteered for the Spanish Civil War on the side of the Republicans he was Polish
No. 12587
Paternal grandpa became prisoner of russians, he had to escape by committing fake marriage since they had more relaxed laws in time.

According to my father it took 9 years to escape from russia after 'released' and got grey hair in his 40's. This is one of the foretold stories of my family. Other grandfather fought in çanakkale (gallipoli)

Truly suffering knowing they fought for people who does not deserve any rights at all. More than half of country is garbage and needs good beatings.
No. 12591 Kontra
No. 12596
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>A-H was a dynamically developing economical powerhouse
>Thanks to post-war rationalisation and wartime Entente propaganda it will forever be known as a dysfunctional state on the verge of collapse
I cry every time :'(
No. 12597
From the little that I know, Austria went to shit after it was forced to give up on its east indias company, and that happened in the 19th century.
No. 12599
A-H didn't take part in the colonial game, yes.
The East-India Company thing was another deal though. When Maria Theresia ascended to the throne in 1717, she had to fight the War of Austrian succession.
Since she was the only member of the Habsburg family, her father (Charles IV.) made a new law called "Pragmatica Sanctio", which allowed women to inherit the crown.
Foreign rulers didn't accept this, so the war started.
One of the conditions of the peace deal was, that the rulers would accept pragmatica sanctio in exchange for Austria giving up her East-india ambitions.
No. 12600
means nothing, almost everyone is developing including africa that doesn't change it was underdeveloped in some or many aspects.
No. 12602
Its military might have been underdeveloped, but the industrial base, the education and the infrastructure was perfectly good for a European power. The heavy industry was lagging behind in a few sectors, but it was balanced by the light industry.
Poeple always say that "it was the most undeveloped state in Europe", but that's not true. Compared to the West, central Europe was always lagging behind a few years at times, but you still had Russia and the Ottoman empire to the East. So it wasn't the "Most underdeveloped" by any means.
No. 12604
russian empire was rapidly developing and they had more hard power.

austria was good at education and culture but both militarily and industrially it was far from being an actual empire.

>most underdeveloped
nobody said that so pointless to talk about it.
No. 12607
I guess this will be the last big commemoration of the Great War now that 100 years have passed. Remembrance Day will remain but I foresee most young people growing to treat the war as distant an event as the Battle of Blenheim.

>Imagine the feelings of your forefathers in this moment

There's a good chance my maternal great-grandfather was sitting in prison at time for being red so probably vague socialist feelings.

It was officially agreed at 5am but the formal ceasefire wasn't until 11am. People still died after 11am though such cases.

>he had to escape by committing fake marriage

I'm confused. Did he claim to have a family back home that needed him and was therefore let go?

Hungary actually did extremely well in the Second Industrial Revolution and in general the A-H benefited from the different constituent parts finding niches. Think of it's growth as like the early EEC with the market inside the customs union becoming quite vibrant.
No. 12609
I had no idea one of my grandfathers even fought in WW1 until Friday. My mother is doing the ancestry thing and finding old photos and documents. She showed me a picture of the boat he came back on after the war, and I was confused because the only war-fighting grandfather I had ever heard stories about fought in WW2. It's a bit unsettling to find out new details like that about my own family. And I know it's not even real deails, like where he was stationed, or what he did. Just that he was there. I don't know, It's just a sense that I've been cut off from something. Or maybe not that I've been cut off, but he has. Like his life was passed down to his children, but then no further.
No. 12610
At least you know stuff like that.
I barely know anything about what the family did in the two world wars.
No. 12611
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None of my great gramps fought in WWI, I pity the ones who did since they were just another set of meat for the meat grinder.
No. 12612
What happened to our genes that everyone 100 years ago looked like a grown ass man with a stronk beard?

Except for the sissy boi on pic one.
No. 12613
Not genes, just society.
We could use a good, old fashioned war again these days.
No. 12614
But girls looked swarthy and 40yo.
Tough decisions, Ernst. Tough decisions.
No. 12615
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Easier life in physical sense. Many diseases are cured, modern medicine allows more and more children to remain alive, who a century ago would just die before 5 years.
Manly men are here, you just exchanged manliness for convenience and modern society.
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I have a great-grandfather who served in the army. He died years before I was born, but some stories about his time in the service have been passed down to me. He was in France 100 years ago today and probably felt immense relief that it was over coupled with sadness over the deaths of the soldiers he befriended.

I know quite a lot about the music from the 1910's, so I'll share some interesting American songs from World War I.

"Joan of Arc" sung by Willie Weston in May 1917.
This song represents an unusual aspect of American support for entry in World War I - sympathy for France's plight. There has been a historic appreciation for France because they gave important help to us in the War for Independence. Since the fighting in Europe posed no threat to us across the Atlantic, the threat it posed to France was used to drum up sympathy. The singer, Willie Weston was a popular vaudeville performer who came from an English theatrical performing family that immigrated here when he was a child. He frequently participated in entertainment shows at rallies to sell war bonds to help finance the war.

"For Your Country and My Country" sung by Willie Weston in May 1917.
Another recording by Weston. This songs hints towards a simmering problem the U.S. had in recruiting soldiers. We had a huge population of immigrants and children of immigrants from Germany and Austria-Hungary who didn't want to fight against those nations, and they had to be convinced to fight. Check out these lines:

"America has opened up her heart.
Every nationality
And now she asks from every nation
their appreciation.
It makes no difference now from where you came.
We are all the same."

"Over There" sung by Nora Bayes in July 1917.
This is the most well-remembered American song from World War I. Nora Bayes was a well-known singer who performed many shows for soldiers. This song was written by George M. Cohan. He was enormously popular as an actor, songwriter, and playwright and arguably played the most important part in shaping the American musical. His songs written in support of the war were sung frequently.

"I Didn't Raise My Boy to be a Soldier" sung by the Peerless Quartet in January 1915.
The Peerless Quartet was a vocal Quartet employed by Columbia Records. This is one of several "protest songs" written from 1914-1916 before the U.S. entered the war. The war felt distant to Americans in those early years and most supported isolationism. The song's poignant lyrics describe the grief and anger of a mother who doesn't want her son to go to war.

"What victory can cheer a mother's heart
when she looks at her blighted home?
What victory can bring her back
all she cared to call her own?"