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Let's talk about kino

Old thread: >>44
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Do you use IMDb or Letterboxd to log/rate what you're watching?

I've recently ported over my watchlist and ratings to Letterboxd since they made the import feature available for free users now and they also finally released an Android app by now

It has a pretty nice UX and there's more options for sorting, but I also miss the old-school appeal and layout of IMDb, e.g. I can't fathom why they decided to put the average rating of a movie below the fold since it's usually a major indicator what to expect of a movie

Anyhow, if you want to check it out: https://letterboxd.com/
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only reason to own a tv/netflix account

song: DLZ - TV On The Radio
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>>15109
Absolutely not.

I keep my data in a disk drive, to myself.

And to you :3
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<3 I got asleep but me do love
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No. 15172
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Once again, I was tricked. By the name and year, I was expecting some bad-ass western. Instead I got some light-hearted prison slice-of-life fun. At least until some point, after that it got darker and darker and I was actually close to shedding some tears at the end.

Reminded me a lot of One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest.
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>>15172
Also, I set up my controller with Antimicro so now I can screencap all the Sexy Car Washing Scenes from afar
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No. 15337
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Been watching the Polish political-thriller series 1983. It's a pretty good so far, set in an alternate universe where terrorist attacks in 1983 led to the people identifying with party again so that the cold war never ended. It is a bit >Polish in the sense that some terrorists attacks in Poland somehow averted the near collapse of the entire communist world and despite being set in 2003 everything feels cyber-punk but you can get into it.

Netflix had to get creative on the diversity for this so half the population is Vietnamese
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>>15337
>It's a pretty good so far
That's interesting, Polish reviews are generally pretty bad
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No. 15522
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Guys can anyone remember a depressing russian movie about a school aged girl that isn't Lilya 4 ever? I remember someone mentioned this film on old KC so I read the summary but never actually watched it. The only details I can remember are that a Russian girl with some kind of disability gets taken advantage of by people whom she thinks of as friends, and that it's really sad. I repeat, the movie I'm thinking of is not Lilya 4 ever

thanks ernst
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No. 15545
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Rewatched this one yesterday. It's an extremely well done Korean murder mystery thriller based on a true still unsolved case.

Cinematography (esp. the way foreground and background are used), acting, music, everything is top notch.
Stays suspenseful until they very end, but also lots of humourous scenes.
Definitely a must-watch.
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No. 15546
>>15545
Yep, this is a masterpiece.
Here is one short but insightful analysis of the cinematography (no spoilers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4seDVfgwOg
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No. 15552
>>15547
Igors? No.

Anonymous quebec posters who might or might not be Igors due to lack of displaying their identities? Possibly.
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No. 15554 Kontra
>>15547
I have long suspected that at least one of the shitposters was just an Igor alter ego. The worst posters on KC were probably the Canadians and Quebec had the absolute worst shitposters of anybody by far.

So basically no. If you actually wanted to talk about things like art, photography, historical fashion trends that would be great. But somehow I doubt that's what you mena.
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No. 15610
>>15554
Being exposed to Canadians on the internet made me despise Canada as an entity.

It's like a soulless version of the US. The US is very polarized in that a lot of terrible shit happens there, but also a lot of amazing culture and art comes from there (unironically).

Canada has all the dehumanizing, nihilistic modernity of the New World, but none of the soulful contemplation that comes with it.

Just look at their cultural output. Fucking johny test and total drama island, fuck you nickelodeon for making me watch that shit.
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No. 15616
>>15610
As much as I dislike all that bullshit talk about "soul" and whatnot, in this case I mostly agree with you. Canada is the land of the victorious eudemonism. But maximizing happiness isn't necessary the best way to live, and it's more than likely that you will just end up in cultural stagnation if you actively pursue it. Sure, if asked where would they rather live, in Canada or in the US, most people would say Canada (myself included), but what would they rather watch, or read, or listen to, hmm?

Nonetheless, Canada does spawn some quality contributors to the culture once in a blue moon, like (keeping with the threda theme here) that Cronenberg dude.
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No. 15640
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>>15616
Most fiction I would not ever actually want to be in though. That's often part of what makes the stuff so interesting and exciting to look at. I think it's just that, how does the saying go, conflict is the engine of all drama or something, meaning that it is this constant cultural tension and deliberate conflict that creates it. Our country was by design set up to be in political and economic conflict constantly. I think by contrast a lot of Canadians just come across as really passive aggressive.
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No. 15651
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>Eudemonism definition, the doctrine that the basis of moral obligations is to be found in the tendency of right actions to produce happiness.

Oh

Dunno, I know a Canadian. He told me there is bad vibes, poverty and that Canadians eat trash
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No. 15659
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>>15521
What do they say, without spoiling the ending?

>>15610
You're looking too much into this. Canadians are just as fucking awful irl as online and I'd put it down to how they've remained provincial even as they built cities which carries with it something to prove.

How It's Made and Exotica are/were was pretty genius. Canada does make pretty good stuff occasionally but from a distance it is hard to differentiate them from Americans.
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No. 15666
>>15651
Well that last part is definitely true. To this day I am amazed that Kraft Mac n Cheese is Canadian. It is like the absolute epitome of garbage american food so much so I had always assumed it was because of us. But then I see their other stuff like Poutine and yeah, Canadian food is basically like America food minus any of the redeeming features or culinary inventions like Tex-Mex, Cajun, Southern BBQ and so on. And don't give me that shit about maple syrup and maple candies because we have Vermont. Dunno about bad vibes and poverty though because well I am pretty sure they have nothing comparable to us. I mean like even Trailer Park Boys is I think a very good indication of the differences between us. In America you have no idea what kind of soul crushing despair that environment is like. The closest Canada probably gets is the far southeast and southwest like Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver just having cold shitty weather and lots of heroin.

I think when you look at US media it very clearly comes across just what level of violence and poverty and just general baddest of bad vibes we can be used to, like The Wire or Breaking Bad or something. But maybe that is part of what Kazakhstan meant, that we have more "soul" whatever that means which at this point I can safely assume translates to soul crushing poverty, despair, violence, and dystopia in a bleak land carving rivulets out of a soul where hope used to be.
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No. 15679
>>15666
Kraft Mac n Cheese IS American, it's just really really popular in Canada.

>>15659
>but from a distance it is hard to differentiate them from Americans.
You can't even from up close, except for how they say the vowel in "about". Studies show that this one feature of Canadian English is actually being exaggerated more and more over time, as Canadians seek to have one thing which actually differentiates them from Americans.

The only unique cultures in Canada are those that don't speak English. People from BC just feel like Californians, people from the Rockies just feel like Midwesterners. Ontarians stand out mainly for being obnoxious cunts.
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No. 15686
>>15679
I heard a theory that all the really obnoxious ones come from Alberta
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No. 15749
>>15686
Albertans are just Midwesterners.

The problem is Ontario, which is the seat of what passes for high culture in Canada. To the extent that a Canadian is acculturated to this complex, they're cancer, no matter which province they're from, but normal people from other parts of Canada are usually free of the taint.
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No. 15779
>>15749
I thought Quebec was that? Isn't Toronto wait
>The cinema of Canada or Canadian cinema refers to the filmmaking industry in Canada. Canada is home to several film studios centres, primarily located in its three largest metropolitan centres: Toronto, Ontario, Montreal, Quebec and Vancouver, British Columbia. Industries and communities tend to be regional and niche in nature. Approximately 1,000 Anglophone-Canadian and 600 Francophone-Canadian feature-length films have been produced, or partially produced, by the Canadian film industry since 1911.
Oh ok for some reason I thought Toronto was also in Quebec and thought Montreal and Toronto was where all Canadian film was located.
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No. 15816
Can't find anything as cool as Kill List.
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No. 15820
Does anyone watch Parks and Recreation?
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6gcpjw
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What a depressing movie. There was some great cinematography, and Kitano is stylish in the main role as usual, but the meandering plot based on the "Yakuza in America" gimmick felt forced and the sub-par acting, especially by the non-Japanese actors, somewhat ruined it. There was lots of violence but it was for the most part short and poignant, more like executions than usual action movie gunfighting. The dramatic music by Joe Hisaishi contrasted to some long silent scenes set a very solemn tone and in total the movie felt very nihilistic, as the writing and acting were too flat to convincingly convey human connections between the characters that might have given more meaning to the violence.
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No. 16048
I don' want to post it in the documentary thread since it's film art also sound art

What is it? A posthuman desert in the future? The horror and terror of civilization?
At least an experience after which you can decide for yourself

https://player.vimeo.com/video/168993783
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No. 16051
>>16048
Damn, I'm impressed. At the video that achieved to evoke so many emotions by such relatively simple methods and that I've actually sat through it.
Really creepy stuff, I was tense until finally some humans showed up.
It should be shown to people who claim that they hate people, I'm sure they would immediately stop praising the cold machine gods and become good humanists.

Reminded me a bit of this btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3RlrVEyuo (though it's almost like watching MLP in comparison)
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No. 16080
>>16051
He has some other movies that deal with similar issues it seems. I clicked The balcony last night too, but didn't watch it as I was hyped with some texts then.

Your is an art project too, right? I remember it being mentioned in an article.
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No. 16292
>>16080
I've read the accompanying articles on ballardian.com in the meantime too, pretty interesting stuff. I can't imagine watching all those videos, and certainly not for fun, but I still decided to actually archive them on my HDD for good measure. There was also this other guy mentioned who has some interesting videos: https://vimeo.com/157567140

Yeah, it's by Hito Steyerl, some German-Japanese artist. I read about her in an article as well, on e-flux IIRC
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>>16292
> this other guy mentioned who has some interesting videos

Like that one. Tho I had a few problems understanding the Ligotti recitation. It reminded me on the concept of the non-identical. I'm not sure if I really know what it is tho.

>e-flux

Ha. We probably read the same article then.
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The House That Jack Built, a film about a serial killer by Lars von Trier. Seemed to have caused some outrage in Cannes, angry people leaving the cinema etc.
I liked the acting and the gore but the more "artsy" aspects (like the narrator who seemed to be part of the inner dialog of the main protagonist or whatever) felt a bit out of place, to me at least.

Overall would recommend.
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No. 16315
>>16311

It was odd and interesting. Liked it too.
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No. 16318
>>16311
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Barque_of_Dante
The narrator is a clear reference to the Divine Comedy. I think the whole part about hell was unnecessary, he shouldn't have poked the viewer with those meaningless references.
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Loved this two-part Soviet adaptation of Hamlet. It was quite a different experience than reading the English text, much more solemn and dramatic. Though the text and content were abridged, I still felt like nothing was missing and enjoyed the Russian translation by Pasternak. The acting was first-class, even the extras did a great job which made the story all the more immersive. Additional dramatism was added through Shostakovich's great music. The intricate and authentic set and costume designs looked amazing in black and white. It was particularly impressive how the movie takes advantage of both theatrical blocking and dynamic, stylized movement as well as carefully orchestrated cinematography.

>>16292
To be honest, I didn't even pay that much attention to the words, I mostly admired the video effects. I find it amazing when people achieve such an impressive effect with such simple means.
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No. 16343
>>16319
>To be honest, I didn't even pay that much attention to the words, I mostly admired the video effects.

Yes, I know what you mean. These effects make it in the end but they go hand in hand with what is said I think. They never match, just like you cannot be identical with yourself. Therefore you cannot be somebody. Just a short explaining, the experience is something different tbh. That's art.
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No. 16345
>>16319
Why do Russians switch around the G sounds with H sounds? It isn't like they don't around have an H sound.
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>>16345
From memory it's spoken vs written weirdness, mixed in with a bit of what was fashionable at the time of standardisation.
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>>16347
>spoken vs written weirdness
Yep, for some reason back then they used a transliteration system to represent foreign words instead of a transcription one, which would be much more suitable for everyday usage, because it gives the idea of the approximate pronunciation of the word. In my opinion, transliteration is only practical for linguistics specialists, mainly in the field of morphology. Still, could be worse, I've heard that at first they spelled Ivanhoe as Иванхое (ee-wun-ho-ye), but later changed it to much less ridiculous (but still not exactly precise) Айвенго.

Lately loaned neologisms tend to be mostly written as they are pronounced, but older words keep their traditional spelling. Even if someone decides to do a modern Shakespeare translation, I'm pretty sure that they will still call it Гамлет, not Хэмлет, because people just wouldn't understand.
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No. 16357
Well the one show I looked forward to The Orville.
Disappointing first episode.
2nd episode another gay alien episode, but better.
I hope it gets better as I enjoyed the first season so much.
I doubt it as I don't care for dating mechanics in space between 40yo Captain and his 1st Lt(??)
Magic negro who is just smart, which kills the buddy dynamic between coon and ginger.
Ginger is really dumbed down.
Side character with big head had some funny moments.
Plot where they save half a species was anti-climatic and had no tension, but they threw in a porn sub-plot.

Why is all TV garbage.
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It turns out that STD has released a number of 'Short Treks' over the past few months and I watched them all like a battered housewife stays with her husband. Highlight is probably 'Calypso' which is an unremarkable Black Mirror episode, worst is either the Tilly episode or the Saru backstory depending on how much you like Saru.

Coming soon: more animated series, short treks, comedy series and STD is expected to last a very long time now for some reason.
>"I go back to my childhood and Luke Skywalker, the [Star Wars] farm boy who looks out at the twin suns of Tatooine and imagines his future. Trek never gave me that. Trek was always fully formed adults, already in Starfleet and people who have decided who they are. And it never was aspirational that way," he said. "It's important to me to find a way to go back and reach younger kids in a way that Trek should and never really has."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-second-animated-series-more-short-treks-coming-cbs-all-access-1174218

How is Kurtzman able to get away with this?

I'm not raving about Orville S2 either. It's okay and I enjoy watching it but this isn't my Star Trek fix and I've noticed that the actress who plays Kelly has been really phoning it in lately. The show is acting like a sitcom now.
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No. 16359
>>16357
>>16358
I'm glad that EC has a hivemind on this. Enjoy Ginger's angelic voice as a reward:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARddozr7u70
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No. 16360
>>16358
There is a new series of Luther, which I haven't seen yet.
Tattoo series in Victorian England with Tom Hardy was good, or at least not shit.
I seen 2-3 new-ish black mirror episodes, Jesus Christ they fucking suck I think it was series 4.
So definitely stop at series 2.
I caught up with all the GoT episodes from season 2, when I last stopped watching it, great waste of time, but enjoyable.
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>>16359
Good find it was good for the first two minutes of the video, until it turns into Fame.
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>>16319
I still need to give special mention to how the ghost of Hamlet's father was portrayed. Too bad the screenshots turned out shite
Really haunting, and achieved just with lighting, costume, acting, slow motion etc., no digital special effects

Just watch for yourself, it's really an epic scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQDnvhQsiTU

>>16343
>They never match, just like you cannot be identical with yourself.

Ha, I didn't even really think about that, but it makes sense for sure.
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>>16345
H sound was considered to be pronounced in Russian like modern Ukrainian H.
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No. 16520
>>16358
>>16357
I am almost angry after watching or trying to watch the first three new episodes. I had to skip forward through long parts of them. The first two were boring relationship-soap-opera material, the third an equally boring family drama. Not even Roberto Picardo saved it for me. I get the feeling McFarlane is trying to lose the fans who enjoyed his show for being the better alternative to STD. If there is one thing I want to see as little as possible when watching something set in a sci-fi universe it is social drama. What I only now realized is that I find none of the characters likeable. Really none. A ship with the Crushers, Pulaski, Neelix, Kes and Jake Sisko would not be worse. And now there wasn't even a good story to take my mind off the insufferable crew.
I will save myself from watching any more episodes unless I get so bored I would otherwise kill myself, or any of you are truly overwhelmed by it.

>>16359
He should stay a singer. As an actor he feels like a bad copy of Simon Pegg to me.

>>16360
I liked Taboo because I like Tom Hardy so much, I even enjoyed Legend, even though that was objectively horrible. I am looking forward to another season.
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No. 16525
I saw Elysium, not an immediate regret but that movie was dumb as hell.

Re-watched Universal Soldier, never one of my favourite movies and I now get the 'dumb action' movie label, however I wish they still made these types of films.
Lots of deaths, some cool scenes, a few funny quips, far too many kicks in the fight scenes.
Reporter picking up live hand grenades and throwing them back, kek, I really liked this movie, I want to watch more of the same.

Anyone else only want to watch Bruce Willis movies, one of the many reasons I don't go to the cinema is that nothing is appealing.

I did go see Johhny English(Mr Bean) recently, stupid but competent film, enjoyable.
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No. 16528
>>16525
The last diehard movie was so reprehensible fucking stupid I just couldn't deal with it. I guess having a guy on the front of a VTOL jet was a pretty cool stunt, but otherwise I kinda hated that movie and it was largely forgettable and the definition of the kind of dumb bydlo shit some vatnik would watch. I don't really like action movies in general. Actually pretty much anything with low mental stimulus that relies on high emotional stimulus I'm not going to like.
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No. 16530
>>16525
Like every year I watched the first Die Hard on Christmas. The last other movie with Willis I watched was Looper which was okayish. I haven't seen Universal Soldier since maybe twenty years ago, but not too long ago I rewatched Cyborg, also with Van Damme and I could recommend it for what seems to be your mood right now.

>>16528
I don't know if it is us getting older or if everything really just gets more stupid by the year. Or maybe it is simply that you have seen every idea used a thousand times over before. I have never watched any of the Fast and Furious stuff and I cannot imagine ever doing so, even though it should by now be one of the most successful franchises out there. The later Die Hard and comparable films are probably aiming towards the same audience.
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No. 16531
>>16530
I think in a lot of instances it is genuinely because things are getting stupider, and I often feel like the internet is becoming a major contributing factor to everything becoming way more shit. You would think at least it could somehow preserve and spread more international culture but instead all I see is greater levels of stupidity and atomization.

Die Hard movies never actually intended to be anything great, but at least the first and secondly were passably good fun, in spite of a few retarded hoo ra usa #1 shit like the "eurotrash terrorists", which I think happened around when Cold War ended so everyone was confused who to make a villain. But the last Die Hard suffered I think the most from being a post-9/11 film, which frankly wasn't even that big a deal but the whole weepy "we're the worst innocent victims ever this is worse than the holocaust!" crying eagle propaganda shit went into overdrive as did our tyrannical laws and society has never recovered from it--not from the terrorist attacks themselves, but from our own government and toxic culture it helped spawn.

There are a lot of other reasons for things being dumber and in the case of Die Hard movies it is just typical sequel deterioration but yes everything has sincerely gotten both dumber and trashier over the last two decades particularly following the Columbine-9/11 shit. The worst is the combination of creeping anti-intellectualism which while embodied by poltards is pretty society wide, coupled with rampant soulless consumerism.

Which is all a shame because never before have we had such great potential for science and culture but it's all being wasted.
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No. 16532 Kontra
>>16531
Oh and I should probably clarify that my opinions are being very USA centric. This is actually a major reason why I instinctively started abandoning culture of my own country in the early 2000s starting with the discovery of EDM and euro electronic music. It is also why I gravitated towards a place like KC before it was utterly destroyed by the cancer, because a lot of what my country makes is crap. Ironically I think the Slavs for example are becoming great cultural producers. I like Russian contributions to things like witch house and Poland weirdly enough has become a great vidya producer. I suspect the Arab and Islamic world also has great potential, at least in the more Salafist-frei zones. And who knows, maybe by the time I am an old man Africa will be producing much quality content, but right now America is several layers of cringe and braindead.
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>>16531
I think part of it is they try to make even the very stupid shit try to seem smart sometimes for some reason and don't just do a lot like say a John Wick where there's not really much you need to follow. I have seen some dumb people try to over analyze some very simple movies and even say shit like, did you catch that or later say it took me a while to figure out what was going on when there was literally nothing going on.
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>>16532
I have watched most or even all of the more popular Russian/Slav movies and I wasn't too impressed I must say. I prefer Asian ones, or the occasional gem from France/Britain/Other Countries.
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>>16531
Interesting Fact, Die Hard, maybe the second one was suppose to star Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Very nice movie. It is sometimes meditative, sometimes poetic (yeah, they also mention Robert Frost and Walt Whitman), sometimes cozy (and I have no idea how does it manage to be like that, since it mostly takes place in a prison and in a swamp). I watched Mystery Train before, and these two movies have the same dynamic of everything going from bad to being not so bad: in both movies people find themselves in pretty nasty situations, but then it becomes just a tiny bit better, like thin rays of hope breaking through heavy clouds of apathy and despair, but what's interesting is that there is no certain conclusion, these movies narrate the journey and the things that could happen during that journey, not the destination. It doesn't matter if you reach the destination or not, it only matters that you keep walking.
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No. 16542
>>16541
You gotta love Tom Waits.
https://youtu.be/aNdoWVsGzfA
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Suspiria, remarkable remake of a 70s horror film of the same title,
while the director Guadagnino insisted it's to be called a cover version
and an homage, not a remake.

In the center of the plot is still an ancient witch coven that hides behind
the facade of a renowned dance company. The movie plays in the late 70s divided Berlin
this time, during the "German Autumn", the culminating of the conflict between the RAF terrorists and
the (West) German state. Almost everytime the film shows scenes outside the dance company's
building, one can see and hear German riot police and radical protestors in the streets, squatted buildings,
the Berlin Wall etc. There is also of course some German language. Important part of the plot
is an old German professor who lost his wife during the Nazi time due to her being deported
to the KZ Theresienstadt, and who personally never got over this loss.

A lot could be said about this movie, but most importantly to be mentioned are the outstanding
acting performances, especially of Tilda Swinton and Dakota Johnson, the filming technology and cinematography
filtering out all primary colors and using specific camera zooms very commonly used in the 70s in order to achieve
a 1970s-style effect, and as well the physical presence of the film due to the brutal horror scenes and the contemporary
dance elements.
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No. 16568 Kontra
>>16561

Trailer that doesn't spoiler too much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF67WuvC530
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No. 16572
>>16541
This, as well as Mystery Train, look like I should give them a try. Though I'm not convinced by Jarmusch so far, as I didn't like Stranger Than Paradise and Night on Earth - Dead Man was ok, but I don't really remember any of them that well. Maybe I'm just too much of a sucker for more classic story arcs.

>>16561
>>16568
I'm a bit mad I missed it when it was still running recently in the cinemas. Really liked the old Suspiria, but I'm intrigued by this one as well even though(or because?) it looks completely different.
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No. 16581
>>16572
>Though I'm not convinced by Jarmusch so far, as I didn't like Stranger Than Paradise and Night on Earth

Stranger than Paradise was ok for me. Night on earth was more difficult to enjoy. Broken Flowers is the best Jarmusch movie I've seen.
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>>16561
>in order to achieve a 1970s-style effect

Any good read on why 70s films and TV looks like 70s films and TV?

I will write my bachelor on German postwar history and I gather thoughts here and there. I want to couple aesthetics with another field, maybe a TV show.
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>>16600

Changes in filming methodology (lightning, lenses, filters) and film technology/chemistry.
The film directors wanted a rougher, grittier visual style with more "street credibility" and Kodak &co delivered them the films that made it possible.

Between pic1 and pic2 are only 5 years.

Pic3 and 4 are in the 2010s fake 70s visual style that's so much in fashion.
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No. 16609
>>16572
As far as Jarmusch goes:
Stranger than Paradise - kinda meh, feels like the first of a trilogy, never gets off the ground
Mystery Train - pretty good but plot goes nowhere as well
Night on Earth - excellent imo (whoever enjoyed it might also like Holy Motors: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2076220/)

If you don't know Ghost Dog, give it a try, it's weirdly relatable and also has an actual plot (tl;dw Black Weeb Samurai turns Ronin).
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No. 16610
>>16609
>Ghost Dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWw6ttP7af4

>plot
Not really necessary to be a good film. I've just lately getting into (also post)modern art theories and I guess it's the same for film that one is avoiding the classical patterns in order to articulate something outside the usual stories, usually meta stuff is explored. Form instead of content! very modern and so on.
It's "die absolute Userfeindlichkeit", because usually people are like what the fuck, what does that even mean? Often one could say the 2deep4you meme is actually true as they don't get that movies/arts are revolving around meta topics.
But then again some "art" is not really explainable. Many art is not to grasp completely.
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No. 16611 Kontra
>>16602
>Changes in filming methodology (lightning, lenses, filters) and film technology/chemistry.
>The film directors wanted a rougher, grittier visual style with more "street credibility" and Kodak &co delivered them the films that made it possible.

I especially wonder why the latter occurred, it has to do with 70s developments. I know some german TV show raised fear of "american conditions" regarding crime. I know New York had a crime problem in that decade.

Just have to think of Mrs. 45 now.
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I just finished with Inland Empire. And by finished with I mean I stopped it. I don't understand why Lynch got weirder with every movie. For me the line was Lost Highway, which still had a plot you could somehow follow. Everything before was nice or even great. Inland Empire is unwatchable for me. It doesn't even have cool aesthetics or remarkable dialogues. I only felt really uncomfortable watching it. As if I was lost in a feverish nightmare.
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>>16619
>As if I was lost in a feverish nightmare.

It's not a cool aesthetic for you but I suppose that's what I mean with form in the post before yours.

I don't wanna sound like an intellectual slob, but I'm deeply interested in arts discussions on a theoretical level that is coupled with interpretation, I'm not even a real cineast nor a film theorist tho, I just like to watch obscure and indie leaning cinema from time to time
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No. 16639 Kontra
I'd say it's a cinematic reflection on the fundamental changes in western societies of the late sixties: Civil right movement, sexual revolution, Vietnam war, anti-culture and other subcultures, upcoming electronic and digital age etc. etc. forced everyone working in the arts, especially performing arts, to question old conventions, including of course conventions related to aesthetics, visual style and cinematography.
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I initially stumbled upon this movie when researching the Japanese rock band by the same name, Dotsuitarunen (=Knockout). Apparently raking in several awards at the time of release, it wasn't until recently that a widely available version with fan-made subtitles resurfaced on YouTube*.

It's a bittersweet tale of a man who knows only one way to solve his problems: with his knuckles. After getting knocked out in a fight and making it out alive from a difficult brain surgery, star boxer Eiji Adachi (Hidekazu Akai, himself a pro boxer) decides to throw the towel and attempts to run hiw own gym.
Despite the help of another old ex-pro boxer, the mysterious and stuttering trainer Makio Sajima, they fail miserably albeit comically due to Eiji alienating his students through his hard-knocked teaching methods.
Troubled, but unable to imagine a life without boxing, Eiji decides to come back to boxing despite his head injury, as he proclaims "What else can I do? I know nothing but boxing."
After the obligatory Training Montage, the story culminates in a final fight between Eiji and one of his former soft-natured students. Just as the opening fight, it's another matter of life and death.

I have to admit, I haven't watched many boxing movies but I really liked this one. It has an endearing story, solid cinematography, great fight scenes, odd characters and lots of humorous moments that at times border on the surreal.

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>>16746
Few more shots
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No. 16785
>>16746
>>16749
This looks good. I love that style. Will give it a try. Thanks!
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No. 16947
Well, I figured out why Orville season 2 is such a failure.
They killed the buddy dynamic.

You don't need an in-depth view of a character when they are someone's relation or buddy.

First season we had the Captain and the ginger as buddies, the captain and his ex-wife who were buddies, the black guy and the ginger as buddies and the crew played of the gay worf and robot for keks.

There is none of that here, which makes it feel disconnected.

While the first season also had the two strange aliens, the robot and the black gay guy, which don't need this dynamic because they are aliens who need stuff explained to them and the audience as well.
They both get far less screen time, but both get individual episodes instead

Seems they want to do individual stories for each episode and it is quite tedious, the episodes are not even linked and it is difficult to see any character arc, losing the qt3.14 did not help as well.

Tone seems to be made more serious and the jokes which remain fall flat.

Soundtrack and music are very poor as well.
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No. 16966
Hey has anyone seen the new Preacher series? Is it any good? I'm a bit skeptical of a TV adaptation being as good as the graphic novel but eh whatever.
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No. 16996
>>16966
>I'm a bit skeptical of a TV adaptation being as good as the graphic novel
First a caveat: I have only seen season 1. It's not a faithful adaptation considering the entire season is set prior to the road trippin' of the comics. It felt like the producers wanted to play with the Preacher premise and world, rather than adapt the books. Judging the show on its own, it does have interesting characters and the plot is well constructed without being overly drawn out. It aslo has enough absurdity and surrealism mixed in to create the feel of a comic book. While your skepticism of it falling short of the graphic novels is warranted, I would still recommend it.
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No. 17142
>>16947
Orville season 1 is a failure, too imo
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No. 17270
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This is the best movie of the last 2 years make sure you watch it
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>>17270
It looks and sounds unspeakably retarded and bydlo
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>>17270
You can't be serious.
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>>17308
I know right!? Can you believe it's been 25 years since Hercules aired on tv!
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Fucking must see 2 hour Nokia commercial. Was the past really as awesome as this movie portrays?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_(film)
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Technically a documentary, but since it's more entertainment I'll post ITT

So McAfee moved to Belize after the financial crisis and was acting up there with an entourage of heavily armed gangsters, coprophiliac hookers with fetal alcohol syndrome and a pack of ferocious dogs. Some poor schmuck who moved there as well for his retirement and couldn't stand McAfee running the town poisoned his dogs so McAfee had a hitman execute the guy.
This is the main course, then there's some minor stories about his drug kitchen, the time he run a yoga retreat and wrote 5 books on yoga as well as other outrageous stuff.

Would recommend if inebriated
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>>17339
More shots of the man himself
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No. 17344
>>17339
>poisoned his dogs
He deserved to die. You do not fuck with three things: a man's wife, a man's children, and a man's dog. Besides if he had a problem with the man why did he just sneak around and poison his dogs instead of dealing with McAfee himself?
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>>17338
which past? Before mobile phones?

Philm: I don't like it when they make up things. The end of the film is made up
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>>17344
The story goes iirc that McAfee would hang around the beach with his pack and the dogs would terrorize all the people passing by. The guy supposedly attempted to talk to him about it first but you can guess how much influence some petty middle aged boomer who moved to Belize of all places would have with the bathsalts-huffing quasi-kingpin of the place. Still, it was an amazingly petty and stupid thing to do, only explanation I can think of is that the guy must've just wanted to get whacked.

pic 3: supposedly his disguise when he was hiding in Guatemala out after the murder
pic 4: one of his bodyguards mentioning one of the topics Mr. McAfee just wouldn't shut up about
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No. 17381
>>17344
Aren't you gay?
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>>17381
???
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>>17339
Thanks I'll watch it
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This is actually a great action movie, remake of a 70s film by the same name and for de niro it's Heat 2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woYhefJKuOo
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No. 17468
>>17440
Sadly De Niro isn't a guarantee for a good movie anymore, and hasn't been for years now. I really wonder why. He can impossibly need the money and is somewhat ruining his reputation and legacy with some of the shit he was in. Clive Owen is okayish, even though he isn't a really good actor imho. Statham is just bad and does bad movies. Are you the same guy who recommended >>17270 ?
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No. 17504
>>17468
Roger Ebert was asking years ago when reviewing Righteous Kill or one of those generic movies of his why top actors like De Niro suddenly become attracted to really bad movies later in life. Maybe they want to keep working no matter what to keep depression at bay but it really ruins their reputation when half their IMDB listings are cheesy surprise appearances in comedy movies where they play themselves. Anything with De Niro is still better than Oceans Twelve of course.
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No. 17507
>>17468
>>17504
>Maybe they want to keep working no matter what to keep depression at bay
This is definitely a good reason.
Also there probably aren't always interesting open roles to play , and some actors' styles just go out of fashion.
Besides, while I certainly don't want to sweepingly denigrate the whole profession, many actors aren't exactly known for their intellectual prowess and decision making. Lots of famous actors are broke or in debt so they really do have to do it for the money.
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No. 17789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZCZ9DWCwuI

Watched this a few days ago, hilarious stuff. It's a comedy about the adventures of three new conscripts in the Russian army.
Very surreal cinematography and absurd humor, it reminded me a lot of the Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas movie, except in the setting of the Russian army
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Just watched El Cuerpo - The Body. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1937149
I had very mixed feelings throughout the film. Sometimes I feared it might drift off to become some cheesy ghost story or just be a like a remake of thrillers often seen before just with exchanged roles. But it was nothing like that at all. The good acting and the nice cinematography kept me watching luckily and I must say it was a real delight. Totally worth a watch.
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Budget $14 million
Box office $14.3 million

In a 2017 interview, comedian and actor Tom Green stated that the box office receipts for his film Freddy Got Fingered did not reflect the actual attendance, as he thinks that movie goers under the age of seventeen bought tickets to Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles and snuck into the theater showing his film.
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Two trance-music movies from 2004

Pete Tong is good, second one on the right is shit
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So I watched Galaxy of Terror movie and it was total underbudget mess. Well, what I need to expect when Roger Corman in movie (however, Roger Corman's Grand Theft Auto 1977 movie I liked very much unironically).
This is one of those movies who have art cover that means basicly nothing in any way and not related to movie. This movie have simple basic core - spaceship landed on planet to save other spaceship, and there pyramid that brings other people fear into life and all dead exept one... classic. In way of narrative and elements it more or less mediacore "alien" ripoff. Funny thing that it was one of the first, if not first James Cameron's work on movie as production designer and I may say that for this budget this movie have nice special effects.
Anyway, most wierdness come that adittionaly to plot they wanted to make worldbuilding, which is kind of crazy - some sort of other galaxy, planet on edge, film starts when OVERLORD of this planet (guy with shining red face) playing computer tabletop game with some witch old lady who know everything and kind of narrator, then for rest of movie this nothing was remembered at all, during movie was radomley throwed some "lore" which means nothing to audience, parts of movie look random and crazy mess and you can only guess what scenarists (who was absoluetly no-name people) meant, untill end where all this back to actual "overlord" memes but it still absolute and total mess, not in tier of crap like modern "Warcraft" movie, but it like they wanted to make universe, but they has no skill and it not described at all but still this movie part of it and you never understand in your life what the fuck is happening.
And yes, this movie is source of multiple bizzare scenes like rape by giant worm, cutting hand in style of Italian 70s trash movies etc. Recommend I watch it to anyone? Well if you watching all crazy b-movies from 70-80s probably. I also liked how was presented start of spaceship from planet and I felt like some of those ideas cameron taked to his "Aliens".
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>>17898
I feel that if I watched any of those movies I'll be extremely depressed from heartache.

I remember when I watched the Man on Fire's rave scene. I was so surprised and excited that for once they featured psytrance in a movie. That rave scene's music - as far as I remember - was by Absolum.

Stark Raving Mad's music genre is not really my cup of tea, but the rave scenes with the music were so good.

I have been listening to electronic music since somewhere in the 1999-2000s and I am yet to attend a rave or a party.
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No. 17960
>>17929
Heyyy Egypt is back.

I also would recommend Bubba Hotep and Night of the Creeps, as well as Life Force. Semi cheesy 80s horror movies are the best. I have no idea why every single thing about the 80s fucking sucked but somehow they managed to pour all their efforts into making fantastic horror movies. I watched many of them as a small child.
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No. 17969
>>17960
I never left.
I am lurking here daily yet I have nothing to say and nothing has been happening in my life lately but work, anxiety and waves of depression. 10/10 would go crazy again A+++++
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>>17960
Also
>80s
>sucked
shut up. New York in the night with saxophone music, men acting overly macho and women wearing ultrawide shoulder pads and hair with so much spray that you can smell it from the television? And every single evil company is named Globotech or a derivative of such? Come on.
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No. 17979
>>17970
Those are also reasons to hate it. You forgot about having an idiot president and numerous human rights violating regimes being propped up and hilariously corrupt and evil black ops including most notably in public the Iran Contra scandal.
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No. 17992
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After wanting to watch it for an eternity i finally managed to watch The World's End yesterday.
It was fine. Not what i expected and not as good as Shaun of the Dead or Hot Fuzz but still a nice movie.
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No. 18012
>>17992
I felt really uncomfortable watching it, because I saw so much of the protagonist in myself. That is a pretty bad angle when this person and his way of life is also the main source of humour. Overall the movie to me was too much like a combination of the two others before with no new ideas by itself. I really couldn't enjoy it in any way.
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No. 18022
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New Horror-SciFi series. Some Freaks on a space ship wake up from stasis long before they should have, they have no idea what went wrong and who the other guys are. Then things slowly start to get ugly and uglier.
Kind of mediocre but ok for genre fans, I guess.
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No. 18027
>>18022
I know this isn't the right thread for this but your post directly reminded me of https://store.steampowered.com/app/380150/STASIS/
Does anyone know how is Stasis? It is where you wake up on a spaceship before you should have and everything has gone wrong, but things get uglier and uglier the further you explore.
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No. 18029
>>18022
Sounds like Pandorum from 2009, which was actually good btw.
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No. 18035
>>18029

Yep, the story isn't very original. But of course they can go much more into details of the various characters than in a film.
Think of LOST in space on a Pandorum tier claustrophobic space ship, with some gory happenings here and there
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No. 18047
>>18035
>>18029
>>18022
I am pretty sure there is even another series or film out there that was made not too long ago with the same settis, i.e. people wake up on a space station and do not know what is going on or who they are. I started watching it but everything was just too cheap for me to get into it. I looked up both of what you posted and I am sure it was none of that.
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No. 18068
>>18062
No, that wasn't it. There was a whole crew like in Origin but like I said, it was not that show I think. I'll try to find it.
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>>18068
>>18062
>>18047
It was Dark Matter.
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No. 18092
>>18035
You did it, my scf-fi itch is now in dire need of scratching. I guess I'll give this thing a chance.
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Due to a video that mentions old horror movies I went back looking horror movies from the 1970s and 1980s like I did so on several occasions in the past. Just watched A Blade in the Dark, it's an Italian giallo movie but got dubbed for the American market. The plot is really good with many twists and many many suspicions by the viewer. Really good but the end is a bit weird yet resolves with a wtf.
What I like about these films are those creepy and eerie synth and piano themes. I don't watch current horror but this old themes are gone completely, old gritty synths or pianos whose keys get hit in those distinct disharmonies. The plus is this movie builds in this horror music as element of the plot, as the protagonists writes such music for a horror film.
Not so much of interest but all these Italian woman look stunning and beautiful, really sexy.

You can watch it on Youtube, like many of those old films, tho the quality oftentimes is not good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzVORm9e3dM
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Is there any obvious reason I am missing for why movies today are always, or extremely rarely less than, two hours long. Often even more? Only a few years back the standard length of a film was roughly 90 minutes. Or was there a reason for that shorter length and they have overcome something in the time since? The reason surely cannot be that writers have suddenly become so imaginative that the directors aren't able to fit all the awesome ideas into one and a half hours anymore. Can anyone here make an educated guess, or maybe even share knowledge on this?
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>>18280
I was thinking maybe it has something to do with DVD/BluRay capacity but that didn't seem right as they are both capable of storing ~2hrs. So I stumbled upon this article which concludes that according to IMDb data movies aren't actually getting longer. They got longer from 30s to 60s (possibly to differentiate from TV) and stayed more or less sames after that. But read for yourself, it's a rather short and informative article:

http://www.randalolson.com/2014/01/25/movies-arent-actually-much-longer-than-they-used-to-be/
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No. 18314
>>18310
Thanks! What struck me right away was the mentioning of an intermission. I only ever had one when watching Dancing with Wolves as a child. I was really confused back then because I had never experienced such and at first thought the movie had just suddenly ended. Even though I got a soda during the break I was pretty annoyed by it.
Also the graph Average feauture film length proves my perception right. The "Top" movies have indeed increased in length on average. With exception of the bump during the early to mid-sixties and then steadily on from the mid-eighties. The graph even goes further up as it leaves the scale.
Another interesting point in the article is the mentioning of LOTR in this regard. That might indeed have been the start of a new fashion and the moment when the movies makers realized that there is a high demand for lenghty films.
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No. 18318 Kontra
>>18314
>*Dances
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No. 18321
>>18280
I remember a lot movies from 80s and 70s and 60s that was around 2 hours. Some of them are director cuts of cource, but I never spotted too much change in movies size too
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No. 18703
Thunder Road 2018.
Best film I have seen in a long time.
Cop has a breakdown due to his mothers death.
Not a comedy, seamless transition, watching it for the 2nd time now.
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No. 18710
>>18703
A solid 97 on rotten. Thanks, Ernst. I'll watch.
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No. 18735
>>18321
>>18310
You know what it actually could be was made for TV. Why? Because each movie generally got 2 hour time slots but was filled with a bunch of garbage commercials so generally the film itself was like hour and a half. We used to tape things like Alien 3 onto VHS and stopped recording for commercials. All of that is obsolete now and nobody watches movies on TV anymore and if they did there's that whatever it's called you could program to record shows for you. But you don't, because how everybody has NetFlix and such. It's the same reason a half hour show would be 22 minutes and an hour long show 45 minutes per episode, because all the rest is open space for commercial garbage in a half hour or one hour time slot. I don't even know how anyone put up with this because it ruined every movie. The only nice thing was having an excuse to get up and get a snack or use the bathroom without missing anything.
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No. 18740
>>18735
Funny thing that directors cut of metioned by you Alien 3 is like 2hours 5 minutes or something.

>It's the same reason a half hour show would be 22 minutes and an hour long show 45 minutes per episode,
Older TV series actually bigger, like if I remember correctly, Star Trek Original series was like 50 minutes per episode with much shorter intro, compare to more modern serieses with 45-min episodes.

>But you don't, because how everybody has NetFlix and such.
I don't think it is any common there. Here everyone have "Torrtent" or "watch online without registration...". Great services indeed
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No. 18745
Counterpart (the brilliant cold war based alternate reality SF series) second season has ended and 3rd season has been cancelled.

That gave me a little sad.
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I am currently watching Future Man and I cannot say it is a must-see. The first season starts quite well being often truly funny and using all the obvious references to older sci-fi movies in an entertaining and even original way. But midway through it I got very tired of the characters who are being awfully developed. The main protagonist is never more than a copy of Marty McFly, the female takes a ridiculous sudden 180° turn in the most stupid way I have ever seen and the other male constantly in almost every single scene acts like Charlie Kelly high on glue. There are two extremely bad episodes in the second half of the first season but it still had a somewhat satisfying finale. Now I am in the second season and so far they should just not have bothered and better waited some time and kept thinking up better scripts. It is painful to watch in every way and I would be highly surprised if this gets to be continued while other much much much better series lately have not been. Well, or maybe I shouldn't be surprised if it happens.
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No. 18832
>>18703
>Thunder Road 2018.

Really liked this one as well, thanks for the recommendation.
Extremely impressive performance by the main actor (who also turned out to be the writer/director), will definitely watch out for more by him.

>Not a comedy
Overall not I guess, but there were quite a few really funny moments
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No. 18935
Season 2 Episode 7
Yep I'm done with the Orville.

As for recommendations, try out Taboo, set in Victorian England.
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This is the best action movie I have seen in years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK4w5S3HBvg

Must watch from '93
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No. 19073
>>18935
>Yep I'm done with the Orville.

Try the next episode. It's where they've been spending all the budget.
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No. 19074
>>19073
fuck you, but okay :)

Watched a few old movies with Kid and Play, a half cast and nigger hiphop duo, before rap was totally degenerate.
They did a series of movies.
Maximum comfy, never seen them as a kid.
House Party, HP2, HP3 and Class Act, has the sensibilities of a young Will Smith, no weed memes and they are stand out films.
10/10 comfy, more competent than stealing Hardvard, but on a similar, silly teen movie without the endless sex and drug scenes.
Such as life has changed.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/house_party

In regards to Awfulville :^), I made a long ass post before it sucks, first series was as breath of fresh air, it didn't hit all the right notes, but was good, new series is garbage, maybe bc I don't watch much TV.
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No. 19098
>>19073
I wrote above that if anyone of you would recommend an episode I would watch it and so I did. I checked and this has indeed the best ratings of the second season by far. It isn't totally bad but also really anything but good. The clear highlight was the song by ginger. Else this is an old story recipe often used not only in ST but sci-fi overall before and almost everything about it could be seen from miles away. What made me almost stop watching right away was just another stupid relationship bs. Can they not have one single fucking episode without that? And this time it was almost like they tried hard to come up with something so exceptionally ridiculous that nobody would understand it. Falling in love with a machine that cannot even fake interpersonal skills! Do I miss the joke here? Was there any build up to this in the series so far? It didn't even make much sense plotwise and was probably only there so someone had a reason to get emotional and overact. The other thing I am highly annoyed about is the replacement for the qt. She is simply Janeway but with an even worse hairdo and less dialogue.
If this is the best they can do I am really glad I passed on other episodes before. I for my part really hope earth gets blown up in the continuation and this show gets put out of its misery.
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No. 19101
>>19073
what you can say about that? First 5 episodes I watched was okay - terrible humor but if you ignore it, this is moderate star trek. I will not ever metion discovery.
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>>19098
The relationship plots have certainly been overplayed this season. I'm wondering if there is some overarching reason for this that will become apparent in the season finale or if they just got lost somewhere in writing this. Apparently they've been playing the twist since the show began so I suspect it all links together.

I liked the Isaac plot with the doctor though. It was sweet.

>The other thing I am highly annoyed about is the replacement for the qt. She is simply Janeway but with an even worse hairdo and less dialogue.

Agreed. I think the season was written with Alara in mind and in that context it makes much more sense to have had her romance another outcast given she's considered to be retarded on her planet. Still could do with a least one proper exploration episode considering that is what the show is about.

>>19101
I'm going to say it, STD has gotten slightly better. Terrible still but the last episode was Saru-centric and therefore okay with pretty good alien design.
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No. 19109
>>19102
I liked the Isaac plot with the doctor though. It was sweet.
I can understand the kids growing attached to him, there were truly some cute moments. Not the doctor herself. Not in the way it was portrayed here. She announced him as her future partner. That was just a stretch too far. She might as well have said she wanted to marry a plushie. And like I said I don't see how this was even necessary for the plot. Isaac being simply a treasured member of the crew would have worked fine enough to move the story forward. If all these relationships are just part of an arc that leads to a satisfying conclusion it will need some truly imaginative writing. So far it is the worst recurrent theme I ever saw, completely destroying any hint of sci-fi vibe and turning the show into something like Seinfeld, just without the jokes.
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Finally got around to watch this masterpiece. Somehow I had associated with silly plot and bad SFX, possibly because of all the spin-offs. But this is actually a deep and serious movie with great direction and the SFX doesn't even look that silly as shots of Godzilla are used rather sparingly.
I was dozing off inbetween but I'll gladly rewatch it another time soon.
Absolute must-watch, you have no excuse.
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>>19500
Some more nice stills
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No. 19533
I like the second season of The Orville more than the first one, however I
agree the relationship crap is rather cringe inducing and needless. At this point
The Orville seems like a cheap ST clone for 10years olds to me.

STD, same or similar as in first season is only watchable if I imagine it as random
SF series. I can't find any resemblance to the ST-universe in it.
As such, random SF-story, it's ok but nothing special.

None of both series come close to the classic ST series of the 90s.
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No. 19557
>>19533
I think Orville suffers from the budget more than TOS did. Most of the season seemed to be bottle episodes in hindsights because everything went on the pew-pew effects toward the end (which actually seems to have had some cgi scenes noticeably cut). I'm interested in seeing what the season finale will be like.

The thought I keep getting from Orville though is "this would've been a great Trek plot-line". Imagine if Voyager had ended with a twist that Seven of Nine was a sleeper agent and their easy time in Borg space was really due to them being lab rats to study how the feddies operate. Maybe the Borg somehow then trick the Federation and the Romulans save the day making two great baddies of the franchise appear as much more competent adversaries.
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No. 19559
>>19557
>Maybe the Borg somehow then trick the Federation and the Romulans save the day making two great baddies of the franchise appear as much more competent adversaries.
Relationships of Romulans-Federation-Cardassians-Klingons was more than fully used as plot driven thing in mid-late DS9

>>19533
What in 2nd season with "jokes"? I hate Seth's humor, like absoluetly. If he not did this, it'd be much more enjoyable experience

But STD, man it crap, even as random science fiction - characters, dialogues, narrative, it's impossible to watch.
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No. 19560
>>19533
>I like the second season of The Orville more than the first one
Did the first season rape your wife and kill your baby children?
When I try to watch the Orville or STD, I keep thinking of the shit they gave ENT and why they put it down. In a more fortunate universe ENT would be an unending soap opera today and the scripts for the best episodes of the orv and std have been rejected as utter unwatchable crap.
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No. 19605
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>>19560
I don't get hate for ENT too. They honestely tried to make a prequel before TOS, in times before humans become what we know them in future and did it really great for the most part.
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>>19557
>cgi scenes noticeably

Noticeably bad, yes.

>>19560
>Did the first season rape your wife and kill your baby children?

It was just mostly garbage.
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>>19606
CGI is allways awful when you notice it and allways awesome if you don't.

t. movie expakt
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No. 19794
Hello Ernst, I am only looking to watch films that are a masterpiece. What do you recommend?
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No. 19796
>>19794
since a masterpiece is such vague term you can look up film classics, an film history canon, or the imdb 100

Otherwise: I like Fallen Angels and a fuckton more movies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtum6XVH3HI
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No. 19808
>>19794
Basically what >>19796 said, though I'd rather recommend something like the Cahiers du Cinema or Criterion Collection as toplists, e.g.:
https://letterboxd.com/jbutts15/list/the-complete-criterion-collection/
https://letterboxd.com/rockywaschbaer/list/cahiers-du-cinema-100-films-to-an-ideal-film/
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No. 19810
>>19808
the imdb was a joke more or less. What you get is what is seen as masterpieces by the average hollywood consumer.

taste of cinema and its film lists is where I get my dose of indie cinema and what I imagine cineast consider classics

http://www.tasteofcinema.com/category/lists/film-lists/
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No. 19824
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Well, this was something.

All the good stuff: Holy Grails, voice actors, gender-bent characters... just like in my favorite chinese cartoons.
Except it was a 4 hour long movie adaptation of a Wagner opera based on a 13th century medieval romance.
I'm not even going to start unpacking it, just read http://www.monsalvat.no/sybrbrg.htm if you want some background info/analysis. I'll just post some screenshots since it was quite a feast visually. Unfortunately fairly low resolution though.

  1. The young and trigger-happy Parsifal
  2. After long deliberation Syberberg decided against using Linkin Park - Crawling as the background music. Maybe he'll change his mind for the remake.
  3. They loved the swan. Why did he have to shoot the swan?
  4. Jk, the swan wasn't even a real swan.
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>>19826
Okay, this is getting out of hand. Let me know if anyone is interested, and I'll dump a few more screenshots.
Else I'll just leave you with the boobs and the Bosch.
In the meantime I'll be writing my essay Why I Want To Fuck Parsifal: The Erotics of Art
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No. 19840
Creed II, meh Creed I is better, but the romantic subplot and muh death girl, who gives a fuck.

Cleansed myself by watching Jurrasic Park and Rocky II :)
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No. 19884
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>>19827
Now I feel bad about joking about it. It's absolutely great and if you care about art, you should watch it!

Coming up next will be Syberberg's 7 hour epic Hitler: A Film from Germany, though I'll need some time to prepare myself.

In a satisfying manner of tying up loose ends I found this fantastic review of it by Susan Sontag during which she also inevitably talks about German Romanticism: http://www.syberberg.de/Syberberg4_2010/Susan-Sontag-Syberbergs-Hitler-engl.html
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No. 19956
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Peppermint Candy, 1999, by Lee Chang-dong, former minister of culture of Korea and novelist, the guy himself writes the scrypt for his movies. Not every country is so lucky to have such talented people as ministers.

The director of the movie is a honorary Russian. He always makes stuff about suicide, homicide and extreme suffering in general, if he lived in Russia and made films exclusively for the Russian audience then the Russians would use a derogatory term "chernukha" (the "blackest" literature/cinema depicting a lot of depressing stuff) to describe his works.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/chernukha

His movies look quite cheap and it's hard to find good looking scenes, but the plot is always good and heartbreaking. I saw 4 (Oasis, Peppermint Candy, Secret Sunshine, Poetry) of his 6 films, and Oasis with Peppermint Candy are my personal favorites and I consider them one of the best movies I have ever seen. Oasis also belongs to a very rare type of films in which the protagonists are disabled or mentally deficient.

The main character in Peppermint Candy is a dirty scumbag, but the task of the film is to make the viewer feel empathy for him and only a sociopath would feel nothing during the ending.
I personally watched the movie two times, one year ago and one today, both times I cried.

I'm a little surprised that such films aren't very popular on imageboards considering that many people there have been in similar situations, many of us regret the mistakes we made.
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No. 19958
>>19956
By the way, in the film there are a lot of details that become more noticeable after watching it for the second time. I just now understood that the most important scene in the life of the hero takes place at the railway station.
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No. 19984
Never heard of these, but they sound quite interesting. Thank you.
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This is certainly one of the stranger movies I've ever seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyFC_rFobX8
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>>20017
It wasn't really that strange, now, was it? I mean, yeah, there are telepathic dogs and whatever that "screamer" thing was, but other than that it was pretty straightforward and even kinda realistic.
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>>19956
Here is a short sequense from Oasis. The girl dreams about how her relationship would look if she didn't have cerebral palsy. This segment is what made me watch the movie for the first time.
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No. 20127
>>20117
I had no idea what was going on
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No. 20213
I wasn't sure where to post this. It's an old animated rendition of the Aztec / Mexica creation myth. Pretty neat IMO:

https://youtu.be/ITstgdnmp6Y
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Neat

Some "Psycho"
Some "Le salaire de la peur"

Nice copy with red tones

Unrelenting monothematic

Neat
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No. 20403
Restoring thread order 9