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No. 22053 Systemkontra
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(old one on systemcontra)

Maduro regime in Venezuela cracks down on opposition, killing protestors
No. 22057
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>zero citations
>no source for video which doesn't even have sound
From what I can gather it looks like the CIA stooge Guiado has called for military uprising. I'm guessing he's gotten enough assurances about US military and intelligence support?

>Jorge Rodríguez, the government’s information minister, said on Twitter that government was “confronting and deactivating a small group of military traitors” that he said had taken over the base “to promote a coup.” He blamed the “coup-mongering ultraright,” which he said had pushed for a violent agenda for months in Venezuela.

>Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza blamed the Trump administration for having engineered the protests, saying on Twitter: “The heads of the coup d’état admit their responsibility without scruples. The Trump administration, in its despair, attempts to spark an internal conflict in Venezuela. Venezuela’s democratic institutions guarantee peace in the country.”

I don't support this shit. I don't support the US creating yet another civil war clusterfuck destabilizing an entire region. I don't support us having wave after wave of refugees as a result of that clusterfuck and I hope Elliot Abrams dies a long, slow, agonizing and humiliating death of colo-rectal cancer.
No. 22060
Do you think he's the mastermind behind all that?

I just don't know him
No. 22061
Who? Abrams?
Trump's whole team at this point is the absolute worst dredges of the swamp you possibly could find, him, Bolton, and others who are part of the right wing Zionist neocon faction that has shat up the world for decades. Abrams in particular makes Kissinger look like a saint. All the filthiest, most evil shit the US did in LatAm this guy had a hand in. His whole career is specifically built around destabilizing and destroying South American countries, rolling out terrorists and then death squads under dictatorships. His involvement alone is why I dont believe a goddamn thing I've been told about Venezuela because his entire job and that of his disgusting lackeys is turning world opinion against whichever country they are utterly destroying.

On a somewhat related note LaPierre may be an idiot but Oliver North is a complete scumbag. North was another one of the criminals from the 80s and ended up basically being the fall guy for these sorts of PNACZOG filth as Wolfowitz, Bolton, Abrams, Cheney and so on. When general Clark spoke of a "policy coup" and takeover of the federal government by a malignant internal clique, he was specifically talking about these people.

Quite frankly if Elliot Abrams is involved in a South America project then it has as much credibility as a bunch of proofsters talking about what's happening in Ukraine. Not even exaggerating. If you would take a proofster at their word of Ukraine happenings then I guess you can listen to Abrams and the US party line.
No. 22074




Jakarta is sinking because too much paving and pumping of water from the ground, it's a congested city in a congested island, so now they want to take the capital of the country out of the Java island. This is sad, I want to see Java become a super dense tropical asian island, a mega city-island in a cyber punk future. A tropical muslim southeast asian cyber punk future.
No. 22075
And it's over again. They kind of really lame, where is civil war? Their country is now worst hellhole in region with most lame diktator.
No. 22077
Yes, I did not know Abrams. I kind of know Bolton, I don't like him. Cheney was a bastard: personally I don't think Bush Jr. was a bad person, the guys that were behind him reeked of evil IMHO.

How come Trump has got into this situation? The Latino American attitude is kind of reminiscent from the past.
No. 22099
Why wouldnt he? Your mistake was in thinking Trump would be any different. He represents the exact same interests as all the rest and rused all the morons who somehow thought an oligarch Zionist from NYC of all places born and raised in East Coast wealth was ever going to be anything different. He's just more of the same, except he kisses Israel's ass more for some reason.

It's already partly sunk beneath the sea line and given climate change it's largely going to be underwater anyway. It'll just take one good tsunami/earthquake to obliterate the whole city even now. It's a sad but true fact that a lot of places are going to be gone as flooded ruins. New York? Not so much. I plan on pissing on Roman ruins in this time and should I come back millennia later I'm going to have to piss on New York too.
No. 22146
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I find the German affection for our washbars endearing
>A wild raccoon has moved into Heidelberg Zoo in Germany and keepers can't kick him out.

>German daily Rhein-Neckar-Zeitung reported Friday that zoo staff recently discovered the uninvited guest inside the raccoon enclosure, where he seemed to be getting along fine with the seven original residents.

>The newspaper reported that the interloper — nicknamed Fred — can expect free board and lodgings for life, because European Union rules forbid him from being released back into the wild.

>Under a 2015 EU directive, raccoons are considered an invasive alien species that might pose a threat to European plants and animals.

>Wild raccoons in Europe are the descendants of animals that escaped from fur farms decades ago.

>Fred is unlikely to produce offspring, however. EU rules dictate he'll have to be castrated
No. 22151
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>>The newspaper reported that the interloper — nicknamed Fred — can expect free board and lodgings for life, because European Union rules forbid him from being released back into the wild.
This is incredibly funny
No. 22153
I also liked this part
>Fred is unlikely to produce offspring, however. EU rules dictate he'll have to be castrated
No. 22156
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>EU rules dictate he'll have to be castrated
That's a shame. I think if the US has been able to adapt to our invasive feline population, then the EU should just embrace wild racoons. The economic and environmental sacrifice will be repaid with animal hijinx.
No. 22158
Well, I'm guessing it's supposed to be some kind of like humane type of thing in dealing with what they consider an invasive species. Like here tbh we really should just spay and neuter our stray cats, thus helping the very minimal to nonexistent stray cat problem, because instead our system just abducts and murders them all in kill shelters when they don't get adopted within some time. Same for dogs. America exterminates cats and dogs. EU just wants to deal with it by sterilization, which I can get behind. They simply don't want our 'coons overbreeding and outcompeting whatever shreds of native wildlife yurop has left.
No. 22160
>we really should just spay and neuter our stray cats
I wish we would. If the choice is killing or sterilization, the humane choice is the obvious. In >>22156 I was being a little tongue-in-cheek, but the European racoons do pose a real threat to native birds because they feast on eggs. It's actually the same problem we have with stray cats-they kill birds-but our response to the problem is terrible.
No. 22280

Thank Christ I never ended up seriously investing in crypto. I was planning to and even created a verified account on QuadrigaCX (using Canada Post). By the way, I'm Canadian but visiting the US for a couple weeks.
No. 22283
League of Legends is having a mass employee walkout due to their mishandling of sexual harassment lawsuits
No. 22287
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If all goes as planned, the first clinical trial in the United States testing CRISPR against cancer by altering the DNA of tumor cells inside patients could begin recruiting participants next year, the scientist leading the effort told STAT.

Seventeen studies using CRISPR to treat cancer have been listed on the U.S. registry of clinical trials, but most of those use this genome editing technology to engineer immune cells to attack tumors. That approach, including a pioneering one led by scientists at the University of Pennsylvania, is essentially just a variation on the production of CAR-T cells: CRISPR edits T cells that are isolated from blood that’s been removed from patients, and then the T cells are infused back into the patient. And although researchers in China are rumored to be testing a more direct use of CRISPR against cancer, except for one study using CRISPR to knock out viruses that cause cervical cancer, they have not made details of their plans public.

The Gene Editing Institute at Christiana Care Health System, a nonprofit, private community (as opposed to academic) medical system headquartered in Delaware, is preparing to seek regulatory approval for a much bolder CRISPR cancer study. If it receives the OK from the Food and Drug Administration, which it plans to request in the next few months, it would recruit six to 10 patients with late stage non-small-cell lung cancer and test whether using CRISPR to disable a particular gene would allow standard chemotherapy to work better and longer, ideally buying patients a little more time.

“We have to be modest,” said Eric Kmiec, director of Christiana’s Gene Editing Institute. “The goal is to give them a few more months of life, but we hope there will be additional benefits.”

His target: a gene called NRF2 (nuclear factor erythroid 2-related factor). It produces a protein called a transcription factor, which activates some 200 genes that, among other things, pump alien chemicals out of tumor cells. Those chemicals include the chemotherapy drugs cisplatin and carboplatin, so lung cancer cells become resistant to them.

Kmiec and his colleagues have not yet determined how to deliver CRISPR to tumor cells, a challenge for the entire field. They will either inject CRISPR directly into lung tumors or administer it via infusion into the blood, packaged in adeno-associated viruses (AAVs). One AAV “serotype” makes a beeline for lung cells, including those that have spread beyond the lung, so systemic delivery holds out more hope of attacking cancer metastases.
No. 22293
Today, Kathiresan is stepping down from his lofty academic roles and making his debut as CEO of Verve Therapeutics, which is taking its place in the hotbed of gene therapy work around Cambridge, MA. The small team of 10 — soon to double in size — may not come close to rivaling the big biotechs that occupy the streets in and around Harvard and MIT. But relatively few can claim the same kinds of connections in the realms of drug science.

Another cardio genetics expert, Penn’s Kiran Musunuru and Harvard professor J Keith Joung, who co-founded gene therapy pioneer Editas, are on board as scientific co-founders. There’s an alliance with Beam Therapeutics, the upstart next-gen gene editing outfit founded by Feng Zhang, one of 3 scientists widely credited with ushering in the CRISPR revolution that has armed researchers around the world with effective tools to accomplish their work. And Verily will help work on the nanoparticles they plan to use for delivery.

No. 22295
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Sunscreen chemicals soak into your bloodstream
>researchers at the FDA revealed the results of a small clinical trial designed to test how four of the most common sun-filtering molecules on the market behave after they’ve been sprayed on and rubbed in.
>contrary to what sunscreen manufacturers have been saying, UV-blocking chemicals do seep into circulation.
>The fact that these sun-filtering molecules do penetrate into the circulation system does not on its own mean that such ingredients are unsafe
>the trial’s results underscore the need for more data on sunscreen absorption, as the FDA has long demanded from manufacturers, without success

I read a number of similar studies a few years ago. As a result I switched to a mineral sunscreen, which doesn't penetrate the skin, but decided that it was too expensive for regular(daily)use. Now I don't wear any, and simply avoid the sun during peak UV hours.
I should add that this is a US issue, since the sunscreens available in Europe are different. The 2014 Sunscreen Innovation Act was intended to streamline the approval process and bring Americans better sunscreen options. Still waiting.

>No new sunscreen filters have been approved in the U.S. since the late 1990s, mainly because they’re regulated as over-the-counter medicines, which have stricter standards than cosmetics. The European Union and most other countries treat sunscreens as cosmetics.
>Many European sunscreen formulas contain filters that provide better protection against UVA while also protecting against UVB. And they’re less oily, which make them more appealing to use
>a study last year found that nearly half of U.S. sunscreens...didn’t offer enough UVA protection to meet European Union standards

On topic music:
Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free To Wear Sunscreen
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No. 22357
Well, at least this time it's not about a Slav shithole country like Serbia or Poland.
No. 22361
How is it different?
I'd use a PMMA polymer solution as a base. Think it's done like this with any sunblocker.
No. 22364
>How is it different?
The difference has to do with the active ingriedients which manufactureres can use, and also the level of UVA protection which sunscreens must provide. Europe has more approved ingriedients, as well as higher UVA standards. This article gives a more detailed description of the different EU and US regulations:
>Sunscreen manufacturers who make products for the market in Europe meet high standards for UVA protection, because they can pick and choose among seven ingredients that offer strong protection against UVA radiation...Only two of the FDA-approved ingredients filter UVA rays.
>the FDA set lax standards for UVA protection – in part because good UVA filtering ingredients had not been approved


To summarize: US products do a good job blocking UVB rays, and will prevent sunburn, but breakdown quickly and don't always guard against UVA damage. I should also amend my statement that this was a US issue. The results of the FDA study will, of course, apply if the tested chemicals are used elsewhere.
No. 22380
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Not with B-52s he's not. Nowadays they've been largely converted into precision strike platforms that can carry large dumb payloads. Especially since they developed the rotary bays that are wired for IAMs and the fact that the battlestation now has inflight IAM target updating.

They're not really intended to penetrate air defenses anymore but to flatten lots of important targets with precision in waves, and besides, Iran has an actual IADS with AESA capability. Combine that with an aircraft with an RCS like a stratofortress and you're just wasting your time. Be worried if multiple wild weasel capable squadrons are being deployed there because they're the first wave of offensive action against Iran.
No. 22438
The real question I guess is how much Russia would do in retaliation. It seems they already deployed some people to Venezuela so how much more Russian commitment would there be in Iran?
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No. 22444
Ebin. Should have developed an F-16A instead. The old school light fighter that wants to kill its pilot. 1 it isn't already done better by BMS and 2, it is unquestionably declassified. Really, it is just the ECM and IFF stuff that classified, the rest of Block 50 is pretty well understood and no sim does ECM or IFF properly anyway.
No. 22501
Article | Published: 15 May 2019

Total synthesis of Escherichia coli with a recoded genome
Julius Fredens, Kaihang Wang, […]Jason W. Chin
Nature (2019) | Download Citation


Nature uses 64 codons to encode the synthesis of proteins from the genome, and chooses 1 sense codon—out of up to 6 synonyms—to encode each amino acid. Synonymous codon choice has diverse and important roles, and many synonymous substitutions are detrimental. Here we demonstrate that the number of codons used to encode the canonical amino acids can be reduced, through the genome-wide substitution of target codons by defined synonyms. We create a variant of Escherichia coli with a four-megabase synthetic genome through a high-fidelity convergent total synthesis. Our synthetic genome implements a defined recoding and refactoring scheme—with simple corrections at just seven positions—to replace every known occurrence of two sense codons and a stop codon in the genome. Thus, we recode 18,214 codons to create an organism with a 61-codon genome; this organism uses 59 codons to encode the 20 amino acids, and enables the deletion of a previously essential transfer RNA.

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No. 22513
>more info here
>links to fucking cripplechan
Are you the one who's been shitting up the place lately?
>other source is a youtube video
For fucking Christ's sake


And yeah I heard about that. It's the first time since forever I can even remember San Francisco trying to do something I actually support.
No. 22524
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>German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she thinks the post-World War II global order as we know it is over — and grouped the United States with China and Russia as adversaries of Europe.

>In May 2017, Merkel made a subtle jab at Trump, saying at a campaign event: "The times in which we could fully rely on others are partly over. I have experienced this in the last few days. We Europeans really have to take our destiny into our own hands."
I think it is time for us to discuss the necessity of regime change in Germany and liberating the German people from the dictatorship of the Mutti regime.
No. 22525 Kontra
>that image
>those comments on the subject
“You just posted cringe, bro”
No. 22526
what are jokes
No. 22559
Early elections in Austria after chancelor Kurz was forced to end the coalition with the FPÖ over a video/corruption scandal that prompted the FPÖ leader to step down.

No. 22564
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>video/corruption scandal
The most amazing part of this story is that the Vice Chancellor actually fell for such an obvious trap. Picture related.
No. 22566 Kontra
> pic related
Yes yes, every politician is a corrupt asshole. Everyone but ours.

I really like how people who vote for parties like that live in a reality bubble were total stranger in power have their best interest in mind because they say so. They have been burnt by every other party there is but this one is different because they say so. And when they turn out to be no different it is a conspiracy!!! I hate them so much, not because of their views but their inability to better themselves and their willingness to kill of every thing nice because hurr durr.
No. 22572
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I'm...not entirely sure what you meant by this (and not that American btw). But you are right. The problem is the central nature of politics. And not to go all full-retard but honestly the Protocols even if fake is still an ingenious amount of truthful political satire to fiercely rival The Prince since it so adroitly captures the very nature of politics and of political schemers. Basically they're all just a bunch of incurable cunts, and most of the few good ones either get squashed down, assassinated, or bought out. But it is a foolish thing to imply this is somehow new. There's nothing new under the sun, not since Rome even. On the plus side we at least don't have a bunch of retarded faggot imperial family cultists murdering their own parents/children/siblings and drafting the peasantry into some stupid fucking war solely for personal gain atm. Or when they do, they at least hide it a bit better.

I mean God, could you actually imagine being a fucking Roman and having to put up with other fucking Romans all day every day?
No. 22580
I don't think that this was a conspiracy or that the chancellor was innocent. Although that is what happens in the picture, it was not the part that I wanted to emphasize. The details of the bribery attempt just lacked any subtlety-it was all laid out in an almost comical way. It reminded me of the first line of this old cartoon. That was the only point I wanted to make.
Tldr:the pic was not that related.
No. 22582 Kontra
Fair enough.

I was sort of reacting to the pic that someone made in an attempt to be funny.

> hide it a bit better
No they don't. Same fucking people, same fucking bullshit. But we allow it because even if we are better, let's assume it, we are all mediocre in the end, we don't do anything about it which actually make us worse.

> imagine being a fucking Roman...
Isn't that how for example Washington works? Besides the murder part that is. I think Kreml has the murder part in it though.

Also I got reminded by this.
No. 22635
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Niki Lauda death


I was never much into Formula 1 but Niki Lauda always seemed to be a great guy in interviews or talkshows so i'm kinda sad about that.

No. 22733
I like how everyone keeps talking about climate change but almost no one talks about pesticide use and land development which is killing things more than anything else. It isnt that climate change isnt also a critical issue but like people will talk about greenhouse gases or now micro plastics without addressing the horrific amount of chemical pollution. I remember there were numerous different issues talked about in the 70s and 80s that mysteriously all vanished from public discussion like acid rain and now people only talk about carbon emissions. This makes me incredibly suspicious. I also wonder to what extent all these companies have leveraged their power to silence discussion of say the horrific amounts of damage Monsanto is doing to the world and instead just talks about carbon emissions from things like coal fired plants, also without talking about all the other poisonous chemicals released by running said plants.

It is clear we are rapidly terraforming earth into a toxic dead hellhole.
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Apparently the burger in chief just declared a national emergency in order to push through $8 billion worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia as well as the UAE without congressional approval or Senate oversight
>The Trump administration on Friday said it would sell $8 billion-worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates with getting congressional approval, citing Iran as an urgent threat.

>The move has sparked bipartisan outrage on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers are promising to block the sales and calling out Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for what they see as an illegal maneuver made in a shady manner.

>"President Trump is only using this loophole because he knows Congress would disapprove of this sale. There is no new 'emergency' reason to sell bombs to the Saudis to drop in Yemen," said Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., a vocal critic of U.S. support for the Saudi-led coalition's war in neighboring Yemen. "This sets an incredibly dangerous precedent that future presidents can use to sell weapons without a check from Congress."

Which also makes me wonder how much he's been trying to apply that sort of principle to unilaterally give the Saudis nukes

Because as we all know, what the world really needs right now is giving nuclear technology and eight billion dollars worth of weapons to the fucking Saudis of all people. Apparently a lot of people on both sides of the aisle in Congress are pretty pissed about this retarded move.
No. 22737
He also just twittered that he's cool with Kim firing rockets who, apparently, called "Swampman Joe Biden" a "low IQ individual".

It's a hilarious timeline we live in.
No. 22739 Kontra
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>Runs for president on the isolationist platform of "America First"
>Can't stop fucking with the status quo of the world stage
>"Let's give Saudi Arabia nukes. Nuclear is very powerful."
I want off Orange Man's wild ride!
No. 22740
Oh God you're not even joking apparently
It's fucking embarrassing. Trump has made us look so incredibly weak it's absolutely pathetic and he's either too stupid or too vain or both to realize how much our enemies keep playing him like a fool. The rest of the world already realized they can get away with murder as long as they offer some empty flattery and mock his rivals apparently. It's like dealing with the most stereotypical woman caricature in the WH at this point. Someone needs to tell Trump to stop acting like a woman.
No. 22748 Kontra
>he rest of the world already realized they can get away with murder as long as they offer some empty flattery and mock his rivals apparently.

You sound like TEAM AMERICAS spokesman. If you are trying to portray the hilarious side of murrican ceptionism, you are doing well so far and should continue.
No. 22757

D*g bless Afghanistan. Bringing that local flair to the Commonwealth's favourite sport :-DDD
No. 22758 Kontra
Also that feel when you will never magdump an AK because your cricket team won. I never knew that such a feel existed but it feels bad man.
No. 22772
Why were they arrested? What kind of shitty deal is this it is their country they should be able to celebrate by firing as many AKs into the air as they want. Why isn't this a protected right written into their constitution?
No. 22792

He just makes you look as corrupted as you are and as the rest of the world is, too.
All he cares about is American companies and American jobs (so exactly the matters he was voted for, btw).
If some retarded gooks put each other in concentration camps or shoot missiles at each other = not his problem.

One can critisize this stance of course but it isn't illegitimate or "making you look weak".

Something that made you look weak was for instance when Obama set a "red line" for Assad not to cross, and then
doing nothing after Assad crossed the line.
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>The European election resulted in a fragmented European Parliament where the traditional big two groups, the center-right European People's Party (EPP) and the center-left Socialists & Democrats (S&D), lost ground and Euroskeptics made gains.


>A populist Eurosceptic surge failed to emerge on Sunday but they were on track to be returned to the European parliament in larger numbers than ever before, with Marine Le Pen’s National Rally celebrating a narrow symbolic victory over Emmanuel Macron’s En Marche in France.

No. 22838
They tortured and murdered a US citizen and had the audacity to demand $2 million from us as further insult "to pay for his care." Trump apparently floated this idea of paying them and keeps kissing Kim's ass. If a Democrat had done this they'd be demanding he be hung for treason. Trump is making us look incredibly weak, gullible, easily manipulated, and sending the signal you can torture and kill Americans and he'll look the other way and long as you mock his domestic political rivals.
No. 22839
"Eurosceptics" can smear their relatively good results onto their hair, they'll never get close to governing, and from opposition they can give all kinds of speeches, it's useless. However this is the only thing they should do to keep their positions, they can lean back comfortably and exploit all the blunders those in power will sure make to smear some shit onto them.
The question is if EPP and S&M willing to form a grand coalition together (with the liberals and greens)? Will they initiate centralization? Will they have enough power to force it through?
No. 22841
I'm kind of confused how Euro voting works at this point. So Le Pen beat Macron's party, at what the level of EU representation? But Macron and his party are still in power?
No. 22846
Countries vote for their representatives within the EU, that means the more votes a party get the more politicians it can send to Brussels and the bigger the influence it has there is. The current state of national politics is not affected by that, there are national votes that have nothing to do with the EU for that (similar to you guys voting on a state and on a national level)

Nice and easy to understand video for a system that is a bit of a clusterfuck:
No. 22852

It's for the European parliament, not national elections. Each country has the right to a certain number of seats and it's up to them to decide how to make them available nationally. Italy for example distributes the seats among its internal regions, while France doesn't.

People are talking about the fact that right wing eurosceptic parties are running for the EU parliament (and winning) rather than for national elections. Which is kind of conflict of interests. But the thing is that they kind of changed their strategy after the fiasco of Brexit, they don't want to make their countries leave anymore, rather they want to change the EU from inside, so they went for the EU parliament.
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Interesting aside: The election was treated as a kind of pseudo-referendum here. A way of giving a clear and definitive public answer on what to do with Brexit given government and Parliament can't pass a decision...

So the Brexit party won bigly.
But the combined remain parties scored a larger vote share than Brexit+UKIP.

No. 22877
Russia why are you smuggling leaches into my country?
Does Russia still rely on leaches for medieval medicine or something?
No. 22962
>comfortably and exploit all the blunders those in power will sure make

That is all they can do, if they get into power the harsh reality hits them and they fuck up. Besides I like how nationalists from different countries team up for moral support to fight EU because teaming up with other countries is bad mkay.
No. 22963
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It's very convenient to group Brexit and Anti-Brexit this way.
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lol it kind of reminds me of the central idiocy and paradox of a bunch of social outcasts who thoroughly hated most of their own countrymen teaming up to form an international community calling themselves by an internationalist label of "bernds" while saying how much they all hate internationalism and love right wing nationalism.

Trying to build an international coalition of hard nationalists is one of the dumbest things I've heard of yet unless you're either Russia, China, or USA and playing The Great Game 3.0 in the 21st century. The US only even supported the EU because the EU grew out of an economic framework under the NATO countries and expanded towards CIS territories while swallowing former Warsaw Pact members, which is exactly the reason why Russians do not support it and have been doing everything they can to try and undermine and break apart the EU including by funding all these nationalist groups.

To be perfectly honest here and without memeing about my country's interest in things, the smartest pro-European thing Euros could possibly do is the most obvious common sense thing which you'd have to be utterly pants on head retarded not to see, and that is supporting the EU. The people who want EU to fail want YOU to fail. I'm fine with Brexit because all it's going to end up doing is fucking up the British economy and making them even more reliant on us and making them more of a vassal to my country while being a convenient perpetual base of US power projection into Europe in case things get messy again. What was in Britain's best interest was always staying a part of the EU. Russia doesn't care because UK breaking off will still weaken the European community as a whole while also removing fucktons of military projection, naval and air power, nuclear weapons, and economic power from premises.

It would be similar to how China or Russia would want to convince especially dumb Americans to support Texan or Californian secession. Yes, we may all secretly hate each other, and depending where you are might even secretly want to sell New York, Florida, Texas, or California to the Russians or hell even Nigeria for all they fucking care, but the only people who'd want that to happen are people who actively want the US to fail and the member states along with it.

The only thing that will happen from supporting these nationalist groups in Europe is dooming your own collective and individual states to servitude to foreign powers. As an American, I really don't give a flying fuck if you break apart and flatline all your own currencies and utterly destroy your collective bargaining power so long as my country can move in and pick up the pieces, buy out all your shit for super cheap and then force you all to keep buying American shit and creating American jobs by being a captive market with shit to nonexistant native industrial and economic infrastructure or independence. At very minimum we have at least probably captured the British markets so they remain safely within my own fat orbit. Hopefully we can outcompete and bankrupt all their steel and oil industry among other things. MMm man just imagine if we could get the Scots to hold another referendum too and cause as much British chaos as possible to capture those North Sea oil fields in our economic orbit.

Main problem is not letting Russia hold Europe hostage to their natgas and other energy concerns--that should be our job.
No. 22976
>As an American, I really don't give a flying fuck if you break apart and flatline all your own currencies and utterly destroy your collective bargaining power so long as my country can move in and pick up the pieces, buy out all your shit for super cheap and then force you all to keep buying American shit and creating American jobs by being a captive market with shit to nonexistant native industrial and economic infrastructure or independence. At very minimum we have at least probably captured the British markets so they remain safely within my own fat orbit. Hopefully we can outcompete and bankrupt all their steel and oil industry among other things. MMm man just imagine if we could get the Scots to hold another referendum too and cause as much British chaos as possible to capture those North Sea oil fields in our economic orbit.

That's very sociopathic and unchristian of you.
No. 22995
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>US energy department rebrands fossil fuels as 'molecules of freedom'

>America is the land of freedom, as any politician will be happy to tell you. What you don’t hear quite so often is that the stuff under the land is also apparently made of freedom as well. That is, at least according to a news release this week from the Department of Energy (DoE).

>Mark W Menezes, the US under-secretary of energy, bestowed a peculiar honorific on our continent’s natural resources, dubbing it “freedom gas” in a release touting the DoE’s approval of increased exports of natural gas produced by a Freeport LNG terminal off the coast of Texas. “Increasing export capacity from the Freeport LNG project is critical
to spreading freedom gas throughout the world by giving America’s allies a diverse and affordable source of clean energy,” he said.

>The concept of “freedom gas” may seem amorphous, but it’s actually being measured down to the smallest unit. “With the US in another year of record-setting natural gas production, I am pleased that the Department of Energy is doing what it can to promote an efficient regulatory system that allows for molecules of US freedom to be exported to the world,” said Steven Winberg.

>It’s unclear if members of the Trump administration attempting to assign patriotic intentions to natural gas are aware of the silliness of the concept, but Rick Perry seems to believe in it. “Seventy-five years after liberating Europe from Nazi Germany occupation, the United States is again delivering a form of freedom to the European continent,” the energy secretary said earlier this month, according to EURACTV. “And rather than in the form of young American soldiers, it’s in the form of liquefied natural gas.”


I understand the concept but I'm still baffled.

Well, it's generally how it falls. There is even a dust-up right now because the SNP are pushing for independence referendum powers citing the EU elections only to rebuked that many people voted for them tactically as the largest remain party.

Nicola Sturgeon has no interest in pushing a referendum now but it makes a nice narrative for every Torie leadership candidate to be baited into saying no.
No. 22996
>the guardian
I was expecting it to be an Onion article to be honest.
No. 23010
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>the United States is again delivering a form of freedom to the European continent,” the energy secretary said earlier this month, according to EURACTV. “And rather than in the form of young American soldiers, it’s in the form of liquefied natural gas.”
This is one of the funniest sentences I've ever read.
No. 23013
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yankees believe this shit - in Europe nobody cares ; we will get rid off the leftwinged crackers and some other probs , later on we will have a Le Pen style Europe - things will be ok
No. 23021
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Today near Nizny Novgorod was big ka-boom on military factory that produce aviation fougasse bombs.
Giant blast was heared by people 30km from where it happened. More nearby - a lot of windows destroyed etc.
Official said there "no casualties" but in this very hard to belive - ka-boom was really big and all what was in this factory compleatly annihilated. A lot of military stuff such as bombs now lying around ready to make new ka-booms.
No. 23027
>a Le Pen style Europe
Fucking lol doubt.png
Your nationalist movements are specifically being backed by foreign powers for a reason. Le Pen style nationalism means ultimately dissolving the EU and falling more under the Russian sphere of influence.
No. 23033
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Here vid related
No. 23035
>Officials said no casualties
No bodies => No casualties!
No. 23037
82 Injured is the recent official reporting
No. 23038
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The mass extinction of numerous species has been ramping up while people living in hive cities don't even notice the mass destruction and complete genocide of the biosphere happening all around them because they're too busy watching twitter shitposts and dumb shit about celebrities :(
No. 23040
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We should decrease our population.
One of things I always dreamed of: building giant space stations with biospheres where we can live and compleatly leave earth
No. 23042
FAB or FZAB? The former will be nasty for those nearby but the damage is done, the latter could get really out of hand.
No. 23043
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I actually write elsewhere about this, for it is my dream too. I furthermore want us to deposit genetic libraries of all known species particularly ones going extinct on the moon or better yet Mars, along with the Beresheet mission which unfortunately failed. We should do as it was Biblically, and build our space stations and ships to be giant spacebound biospheres or Arks to save the species from this dying world.
No. 23055
Good game Afghanistan, but no AK fire this time :-DDD

No. 23058
>China is very evil, they read personal info of people all over the world
>Because only for us (pun intended) it is permitted to read personal info of people all over the world :DDDDDDD

No. 23080
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Everything online has gotten so much more purely cancerous ever since the boomers and their godfuck retarded grandchildren got online and the corporations fully took over, and now we've got government on it. It's still nowhere near China or Russia tier shit internet regulations but yeah it's pretty bad. I forget if they finally struck down searching your electronics like phones, tablets, computers, iPods even, flash drives etc. at airports as being flagrantly unconstitutional.

You see, there is a reason why Americans are so obsessed about our Constitution, because it is the one single founding legal instrument left to keep us from getting fucked over completely by government and corporation, but sadly it doesn't actually regulate corporations. The problem is, Russia went in the right direction with worker rights and trying to give rights economically, but they didn't have freedom politically. Our problem is the opposite: we theoretically have political freedoms even with and despite the oligarchy here, but nothing addressing economics as Stalin said. So instead we have a bunch of royally disempowered disenfranchised people who get this ridiculous vote between shit and diarhhea every election between one corporate backed stooge versus another.

America is almost purely the reason the cyberpunk genre even exists to begin with. Well I'd say us and Japan, but quite frankly the Japs are just an extension of Americanism. I mention all of this because yeah, it's just a "vetting" procedure for immigrants at this point, which frankly seems like it's only there because the NSA and FBI is too fucking lazy to actually go and get warrants to look at their stuff, and it's supposedly "anti-terrorism" but really what terrorist is going to go through the entire naturalization process? And all our freedoms are constantly being stripped because herp derp terrists be terrizing people which is the only reason the war of terror even exists to begin with, and all these shitty things they eventually begin applying to the rest of us.

What you should have said, Russia, is actually about our illegal immigrant thing. What nobody has said is all these Mexicans and South Americans are being warehoused in FEMA camps. I am being completely serious. All those KBR Halliburton contracts to build FEMA camps out in the desert are being used now to house illegal immigrants. And all those fat dumb fucks here are like durrrrr build da wall without thinking for even a moment that they're testing out the entire FEMA camp system on immigrants right now. Those warehouses and camps are for us you dumb fucks

These are what FEMA camps look like. The shit they test out on immigrants are tests for what they're planning on eventually doing to us.
No. 23086
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>Those warehouses and camps are for us you dumb fucks

That's only reasonable. Once the elite manages to create their genetically redesigned Homo sapiens 2.0 race of obedient slaves they will have to use efficient methods to get rid of the deprecated "archaic" cavemen we still are as of now.
No. 23087
>You see, there is a reason why Americans are so obsessed about our Constitution, because it is the one single founding legal instrument left to keep us from getting fucked over completely by government and corporation

Republicans only care about the gun section, otherwise they'd oppose Citizens united.
No. 23089
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Hideo "Genius" Kojima already creating his own version of jem'hadar!
No. 23094
while reading such ramblings i usually think to myself "we'd be better off today if the ussr had nuked that giant malicious tumor called usa 40 years ago" t. east german boomer, but then i usually realize quickly that in germany and europe oligarchs, corporations and political elites are similarly rotten. likewise the average euro is just as retarded as the average burger. take a couple cultural differences away and you get exactly the same superficial idiots. see recent eu election results and the idiot cesspool called kohlchan, which actually made me lurk on 4chan again. what's worse, the sheer retardness present on kohl /b/ unfortunately depicts the absolute state of german society in 2019 pretty accurately, i'm afraid.
i know this post doesn't make you feel better, but at least you're still angry about corporations and politicians getting away with everything. i for one became kinda indifferent to real world political happenings. i tend to avoid thinking about it, let alone getting actively involved. over time i have developed profound disgust and hate towards anything remotely reeking after contemporary politics thanks to the internet and chans in particular getting literally flooded with the worst, disgusting propaganda and ideology i can imagine.
No. 23095
1,5 MB, 6 pages
Remember the chemokine receptor He Jiankui attempted to knockout in his infamous "crispr babies"? Some statistical geneticists at Berkeley just published a paper reporting a 21% increase in all cause mortality associated with CCR5∆32 in the homozygous condition, using data from the UK Biobank. Now, the Chinese twins aren't homozygous for the knockout nor do they have the same variant, but this work underscores just how reckless it was to edit these children in such a manner: we really don't know with confidence what the function of this receptor is.
No. 23103 Kontra
>just how reckless it was to edit these children

Yes, of course it was. We are still in the stone age of genetic manupulative technology.
Every reproductive application of messing around with the human genetic code implies complete
disregard for the future destiny of the altered individual.
No. 23112
>Every reproductive application of messing around with the human genetic code implies complete disregard for the future destiny of the altered individual.

In regard to genetic engineering I tend to agree with this sentiment. However one can imagine circumstances where gene editing or mitochondrial donation might be the only recourse whereby a couple could conceive healthy biological offspring. Indeed, forms of the latter have been used several times to assist the reproduction of women carrying mitochondrial diseases, and the technique is presently legal in the UK.
No. 23115
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>one can imagine circumstances where gene editing or mitochondrial donation might be the only recourse whereby a couple could conceive healthy biological offspring

That research is getting caught in the crossfire of the CRISPR debate. Funding language for the FDA bars consideration of trials which include heritable gene modification. That language had briefly been altered to allow the FDA some leeway in decision making, but it has since been restored to a full ban.

>the full Appropriations Committee of the U.S. House of Representatives today restored language to a 2020 spending bill that bars the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) from considering requests to approve any clinical trial “in which a human embryo is intentionally created or modified to include a heritable genetic modification.”
>Democrats who lead the spending panel said they had removed the rider because they wanted to spur a fuller debate on how the U.S. government should regulate the genetic modification of human sperm, eggs, or embryos.
>although they support a ban on using gene-editing tools such as CRISPR to modify babies, they were concerned that the FDA rider might also hinder the development of potentially helpful therapies
>Dropping the provision [would have freed the] FDA to consider allowing a less controversial approach that combines genetic material from a mother, a father, and an egg donor to prevent an embryo from inheriting a mother’s mitochondrial disease

No. 23116
A potent antibiotic of last resort is under threat from swiftly spreading bacterial genes that allow microbes to shrug off the drug’s effects.

Developed in the 1990s, the drug tigecycline is used to fight Escherichia coli as well as bacteria that cause pneumonia and other life-threatening illnesses. Tigecycline provides a key line of defence against antibiotic-resistant bacteria, including organisms that have recently evolved resistance to colistin, another antibiotic of last resort.

By sampling Chinese pig farms, supermarket meat counters and other sites, Jianzhong Shen and Yang Wang at China Agricultural University in Beijing and their colleagues identified two genes that protect bacteria from tigecycline and other antibiotics. Both genes were found riding on circles of DNA that can roam from one bacterium to another, and shed genes as they travel. Samples from hospital patients also contained the tigecycline-resistance genes.

The authors say that global surveillance for these genes is urgently needed.

No. 23119
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Hahahaha I told you all America is going to plunder Britain
>Mr. Trump said that “everything will be on the table” in negotiations for such a deal, including opening Britain’s public health system to American competitors — an assertion that caused an uproar and which he later walked back.

>Still, by raising the prospect of a Britain overly dependent on the United States, Mr. Trump’s remarks further divided politicians and inflamed thousands of anti-Trump protesters on the streets.

>To many in Britain, Mr. Trump appeared less a friend tossing a lifeline than an opportunist angling to exploit Britain’s estrangement from Europe by pursuing a trade deal that would crack open Britain’s health service and foist chlorinated American chicken on British shoppers.

>“This orange blow-in is brashly telling us how to conduct our own international affairs,” wrote Zoe Williams, a columnist at the Guardian, “and listening to him it is clear that a close relationship with Trump’s America would be as far removed from regaining sovereignty as it is possible to imagine. Allied to Trump, we’d be more of a satrapy than a nation state. We would be dominated by a power that was as raw as it was distant.”
lol US corporations are going to buy up British healthcare.
>“As the UK makes preparations to exit the European Union, the United States is committed to a phenomenal trade deal between the US and the UK. There is tremendous potential in that trade deal - I say probably two and even three times of what we are doing right now.”
No. 23136
Those of us who doesn't have their head up their ass knew this all along.

This is scary. It has been for some time but that makes it even scarier.
No. 23141
Ehehehe not even feel sorry for brits, they've been warned many times, but responded only with ignorance, arrogancy and impudent demands for even more opt-outs and privileges. Now enjoy your special brexit trade deals and special brexit position within a very special relationship.
No. 23148
Thing is though wouldn't any country not Britain that's within the EU end up being beholden to basically Franco-German center of gravity and their demands?
No. 23150
UK is still among the top 10 biggest economies in the world. It's not like they'll suddenly fade into irrelevance. This is just Trump and his farmer buddies being mercantilist as always.
No. 23155
Yes. It's why the EU is trapped in a downward spiral for roughly 20 years. German and British politicians have sold the EU in the late 90s. It was subtle and hard to see at first but has accalerated as these processes always do.
Still, there are a lot of differences between being at the mercy of the US and being at the mercy of Germany and Britain while still being member of the EU. There are other checks in place in the EU that slow down the spiral of corruption - against the US you are much more of a fucktoy with nobody able to help you.
No. 23157
Apparently people are mad at Pfizer for choosing not to pursue RCTs for their biologic, Etanercept, in regard to putative benefit for Alzheimer's Disease risk. However this finding comes from an internal case control study of insurance claims that sounds like it has a large potential for confounding (docs may be less likely to prescribe immunosuppressant drugs to people w/ greater risk for Alzheimer's Disease, owing to other characteristics of this group).

No. 23176
>Reclusive Japanese man killed by father who feared he might run amuck - media

>Fearing that his reclusive son might cause the public harm, a former top bureaucrat in Japan stabbed the 44-year-old to death, domestic media said, days after a mass stabbing by another recluse shook the nation. The incidents spotlight Japan’s growing legion of adult hikikomori, as they are known, people who live at home with their parents and seldom, if ever, venture out, spending their days in hermit-like seclusion.

>Tokyo metropolitan police said they arrested Hideaki Kumazawa, 76, on Saturday for attempted murder for allegedly stabbing his son with a knife. On Monday, media said he was now a murder suspect after the man died. National broadcaster NHK said Kumazawa, a former envoy to the Czech Republic, told investigators his alarm over his son was provoked by news last week of a knife-wielding man who slashed at a group of schoolgirls, killing two and injuring 17.

>The suspect in that incident was also middle-aged and rarely left the house where he lived with his elderly aunt and uncle. He killed himself soon after the stabbings. Kumazawa told police his son had been a recluse and sometimes violent, NHK said. The stabbing followed an argument in which he scolded his son for getting angry at the noise generated by a sports event at a nearby school, media said.

Better think twice before complaining about noisy children, Ernst.

There's nothing in this but the usual conjecture that Britain's NHS is about to be privatised. Trump's hot-air was jumped on out of context because of how the present battle-lines in British society have been drawn.

To say otherwise ignores that the United States currently lives in a free-trade zone with Canada and very nearly concluded TTIP with South Korea.

Farmer buddies is the right term to use. Just as in the negotiations for USMCA, UK-US trade will concern pushes from US states for liberalisation of specific industries like dairy from Wisconsin which have long been tied up by French-orientated protectionism.

That's not to say negotiations are going to be easy but it does point out that the US is a union of 50 states with broad consensus with London on liberalisation rather than butter mountains.

>Still, there are a lot of differences between being at the mercy of the US and being at the mercy of Germany and Britain while still being member of the EU

You paint the EU in too bright a light. The US is not going to suddenly implement a Common Fisheries Policy just before Britain joins a customs union in order to plunder our waters then act with bewilderment that American-skepticism is rampant in the UK.
No. 23182
fellow NEETs must demand justice for Kamazawa the younger!
No. 23200
>“#VoxAdpocalypse”, YouTube’s newest scandal, and Google’s subsequent tightening of the noose around unfriendly content, has people wondering how you kill a giant. A boycott is being suggested, but underlies the biggest issue with taking down Goliath: YouTube does not make money. YouTube has never made money. Google’s parent company Alphabet pays for YouTube out of pocket to control what information it puts in front of you.

>To summarize: if you watch something Alphabet does not want you to watch, it will start suggesting videos it does want you to watch. They go for the benign and easy example of Flat Earth Theory. If you watch a video about how the Earth is flat, it will propose you watch an ‘authoritative’ video on how that isn’t true. YouTube will start doing this with everything it wants, in accordance to its political objectives, and it will not tell you suggestions are politically motivated when doing so.

>Notice that YouTube also says it only targeted Americans with this new algorithm. That is because many foreign countries are more conservative than America, and are more religiously orthodox than America. Russia and eastern Europe in general is very unfriendly towards the LGBT. So, if Russians started noticing efforts to get them to watch pro-gay content on YouTube, it would cause outrage and encourage Yandex (Russia’s Google competitor) to consider opening competing platforms, eating into YouTube’s market share and loosening its grip. ?

>The goal is to tailor these suggestions and start shifting thought across nations with respect to the existing beliefs without being apparent.

>Google can also tailor these suggestions based on age. With LGBT as an example specifically, many older Slavic people may be completely unwelcoming, but the younger people might not care. See “Elsagate”, a 2017 YouTube scandal. At the time, nameless animation studios were pumping out hundreds of videos, and given titles that would be found by children searching for their favorite shows and characters, or things they’re curious about. Some of these cheap, weird, and often disturbing videos got viewed billions of times by children. So of course, YouTube can know if a viewer is a child, and, with all these ambitions combined, YouTube can use these suggestions to influence different demographics in different countries more effectively without alarming or upsetting older people in those regions.

>If Google knows who to put ads in front of to sell product, they know who to put opinions in front of to sell ideas.

No. 23204
this is an opinion blogpost, not a news article
No. 23206 Kontra
Considering that it involves a current event, I would argue that it's news-related, if not directly covering an event on the ground. Putting it in the "interesting blogs" thread wouldn't really apply since this is one article.
No. 23207 Kontra
fair enough
No. 23210
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REEDS BEACH, N.J. — On a recent spring day at this remote beach, hundreds of shorebirds flapped frantically beneath a net trapping them on the sand. Dozens of volunteers rushed to disentangle the birds and place them gently in covered crates.

On a nearby sand dune, teams of scientists and volunteers attached metal leg bands, plastic tags and tiny radio transmitters to birds of three species. They were weighed and measured, and then released.

The operation is part of an annual “catch” of migratory shorebirds that stop on the beaches of the Delaware Bay, a globally important bird habitat, to gorge on the eggs of spawning horseshoe crabs. The stopover strengthens the birds for the long-distance migration to the Canadian Arctic, their breeding grounds, from as far away as southern Chile.

With fresh information on the birds’ weight and health, the scientists will be able to judge whether these species are getting enough food to reach their breeding grounds, and whether their populations are stable.

One of them, the red knot, has been listed as a threatened species. Since 2000, red knot numbers have plunged as low as 10,000 in some years, around one-ninth of the level in the 1980s. At the moment, the population hovers at about 30,000, still too low to be sustainable, conservationists claim.

Additional challenges like severe Arctic weather during breeding, or coastal development along the migration route, could lead to the bird’s extinction. Populations of other migratory shorebirds, like semipalmated sandpipers and ruddy turnstones, have also declined.

The problem, conservationists say, is the overfishing of horseshoe crabs for commercial fishery bait and the harvesting of the animals for their blood, which contains an extract called L.A.L., used by the biomedical industry to detect certain bacteria.

Now, conservationists are renewing calls to halt the harvest for bait altogether, and to persuade the biomedical industry to switch to recombinant Factor C (rFC), a synthetic alternative to LAL, to ease pressure on the horseshoe crab population.

“The only responsible thing to do here is a moratorium,” said Eric Stiles, president of New Jersey Audubon, an environmental group leading the initiative.

Recognizing the threat to the birds, the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission, an interstate regulator, banned the harvest of female horseshoe crabs for bait starting in 2013, in the hope that a recovering population of females would lay more eggs and allow the birds to rebound.

While the commission maintains there has been an increase in the number of crabs since the ban, neither the crabs nor the red knot has recovered to the levels seen before the fishing industry’s unprecedented removal of the crabs from the bay in the 1990s.

The commission’s critics blame poor enforcement of the ban and the continued harvest of thousands of crabs for bleeding, which is estimated to kill at least 15 percent of them and may prevent the survivors from reproducing.

No. 23218
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Puffins are starving to death too
This is actually a really really bad sign which means it could be th canary in the coal mine to signal we're already facing total ecological collapse. This could actually be part of the signal that it's already too late and the entire food web could already be facing a biological cascade failure, which means all these city centers and society at large could be less than a few decades away from total collapse. Apparently all the oligarchs are already building their own bunkers and trying to figure out how to pay the guards to be loyal to them when money is worthless

After I arrived, I was ushered into what I thought was the green room. But instead of being wired with a microphone or taken to a stage, I just sat there at a plain round table as my audience was brought to me: five super-wealthy guys — yes, all men — from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world. After a bit of small talk, I realized they had no interest in the information I had prepared about the future of technology. They had come with questions of their own.

They started out innocuously enough. Ethereum or bitcoin? Is quantum computing a real thing? Slowly but surely, however, they edged into their real topics of concern.

Which region will be less impacted by the coming climate crisis: New Zealand or Alaska? Is Google really building Ray Kurzweil a home for his brain, and will his consciousness live through the transition, or will it die and be reborn as a whole new one? Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked, “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?”

The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr. Robot hack that takes everything down.

This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers — if that technology could be developed in time.

That’s when it hit me: At least as far as these gentlemen were concerned, this was a talk about the future of technology. Taking their cue from Elon Musk colonizing Mars, Peter Thiel reversing the aging process, or Sam Altman and Ray Kurzweil uploading their minds into supercomputers, they were preparing for a digital future that had a whole lot less to do with making the world a better place than it did with transcending the human condition altogether and insulating themselves from a very real and present danger of climate change, rising sea levels, mass migrations, global pandemics, nativist panic, and resource depletion. For them, the future of technology is really about just one thing: escape.

When the hedge funders asked me the best way to maintain authority over their security forces after “the event,” I suggested that their best bet would be to treat those people really well, right now. They should be engaging with their security staffs as if they were members of their own family. And the more they can expand this ethos of inclusivity to the rest of their business practices, supply chain management, sustainability efforts, and wealth distribution, the less chance there will be of an “event” in the first place. All this technological wizardry could be applied toward less romantic but entirely more collective interests right now.

They were amused by my optimism, but they didn’t really buy it. They were not interested in how to avoid a calamity; they’re convinced we are too far gone. For all their wealth and power, they don’t believe they can affect the future. They are simply accepting the darkest of all scenarios and then bringing whatever money and technology they can employ to insulate themselves — especially if they can’t get a seat on the rocket to Mars.

>And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Rev. 6:12-17
No. 23219 Kontra
Since Medium apparently unpublished this article:
No. 23226
>Leviticus 19:18
That's actually a good point, and one I utterly and completely fail to do. I'm sorry God, and I'm sorry you guys. I really am a bit of a reviler.
No. 23229
Are you a flagellant? Sincerely asking.
No. 23246
Am I..what? Where did that come from? And no, although I've seriously considered buying a Cilice and I still might some day. I don't physically whip myself though.
No. 23247
Publicly making apologies to God when nothing in this thread called for it (that is, apart from the username Joshua Moon chose for himself) prompted me to ask.

I'm not asking for an apology or trying to pry, but I'm just curious as to why you had to go the extra mile to invoke God and publicly apologize. It's...kind of creepy.
No. 23248
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And he just keeps fucking doing it
>It also raised concerns that the Saudis could gain access to technology that would let them produce their own versions of American precision-guided bombs — weapons they have used in strikes on civilians since they began fighting a war in Yemen four years ago.

>The emergency authorization allows Raytheon Company, a top American defense firm, to team with the Saudis to build high-tech bomb parts in Saudi Arabia. That provision, which has not been previously reported, is part of a broad package of information the administration released this week to Congress.

>The move grants Raytheon and the Saudis sweeping permission to begin assembling the control systems, guidance electronics and circuit cards that are essential to the company’s Paveway smart bombs. The United States has closely guarded such technology for national security reasons.

>Multiple reports by human rights groups over the past four years have singled out the weapons as being used in airstrikes on civilians. One attack, on a Sana funeral home in October 2016, led the Obama administration to suspend bomb sales to the Saudi-led coalition in Yemen.

>The new arrangement is part of a larger arms package, previously blocked by Congress, that includes 120,000 precision-guided bombs that Raytheon is prepared to ship to the coalition. These will add to the tens of thousands of bombs that Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have already stockpiled, and some in Congress fear the surplus would let the countries continue fighting in Yemen long into the future. The move also includes support for Saudi F-15 warplanes, mortars, anti-tank missiles and .50-caliber rifles.
Actually part of the previous package it seems but still. Why would this guy subvert Congressional authority to actually pass a SECRET deal giving the Saudis of all fucking people weapon components considered national security secrets?
No. 23249
I wouldn't call Paveway (presumably Paveway II) high tech. They're the budget option for PGMs. I wouldn't even consider them sensitive, the upgrade kit is from the 60s and it's not like they're getting laser updating IAMs which I would consider sensitive. Even India managed to make their own laser guidance kits, not to mention more developed industries like France and Russia.

I don't much care for the Saudis but the tone of that article is a bit sensationalist.
No. 23250
To expand slightly, a laser designator can transmit on a certain code (NATO standard 1688) and seeker heads are changed on the ground to track certain codes. The seeker will guide the bomb to a ~3-4m CEP (compared to the ~5m CEP of a JDAM that is fire and forget) based on where the laser is painting. Keep in mind that this is tracking a laser spot, and is not a beam rider so a direct line of sight to the target is required for the bomb.

The control surfaces are also pretty basic for what they do. They're binary in that they have on and off options only. It means that the bomb flies in a corrective zig-zag because there are no in-between corrections to make the flight smoother and increase effective range.

So what you end up with is a guided weapon that is not all-weather, and can be spoofed with things like dust or smoke. It's got its uses but it's not as much of an outrageous security breach as they make it seem.
No. 23291
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A Russian scientist says he is planning to produce gene-edited babies, an act that would make him only the second person known to have done this. It would also fly in the face of the scientific consensus that such experiments should be banned until an international ethical framework has agreed on the circumstances and safety measures that would justify them.

Molecular biologist Denis Rebrikov has told Nature he is considering implanting gene-edited embryos into women, possibly before the end of the year if he can get approval by then. Chinese scientist He Jiankui prompted an international outcry when he announced last November that he had made the world’s first gene-edited babies — twin girls.

The experiment will target the same gene, called CCR5, that He did, but Rebrikov claims his technique will offer greater benefits, pose fewer risks and be more ethically justifiable and acceptable to the public. Rebrikov plans to disable the gene, which encodes a protein that allows HIV to enter cells, in embryos that will be implanted into HIV-positive mothers, reducing the risk of them passing on the virus to the baby in utero. By contrast, He modified the gene in embryos created from fathers with HIV, which many geneticists said provided little clinical benefit because the risk of a father passing on HIV to his children is minimal.

Rebrikov heads a genome-editing laboratory at Russia’s largest fertility clinic, the Kulakov National Medical Research Center for Obstetrics, Gynecology and Perinatology in Moscow and is a researcher at the Pirogov Russian National Research Medical University, also in Moscow.

According to Rebrikov he already has an agreement with an HIV centre in the city to recruit women infected with HIV who want to take part in the experiment.

But scientists and bioethicists contacted by Nature are troubled by Rebrikov’s plans.

“The technology is not ready,” says Jennifer Doudna, a University of California Berkeley molecular biologist who pioneered the CRISPR-Cas9 genome-editing system that Rebrikov plans to use. “It is not surprising, but it is very disappointing and unsettling.”

Alta Charo, a researcher in bioethics and law at the University of Wisconsin-Madison says Rebrikov’s plans are not an ethical use of the technology. “It is irresponsible to proceed with this protocol at this time,” adds Charo, who sits on a World Health Organization committee that is formulating ethical governance policies for human genome editing.

No. 23293 Kontra
here's a twitter thread from a senior geneticist at ANU explaining why it's a dumb idea:

No. 23299
I've been following the election happenings in Brickistan. The result is as expected (le great khan's successor won), but the protesting is really interesting stuff. I don't have much hope in their success but that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to see them achieve positive change. I mean, they've even conscripted protesters recently because they couldn't find a legal reason to lock them up.
No. 23300
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Hyalomma marginatum ticks are known to be carried by migratory birds and imported livestock
but they usually died of in cold European winters. This is no longer the case (everywhere) and
the species has begun to overwinter at various locations in southern, central and eastern Europe.

They are much larger than endemic ticks, they can scent and chase humans (and other big animals)
for dozens of meters. The ticks are often hosts to a deadly virus called the Crimean-Congo Haemorrhagic fever
(CCHF). Symptoms of CCHF include fever, muscle pains, headache, vomiting, diarrhoea, and bleeding into the skin. 25%-40% of those infected with Crimean-Congo fever will die. There is no vaccine and no real medicine known or available against this virus. The World Health Organization named CCHF as one of 10 pathogens that pose the most 'urgent' threat to humanity.
Dr Lidia Chitimia-Dobler, tick expert at the University of Hohenheim and the Institute for Microbiology (IMB)
of the German Federal Armed Forces in Munich, said: "Five of the seven ticks we can determine beyond doubt,
four are the species Hyalomma marginatum and one of the kind Hyalomma rufipes. "We did not expect ticks here in
Germany at this time.” Dr Gerhard Dobler, physician and microbiologist at the IMB, added: “In one of the specimens found, we were able to prove the pathogen of a tropical form of tick typhus.”


No. 23301
Oh fug :-DDDDDDD

In other news, an old man was recently bit by a deer tick while gardening and later died of Powassan in North Jersey
No. 23302
If they stay they'll spread like a forest fire. We have growing wildlife and they ain't staying in one place.
This would be the time to think about killing ticks with aerial spraying or something. On telly years ago was a report about some poison which was way less harmful in the general sense than DDT but they ignored it since spiders and even some insects can fall as casualties but it seemed they weren't certain the extent of it and there was the implication that they would be all right.
Nevertheless, nothing will be done, infa 1000%.
No. 23314
And yet there are honest to God reviews on Steam of people getting royally asshurt because a game like Anno 2070 or Imagine Earth have themes of environmentalism or having to worry about climate change as a game mechanic. It's mindblowing how dumb people are.

This is one of the most well known problems of climate change and one of the reasons it's such a huge national security risk. As winters get milder all those delightful tropical diseases normally restricted to a place like Africa along with their vectors had been projected to keep moving northward.

I was also just reading how there's a huge ocean desert off the Gulf coast the size of Massachussets now.

Everything is even worse than scientists had already predicted, and what they predicted was catastrophic.

This is not good if it beings hemmhoragic fevers because of how densely packed Europe is. Freedom of movement laws combined with the poverty of Eastern Europe and the general dysfunction of the EU would be a perfect storm. At minimum it's going to cause cascade failures throughout Europe if an epidemic breaks out as the entire trade zone seizes up during national quarantines.

Imo it's just a matter of time now before we wind up with a decimating pandemic that also collapses the global economic and results in political chaos among other things.
No. 23321
The ticks have been imported by refugees (Just like all those other diseases that were though extinct in Europe and are showing up again since 2015) and will not survive the winter. Nothing to do with global warming or whatever you want to call it.
No. 23328 Kontra
Without the mild winter this specific species of tick could not have survived the winter, no matter who brought it here.

You seem to be unable to think beyond your triggers, I'd prefer you to leave this place or at least stop these reactionary opinion-posts.
No. 23345
Now that I'm thinking about this, it smells a little fishy.
"Our" ticks, deer ticks and such, survive the winter not because they are that resistant to cold, but because snow insulates very well, it keeps the temperature close to zero. If these "new" type of ticks could survive the mild winter (which was still below -10 on the Balkans easily) they can survive lower too, again due to the snow.
But I really should read those articles. Btw, first link gives me 404.

>general dysfunction of the EU
What do you mean? It functions how it should. EU isn't a country and doesn't have a proper centralized government. It does what it was created for, ensures a unified market and so on. The governments of member states can decide just fine how they should handle the situation, nothing prevents them. Ofc there are certain health regulations and guidelines I suppose, but member states also can cooperate without the EP.
No. 23348
>"Our" ticks, deer ticks and such, survive the winter not because they are that resistant to cold, but because snow insulates very well, it keeps the temperature close to zero. If these "new" type of ticks could survive the mild winter they can survive lower too.
Good point. I wonder if winter kills these new ticks because their behavior isn't adapted to the climate. In the US, africanized(killer)bees are only found in the Southern States because they can't survive Northern winters, but it's not only the temperature that kills them. They also die because they swarm more frequently than native bees. For a hive to survive the cold, it requires a sufficient food supply built up over the warm months. By swarming(breaking from their hive to start a new one)more often, and at inopportune times, africanized bees fail to store up enough food and die out. Maybe there is a similar explanation for why these ticks need warm weather; they might not know when to burrow, for example.
No. 23352
I knew someone would try to shoehorn their durrhurr muh rapefugees into this eventually. Those tropical and hub tropical diseases will spread north regardless because their vectors are wildlife. All it has to do is hitch rides on animals that can't pick them off the way we do and get introduced into native wildlife as migratory patterns keep shifting, not to mention the fact that you've got old diseases reappearing from melting permafrost in animal carcasses
Like I said it is a global warming problem and it's already partly to blame for causing mass extinction events and shifting the ranges of numerous animals.

>EU isn't a country and doesn't have a proper centralized government
Exactly. EU is still based on a framework of a trade cooperative. It isn't designed to handle this sort of thing just like it was so poorly adapted to handle the refugee crisis and just like it is poorly able to handle collective security. You guys currently have a very low ability to handle national and international security problems without help of the US. You won't have a well organized response to disease outbreaks the way the US does. It will require a rapid and well organized responsensithout the layers of bureaucracy a collective of nation states entails. You'll still have a better response than if far right nationalism broke apart the EU though.

And for that reason it likewise wont help the southern Europeans. Particularly in less developed Eastern Europe and the Balkans etc you're going to have a generalized problem with diseases for numerous reasons--in fact they already have, as Germans just recently got a wall built on their north at least officially to try and keep out things like swine fever, regardless of rumors of Russian biological warfare which is incredibly f'ing stupid if they did.

Europe and the world at large has been lucky so far we haven't had a serious pandemic for the last hundred years. It's long been predicted that one of the serious problems of climate change making it such a dire national security threat is disease, along with food security and refugee crises. One thing people forget is the entire Egyptian revolution that kicked off Arab Spring to begin with was due to food shortages and prices


Of course the fucking idiot we have in office doesn't want us to talk about that because he's truly a professional politician in the worst sense at this point and keeps trying to shut down anyone talking about it because it doesnt jibe with his political message

This is not him poopooing environmentalists; this is him deliberately shutting down military and intelligence analysts warning the steps we need to take to ensure national security due to climate change which the DoD has been warning us about for decades. The mans a fucking idiot. I don't even know why certain troglodytes even see this as a matter of political opinion. But then again, I also don't understand why Creationists and Flat Earthers are butthurt about the idea humanity can change the environment either. As it stands this has worried American farmers a lot. This isn't even mentioning the security threat of actual miles long migrant caravans being generated as crops fail this is actually impacting us right now. We've already had numerous crop failures up here due to it and it's already driving up food prices and starting to cause shortages and risks to our food security and USA is one of the top food producers on the planet
We've already experienced it and I've seen it first hand. Some of us keep having record draughts; others have been experiencing constant wet and cool summers. My extended family has a farm that's completely failed already. If it's already affecting us I cannot imagine how much it's been fucking up the developing world. The only people who think this isnt a problem are knuckledragger bugmen in the hive cities of GDI blue zones.
No. 23446
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Researchers have identified strains of cannabis burned in mortuary rituals as early as 500 B.C., deep in the Pamir mountains in western China, according to a new study published Wednesday. The residue had chemical signatures indicating high levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the plant’s most psychoactive, or mood-altering, compound.

You think the Grateful Dead were the first to wonder “what in the world ever became of sweet Jane?” That CBD gummies to assuage the anxious are anything new? That puffs of elevated consciousness started with Rocky Mountain highs?


“Modern perspectives on cannabis vary tremendously cross-culturally, but it is clear that the plant has a long history of human use, medicinally, ritually and recreationally over countless millennia,” said Robert Spengler, an archaeobotanist at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History in Jena, Germany, who worked on the study.

Cannabis stems and seeds had previously been found at a handful of burial sites around Eurasia, but the evidence at the Pamir cemetery, verified by advanced scientific technology, shows an even more direct connection between the plant and early ritual. The new findings expand the geographical range of cannabis use within the broader Central Asian region, said Mark Merlin, a professor of botany at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, who did not work on the research.

“The fact that strongly psychoactive ancient residue has been documented in laboratory testing is the key new finding,” said Dr. Merlin, a cannabis historian. He hypothesized that “It was used to facilitate the body communicating with the afterlife, the spirit world.”

The study was published in the journal Science Advances. The research team included archaeologists and chemists from the Chinese Academy of Sciences and the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in Beijing.

About 70 artifacts have been retrieved from the Pamir burial site so far, including glass beads, harps, pieces of silk and wooden bowls and plates. Perforations and cuts in some skulls and bones could suggest human sacrifice.

“We can start to piece together an image of funerary rites that included flames, rhythmic music and hallucinogen smoke, all intended to guide people into an altered state of mind,” the authors wrote in the study.

Ancient mourners apparently created the smoke by placing hot stones in wooden braziers — receptacles for flaming objects — and laying in cannabis plants, the researchers wrote. The residue was found on the insides of 10 braziers and on stones exhumed from eight tombs in the 2,500-year-old Jirzankal Cemetery.

The chemical signatures were isolated and identified through a procedure known as gas chromatography-mass spectrometry.

Although cannabis seeds have been found in a few other sites, no such seeds were found here. Archaeobotanists theorize that either the seeds had already been removed and discarded or that mourners deliberately chose nonflowering plant parts, such as stems, for the rituals.

Among the provocative questions raised by the findings are how and why mourners singled out the higher potency strains. Wild cannabis, which grows commonly across the well-watered mountain foothills of Central Asia, typically has low levels of cannabinol, a metabolite of THC, the researchers wrote.

Instead, these higher THC levels suggest that “people may have been cultivating cannabis and possibly actively selecting for stronger specimens,” they added.

Scientists Find Ancient Humans Used Weed 2,500 Years Ago, Too
No. 23463

EU members aren't happy, and "German Bundesbank comes clean on euro default risks after Italy's 'parallel currency' decree"

Also, apparently Italian mafia was already using the old lira as a paralel currencies all along
No. 23464
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Massive power cut hits all of Argentina
All of Argentina and Uruguay are without power, supplier says, affecting about 48m people.
No. 23465
What's argentinas current government relation to the USA? Are we going to see a new head of state the power comes back up?

Also, source please.
No. 23466
Wait a minute. This incident occurs just as the New York Times publishes a propaganda-article about the US being able to kill Russias power?

Spoiler: Representative for the state of US education they fucked up their geography test and nuked the wrong country.
No. 23477
I was wondering about that too...
Plus it overall sounds like the US has been staging false flag attacks against tankers throughout the Strait of Hormuz. It's actually making me worried about WWIII.
No. 23493
>It's actually making me worried about WWIII.

And you should be, well not you, you will be isolated on your continent, but the rest of us will get fucked again. But then again there is Taiwan. China actually can fuck up parts of your continent as opposed to Iran who can only fuck up the economy.
No. 23497
I live in a red zone. If Russia and the US go to real WWIII I'm either going to be vaporized, or worse but possibly more likely, be caught in the middle of a firestorm. Odds are I'd have just enough time to consciously register a blinding flash and wonder if I'm having a seizure before noticing everything getting really hot and my roof getting blown off. I'll probably wake up trapped in a burning pile of debris frantically trying to dig myself out as I burn to death. Yay.
No. 23518
I think the tanker attacks are actually done by Iran/Houthis, as a warning of what they can do if full war actually comes. Dolts like Bolton and the Gulf Arabs need strong visual reminders of why war with Iran is a very bad idea.
No. 23519
I agree to an extent. It's not them showing their fangs though. They're growling a bit to show that the fangs exist however. NEDAJA doctrine is highly focused on control of the Straits of Hormuz and their fleet is weighted heavily towards missile boats. This demonstrates that they have an ability to patrol the waters and interdict unfriendly shipping quickly and precisely, it's not about cautioning against war so much as it is just letting them know that they are a whole lot closer than the USN is and aren't going anywhere. Peacetime strongarm tactics is my semi-educated guess. If they wanted to caution about war, they just had to lob a Sunburn at something and call it a 'misfire'.

It fits what is known of their capability too much to be a false flag. Plus there are easier ways to false flag which would also fan the flames more effectively, such as an SSM strike. Shoot it at one of yours, you defend against it and say it came from their side. You use a small enough vessel and you can probably crew it with people who will keep their mouths shut too. That's a false flag that is military weapons fired in anger on your side. If you want to rustle up the jingoists, then that's the way to do it.
No. 23522
I wonder if it could actually be the Revolutionary Guards doing their own thing as people theorise they are prone to. The US has rustled their jimmies by listing them as a terrorist organisation and meanwhile hardliners see Iran dancing around getting the nuclear programme running again with the EU.

It should be said that at this point the Iranian Navy is heavily complemented by small Revolutionary Guard vessels who have their own command structure and clandestine operations.
No. 23523
No. 23529
And there are countries that have a lot more experience in regional maritime security who posit otherwise. What of it? The Japanese government is about as omniscient as any other, that is to say not at all.

Plus it's just frankly more likely that Iranian patrol boats, operating in what is the understood doctrine of the Iranian military, did something dumb in a tense political situation than it is that the US fabricated the entire thing to net themselves virtually nothing by merit of making a mild irritant of a false flag instead of a true inflammation of public outrage.

Who really won? Iran makes a play with no real response from their opponent. That's a propaganda loss for their opponent and a win for their home presses, both at the same time, creating a larger net victory. The losing party there is the side that apparently set the whole thing up? I'm not seeing it.
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In unimportant but unintentionally funny news it seems another retard from vierkanal went on a shooting spree this time in Dallas
>Clyde’s Facebook page is otherwise filled with vague warnings of an upcoming attack, conspiracy theories about the U.S. government, memes from far-right internet subcultures like 4chan, and misogynist memes.
>References to incels, or the “involuntary celibate” internet community that is prominent on extreme misogynist message boards, are frequently posted in memes on Clyde’s page.
No. 23539
Dogs evolved eyebrows due to us
Which is not surprising. What is surprising to me is they evolved an entirely new muscle group just to do it.
No. 23540
I find that funny, because according to Herodot the ancient egyptians shaved their eyebrows when the family cat died.
A (somewhat constructed) example of how dogs are mans pet but man is the cats pet.

Also, I find it strange to say that dogs evolved to better communicate with humans when there was so little natural selection and so much breeding going on.
No. 23543
What's more amazing is that he was spectacularly incompetent. Judging by his digital footprint, he was a dumb fuck LARPer high on his ego. Semper Fi to the men who swiftly dealt with this cretin:
No. 23545
I imagine it's to cool tensions more than sincere belief, although at an official level it is important to not go pointing fingers until there is firm proof (although the US can have proof fabricated e.g. the bullshit "chemical" attacks).
No. 23548
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>when Corbyn is more important than the entire Scotland
Who would have thought that almost 40 years ago the bongs were ready to wage a war for some obscure pisspoor island in the middle of nowhere

Also, Kudrin, former Russian minister of finance, current chairman of the accounts chamber and one of the most high-ranking liberals and pro-Westerners in the Russian government, is bitching right now about how the state allocates large extra sums of money to achieve certain goals like reduction of the amount of people living below national poverty line, the effect of these injections is small and not comparable with the amount of money allocated.
I like the way some Russian officials talk about the state's corruption, but they don’t want to blame the government openly. Putin himself likes to pay lip service to the Russian economy, often talking about ambitious national plans, resource mobilization, the free market and the protection of business, but in fact any government initiative fails because of the high level of corruption and many businessmen exploit the corruption of the state to eliminate competition. There are "untouchables" in the state, corrupt and ineffecient people like Yakunin or Sechin heading major state companies and staying in the offices thanks to their connections and loyalty.

The situation reminds me of the Russian empire, when the elites and the tsar himself knew perfectly well what reforms the lower class wanted but didn't want to sacrifice part of their own power and wealth for the sake of stability. Occasionally people like Sergei Witte or Kosygin appear and try to carry out the necessary reforms that would save the state in the long term, but the resistance of the elites thwarts the attempts until it is too late.
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Da! Xaxaxa, da!
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>Those Tory numbers
Is this what a banzai-charge looks like? Why is the percentage higher for Scotland leaving than for damage to the economy? Holy fucking shit, what are they doing?
No. 23571
Fatnik mentality it seems. They are willing to crash their economy with no survivors including liberation of Scotland and Ireland and the complete destruction of Conservatives, just so long as the scary socialist attacking oligarchs and Israel doesnt get power. It's truly a glorious thing to see. They won't admit they are wrong at this point and we can watch the sea monster finally drive itself off a cliff. What a bunch of complete fucking idiots. Although if they also lose Scotland wont that also remove rights to oil reserves along with it? This is amazing. They're completely willing to destroy themselves over this and even had the brilliant plan of not just May being left in charge but now guess, just take a guess, what brilliant scion of English thought is being left in charge next Boris Johnson of all people https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/johnson-extends-lead-in-race-to-be-next-uk-premier-stewart-out
No. 23574
>Won't that remove the oil rights?
Yes. That's why the English did everything to stop Scotland from leaving during their referendum.
An independent Scotland's only problem would be that the oilfields are hastily depleting if I remember correctly, so they can't rely on it long term all that much, but for now, they'd be better off economically. (This is just stuff I remember from the time the independence vote was held.)
>The Right Honourable Boris Johnson, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom
I think Brexit has transcended even the most contrarian of expectations by now.
And if we are judging by the direction the events took so far, The Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn, Chairman of the Commune of England isn't all that far off in the distance now.
No. 23722
Four toddlers were so severely ill and neglected at a U.S. Border Patrol facility in McAllen, Texas, that lawyers forced the government to hospitalize them last week.

The children, all under age 3 with teenage mothers or guardians, were feverish, coughing, vomiting and had diarrhea, immigration attorneys told HuffPost on Friday. Some of the toddlers and infants were refusing to eat or drink. One 2-year-old’s eyes were rolled back in her head, and she was “completely unresponsive” and limp, according to Toby Gialluca, a Florida-based attorney.

No. 23723 Kontra
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A chaotic scene of sickness and filth is unfolding in an overcrowded border station in Clint, Tex., where hundreds of young people who have recently crossed the border are being held, according to lawyers who visited the facility this week. Some of the children have been there for nearly a month.
Children as young as 7 and 8, many of them wearing clothes caked with snot and tears, are caring for infants they’ve just met, the lawyers said. Toddlers without diapers are relieving themselves in their pants. Teenage mothers are wearing clothes stained with breast milk.
Most of the young detainees have not been able to shower or wash their clothes since they arrived at the facility, those who visited said. They have no access to toothbrushes, toothpaste or soap.
“There is a stench,” said Elora Mukherjee, director of the Immigrants’ Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School, one of the lawyers who visited the facility. “The overwhelming majority of children have not bathed since they crossed the border.”
Conditions at Customs and Border Protection facilities along the border have been an issue of increasing concern as officials warn that the recent large influx of migrant families has driven many of the facilities well past their capacities. The border station in Clint is only one of those with problems.
In May, the inspector general for the Department of Homeland Security warned of “dangerous overcrowding” among adult migrants housed at the border processing center in El Paso, with up to 900 migrants being held at a facility designed for 125. In some cases, cells designed for 35 people were holding 155 people.
“Border Patrol agents told us some of the detainees had been held in standing-room-only conditions for days or weeks,” the inspector general’s office said in its report, which noted that some detainees were observed standing on toilets in the cells “to make room and gain breathing space, thus limiting access to the toilets.”
Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas on Friday announced the deployment of 1,000 new National Guard troops to the border to help respond to the continuing new arrivals, which the governor said have amounted to more than 45,000 people from 52 countries over the past three weeks.
“The crisis at our southern border is unlike anything we’ve witnessed before and has put an enormous strain on the existing resources we have in place,” Mr. Abbott said, adding, “Congress is a group of reprobates for not addressing the crisis on our border.”
The number of border crossings appears to have slowed in recent weeks, possibly as a result of a crackdown by the Mexican government under pressure from President Trump, but the numbers remain high compared to recent years. The overcrowding crisis has been unfolding invisibly, with journalists and lawyers offered little access to fenced-off border facilities.
The reports of unsafe and unsanitary conditions at Clint and elsewhere came days after government lawyers in court argued that they should not have to provide soap or toothbrushes to children under the legal settlement that gave Ms. Mukherjee and her colleagues access to the facility in Clint. The result of a lawsuit that was first settled in 1997, the settlement set the standards for the detention, treatment and release of migrant minors taken into federal immigration custody.
Ms. Mukherjee is part of a team of lawyers who has for years under the settlement been allowed to inspect government facilities where migrant children are detained. She and her colleagues traveled to Clint this week after learning that border officials had begun detaining minors who had recently crossed the border there.
She said the conditions in Clint were the worst she had seen in any facility in her 12-year career. “So many children are sick, they have the flu, and they’re not being properly treated,” she said. According to the Associated Press, which first reported the conditions at the facility, said on Wednesday that the station was housing three infants, all with teen mothers, along with a 1-year-old, two 2-year-olds and a 3-year-old. It said there were dozens more children under the age of 12.
Ms. Mukherjee said children were being overseen by guards for Customs and Border Protection, which declined to comment for this story. She and her colleagues observed the guards wearing full uniforms — including weapons — as well as face masks to protect themselves from the unsanitary conditions.
Together, the group of six lawyers met with 60 children in Clint this week who ranged from 5 months to 17 years old. The infants were either children of minor parents, who were also detained, or had been separated from adult family members with whom they had crossed the border. The separated children were now alone, being cared for by other young detainees.
“The children are locked in their cells and cages nearly all day long,” Ms. Mukherjee said. “A few of the kids said they had some opportunities to go outside and play, but they said they can’t bring themselves to play because they are trying to stay alive in there.”
When the lawyers arrived, federal officials said that more than 350 children were detained at the facility. The officials did not disclose the facility’s capacity but said the population had exceeded it. By the time the lawyers left on Wednesday night, border officials told them that about 200 of the children had been transferred elsewhere but did not say where they had been sent.
“That’s what’s keeping me up at night,” Ms. Mukherjee said.
Some sick children were being quarantined in the facility. The lawyers were allowed to speak to the children by phone, but their requests to meet with them in person and observe the conditions they were being held in were denied.
The children told the lawyers they were given the same meals every day — instant oats for breakfast, instant noodles for lunch, a frozen burrito for dinner, along with a few cookies and juice packets — which many said was not enough. “Nearly every child I spoke with said that they were hungry,” Ms. Mukherjee said.
Another group of lawyers conducting inspections under the same federal court settlement said they discovered similar conditions earlier this month at six other facilities in Texas. At the Border Patrol’s Central Processing Center in McAllen, Tex. — often known as “Ursula” — the lawyers encountered a 17-year-old mother from Guatemala who couldn’t stand because of complications from an emergency C-section, and who was caring for a sick and dirty premature baby.
“When we encountered the baby and her mom, the baby was filthy. They wouldn’t give her any water to wash her. And I took a Kleenex and I washed around her neck black dirt,” said Hope Frye, who was leading the group, adding, “Not a little stuff — dirt.”
After government lawyers argued in the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco this week that amenities such as soap and toothbrushes should not be mandated under the legal settlement originally agreed to between the government and migrant families in 1997 and amended several times since then, all three judges voiced dismay.
Among the guidelines set under the legal settlement are that facilities for children must be “safe and sanitary.”
The Justice Department’s lawyer, Sarah Fabian, argued that the settlement agreement did not specify the need to supply hygienic items and that, therefore, the government did not need to do so.
“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do anything other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” Judge William Fletcher asked Ms. Fabian. “I find that inconceivable that the government would say that is safe and sanitary.”

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The question is should Britain cancel a hugely polarised policy, voted for by the majority of the British public, if it means that a region might itself vote to leave. The implication being should 5 million hold a veto on the remaining 61 million for an audience of predominantly English conservatives who feel their identity is marginalised. Keep in mind we're still officially a unitary state on top of that.

Obviously with Corbyn you have to consider how he is viewed by the Conservative membership and a portion of his own party which I imagine even furriners could guess.


It's not a 'liberation' but a return of the Troubles and every side has completely mishandled the situation:

Not that people anywhere in Great Britain think about Northern Ireland all that much. 'Give us a position so long as it's not ethnic cleansing' is quite rightly about as far as anyone with sense will go.

>if they also lose Scotland wont that also remove rights to oil reserves along with it

North Sea oil is at the end of its life, but this is also complicated as the nearby islands people would rather remain in the United Kingdom than be a part of an independent Scotland.

I should add that, contrary to SNP propaganda, a referendum is not coming in the immediate future. Polling still puts remain in the lead and the SNP is currently busy with its own internal struggles, storm-clouds the budget and now a dispute with the Dublin (and Reykjavik) over fishing rights around Rockall. This is why the Scottish Government had to be effectively forced by the party to bring a bill for another referendum (but which has no date).
No. 23914
Mexican cartels are getting into fuel theft and sales by tapping into pipelines. They have help from PEMEX insiders.
No. 23924
I think it's all kinds of pathetic and retarded the shit they're giving AOC over calling it what it is. Note to fuckhead journalists/politicians: they literally are concentration camps. What you're thinking of is a death camp. Auschwitz was a death camp. Many of the others gradually got turned into death camps from concentration camps which is literally what the KZs were called. I also find it pretty funny but horribly sad that after all this shit about FEMA camps, we now literally have those camps operating out in the open.
No. 23929
Yet another political debate reduced to an argument over semantics. 'Concentration camp' is just such a loaded term that there's no incentive for anyone to stick their neck out and posit that it's actually the most humane solution to a large body of undocumented people entering your country. What are the alternatives if you're not going to send them back at gunpoint or simply let them walk the streets unchecked? People need to be kept and processed somewhere while their asylum claims are processed. The fact that these centres are clearly unfit for purpose doesn't mean they're an utterly inhumane response, just one that's managed badly.
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> that it's actually the most humane solution to a large body of undocumented people entering your country
Because it literally isn't. They aren't even bothering to give children toothbrushes or soap in their holding cells and quite frankly this is 'merica. Memes aside this is supposed to be a free country and I for one won't stand for that kind of horseshit happening here, immigrants or not. Not even imprisoned felons get treated like that. Furthermore it's quite clear to me at this point if you knew anything about how the US works that someone is probably getting allocated money from the state to take care of them and pocketing the rest, which means someone is probably profiting off the state by not spending money on basic shit like soapyes I am aware how Russia tier it is but those are the facts https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/alabama-sheriff-charged-with-scamming-food-bank-church/ar-AACTof0

>What are the alternatives if you're not going to send them back at gunpoint or simply let them walk the streets unchecked? People need to be kept and processed somewhere while their asylum claims are processed
>and processed
You know, that exact language is used for prison inmates, and I don't think you realize how much we're teetering on becoming a full-on police state here already, so as a civil libertarian I'm flatly opposed to this kind of crap, and I'm not the guy who posted those links either. Fact of the matter is in every regime first they test out the system on the undesirables, and then they move up to citizens. So far as I'm concerned they're FEMA camps.
>The fact that these centres are clearly unfit for purpose doesn't mean they're an utterly inhumane response,
I disagree
>just one that's managed badly.
Well you're 100% right on that one at least. I also don't fucking support border patrol suddenly getting the legal right to hassle everybody deep inside our own borders. It's creeping fascism that's going to just be inflicted on the average person more and more.

I for one also happen to agree with Rand Paul on just about most things but
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rand-paul-equates-immigration-action-internment-camps he's been oddly silent this whole time over this crap.

And in case you have forgotten the sad reality of how far gone the country already is, pic related. I don't know what happened to that guy but I'd be pretty fucking butthurt about that travesty of justice, and you're saying we should just let the government have its way with Freedom even more now?
No. 23936
I very obviously wasn't defending the fact that their living conditions are terrible. It is possible to detain people humanely and your authorities are clearly reneging on this responsibility.

As for your other point, you'll have to accept that you're in a fringe position. Most citizens of any country do not approve of the idea that an unlimited number of people can cross their borders undocumented and face no form of sanction. They will expect the state to enforce their wishes, albeit in a humane fashion. Even from a libertarian standpoint you're prioritising the rights of non-citizens over the rights of citizens. I would describe myself as a classic liberal (not the American definition). I expect my state to have as little interference as possible in my life while providing my security. And while yes, the threat of undocumented immigrants is often overblown, it is still a threat.

My support for detainment centres, or whatever euphemistic/pejorative name people call them, is one of reluctance. I instinctively don't like seeing people herded like cattle. But if the options are to let them enter my society without so much as identification, turn them away at the border by force, or to detain them somewhere relatively comfortable while their claim to asylum is examined, then I'll choose the latter. It seems America is aiming for the fourth option - detain them in horrible enough conditions and maybe people will stop trying. Sadly, they won't.
No. 23938
>you'll have to accept that you're in a fringe position. Most citizens of any country do not approve of the idea that an unlimited number of people can cross their borders undocumented and face no form of sanction.
Where the hell did you even get that from? How can your brain even operate that anyone opposed to sticking people in concentration camps is suddenly supporting unlimited open borders?

Like I said, there are numerous ways of dealing with this without creating a bunch of KZs and a bunch of fascist dickheads suddenly having extra powers to fuck with US citizens just because you're a hundred miles from the border of not just Mexico but also Canada. Last I heard France doesnt have KZs. Britain doesnt have KZs. Australians do but they're retarded cunts living on a prison island inside a death world. Japan doesn't have KZs. Like I don't think you even understand the sheer scale of police state bullshit we are dealing with over here, or you do, because you're British and think that's normal now. It isn't. And the slide to becoming a complete shithole state like Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia and so on often begins like that.

I was amazed and appalled to find out schools are now using cops as basically enforcers within schools and arresting kids for stupid shit you used to get sent to detention for, which is creating this mindset in all the younger fucktards that somehow all of this is normal. People under 20 haven't even got a clue what a free society looks like anymore, so yes, anything like a police state I fundamentally am opposed to and hate with a violently fiery passion as any red blooded American should. It's crap like this that keeps making me want to flee to Ireland or France or Canada or NZ or whatever before the nightmare truly begins and they just start shipping people to death camps on military bases after some economic collapse.
No. 23943
We have immigrant detention centres for ongoing asylum claims. France also has them, notably the Calais 'jungle'. In fact migrant detention camps can be found in many far fringes of the EU where illegal immigrants arrive, such as Spain's exclave within North Africa.

So if you're not going to allow unlimited immigration, you're not going to turn people away, and you're not going to place them in some kind of group housing facility, what is your solution? My feeble brain, so used as it is to a life of 'fascist dickheads' and their 'KZs', can't think of it.

You're clearly the smartest person in the room so please tell me the solution to this problem. No fascism allowed.
No. 23944
I'm saying why not turn them away if they haven't gone through the application process.
No. 23945
Or better yet create actual housing for people if they're claiming asylum, not sticking them in pens.
No. 23947
For what it's worth, I don't think you are too far off. You can see a very similar development here in the EU, we're just a few years behind you guys and we are moving at a slower pace, but that allows most people to explain away the problem or ignore it outright.

I don't think the US can come back from this, not even if by some miracle you manage to put Sanders in office and he genuinely tries to do all that he promises.
No. 23968 Kontra
It will get worse and sadly migrants and other will be blamed because those who created this situation does not want to be on the receiving end of the sharp pointy stick. It is also easier for dumb people to blame others because they are different, like history has failed to teach us over and over again.

When the climate crisis really hits us, I mean really hits us, there will be a massive wave of refugees, wars over resources and other things only imagined in apocalyptic movies. If you think you are protected in your nice western countries, you aren't. The ones created this will lock them selves up in their towers and feed us scraps pointing to the horrible savages at the border trying to rape your cattle. Oh and they will bleed you dry, "sorry they Suez channel is not secure we got to raise prices", "sorry the drought somewhere is forcing us to raise prices" "sorry our blatant greed is forcing us to raise prices"

The US is at the end game now, Europe is beginning too. We can see it in right wing movement glorifying an unexisting past, economic liberal policies loosening workers rights under the pretence of growth. If we wanted to stop it we could, but we are all a bunch of spoiled kids crying because we can't get the nice bike our neighbour has. We will get what we deserve in the end.
No. 23970
> "He believes deeply in a higher power and trusts that with the support of his friends, family, and faith, this too shall pass," Dowd said.

Oh, that makes it ok. Never mind he is a good boy who didn't do nuttin.
No. 24078
Ice and hail storm in Guadalajara, Mexico:

I've checked and... that this is not normal weather in Guadalajara this time of year.

No. 24111
"Climate change isnt real" they said. I just read an article and the terrifying thing is I don't think anybody knows how incredibly dangerous this is to all life on earth and how the earth's climate has been changed by organisms in the past radically altering the planet and causing a mass extinction event
No. 24112 Kontra
It has happened before that an organism wiped out most life by transforming the atmosphere of the planet over long time periods. We are doing it over decades. I don't quite think most people are aware of the fact we are literally terraforming the earth into an environment hostile to most life.
No. 24113 Kontra
Oh fuck never mind that blog it is shit but has some interesting sources.
the basic gist of it is that there is a possibility warming the earth too much can kill off the phytoplankton that produces a lot of the planet's oxygen, which in turn is going to globally decrease the amount of breathable O2. In fact the oceans already are having huge die offs and piles of dead animals washing up with all the coral dying etc whic means we could already be reaching or have reached that tipping point and not even noticed, but regardless the fact of the matter is oxygen in the ocean is rapidly being depleted at the moment, which is a really bad sign for terrestrial life.
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I've been following this submarine for a while and was surprised to see it in the news. It's a fascinating design for deep-sea operations. Most submarines can't safely five below a few hundred metres but Losharik can go much deeper since it's partly designed to fiddle around with undersea cabling. It has a series of spherical pressure hulls linked by corridors which is why it is named after the creature 'Losharik' ('Horse-Ball-Thing') from old Soviet TV.

I wish my country still made such cool things. Or maybe it does, who knows. Anyway I feel sad for the sailors, dying on a submarine is not a nice way to go.
No. 24122
I thought that the things most responsible for our oxygen were those primitive photosynthesizes to whom oxygen is a toxic byproduct of their metabolism (can't remember names), which means that every time the levels of oxygen in the oceans drop they can reproduce more and and produce more oxygen. The limiting factor here is how much access they have to light, because since the surrface of the oceans and the atmostphere itself is full of oxygen, they have to live more in the depts where there's little light.
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why russians never memed this?
No. 24135
What the fuck exactly happened there, did Russians made an underwater chernobyl or something? At the same time of the submarine incident both the Americans and Europeans had some emergency discussions in defense-related forums.
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They're saying that the huge problem here is that yes indeed the bulk of earth's oxygen is actually produced by those sorts of things like phytoplankton and microbes and in the ocean but the problem is they can't live beyond a certain temperature range and global warming could start killing them all off similar to how we are already seeing vast tracts of barren ocean deserts forming and oceanic die offs with octopuses and penguins and fish and all kinds of complex life and such. Which means we may not even know it if it could be happening already or in the future, beyond the fact that suddenly everyone is having much more problems to breath. I am already feeling like I am being suffocated on a hot day perhaps for unrelated reasons but it's making me increasingly paranoid the magnitude of the anthropocene extinction event and whether it will take us all with us alongside the majority of currently extant earth life.
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This fits in the recent bad news about the global ecology stream:

Scientists discovered the largest seaweed bloom ever detected, spanning the Atlantic over 8,850 km, from West-Africa to Mexico.

No. 24192
I like how nobody answered this. Probably because there is no answer that Russian high command and possibly Western intelligence is willing to share with us. My best guess would be either the usual Russian incompetence or Western evil sabotaging it.
No. 24195
The answer is that nobody really knows. Probably won't know for many years. Submarines are up there on the NOYFB scale because most of the information is sensitive. I mean in 2017, the USS Jimmy Carter (a particularly spooky USN sub) came home flying the jolly roger and the mission that was apparently successful remains unknown to the public.
No. 24224
Hot box.
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>Anita Sarkeesian [is] a feminist critic who made a name for herself with a group of YouTube videos highlighting sexist tropes in video games. She also received a lot of threats and made news when she canceled a talk in Utah over the fear that concealed carry permit holders would be allowed to bring their weapons into the venue. That same year, 2014, Sarkeesian’s Feminist Frequency organization became a recognized non-profit and, as a result, she was required to file an annual report on the money she raised and spent.

>According to those reports (see video below) Sarkeesian’s group, which had two employees plus a producer, has raised and spent about $1.6 million over the past five years. But it seems that is coming to an end. A lengthy profile of Sarkeesian published by Polygon this week reports that earlier this year she laid off her two employees and stopped taking a salary:


>Earlier this year, Sarkeesian decided that Feminist Frequency needed to change. She ceased taking a salary and laid off her co-creators and close friends Ebony Adams and Petit. She closed her offices and stopped making videos.

>Feminist Frequency is still going, but it’s now mainly focused on a regular podcast hosted by Adams, Petit, and Sarkeesian. It’s a purely voluntary organization.

>Sarkeesian has no pat answer to the question of why she’s decided to move on; no “it was just time.” The answers are more complicated.

>Partly it’s about money. “Fundraising is always a struggle,” she says. “Paying my staff is always a struggle. I’m capable of fundraising. I learned how to do it through the process of running a nonprofit. But I didn’t get into this work to be a fundraiser.”

>Feminist Frequency relied heavily on corporations willing to fund the sort of work that looks into intersectional feminist critiques of commercial art. When corporations make financial commitments to non-profits, they like to make song-and-dance about their noblesse-oblige, most especially when it portrays them in a positive light.

>But they’re also prone to nickel-and-diming once favorable media coverage fades. Sarkeesian won’t talk specifics, but it’s clear that corporate generosity crept away once she outlived her usefulness.

>Earlier this month, Sarkeesian noted that fundraising problems on her Twitter feed while taking a shot at Electronic Arts: “@femfreq has been a non profit on the front lines of this issue for years constantly struggling with funding.”

>Just last week, Sarkeesian was seen offering her services to the creators of a forthcoming game, Cyberpunk 2077, on the grounds that the game might get dragged by “the whole of the internet” for “some potentially sexist representations.” Cyberpunk 2077 is expected to be a big release. The game was introduced at E3 this year by Keanu Reeves who plays a character in the game.

>Feminist Frequency’s annual reports demonstrate that the group was down to its last $30,000 in January. But as the video below points out the real problem isn’t just a lack of corporate donors, it’s a lack of public interest. The group has more than 200,000 subscribers on YouTube but the average podcast it released this year only had a few thousand listeners. That’s not much impact for a group that spent several hundred thousand dollars in 2018 on salaries and other expenses
No. 24261 Kontra
>Anita Sarkeesian

Nigga 2014 was 5 years ago
No. 24262
>Sarkeesian was seen offering her services to the creators of a forthcoming game, Cyberpunk 2077, on the grounds that the game might get dragged by “the whole of the internet” for “some potentially sexist representations.”
Wait, she tried to blackmail CDPR? That's hilarious.
No. 24264 Kontra
>that fucking article
You can fuck off dude. No one gives a shit about this and clearly you're a 4kanker immigrant.
No. 24266 Kontra
Archive . is is sometimes useful insofar as it allows one to easily circumvent paywalls, but I agree that the article linked above sounds retarded
No. 24270
Yeah, it's kinda rich she thought she had that much clout, but this ultimately means nothing. Anita's incompetence is a perfect example of someone high on their own supply, but big companies are willing to cater to the woke demographic internally and externally. HR is institutionalized political correctness, so they have to justify these departments' existences by giving them work and keeping them to avoid potentially crippling discrimination or sexual harassment lawsuits. To further take heat off of the company leaders, they'll forge consumer brand loyalty by marketing towards demographics with deep pockets especially the LGBT community. If these companies have political ambitions (hello, Google), they'll even be willing to lose money to sway public opinion towards desired political causes.

tl;dr: "Get woke, go broke" is a meme that misses the big picture.
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Look I want to preface this by saying, the news thread here is not a chance to whinge about retarded af American politics and, somehow managing to be even worse than that shitshow, American kulturkampf. Nobody gives a fuck. That being stated
> but big companies are willing to cater to the woke demographic internally and externally
Well yeah welcome to Capitalism. It's the same reason they went so echo friendly, or organic, or started the whole completely fucktarded gluten free shit. Like I have seriously seen "gluten free!" labels on dumb crap like idk orange juice or something that is obviously gluten free to begin with, just because a bunch of dumbasses are buying it.

> HR is institutionalized political correctness
The fuck? No, it isn't. Do you even have a job, sir?

> and keeping them to avoid potentially crippling discrimination or sexual harassment lawsuits.
Guess what shit like that is literally every fucking company. It's why we have shit like "WARNING: CONTENTS HOT" labels on coffee. This isn't some sort of political agenda from the anti-coffee lobby or tea feminists--this is because of structural and legal issues. Every single company wants to guard its ass from potential lawsuits, and we've got those potential lawsuits specifically as a consumer protection thing which tends to work because we don't actually have a free market society but instead usually small clusters of massive companies with no genuine competition, so the potential for a lawsuit winds up being a good thing to keep them on their toes not to poison us.

Not that I personally mind eating an old sandwich though, because we throw out absolutely phenomenal amounts of food in this country for similar reasons. Like a single prepped sandwich is going to sit there for like a day or two, maybe three absolute tops depending where it came from, and then it's thrown out. Most sandwiches are thrown out. Dunkin Donuts tosses amazing amounts of donuts. I knew people in college who just went and got a trashbag full of donuts once and you know what they weren't even stale, but hey. The only thing preventing this amount of waste to satisfy consumer demands for freshness while also avoiding lawsuits is a company's profit motive, meaning that they try to anticipate fulfilling demand as efficiently as possible with the lowest amount of waste so it doesn't cut into costs of production, and that's the only thing putting any sort of brake on food destruction.

How is this all related? Again, lawsuits. It isn't just about harassment at work. And yeah, guess what not all a company's clientele is white or male so they really don't give a fuck about your complaining about this shit unless you somehow had more people fucking up their profits. Company's only pay lip service to these things, and it's purely out of pragmatic, cold, calculating greed aka the profit incentive.

As a result company's will pretend to be openly against racism, and do shit like support Kaepernic, simply because in that case it was Nike and guess what? A bunch of angry rednecks aren't the main clientele of Nike--nor are their competitors primarily serving said angry rednecks. That would be things like Carhart or whatever. So Nike coming out and saying these things is because tons of black people buy their sneakers. Likewise, tons of people with gay friends or sympathetic to gay rights buy shit from companies that come out and pretend to be for this or that gay whatever just because they want their dollars.

You're acting like all of this is some kind of conspiracy and it's really not. What you don't seem to understand are the structural issues inherent to consumer Capitalism. All they care about is balancing who they piss off while avoiding lawsuits and selling shit to as many people as possible. They're never going to come out and take a stand on an actually controversial issue like abortion because fucking why? All they'd end up doing is pissing off half the population no matter what.

With a thing like feminism they're practically guaranteed to not piss off half the population along with a massive chunk of the other half, and all the while getting actual massive amounts of consumer support at the cost of what, a handful of butthurt angry neckbeards who are likely low income or NEETs anyway, and who probably don't even actually buy shit but pirate everything anyway? But meanwhile you will also notice people like Anita fail precisely because vidya is one of the few markets that contains a niche subset of said constantly butthurt neckbeards angrily ranting about women actually making up a sizeable block of their clientele.

Meanwhile you also have to understand that vidya is now mainstream, like it or not. We've got like a few solid niches left and the rest of it is casuals and mundanes doing their typical NORP shit while playing some horrible shitty casual FPS console games. THAT is now the vidya market, in addition to the mobile market, which my God could I rant about that all day. Every single fucking day I see some garbage on steam because of mobile trash with that fucking low poly no textures no face or hands goddamned BULLSHIT and it makes me want to punch someone. But I can't do shit about that because, again, it's the market forces in action and I live in a Capitalist society filled with fucking idiots which means I'm going to have to suffer some more and hope they don't penetrate my crpg, 4X, or CMS niche markets so much where the normie still fears to tread for the most part.
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>To further take heat off of the company leaders, they'll forge consumer brand loyalty by marketing towards demographics with deep pockets especially the LGBT community
Oh noes, Big Homo's behind it all.

Look dude you're on the right path but not getting it, and the idea that gay men are now also part of what I can only presume is your idea of some conspiracy is fucking ridiculous, like it's some cabal of rich homos out there pulling every string. So like I said, what you are just not understanding is Capitalism. This is seriously all completely due to Capitalism. It's a tiny demographic that doesn't make any sense to cater to from a market perspective until you understand that it's all those "allies" of the gay community getting all pissy about it, so they're marketing to them.

It's the same shit as anything else man, like making vegan medications because vegans refuse to eat gel caps since they're made with gelatin that's an animal product, so instead they make cellulose based medications. Or all the other dietary shit I mentioned earlier. All of this crap is just satisfying consumer demand.

>If these companies have political ambitions (hello, Google), they'll even be willing to lose money to sway public opinion towards desired political causes.
Google is part of the fucking intelligence complex and wtf is that even supposed to mean "Google has political ambitions" Google isn't a person dude it's a company, and one with deep ties to the intelligence community and part of the same intelligence-industrial complex as AT&T at that.

>tl;dr: "Get woke, go broke" is a meme that misses the big picture.
This whole post of yours is missing the big picture my man. You're so close to being right on the money but then you fall short. You're always going to have these things because of the way our Western Capitalist society works.

Like it was a complete lie that women entering the workforce was some woke feminist thing. The reason that happened was completely due to market forces, because now it means more labor and more potential customers with more money, flooding the labor pool and thus dropping the overall bargaining power and value of labor and so on. Like in the late 19th century even companies were selling shit like vacuum cleaners and appliances with advertisements promising to "liberate you women from your chores!" I sincerely doubt anyone no matter how whatever you would call the vierkanal poltard version of "woke" would dare calling the 1890s as a festering cesspool of feminazis or SJWs or whatever the fuck, and it happened because again it was market forces at work.

That we have the society we do today is chiefly the result of our overall economic system, and the sad reality that most people are dumbasses.
shit I hope I didn't directly call you a retard. I'm trying to untrain myself from being snap verbally abusive that a decade of chan bullshit trained into me. So sorry if I did so.
No. 24291
Both of us more or less agree. At this rate, we're repeating ourselves, but I never once alleged a conspiracy. Merely a consequence of the legal reforms you elaborated upon.

In much more serious news, Jeffrey Epstein has been arrested for sex trafficking of minors:

The article goes on much longer, but for brevity's sake, here's the juicier passages:
>Epstein’s financial career has always been shrouded in mystery. Once a math teacher at the elite Dalton School, Jeffrey Epstein left for Bear Stearns before starting his own firm, J. Epstein & Co., which supposedly only managed the fortunes of billionaire Les Wexner

>The trading desks don’t seem to know him. It’s unusual for animals that big not to leave any footprints in the snow -Vanity Fair

>Police say Epstein’s massages were booked with the help of his personal assistants, including Sarah Kellen, who kept a rolodex of underage girls.

>Another prominent investor added: “He once told me he had 300 people working for him

>Epstein and Maxwell abused minor girls across the country and abroad, and that Epstein loaned his victims out to his famous friends, including Dershowitz and Prince Andrew

>Epstein had sex with underage girls on a daily basis” and that his interest in minor girls was “obvious” to those in his orbit.

>if the records are made public, they “will show that Epstein and Maxwell were trafficking girls to the benefit of his friends

>Epstein allegedly forced Giuffre to have sex with Britain’s Prince Andrew at least three times, including during an orgy. (The court filing includes a photo of “Andy” putting his arm around Giuffre’s partially bare waist, while Maxwell smiles in the background
No. 24301
I don’t think Epstein will ever face real justice for his crimes. He’s too rich and powerful, and taking him down would implicate too many big names.
No. 24307
This is why "Pizzagate" was such a sad, retarded thing, and what convinced me pol is a bunch of mentally disabled children and literal bell ends mixed with a bunch of manipulators for the interests of oligarchs. That whole thing smacked of blaming others for the thing you yourself are guilty of, with 4chan of all places talking about other people being filled with pedos, and accusing Hillary Clinton when we all pretty much know almost for a fact that Trump was part of the Epstein pedo train and raped a 15 year old, but somehow decided the best course of action was to harass a pizza shop instead. It all smelled like massive red herring to me in order to distract from the big fat obvious truth in the middle of the room, which is that the guy with a very...odd, relationship with his daughter and known ties to Epstein was there.

Personally I think it's pretty obvious that it's not just Trump, Bill Clinton, and Prince Andrew who are tied into that pedophilia and blackmail network, which seems to be how the real higher ups and elites tend to operate. Epstein was doing some truly Rotterham tier shit, recruiting kids with problems and runaways. Personally I hope he goes to prison and gets raped and beaten to death but as poster below said, yeah that's clearly not gonna happen.

My estimation remains the same, which is that Pedowoods is real, and so is the whole pedo network in Washington and among banking, business, and political elites, and that it has been particularly prominent in the Republican party, Hollywood, and Catholic church at least visible. I've long suspected it's more deeply rooted in the military-industrial-intelligence complex and that that's where the truly horrifying shit is though.
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Phil Collins, Jimmy Buffett, say your prayers bitch
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An American molecular biologist and group leader from the Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics in Dresden has gone missing in Crete:

No. 24330
she's 59 and went jogging at 31 degrees celsius (in the shadow). she might have collapsed of overexertion. on the other hand she should have been found by now, the greek search team uses helicopters etc. and i doubt that she went more than a couple km away from the hotel. my local newspaper reported her missing 2 days ago.
No. 24339
Yes unfortunately I doubt she will be found alive at this point.
No. 24355 Kontra

Possible scenario:

>jump in the water because of the heat
>heart attack because of the cold water shock
>drown and die
No. 24363

Her body has been found 10km away from the place where she was seen last.

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During Ross' briefing, the ministers discussed the growing rate of marriages between Jews and non-Jews in America.
Peretz said the assimilation of Jews around the world and mostly in the U.S. was "like a second Holocaust," and added that due to intermarriages in the last 70 years the Jewish people "lost 6 million people." Peretz's spokesman confirmed this account.
Minister of Energy Yuval Steinitz pushed back on Peretz's remarks and said assimilation wasn't a critical problem. Steinitz added: "First we need to stop disregarding and looking down on Jews in America that see themselves as Jews not only religiously but even more culturally and historically."
Netanyahu concluded the discussion by saying he is less concerned by political trends among U.S. Jews who are more liberal than by the demographic trends.
Netanyahu added that growing numbers of U.S. Jews are drifting away from Jewish traditions, a trend that is hard to reverse.

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I will find a beautiful neurotic Jewish woman and I will marry her and you can't stop me Bibi
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>Peretz said the assimilation of Jews around the world and mostly in the U.S. was "like a second Holocaust," and added that due to intermarriages in the last 70 years the Jewish people "lost 6 million people."
This reads like a fucking /pol/ copypasta lol. Is this one of those fake news websites like the onion?
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Axios (stylized as AXIOS) is an American news and information website founded in 2016 by former Politico staffers Jim VandeHei, Mike Allen, and Roy Schwartz. It officially launched in 2017. The site's name is based on the Greek: ἄξιος (áxios), meaning "worthy".[2]

Axios's founder VandeHei said he aimed for the company to be a "mix between The Economist and Twitter."[3] The company initially targeted coverage of a mix of news about business, politics, technology, healthcare, and media. Founder VandeHei said Axios would focus on the "collision between tech and areas such as bureaucracy, health care, energy, and the transportation infrastructure".[2] At launch, Nicholas Johnston, a former managing editor at Bloomberg LP was named editor-in-chief.[4]

In the summer of 2016, Axios secured $10 million in a round of financing led by Lerer Hippeau Ventures. Backers include media-partner NBC News; Emerson Collective, the investment vehicle of Laurene Powell Jobs, the widow of Steve Jobs; Greycroft Partners; and David and Katherine Bradley, owners of Atlantic Media.[2] The company had raised $30 million as of November 2017.[5][6] It planned to focus on "business, technology, politics, and media trends."[2] Axios generates revenue through short-form native advertising and sponsored newsletters.[7] The company earned more than $10 million in revenue in its first seven months.[5]
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No. 24392
It just reads like a parody, ToI or not.
No. 24427
Right wing Jews are pretty much like a slightly more autistic and more educated version of poltards. Hell, some of them are quite literally poltards themselves. Like Bibis son Yair actually does go and posts on /pol/. Some do it because they think it's funny. Others, because they are dumber Jews who take this shit seriously, which is especially remarkable given the fact that if Jewish women marry non-Jewish men you're only increasing the amount of Jewish people in the world. I suspect they are only butthurt about this for same reasons as pol being butthurt which is that they fear the BGC (big goy cock). But it has been a concern of theirs for awhile about assimilation and the loss of Jewish identity. This is not an actually distinct Jewish thing either, just the exact same thing every ethnicity has felt since the 19th century about America particularly immigrant parents (oh noes our childrens are losing their Italian/German/Polish/Irish/Swedish/French/whatever identity!!1!) So don't like it? Don't live in my country then and stay butthurt about it in yours.

As for the language, it's just the usual melodramatic bullshit of those sorts of people since forever, namely the people in Bibi's orbit. These are also the exact same people who called Iranian ballistic missiles "flying concentration camps." They use this retarded language less out of emotional manipulation of the world and more to use lurid tabloid language to manipulate the moderate and left leaning Jews to their point of view, like calling it "white genocide" if you fuck a latina or black woman, or some feminazi calling everything rape. Bibi in particular is an utterly corrupt walking meme kinda like Trump and Boris Johnson except slightly more effective at his job.
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>horseshoe fallacy
No. 24495
>I can only give a meme response like I'm on vierkanal pol rather than giving anything even resembling a rebuttal or counterargument
How is this even "horseshoe theory" to begin with? It reminds me of all these complete fucking retards who learn a few terms like false flag, Overton window, or accelerationism, then think that using them like name dropping somehow makes them sound smarter or is a sufficient argument in its own right to just mention the term and move on.

OH and you just reminded me what I kept forgetting to post here
Apparently Bolsonaro is an old school right wing drug dealer kingpin like it's the 1980s in South America again.
No. 24496
>schizo posts crackpot theories uninterrupted
>monkey calls out crackpot
>gets mad and attacks everyone ITT

You have no self-awareness.
No. 24865

News from the 2019: Boris Kemal wins race to be next British prime minister.
Why are the Brits doing this? Just to suffer? The whole Brexit idea was retarded in the first place, the anti-EU outrage was caused by stagnatic income of the middle class which was created by austerity policies and globalization. Just exiting the EU doesn't solve the problem of stagnating incomes of lower and middle classes, doesn't solve the rising income inequality and will not return the factory workers jobs to the UK. The centralization and strengthening of the EU could solve the problem of tax havens, If I understand correctly. Negotiations between states on the unification of the tax system and the labor code should solve the problems, therefore, people opposing the EU only tighten the noose around the neck of the lower class
No. 24887
>>Negotiations between states on the unification of the tax system and the labor code should solve the problems, therefore, people opposing the EU only tighten the noose around the neck of the lower class
Hence Tory support for it. I also just found it hysterical that all this time they were trying to use incidents like Rotterham in support of sececeding from the EU despite already getting away with special conditions, and yet not only is this not going to stop that but the UK is probably just going to have even more Paki rape gangs as they try to draw in more laborers from the Commonwealth type places to make up for all the Polish and other continental workers they're about to lose.

Where is Farage in all this?
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>Boris Johnson Wins Race to Be Next British Prime Minister
>Boris Johnson
>British Prime Minister
I think the Tories just gave up. Or?
No. 24889
>Where is Farage in all this?
Picking up a comfortably sized paychequeue and the assorted benefits fit for an EU Parliament Member in Brussels. That, or cheekily drinking a pint at a pub.
No. 24892
It's just bants.
Boris is going to have a horrid time, but he is invunerable to critism, he effectivley has a minority parliment, by that I mean less than 50% of seats.
He has to stop parliment blocking Brexit, be weary of half his party MPs not wanting him or Brexity.
The threat of Farage and the Brexit party, getting kicked out for trying to deliver Brexit by the lefties or kicked by the right for not delivering Brexit.
Iran situation.
HS2 situation.
Housing and immigration, boomers want to keep their mad gainz, people just want to be able to afford to BUY a house.
The recession which is looming.
Trade war with EU and France.

He will at least be entertaining, however still doubtful we will get a hard Brexit the public want, which the other half of the public don't.
No. 24893
I ment China, not France lol.
To much hornblower me thinks.
No. 24985
Well this was disconcerting
Probably related?
I think that lovecraft was right. I think it would drive us to madness to know with what tenuous grasp we hold onto the mercy of a lightless cold dark void of an uncaring dead universe. Or alternatively, I guess the sense of truly having a God of some sort watching over us, considering that thing just barely missed us. Imagine you and everyone you know getting vaporized with no warning.
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The last 4 months were very important for Ukraine: the comedian Zelenskyi became the president of Ukraine and in the recent parliamentary elections his new party won the most votes. After being elected president, Zelenskyi could not do much, because the presidential appointment of the prime minister and the prosecutor requires the approval of the parliament. Zelenskyi called for early parliamentary elections to get a friendly parliament 6 months earlier, and the victory that his party gained turned out to be monstrous; for the first time in the history of Ukraine, one party was able to get enough votes to form a government without coalition with anyone else.
Zelenskyi can appoint the people he needs without any resistance or need to negotiate with the opposition. So far, Zelensky has earned a good reputation, as he appointed only reformers. I think that Zelenskyi has a huge potential to become the best president in the history of the country.

New pro-Russian Kremlin-sponsored party, "For Life", became the second largest party in parliament. But that doesn't say a lot, because the party won only 13% of the vote, while the old pro-Russian party "Opposition Bloc" received 9% in 2014. Those are the only pro-Russian parties in Ukrainian parliament, therefore any return to Russian orbit can be considered impossible.

Ukraine is another example of the fact that the conquest of territories and direct conflict don't bring profits to the state. Strong economy and soft power, the absence of which Russia is trying to compensate with its army, are the only important things that help to project state's influense without hurting you in the long-term. It is surprising that Putin and many general secretaries of the USSR so greatly underestimated the importance of developing the country for victory over their rivals.
No. 25011
I am confused by this. So what exactly do they stand for? Because this supposedly is sounding like some type of a Soc-Dem platform except more business friendly, and with what sounds to me like a lot of mild ethno-nationalism. Also why is the Freedom party so low? Do Ukrainians not care about FREEDOMS?))))
No. 25013
They don't stand for idea, they stand for anti-corruption and Zelenskyi, who himself doesn't understand much in politics. Zelenskyi is mostly pro-Western and wants to deregulate market to reduce corruption in the state service and lessen the burden on business. Ukrainian parties gather around personalities and they quickly dissolve, you can see that the old Poroshenko's party "Petro Poroshenko Bloc" was renamed into "European Solidarity" because much lesser amount of people support Poroshenko now. The Ukrainians politics until 2014 has always been about whether we should go East or West, but thanks to the Russian retardation the people finally solved the question. The only popular trend now is quality of life and how much you promise to uplift it.

The people understand political ideas very badly and we have no such issues as availability of weapons, medicare, illegal immigrants, low/high taxes on stuff, free college and state's debt burden, because no one cares. I am sure that if you ask the deputies in Ukrainian parliament who are libertarians, more than half will not answer you correctly, because political awareness is extremely low.
No. 25016
>deregulate market to reduce corruption
You'd think ex-CCCP slavs of all people would have learned this better by now. Just take one solid good look at your neighbor. They pretty much completely deregulated everything and liberalized the markets instead of truly liberalizing the society and personal rights, and that is why you have society of United Bottlesitters right now. I am not saying it isnt corrupt now with regulations or letmetellyouaboutyourcountry but to me it seems eastern Europe deregulating everything to fight corruption is like fucking to preserve virginity.
No. 25018
Deregulation is the best thing for corrupt societies, and Russian economy is much better than Ukrainian. The Polish, Hungarian, Romanian, Baltic economies are even better than Russian one. Deregulation is the silver bullet for corruption in states like Ukraine, because in corrupt underdeveloped countries excessive regulation and big government breed corruption, corruption = ability to influense the law and oppress your competetion. Complicated tax code and regulation of the market make life much easier for corrupt officials and big business, while the state and the people don't benefit from it.
No. 25021
>and the people don't benefit from it.
I think that Russian cronyism is an excellent example of why this is not true. Again, I am not living in your countries so I don't know, but as Western observer it seems to me that at least if you had regulations it would force more of the corruption out in the open instead of operating in secrecy and make them actually have to provide some public benefit instead of pocketing all the money like Putin and his gang of thieves. But then again I also speak as an American, so my perspective is someone living in a turbo-deregulated neoliberal dystopia. Regulations here are all that is keeping our oligarchs from privatizing and selling the asphalt that makes our roads if they could.

I don't think the problem is necessarily one of regulation or deregulation though, but of culture of laws and what people are in power. Regardless total deregulation in especially a very largely class divided society just makes it so those in power are more easily able to concentrate their wealth and personal favors and operate outside of and above the law without having to answer to the public. The only way I think mass deregulation can really work in that way is if you already don't have a lot of economic disparity, because if you do then it just lets those oligarchs operate their corrupt schemes even more freely with fewer fetters.
No. 25023
Regulation in corrupt society doesn't influence the ability of the upper class to accumulate wealth. Even more, regulation makes it easier for the wealthiest people in the country, because they simply bribe officials who then harass the small companies thanks to said regulations. You can consider possibility of having a welfare state with government intervention in the market in Western Europe/Nothern America because you already successfully established a class of bureacrauts and anti-corruption institutions, unlike poorer and newer democracies. Socialists are the best choice when you have created your wealthy society and must distribute the fruits of labor, liberals are the best when you need to acquire this wealth in the first place.
Ukraine isn't going to get the Western investments without deregulation. Many socialist ideas may wish good, but implementation in practice often turns out to be different when you do it in corrupt countries like Ukraine. IMF and the EU fought Ukrainian gas subsidies for a long time and very vigorously, because it was a gigantic corruption scheme which, in theory, was supposed to help reduce gas prices for improverished Ukrainians at the expense of the government subsidies, but in practice the state paid huge money and part of the gibs just disappeared never reaching the ordinary people. I.e. the poor and the middle class paid taxes to get the gibs from government, but the most powerful and corrupt people in the government were reaping the benefits.
No. 25028
>people opposing the EU only tighten the noose around the neck of the lower class

That's the whole point of these Anti-EU forces.
No. 25029

Your first link isn't working for me


>Asteroid 2019 OK, estimated to be between 187 feet and 427 feet in diameter, came within 43,500 miles of striking the Earth — closer than the moon.

wow, some people are very lucky to be still alive today :3
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British tabloids continue to amaze me. Looking at tabloid news over here, most at least seem to have a connection to reality. Sort of. While the British papers just seem to be making up whatever absurd shit they want to move copies each week.
Not gonna lie though, I had a cheeky laugh. It dances on that fine line of "did that really happen? Probably not, but seems plausible", which makes it funny.
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This already could be some even funnier shit than Boris Johnson now being the leader of all of the UK
>"The one thing Boris does is that he re-energises our base," one ally of Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn told Business Insider.

>"He reminds our voters who the enemy is."

>Boris Johnson's victory this week has certainly energised some people. Johnson's speech upon becoming prime minister could barely be heard on Downing Street above the sound of the large protests against him.

>His commitments during the campaign to slash taxes for higher earners, and to force through a potential no-deal Brexit, appear to have inflamed what was an already committed opposition towards him.

>Business Insider reported last month that the prospect of Johnson become the United Kingdom's next prime minister had led to anti-Brexit groups enjoying a significant increase in donations and support.

>But on the other, some of those around Corbyn are concerned that he could be highly effective at targeting the smaller but still significant minority of Labour voters the party needs in order to win the next election.

>The fear among some of those around Corbyn is that Johnson will hoover up disgruntled Labour voters who supported leaving the European Union and gain a honeymoon bounce, before triggering a general election.

>"If you look at the Peterborough by-election and local elections, most of the Lib Dem surge there was just taking seats from the Tories and if we were to gain all of that Lib Dem vote back it wouldn't gain us any extra seats," one Labour source told Business Insider.

>"But where we've lost our Leave voters, they're in two-way Tory seats."

>Indeed, it was notable on Thursday that Johnson devoted much of his attacks against Corbyn in the House of Commons towards accusing him of wanting to stop Brexit.

>"It's entirely possible that he will hoover up all our Leave voters and get a ten or twenty point lead in the first few months," the source added.

>However, even if that does happen, Labour believes that Johnson, who was this week branded the "Britain Trump" by the US president, can ultimately be beaten.

>"I think a Johnson versus Corbyn contest would excite the public actually," one ally of the Labour leader told Business Insider.

>"It will be a proper left-winger versus a proper right-winger."

>They predicted that in a general election Johnson, and his strongly right-wing cabinet, would help mobilise their own base against him, while bringing back worried former Labour voters who have previously defected to the Lib Dems.

>"I think it will be an interesting psephological experiment in what happens when a left populist goes up against a right populist," they predicted.

And with many observers expecting that Johnson is preparing for an autumn election, we may not have to wait very long to see how that experiment ends.

The impression I honestly get is that partly it's really just a way to maintain Bri'un's extremely rigid class based society. Most of their shit papers basically seem to revolve around mocking and controlling the poor in Britain. Meanwhile it's the kind of country where people like Savile was wandering around hospitals molesting and raping dying children and he completely got away with it too while hanging out with Thatcher or whoever. Of course, a lot of the British elite also tend to look like complete twats IMO too. I mean, would you trust a guy with a haircut and crazy eyes like that who dresses in fluorescent windbreakers?
No. 25163
New tree planting record: Ethiopians plants 350 million trees in a single day which beats India’s 66 million trees planting record set in 2017.
Ethiopia is in the middle of a campaign to plant 4 billion trees to fight desertification and deforestation. So far, more than 2.6 billion trees have been planted.

No. 25168 Kontra
I watched the World Economics Forum video on it accidently via Facebook. Interesting would be to know, how many seeds will succeed and actually grow into a tree.
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Spam. Do not click link.
No. 25201
I’m not sure if this is news but Alan Dershowitz has been tweeting about the constitutionality of statutory rape following the release of a critical New Yorker article about him, which is interesting given his relationship with Epstein and what Dershowitz has been accused of in the past.
No. 25208 Kontra
>I stand by the constitutional (not moral) argument I offered in my controversial oped: if a 16 year old has the constitutional right to have an abortion without state or parental interference, how could she not have the constitutional right to engage in consensual sex?

Just common sense
No. 25215
Interesting preemptive strategy which means he's ready anticipating the hammer falling for fucking kids at Epstein's. Good. Dershowitz is scum and belongs in jail.
No. 25221
Because there was money and psychological or perhaps even physical violence involved.

In Germany, where it would be technically legal to have intercourse with a 14 yo it also gets highly illegal at the point where you push the minor some(!)how into having sex with you.
No. 25223
But she does have the right to have consensual sex. What is criminalized is adults having sex with minors.
No. 25227

The question is why is it criminalized and why are Anglos so obsessed with keeping their teenagers in an asexual state.
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Tony Timpa wailed and pleaded for help more than 30 times as Dallas police officers pinned his shoulders, knees and neck to the ground.

“You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me! You’re gonna kill me!”

After Timpa fell unconscious, the officers who had him in handcuffs assumed he was asleep and didn’t confirm that he was breathing or feel for a pulse.

As precious minutes passed, the officers laughed and joked about waking Timpa up for school and making him waffles for breakfast.

Body camera footage obtained Tuesday by The Dallas Morning News shows first responders waited at least four minutes after Timpa became unresponsive to begin CPR. His nose was buried in the grass while officers claimed to hear him snoring -- apparently unaware that the unarmed man was drawing his last breaths.

The officers pinned his handcuffed arms behind his back for nearly 14 minutes and zip-tied his legs together. By the time he was loaded onto a gurney and put into an ambulance, the 32-year-old was dead.

The News obtained Dallas Police Department body camera footage after a three-year fight for records related to Timpa’s death. A federal judge ruled Monday in favor of a motion by The News and NBC5 to release records from his death, saying “the public has a compelling interest in understanding what truly took place during a fatal exchange between a citizen and law enforcement.”

Timpa called 911 on Aug. 10, 2016, from the parking lot of a Dallas porn store, saying he was afraid and needed help. He told a dispatcher he suffered from schizophrenia and depression and was off his prescription medication. The News first reported Timpa’s death in a 2017 investigation that showed Dallas police refused to say how a man who had called 911 for help ended up dead.

The newly obtained video and records, part of a lawsuit filed by Timpa’s family in federal court alleging excessive force, contradict key claims Dallas police have made in defending the officers’ actions.


No. 25229
>why are Anglos so obsessed with keeping their teenagers in an asexual state.

I think you'll find there's quite a lot of territory between "an asexual state" and the state of being coerced into sexually servicing geriatric law professors.
No. 25239 Kontra
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Dersh, Epstein, Robert Trivers and Larry Summers

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>Lawrence Henry Summers (born November 30, 1954) is an American economist, former Vice President of Development Economics and Chief Economist of the World Bank (1991–93),[1][2][3] senior U.S. Treasury Department official throughout President Clinton's administration (ultimately Treasury Secretary, 1999–2001),[2][3][4], former director of the National Economic Council for President Obama (2009–2010),[2][3] and rapist who boarded private flights to Jeffrey Epstein's private island. He is a former president of Harvard University (2001–2006),[3][5] where he is currently (as of March, 2017) a professor and director of the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government.[3][6][7

You know the thing is though and I have said this numerous times that I find it pretty funny how poltards somehow think this is a great weapon against the Democrats, when over the last few decades it has chiefly been Republicans embroiled in sex scandals with underage boys and gay hookers particularly considering Trump is directly named alongside Epstein as a rapist in court records. This doesn't get less convincing when you consider the guy's overall character and well known creepy behavior towards Ivanka.

One way or the other, I think this is at least finally showing potential for the chickens coming home to roost. The problem is, you're now talking about the actual primary targets. Larry Summers is a world bankster. Which means if you want to go through with this we need an undivided non-partisan public to unite and drop the hammer on these sick motherfuckers in an all-in type of play. Anything less and it's just going to become yet another Paradise Papers and a bunch of young women mysteriously vanishing or getting murdered or "committing suicide" somehow.
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Jeffrey E. Epstein, the wealthy financier who is accused of sex trafficking, had an unusual dream: He hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.

Mr. Epstein over the years confided to scientists and others about his scheme, according to four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.

Mr. Epstein’s vision reflected his longstanding fascination with what has become known as transhumanism: the science of improving the human population through technologies like genetic engineering and artificial intelligence. Critics have likened transhumanism to a modern-day version of eugenics, the discredited field of improving the human race through controlled breeding.

Mr. Epstein, who was charged in July with the sexual trafficking of girls as young as 14, was a serial illusionist: He lied about the identities of his clients, his wealth, his financial prowess, his personal achievements. But he managed to use connections and charisma to cultivate valuable relationships with business and political leaders.

Interviews with more than a dozen of his acquaintances, as well as public documents, show that he used the same tactics to insinuate himself into an elite scientific community, thus allowing him to pursue his interests in eugenics and other fringe fields like cryonics.

Lawyers for Mr. Epstein, who has pleaded not guilty to the sex-trafficking charges, did not respond to requests for comment.

Mr. Epstein attracted a glittering array of prominent scientists. They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate.

On multiple occasions starting in the early 2000s, Mr. Epstein told scientists and businessmen about his ambitions to use his New Mexico ranch as a base where women would be inseminated with his sperm and would give birth to his babies, according to two award-winning scientists and an adviser to large companies and wealthy individuals, all of whom Mr. Epstein told about it.

It was not a secret. The adviser, for example, said he was told about the plans not only by Mr. Epstein, at a gathering at his Manhattan townhouse, but also by at least one prominent member of the business community. One of the scientists said Mr. Epstein divulged his idea in 2001 at a dinner at the same townhouse; the other recalled Mr. Epstein discussing it with him at a 2006 conference that he hosted in St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands.

The idea struck all three as far-fetched and disturbing. There is no indication that it would have been against the law.

Once, at a dinner at Mr. Epstein’s mansion on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Mr. Lanier said he talked to a scientist who told him that Mr. Epstein’s goal was to have 20 women at a time impregnated at his 33,000-square-foot Zorro Ranch in a tiny town outside Santa Fe. Mr. Lanier said the scientist identified herself as working at NASA, but he did not remember her name.

According to Mr. Lanier, the NASA scientist said Mr. Epstein had based his idea for a baby ranch on accounts of the Repository for Germinal Choice, which was to be stocked with the sperm of Nobel laureates who wanted to strengthen the human gene pool. (Only one Nobel Prize winner has acknowledged contributing sperm to it. The repository discontinued operations in 1999.)

Mr. Lanier, the virtual-reality creator and author, said he had the impression that Mr. Epstein was using the dinner parties — where some guests were attractive women with impressive academic credentials — to screen candidates to bear Mr. Epstein’s children.

No. 25273
“The people from my high school class who became cops were mostly bullies and thugs.”

t. My mom
No. 25282
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Honestly we have a huge cop problem here and should just end the war on drugs. It's fucking stupid and turned us into a police state and meanwhile we still have constant drug epidemics anyway, except now the junkies are dying even more because who wants to call the cops and ask for help? Fucking no one. Because you get shot and you get arrested, so no one even bothers calling the medics. You should never call the cops in anything regarding a mental health issue because of that reason.

Honestly I just want to live in a free country with real opportunity. Currently I have neither. Instead what I've got is some megaretarded dystopian vision where the economic ladder is an illusion and open rebellion is quelled only by gambling (you would be amazed how much money people pump into it and how important state lotteries with scratch offs and Powerball and stuff are including all these casinos everywhere in quelling social unrest. When you see a 4X game give you a lottery building to improve morale on a really shitty planet it's no joke: it actually works) and where the "free" society is worse than fucking Russia in certain respects.

The thing I hate this country the most for is the fact I truly believed in the concepts of freedom and democracy, of free speech and freedom of belief, of being a just and giving society where everyone has opportunity in a meritocracy. Hell one of my ancestors fought in the fucking Revolutionary war because of this shit. We betrayed our own kin and crown to make this country. It's never talked about but we had to deal with those fucking loyalist scumbags and being ultimately a minority of active freedom fighters just in the colonies.

And now look at it. Look at this fucking shit. The worst part is how the left has been so utterly ruined and fucked to hell and back so we don't have that counterbalance either, and instead have the completely absurd and psychotic trannyism, which is really the core of why people complain about SJWs. I could rant on about this all goddamn day but the tranny shit has got. to go.

What we actually need is an active and effective libertarian party and the abolishment of both parties. It is my sincere hope that Trump can fuck up the Republican establishment as much as possible but sadly he's such a fool and establishment shill at this point that I fear he will only strengthen an unjust system and ruin everything else. I too have seen this Epstein scandal and I wish to Almighty God that Clintons, Prince Andrew and the British establishment, Dershowitz, Trump, Summers, and all the rest of these scum get taken down. I want to see the implosion of the Republican party get torn down in Trump's scandals, and then I want to see someone take down the entire Democratic party and in the midst of that chaos I want a true Freedom party to arise out of its ashes to truly make this country great again and not just saying it from the mouth while pocketing dirty money and signing anti-freedom bills with the hands.
No. 25287
It's exactly nowhere. The weak are bullied and exploited by the strong. And why would it be any other way? Nature rewards strength. Why would low value humans be rewarded?
No. 25288
Either take your haldol or return to KC, “Knower of Things”. No one here is interested in your uninspired recapitulations of 19th century social Darwinism, or your misreadings of Trivers, Hamilton and Cosmides which were presumably excreted third-hand into your brain by manosphere bloggers.

t. Different American
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>which were presumably excreted third-hand into your brain by manosphere bloggers.

Phew, nice.
No. 25290
There are problems with that point of view.
For one, "fitness" does not necessarily mean physical fitness, it just means the suitability of a species towards its particular environment.

>Why would low value humans be rewarded
In humans it is also the case that certain "less fit" members of the population greatly benefit the rest of the population.
I can give examples like Stephen Hawking (people who are not psychically fit), but that is not even necessary as many there are many roles necessary to sustain human civilization that do not require "fitness" as understood by you (garbagemen, postal workers, caregivers, cooks, factory workers, etc.).

Also, it is a gross oversimplification to assume that we are always in competition with one another:
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[stereotypical autistic German Nazi intensifies]
No. 25295
>knower of things
Not him, but I take that as a compliment, I admire him greatly. Look at history, find a place and time where it wasn't like I said, and I will admit defeat.

Even in Scandinavia in the 60s, there were workers and a middle class and an upper class, for whose benefit the place was run. Incomes were relatively equal, but assets never were, and some are rich, others are poor. Some are weak, others are strong. Some are winners and some are losers. If you are good enough at live, you have the possibility to deny these facts. Look the other way. Take a ride in your car. Have sex with your wife. Enjoy life, ignore the harsch realities. When you see a crippled loser croaking at the side of the road, ignore him. Cover your daughter's eyes, walk past him quickly, forget him, never think of him again.

But if you are a loser, defeat smacks you in the face. It cannot be ignored, and the facts are obvious. It's impossible to ignore something that hits you in the face with the weight of a truck.

Which leads us to >>25282
The people who pull the strings in America don't even see drug addicts. Most of them live in affluent suburbs or hated communities. They do not care about the evils they bestow on others. Society is run to their liking, but roughly it's run to their liking in the same way as a game of sim city is run to players liking. They do not live in the society they create. They are winners in live, and they get to decide how the losers live. But they don't see the losers as fully human, to them, they are numbers a statistic and mere playthings. They are super-human, above the other humans.

>For one, "fitness" does not necessarily mean physical fitness
Why would that be a problem?

>it just means the suitability of a species towards its particular environment
The unit of evolution is not the species, it's not even individuals, but genes.

>garbagemen, postal workers, caregivers, cooks, factory workers, etc.)
They are not needed or valued. They can and will be replaced by machines. They fill the gaps human ingenuity has not yet closed. They are mere parts of a machinery, human parts. Which has the advantage that when they break, you can put more pressure on them and they will function some more. For example, when a robot breaks, you need a skilled mechanic to fix it, or you need a new robot. When a garbageman is sick, his supervisor can yell and threaten for five minutes, and the man will work.

But even with these advantages, they will be made redundant by machines.

The same goes for the middle class, the programmer, the lawyer, the architect. All of those will be replaced by machines. The only part that can not be replaced are those for whose benefit the machines run. The winners.

>Not always in competition
All alliances are temporary. They will be broken up as soon as one side can an advantage from backstabbing the other side.
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>The unit of evolution is not the species, it's not even individuals, but genes.
And yet you are imparting your own subjective values to that.

Furthermore I would just like to come in and point out the fact that your supposed "social darwinism" is not even actually Social Darwinism. Things exist in a synergy and balance, even if that is actually all just a bunch of selfish transactions like say in a Capitalistic market driven society, but the fact remains that it is to eachother's benefit and contribute to each other in an interdependent mutualistic sort of symbiotic way
What a bunch of complete fucking idiots like you don't understand and what Ayn Randian Objectivist retards and self described "social darwinists" don't understand is it is not about the fucking top wolf. What do you call such a lone wolf? A dead fucking wolf, that's what. Which means that you only have your value in the species based upon what you can actually contribute, or rather subjective perceptions of what you can contribute.

Now, what you speak of is not the reality of what these people are doing, but subjective interpretations of it. Some species of spider actually have to wrap up and display a dead insect to a potential mate, and some of them have actually wrapped up rocks to trick their potential mate into thinking it is a good suitor, so a level of sapience isn't even needed to achieve this tactic (in fact in many species bluffing is an extremely common tactic, from cats, to roosters, to owls, to puffer fish and so on, they always try and pull a trick off to appear bigger than they actually are when in a defensive position).
I think that some of the people you speak of, like say Donald Trump, and Jim Jones, and Kim Jong Un, and Hirohito, and Adolf Hitler, and the Caesers, and L Ron Hubbard, and all such guys like that who get to positions of massive power are simply doing an exaggerated display of what that spider is doing.

You are furthermore--just to hammer this point across--making your own subjective judgments about the values of both individual people and their genes. Royalty practically built society around the false concept that their genes were somehow superior, sacred almost. Now, in that regard you are actually completely right, but here's the thing: it is all actually based upon common value, and entirely reliant upon the value of others.

This is because we are a social species, and even as apex predators lording over the entire planet we are still completely dependent on others. Like that other ernst said, you need your cooks and your garbage men and your electricians and landscapers and mailmen and repairmen and weathermen and everybody else, including all the various accountants and lawyers and PR shills and everybody else to get shit done for you. So you see, even upon that basis of the principles you espouse, they only even work for that oligarch because they are getting paid to do it. The deliverymen and the guys repairing downed electric poles are getting paid specifically because they have a high value to society ultimately. If things were built just a little less on illusion that guy repairing your electric grid should be a multimillionaire for how reliant upon him you are, and the exact same thing for the auto mechanic.

We are a mutualistic, communal society. Anyone who is successful is not a lone wolf. I fucking hate that there are such complete idiots as to not understand the simple basic fact: the apple tree grows apples for you to eat and shit out and spread the seeds which now have manure to grow in. That is the actual basis of almost all life. It is an ecosystem and a completely interdependent web of life. When the honeybee is gone, the ecosystem collapses if there are no more pollinators, because now the flowers which grow for enticement cannot be so fertilized and spread their own genes. Likewise, you cannot survive and be super successful without the hard labor of others. It is about sharing and contributing to the overall workload of society and making sure to keep things running, if you want to actually talk about subjective values on people and their class or worth or value as individuals and genetics.

There is no such thing ultimately as the top dog. It is all just a complete illusion dispelled over your own consciousness that you continually propagate through dumb memes like party slogans. The whole idea of the best most powerful and strong individual, the ubermensch, which is not even ubermensch but is commonly misunderstood and abused be these socalled "SDs" is a completely false one and completely hilarious because of how much they like to rely on motifs and common symbols and tropes like the wolf without even realizing how interdependent the species is upon each individual in the pack.
Here read this you complete dickhead

If you actually want to bring this kind of stuff up and try to impart a Nazi like kind of mentality upon wildlife, which you clearly do not understand at all and is clearly a major part of why you are such a complete loser, which is your own worldview.

Do something for others. You will soon find out exactly why altruism is such a good thing, and you will then consider why self reliance is good but so is the reliance of others upon each other. It is the most basic survival skill. Do you think the immobile queen of the ant colony is some lone warrior? Stop considering yourself up against a battle with the whole world.
No. 25300
>All alliances are temporary. They will be broken up as soon as one side can an advantage from backstabbing the other side.
You are REALLY going on those German stereotypes dude. I mean Jesus holy fuck, are you actually just some guy on a proxy as a satirist? That's not how all of humanity actually works at all. That pretty much only works out that way among sociopaths and callous opportunists, you autistic retard. Hell, just wtf do you think a family unit even is? Some of us actually have honor, and thus honor our alliances even to our own detriment, which is exactly why so many people like that heroin or meth addict cousin of, RACbernd(?) I think, who was constantly ripping off her family and their grandfather and how to his own detriment the grandfather allowed this which is because of empathy.

We often put ourselves in uncomfortable or downright hostile conditions because of this. Just think of WWI. That wasn't even actual people or families just a bunch of idiot rulers and politicians all of which actually honored their alliances IIRC and this is because alliances and mutualism and symbiotic relations is a survival skill for humanity and on some level the very basis for life itself.
No. 25307 Kontra
>is clearly a major part of why you are such a complete loser

You say, posting on an imageboard. You were making thoughtful, cogent points and then had to ruin it all with this.
No. 25309
>You are REALLY going on those German stereotypes dude. I mean Jesus holy fuck, are you actually just some guy on a proxy as a satirist? That's not how all of humanity actually works at all.
The place I work at had a sales manager. He wanted to become CEO. Her didn't become CEO. He then started to work against the company. He stopped selling. He prepared customers to switch to a new company he planned to set up. He got us into projects that we will never make a profit from. Then, he got six months of sick leave, during which he started his own shop, while still on contract with the place I work at, in the name of his wife. He poached some our engineers, and they all ruined everything they touched before leaving.

This is how normies operate, and this is how you get ahead in life.

Do not trust anyone. Ever.

>Like that other ernst said, you need your cooks and your garbage men and your electricians and landscapers and mailmen and repairmen and weathermen and everybody else, including all the various accountants and lawyers and PR shills and everybody else to get shit done for you.
Those are easily replaced. Use one of them up, get a new one. They are a commodity, not real humans. Don't get me wrong, I'm a pawn myself. Or a subhuman, so to speak.
I'm different from you because I have the misfortune of being aware of my situation.

>Likewise, you cannot survive and be super successful without the hard labor of others.
So what? There is an abundance of useful idiots to exploit. They can be exploited because they have no bargaining position. They have no bargaining position because they are weak. You and me and everyone we know is a literal slave to the richest people on this planet who own the world and all that is in it.

>Do something for others. You will soon find out exactly why altruism is such a good thing
It isn't. Altruism gives an advantage to none-altruistic individuals. In an altruistic society, being a leech is the winning strategy.

>It is the most basic survival skill. Do you think the immobile queen of the ant colony is some lone warrior?
She use the only thing in the whole heep that procreates. The workers are her children and her slaves. The individual worker is of no value. It is worthless and easily replaced. Even if you kill 50% of all the worthless little workers, the queen will survive.

>Stop considering yourself up against a battle with the whole world.
I lost long ago, when I was in kindergarten. Already at this early stage, there are winners, and there are losers. Anyone can do anything to the losers, and no one will care. The losers be abused at will, and they deserve it for being weak. None off the loser boys from a kindergarten group will ever procreate, they list the battle for existence and deserve to be abused, as a punishment for being weak and worthless, shut in human form, without value.
No. 25312
I find societies tend to be strongest when the best traits in individuals are cultivated, the people all share one common vision and the general citizenry more or less know their place and the roles they play in a society. Even the dregs can fit in to a given society so long as they know their limits. Democracy, demagoguery, decadence, collective sloth, egalitarianism and the loss of a national vision are all symptomatic (perhaps causal, but who knows) of any given civilization's decline.

Having dealt with too many nasty people, I share your cynical attitude towards humanity, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that the strong "deserve" their position because that's an inherently subjective value. Indeed, "deserving" is an entirely relative, subjective concept that could easily be deconstructed given the moral/philosophical framework. The strong get ahead because they can and few people can stop them. The lower orders admire those charismatic and strong enough to impress them with whatever features they can gracefully exhibit, so they're able to ignore even the most egregious excesses or trespasses of the strong.

>I lost long ago, when I was in kindergarten.
Traits that can manifest even in an infant all strongly suggest the course in which one's life will take, but will and initiative both can be far greater determinants in one's path than even a 200IQ. Even someone with a genius level IQ can be stuck working menial jobs without any vision. Conversely, people who are otherwise very mediocre can get ahead from tenacity to keep going and the foresight to prevent failure.

>you autistic retard
Don't you dare defame my people.

Since we're bringing up my deceased cousin, my grandfather endlessly pitied her out of empathy, but more importantly, because she was his. My mother did not share a single drop of familiar ties with these people, so anything connected to her was treated as second rate. That included me. Around Christmas time over a decade ago, my cousin outright said to my face, "Well, I'm blood" which explained why my grandfather bought her boyfriend (emphasis on boyfriend) a PlayStation 3 while I received a Simon Card valued at <$100. Keep in mind this didn't bother me too much, but it let me know where I stood. I could go on and on about my personal history, but that would be only so relevant to this discussion.

People ultimately value themselves and those they see as extensions of themselves. You don't have to be some Randroid idiot to see this, and the minute they see others failing to live up to something they personally hold as ideal (or worse, threatening such ideals), they immediately turn on them. My cousin was ultimately my grandfather's blood, and no amount of grief would change that.
No. 25458
Fuck if that shithole goes down are those idiots going to come here?? Do they know we exist?

>The far-right web forum 8chan, used to celebrate mass shootings and spread suspects' so-called “manifestos”, has been forced offline after losing its cyber-security protection.

>Cloudflare, a San Francisco-based firm that provides added security for websites to prevent cyber-attacks, said it would stop protecting 8chan at midnight Pacific Time (08:00 BST) on Monday.

>The 21-year-old suspect in this weekend’s shooting in El Paso, Texas, is understood to have used 8chan to spread his manifesto.

>Previously, the site was also used by the suspect in March’s shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand, as well as the suspect in April's synagogue shooting in Poway, California.

>Losing Cloudflare’s protection has made 8chan vulnerable to a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack, whereby a website is bombarded with traffic that overwhelms its servers, rendering it inaccessible.

>A few minutes after the Cloudflare service was withdrawn, 8chan did indeed become unavailable.

>However, 8chan's site administrator says it was movingto another security firm, BitMitigate, based in the US state of Washington. BitMitigate's website says it has "a proven commitment to liberty".

>BitMitigate stepped in to help net-Nazi site the Daily Stormer when it lost Cloudflare protection in 2017.

>The BBC has approached BitMitigate for comment. But at this time 8Chan remains offline.

>Cloudflare chief executive Matthew Prince had said, in the wake of Saturday’s shootings, that his firm would continue to support 8chan as its policy was to remain neutral over the type of content the service protected.

>However, on Sunday evening Mr Prince wrote in a blog post that "8chan has repeatedly proven itself to be a cesspool of hate”.

>“They have proven themselves to be lawless and that lawlessness has caused multiple tragic deaths,” Mr Prince wrote.

>"Even if 8chan may not have violated the letter of the law in refusing to moderate their hate-filled community, they have created an environment that revels in violating its spirit.”

>Mr Prince warned that while 8chan would be disrupted by Cloudflare’s decision, it would likely be able to rebuild itself - as was the case when Cloudflare stopped providing protection for the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi site, in 2017.

>“They quickly came back online using a Cloudflare competitor,” Mr Prince wrote.

>"That competitor at the time promoted as a feature the fact that they didn't respond to legal process.

>He added: "I have little doubt we'll see the same happen with 8chan. While removing 8chan from our network takes heat off of us, it does nothing to address why hateful sites fester online. It does nothing to address why mass shootings occur. It does nothing to address why portions of the population feel so disenchanted they turn to hate.

>"In taking this action we've solved our own problem, but we haven't solved the Internet’s.”

>8chan is a forum created in 2013 by Fredrick Brennan as an alternative to 4chan, a message board popular with gamers. 8chan promised less moderation of controversial topics and images that were being removed from 4chan. As such, 8chan has hosted far-right extremist views and imagery.

>Mr Brennan gave up ownership of 8chan in 2015 and has since called for it to be shut down. Following Cloudflare’s announcement, he wrote on Twitter: "Thank you so much @CloudFlare Finally this nightmare might have an end.”
No. 25463
The Dayton shooter engaged with a bunch of left wing weird twitter / SA personalities but it seems his attack was more personally than politically motivated (for instance, he murdered his sister). Also, the Dayton shooter had a history of making violent threats against women, which is pretty common among spree killer types.
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Yep. Major shitstorm ahead.

Cloudflare has already terminated their services for 8ch:

What's more is Frederick "Hotwheels" Brennan himself has condemned his former site. I initially suspected this to be the result of blackmail or some other type of federal coercion, but Hotwheels himself came to Kiwifarms to better explain his position. Notice the posts from user "copypaste" which I believe to be Hotwheels:

I don't look forward to 8ch spilling into the other imageboards. I know you've railed hard against vierkanal /pol/acks, but they're not a tenth as horrible or destructive as 8pol posters. They're going to fuck things up if they're not stopped.

Funny thing is 8ch wasn't always horrible. There was a time the site was usable between 2014-2016, mainly because the users weren't complete lunatics and could engage in rational discussion or at least provide quality content. It was after Gamergate had ended and the 2016 election that the board culture took a noticeable turn for the worst. Threads made in good faith were frequently bumplocked, and moderators banned users at the most minimal of perceived provocations.

Now Cloudflare is terminating their service on account of two mass murderers posting their manifestors and feds insighting others on /pol/, it seems 8ch's days are numbered. Looks like /cow/ is going to need to find a new home.
No. 25466
Probably like half of 8ch posters are feds. Furthermore they have no idea this site exists.
No. 25469
I doubt they'd invade EC. The thing you need to remember is that EC is really unimportant when it comes to big-boy websites like 4ch or 8ch. The only reason we are as "important" as we are is because of the "feud" we have with KC.
(Nobody gives a shit about a board with 8-10 Spedes posting WoTs every day on their hobbies besides said 8-10 Spedes.)

Though it's sad that 8ch is down. I frequented a Hungarian board on it.

The internet is hastily changing for the worse.
Loving how some 4channers are scared that "they might be next". I don't think 4chan will be ever shut down. I'm 100% sure it's pay-rolled by the FBI and/or the CIA.
Don't know about 8ch. The problem with that site is that it's sort of decentralised with people being able to make their own boards and stuff. (That's why the administration can't really "censor" all of the boards. There are simply too many communities to keep up with.)
Though I wouldn't be surprised if some agencies didn't use it as a honeypot of sorts.
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Wait, there was KC board on 8chan.
From what I heard, it wasn't great though.
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>Though I wouldn't be surprised if some agencies didn't use it as a honeypot of sorts.

You bet your ass they do:

In the FBI's own affidavit, they accidentally revealed that they post on 8pol to rile up others. When there is one, there's at least twenty more.
No. 25479 Kontra
Just looking that makes me feel dumber. Also whatever my eyes glaze over at this point every time I hear this kind of nonsense where they and their sympathizers immediately try to find someone else to blame after yet another terrorist attack and how we all really shouldn't be concerned about them but [insert random buzzword here]

They sound like a bunch of Muslim terrorists at this point. Oh noes we're the real victims look at all this Islamophobia! every single terrorist attack. They can all go fuck themselves and I hope the feds drop the hammer hard.
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The feds have no intention of stopping these people.
No. 25482
Whatever your feelings towards 8pol may be (I know you hate them for "ruining your life"), I think the Feds have taken an interest in politically active imageboards and are now trying to subvert/compromise them by inciting/entrapping others. The FBI's own affidavit appears to inadvertently reveal that either an agent or an informant posted in that very thread. Quite telling, if you ask me. They couldn't nail shitposters for Gamergate, but they could poison the waters in other ways, and what better way than to goad wannabe revolutionaries into committing acts of terror?

That said, I'm more than willing to believe the Wal-Mart shooter posted his manifesto on 8pol on or before that very fateful day completely on his own accord. 8pol is a place where lunatics run the asylum.

Indeed. What's happening is nothing new. All that's different are the people involved and the tools/mediums with which they use/communicate.
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> (I know you hate them for "ruining your life"),
Wtf are you talking about? Like what?
>responsible for numerous terrorist attacks
>even hotwheels has disowned them
>started the death of multiple imageboards
>kicked out of every site they've ever been in
>and they have the NERVE to wonder why they are so universally despised!
You're surrounding yourself with legit pedophiles and terrorists dude. Absolutely no one likes 8chan, anywhere.

>They couldn't nail shitposters for Gamergate,
You're seriously delusional dude. You genuinely think the feds cared that much? Gamergate itself was completely unimportant. No one really cares about that and you'd have to be mentally ill to think the FBI concocted some huge conspiracy of terrorist attacks just because a few neckbeards trolled some unimportant trannies. I also now get that the borderline schizophrenic accusations we've seen flung around is one guy and it's the BO of 8ch/KC. Your board sucked dude and it was shit partly because no one wanted to post on that site because of how hated it is for being filled with psychotic retards.
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I have only sporadically posted on 8ch, and most of my activity was on non-political boards because 8pol has been absolutely toxic since 2016. Haven't I condemned them loudly enough or is the fact I bothered with the site at all bad enough for you? Your comments aimed at me are pure projection. I have never willingly associated with pedophiles or terrorists and never will.

But back to the substance of your post.

8ch itself is responsible for numerous terrorist attacks by virute of allowing people to post anonymously? Do you mean Christchurch and now El Paso? What other terror attacks are you referring to? How is 8ch anymore responsible than Facebook is for allowing users to "go live"? Has everyone forgotten that people are ultimately responsible for their own actions no matter how many idiots in an echo chamber egg you on? What would be your solution to this problem short of permanently shutting down 8ch?

What sort of conversation do YOU want?

>Wtf are you talking about? Like what?
I recall you claiming that you don't care if Antifa injures a concert-goer to any sort of RAC or Black Metal concert because you blame right-wingers in general for all the "abuse" you suffered from /pol/acks. I've never heard you elaborate on this beyond claiming that they've changed imageboard culture where it no longer resembles the culture it did before, making you feel less at home. Perhaps there was something in your personal life that I'm not aware of that put you at permanent odds with /pol/ users. Just curious, did any mentally unstable /pol/acks put credible threats directly on your life or those close to you? If so, fuck those guys. If this is about people with opinions you don't like posting on discussion spaces you presume to be yours, then you didn't do a great job making it your home, did you?

You also conceded you aren't able to address this rationally because of your burning hatred for right-wing ideas in general, so perhaps I'll never get a cogent explanation why you feel that way.

>You're seriously delusional dude. You genuinely think the feds cared that much? Gamergate itself was completely unimportant. No one really cares about that and you'd have to be mentally ill to think the FBI concocted some huge conspiracy of terrorist attacks just because a few neckbeards trolled some unimportant trannies.

Did the FBI not investigate 8ch because of Gamergate? Do you seriously think they stopped monitoring imageboards or trolls after failing to turn up any evidence for arrests even after Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian appeared at the UN to issue their grievances?

You know what? Forget about the people involved in Gamergate. It's not even that important to me except that it produced a monumental amount of lolcows on all sides to poke fun at. The fact is that imageboards have been on the general public's radar for hosting a range of people with controversial opinions. You'd have to be very shortsighted not to see the potential in wanting to influence its direction.

Do I have concrete proof that the FBI instigated these attacks? No. Personally, I don't think Feds had anything to do with either of these mass shooters, but those "(You)" marks in the FBI's affidavit are awfully suspect, and to think that the intelligence community would turn a blind eye to imageboards is perhaps being a little too optimistic. No one is saying that the Feds or CIA are omniscient, but there's a reason the CIA's budget is never disclosed. I'm more than willing to believe that Feds can goad others into committing acts of terror. This happened before. It'll happen again.
No. 25489 Kontra
>I recall you claiming that you don't care if Antifa injures a concert-goer to any sort of RAC or Black Metal concert because you blame right-wingers in general for all the "abuse" you suffered from /pol/acks. I've never heard you elaborate on this beyond claiming that they've changed imageboard culture where it no longer resembles the culture it did before, making you feel less at home. Perhaps there was something in your personal life that I'm not aware of that put you at permanent odds with /pol/ users.
I seriously have no idea what you're talking about. First of all you're confusing me with another poster. Second of all nowhere did anyone make that claim on this board. I personally don't like 8chan because it's filled with mentally damaged annoying brainlets.

This is as far as I got with your moronic post. The other paragraph doing damage control for the legit terrorists and pedophiles on there is just pathetic and says more about you than anything else.
No. 25490
>This is as far as I got with your moronic post. The other paragraph doing damage control for the legit terrorists and pedophiles on there is just pathetic and says more about you than anything else.

Where did I do "damage control"? Did I justify the guy's actions? Did I, in any way, offer support to what he said? Have I even discussed the manifesto?

>I personally don't like 8chan because it's filled with mentally damaged annoying brainlets.

Likewise, I too abandoned 8ch because the usability of the site sharply declined on account of poor moderation and the proliferation of unhinged lunatics. Yet, somehow, I'm doing "damage control" for the crime of simply disagreeing with you. Again, complete and utter projection. I have never once advocated terrorism or defended pedophiles here or anywhere else.

The only one making moronic posts here is you, pal. You claim I do damage control for terrorists and pedophiles when I have never offered public support to either.
No. 25496
That is something that few people realize. Places like 8ch were being under watch but obviously that did little to stop the incident. Of course then you look at assailants that posted on places like 4ch, or conventional social media and see how much "being watched" did little stop anyone.
No. 25505
I think the funniest aspect of last weekend's events was that 8chan dipshits read their boy's manifesto and decided it was so dumb and poorly written he must be a fed. But in fact he was just retarded.
No. 25679
So I'm not an economist and I don't want to have the board get shit up by American politics but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't starting massive trade wars with all your partners then deliberately sabotaging your own currency pretty IQ 89?
I'm reading this and it's just like what the hell. Didn't we just get into a series of retaliatory tariffs with all our major trade partners including Canada and Germany? Isn't it pretty retarded to basically slash your exports by starting all these tariffs and then trying to counterbalance it by slashing rates in an effort to weaken the dollar or am I missing something here?
t. Not an economist but starting to worry
No. 25680
A weaker currency typically boosts exporters since goods are paid for in the local currency. America ,among others, has complained for years that China has been artificially undervaluing the yuan to gain a bigger slice of the global export market. They quite probably had fears of the currency overheating too, given their explosive growth in the past two decades.

This effect has been seen elsewhere - Germany's share of European exports for example expanded significantly after the Eurozone was created, since by tying their currency with that of a group of mostly weaker economies, the net cost of their exports relative to production shrunk. This is also partly why the UK's manufacturing sector took such a dive in the past few decades - historically Sterling has been a strong (many say chronically overvalued) currency, so there's no incentive to buy things made here when they could be bought more cheaply elsewhere.

Bear in mind that this is no economic cure-all, whatever anyone says. A weaker currency in turn increases the overall costs of imports, which typically leads to lower household wealth. How it affects any given industry will depend on the proportion of that company's raw materials that come from abroad, along with its customers of course.
No. 25684
Okay thanks. I actually have no idea the ramifications of manipulating fed ratesand probably neither does he in all likelihood but it just struck me as this really weird fucked idea.

I also find it quite funny that at this point the White House is pretty much acting like a softcore Communist country, dropping massive tariffs, manipulating interest rates, and doing all kinds of heavy handed government fucking interfering with the market.

Not that I think this is a bad thing mind you; I in fact think it's a great idea at times. The problem is it just all seems so counterproductive and retarded to me at times with what's all being done and I have concerns about how it's going to impact me and the average citizen. I mean if it all somehow works out to basically having quasi-Socialist government that floors exterior imports without destroying the inputs of raw materials etc. while massively increasing exports and stimulating the local economy then great. I just can't help but wonder what the impact of all this is going to be long term and if it's just going to eventually crash our currency while massively inflating prices for everything from consumer goods to raw materials.

I am also now particularly concerned about whatever shadow war is going on vis a vis the electric grid and cybersecurity along with the massive economic war. Like we just lost power here yet again not too long ago, and not too long before that also lost power. I happen to live near one of the many army/navy/air force military installations here in this country which also makes me basically somebody who's either going to have his skin melting off if I'm outside or get to enjoy the wonders of being trapped in a firestorm if I'm inside a non-cardboard building, or if either our military is running a weapons/readiness exercise to test our systems or if somebody else is actively doing network intrusions well beyond merely fucking with a few SCADA systems.

This last part is really just my paranoia but after seeing all those South American countries going dark because obviously it is Russia and the US shitting on them by wagging their dicks at each other so when I see the power going out a lot I worry. But even without a major cyberwar going hot or something, there's still this huge economic war which while I support Trump shaking our mighty dick at China as much as possible at this pointthis is possibly the only area I have any confidence with Trump about I do also wonder and worry a but about the repercussions of all this.

Well, that, and because I know he's been picking a bunch of stupid fucking fights with our allies like say Canada and Germany. It was funny at first but us getting into a protacted economic war with our allies benefits no one except maybe our enemies/rivals like say Russia and China. I also like our mighty dollar. Maybe not from China but I don't mind buying cheap shit from other countries. China can suck a dick because they keep sending us shoddy materials that I swear to God they're doing this shit on purpose. No idea about how much their economy is a tinderbox entirely propped up by currency manipulation either or how much a risk that has at exploding in their face.
No. 25685
Also I just found this very interesting
Just imagine, there's a whole continent of the world whose actual history we ultimately know very little about, and much of what we do know was filtered through biased sources and usually at or near their ultimate collapse. I don't even like the SA aesthetics of the civilizations there for the most part but find in particular their thread style linguistic system fascinating.
No. 25707
So what do Mayans have to do with South America anyway?
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Giding's me?

I too find this topic fascinating. There was a metropolis of a million people that Europeans had no idea about at all, despite it being possibly the largest single conurbation at the time. And their legacy is next to nothing. It's a tragedy, really.
No. 25712 Kontra
Ah, ignore me. I was thinking of the Inca.
No. 25713
Everything south of Mexico is South America. I know North America is technically [literally] part of the North American continent but it really has nothing to do with us, neither now nor historically and for all intents and purposes it is South America. This includes their civilizations like the Olmecs, Aztecs, Incas, Mayans etc all of whom had nothing at all to do with North American tribes so far as I'm aware.
No. 25739 Kontra
*central america is part of
No. 25741
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They whacked Epstein lmao
No. 25743
I just came here to say that ohfuckno

For once I actually wanted such scum not to die because it buries his secrets with him. This means all that filth is going to keep getting protected. If the suspect dies does a case even still get investigated at all?
No. 25744
I still don't get why they even bother trying to do such obvious coverups. Surely there are better ways to remove someone from the picture than that. Throw a bureaucrat under the bus, and make a fake paperwork fuckup that puts him in mainline or some shit. Dude would get ripped apart and it's not 'as' much of an obvious assassination.
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They must feel they’re untouchable so it doesn’t matter how obvious the hit was. In fact that may have been the point: project an impression of power by offing him as brazenly as possible, to either make people despondent or send them into denial.

See pic
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No. 25767
You are an idiot then. Tribes north and south of Panama had no contact with each other, geographically they are not contiguous. You're just proving how much of an American you are by opening your mouth about things you know very little about. Andeans (including Incas) used knots to record information, Mayans had an alphabet and lots of "books", they were not related except maybe genetically and in regards to that all Indians in either America had pretty much the same genetic makeup except at the furthest north.
Aztecs were In Mexico, Mayans were in Central America and Mexico and Incas were in the Andes, Mayans and Aztecs had contact with each other but Incas had nothing to do with either.
No. 25803
China's exports to USA are still growing, while USA exports to China are falling.
No. 25805
There's also another trade war starting because of war crimes related stuff between Japan and SK
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The abusers will face no justice and the public will never know the truth. Dutroux. Franklin Community Federal Credit Union. This was always a foregone conclusion.
No. 25838
I really don't have much faith at all that anything will come of this for obvious reasons but
No. 25839
Ah good thing the FBI is there now to destroy all the evidence
No. 25845
This is fucking terrifying

So now they're trying to use the opioid problem as a pretext for something I cannot imagine how it could survive Constitutional and various consumer/health protection law challenges. Every day my poor country becomes more and more of an open air prison. The worst part is the sycophantic attitude towards authority including doctors (srsly if a doctor says there's no such thing as biological gender the idiots here will cite that as "proof" like trained dogs) means people are more likely to take universal drug screens seriously.

I really don't see much hope for this country. It's descended into Chinese levels of authoritarianism.

Idk if I have that little faith in the FBI, also I thought his pedo island wasn't under US jurisdiction. In all likelihood they'd just suppress it and due to our shithole national security laws they can literally just suppress it "due to national security concerns". I mean you can literally legally fight this in court where Trump and Clinton could be raping toddlers and suppress its exposure with gag orders because that revelation would damage our national security. I don't think people realize the full extent to which the 80s to especially Bush era laws have fucked this country. REX84 seems pretty quaint by comparison. Basically, the White House has de facto autocratic powers completely unchecked and has the unconstitutional authority to declare war, immunize himself against all criminal proceedings, suspend the Constitution, have the State seize any and all public properties and assets, institute total martial law and protect any exposure of what he's doing and can utilize literally anything as a "national emergency" as pretext for doing so, from illegal immigration to wildfires.

The worst part of it is due to the idiotic tribalism being stoked constantly Americans have lost a sense of common cause and seeing each other as the enemy to a point where any effort at national unity has been completely sabotaged. I think that the Epstein case is a stunning revelation about that, to the point where people are too busy making excuses for one pedophile or the other because they see it as "being on the same team." There is nothing more cancerous on earth than American kulturkampf sporting mentality red team/blue team politics. I normally try to avoid the topic of politics but this is all so thoroughly revolting I have no words to describe it.
No. 25852
Adorno has interesting things to say about the connection of authority-adoring characters and right-wing radicalism. I can only find the original audio of his lecture and no translation right now, but maybe someone else can help out here: https://www.mediathek.at/portaltreffer/atom/014EEA8D-336-0005D-00000D5C-014E5066/pool/BWEB/

There are auto-generated subs on youtube here:

But youtube really struggles with the sophisticated German Adorno is sporting here.

In any case, what he has to say seems prophetical at times. It's not, of course, nothing is, but what he sais is by coincidence very educating about todays developments in both the EU and US governments and the people trusting those governments. It really is a warning that must not be ignored.
No. 25853
>Big Pharma pays doctors to prescribe happy pills
>Doctors don’t give a shit and just prescribe the strongest painkiller possible
>Patients are whiny bastards who ask for the strongest possible pill immediately (which they get)
Wow, how could it be that entire towns and villages are hooked on opioids? Wow, truly shocking.
No. 25854
Actually it was done by the pharmaceutical companies who bought tons of marketing propaganda and targeted doctors with bribe money to give these things out like candy. Regardless it's byllshit that their response now is to say instead of "hey we, as medical professional, completely fucked up on this one" and instead are recommending universal piss testing for Americans.
No. 25855
>Actually it was done by the pharmaceutical companies who bought tons of marketing propaganda and targeted doctors with bribe money to give these things out like candy.

That's exactly what the Hungarian said.

Do you read the posts you reply to?
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>Wow, how could it be that entire towns and villages are hooked on opioids? Wow, truly shocking.

Opioid painkillers are hell. I remember Herman Maier saying, to wean himself off opioid painkillers, when being asked, what the biggest struggle of his life was. They were given him by doctors after he had a terrible motorbike accident.
So if a focused and disciplined person like Maier, who at this time didn't have to live a struggling life others have to live, had problems to wean off opioids, then they really must be hell.
No. 25862
That’s why in Europe it’s restricted use for patients who suffer extreme pain like people who had a serious accident.
Don’t know why Americans give it out like it’s candy for Halloween. It essentially sedates the users who can’t get anything properly done while under influence. (Same reason why Opium was such a huge problem when it was introduced to China by the colonial powers. They only got rid of the epidemic through killing opium producers and basically forcing smokers to give up the substance through inadequate supply. And killing some addicts, but that’s irrelevant.)
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>Asked what she hoped children would read about her in history books 50 years from now, Chancellor Merkel responded: "She tried"
No. 25864
He was trying to imply the fault lay with the "whiny" patients
No. 25865
People self diagnosing or looking up medicines they “need” are definitely part of the problem. Do are people who overestimate their pain. 99% of cases don’t require opioids, but they ask for the strongest possible painkiller immediately.
Of course, the doctors shouldn’t be handing out them in the first place, but the patients being idiots definitely contribute to the issue.
No. 25889
That's really not the case with opioids dude. One could try and argue that with bullshit like SSRI's but frankly even that the whole problem still lay more with the hyper-capitalist mode of healthcare we have here where pharmaceutical giants are constantly buying ad space online, on TV, in magazines, absolutely everywhere with "ask your doctor if X is right for you" and then you think you fault the patients who go and ask their doctors? Not only that, but on top of it the same companies seriously have at least as much political clout here as oil companies. Just think about that. This doesnt even begin to address their localized corruption either where they target individual doctors and basically bribe them to sell more of their drugs. It's being pushed on the patients.

As for opioids, you literally cannot fucking ask your doctor for them. That in particular was entirely the pharmaceutical industry. In fact just you outright asking for narcotics was more likely to get them denied because the DEA is on their ass about it and because it's considered "drug seeking behavior" even if you need them.

Let me tell you about my country. Putting up with doctors is the most idiotic fucking dance ever. The most retarded bimbo couples do not play as many games. You firstly have to avoid telling doctors you specifically want controlled drugs. This includes amphetamines, benzodiazepines, but most especially opioids. You cannot directly ask for it. You have to play this whole song and dance about how ineffective the shit you're on is, like NSAIDs. If the doctor offers you, youre supposed to deny the first advance, even if you actually need it. If it's not a potentially life threatening emergency they're going to give you random bullcrap like antihistamines, trazadone, whatever long before giving you Xanax. They'll also definitely push SSRIs on you. If your leg is twisted backwards they're just going to give you fentanyl. Why fentanyl over anything else I have no fucking idea but it's been the favorite doctors opioid this decade. Smack heads don't want fentanyl so I'm not even sure how that much fentanyl is floating around the heroin supply.

Literally the only place the patient can directly ask for painkillers and maybe get them is when they're hospitalized and probably already on a fentanyl drip.

Case in point: dentistry. I was given 20 Vicodin with 2x refills when I had one wisdom tooth pulled. I didnt ask. I didn't even need them. Hell I think it made pain where there was none before but whatever I spent close to a week high. Another time: I cracked my molar and had an abscessed tooth. Now, that DID fucking hurt. I went to a doctor and asked about it. He shined a flashlight in my mouth and said "yeaaah....uh so I'm not a dentist. Here's some painkillers go see a dentist." Ironically enough I was given 15 percocet (aka oxycodone) and sent on my way, but the stupid fucking dentist I found ripped it out in splinters and felt like the incompetent fuck cracked my jaw so I DID need painkillers but the stupid inept cocksucker only gave me 5 T3 codeine tablets which didnt do shit. I said they didnt do shit. He gave me 3 tramadol 100 and refused to do anything else.

Such is life in america. Patients have fuckall for say here and every time you see a doctor it feels like playing roulette. When I had that infected tooth I was being pretty stupid though and drinking for the pain as well as figuring well at least it might be a disinfectant. I proceeded to drink even more heavily after that incompetent dentist.

I am now dreading having anything go wrong because due to all the aforementioned problems of doctors and dentists themselves giving it like candy sometimes for no good reason at all (see also: Appalachia) and now I'm pretty certain if I get in a car wreck they're going to tell me to suck it up and continue mistreating people, with this time instead of giving narcs to people who don't need it refusing to give them to people who genuinely do.

In case you haven't noticed, the pattern is these cocksucking doctors and pharma giants refusing to take any responsibility and instead suggesting everyone get drug tested. Why I cannot even fathom because a lot of this happened with valid prescriptions themselves or with pill mill doctors. If they really wanted to deal with the problem they'd stop taking bribe money from corporate drug dealers. Hell the one time I was checking in with a doctor some pharma rep was checking in with the window next to me and I asked him point blank how many drugs he sold to kids today. The receptionist was trying to stifle her laughter.

So in short I take a rather dim view of the corporate drug pushing itself and where it regards opioids that's literally not the fault of patients because like I said, if you outright ask for them you'll get labeled a drug seeker in your file and no doctor will write you them except the shadiest pill mills in Florida.
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BG: I’m standing with girls. The girls just looking at me, and the girls get scared. So I don’t know if you want to get me to say something and I don’t want to — I want to deal with no one.

Reporter: I get that. But you and I have a history at this point. One thing you told me, for instance — okay, one thing you told me is he got a heads up when the authorities were going to come to his house the night before.

BG: Listen, what you say is between you and me —

R: You told me he would get phone calls the night before and eight o’clock the police are going to come. He would get a heads up from local police.


R: You told me that, Igor. Want me to read the quote?

BG: Well, you can read whatever you want right now. Don’t just — you can put yourself in big trouble.

R: You said: “He always do something wrong. There was some nights in question. There was at home arrest and police, before they come to the house, they call him and tell him they coming in at eight o’clock in the morning. It’s all corruption you know. It’s all bullshit.”

BG: Listen, don’t put yourself in trouble. Seriously.

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>Nobody ever wanted to offer me money. I don’t care about money. I want everybody to just leave me alone. Just one thing: When somebody from newspapers write, and from everywhere call you, me, “Red Army fucking commando.” What that mean exactly?
I'm sorry. I know how much this is a serious matter. But dat runglish man, dat runglish...
No. 25898 Kontra
So I kinda already assumed something like this but supposedly Qanon and pizzagate was created as a way to muddy the waters and divert all attention away from Epstein and company
Kontra because I dont want to keep shitting up EC and I'm just keeping these to read more fully later
Also noteworthy is that supposedly qanon went silent after Epstein got nailed a second time which is also within days of Ghislain Maxwell shutting down her charity or whatever front group it was. Also of interest is her father was deeply involved in spying for multiple groups including Israel which is where I found this interesting guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu which is apparently how we know of Israel's nuclear program to begin with (he apparently got butthurt at what he perceived the racism of Ashkenazi Jews against Sephardic and Mizrahi and later converted to Christianity)

Epstein also had some huge link to Wexner, who together with Edgar Bronfman called something named the "megagroup." Now the interesting thing here about that link is Edgar Bronfman if you'll recall is Jewish Canadian oligarch father of Clare Bronfman who bankrolled that NXIVM cult. There's an interesting parallel here because it basically sounds like Ghislain Maxwell acted for Jeff Epstein exactly the same way Allison Mack recruited sex slaves for Keith Ranierre all of which lends me to believe that all this is way more organized and interconnected as some kind of Illuminati type plot than anyone is even hinting in the media.
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An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death.

Among the bones broken in Epstein's neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam's apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older, according to forensics experts and studies on the subject. But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation, the experts said.

The details are the first findings to emerge from the autopsy of Epstein, a convicted sex offender and multimillionaire in federal custody on charges of sex trafficking. He died early Saturday morning after guards found him hanging in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan and he could not be revived.

No. 25903
Normally in needs a distinctive drop height, that bones will brake while hanging.

In a prison cell with improvised materials you don't get this height.

Fishy story is getting even more fishy.
No. 25932
Anyone who thinks he killed himself and there's nothing fishy is a fucking idiot. The worst thing to me about this whole case though is how much faggots on both sides are acting like someone they're vindicated, as if somehow it were something to celebrate that high level leaders are pedophiles, and secondly that they're trying to make it about the other guy. To me it's pretty obvious Epstein was blackmailing world leaders, that Bill definitely got handjobs from teenagers as well as many other world leaders, and that Donald Trump and Epstein raped a 15 year old in the 90s. Whoever ordered the "suicide" to happen is besides the point.
No. 25933
Epstein was an intelligence asset used by the CIA to collect blackmail on the rich and powerful. His body double was murdered in MCC. Epstein is currently recovering from a series of plastic surgeries in his Singapore penthouse.
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Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged madam and former lover Ghislaine Maxwell has been discovered — at In-N-Out Burger.

The 57-year-old was photographed alive and well Monday at the burger joint’s location in Universal City, Los Angeles.

Once spotted, Maxwell — who was sitting alone with a pet pooch — told an onlooker: “Well, I guess this is the last time I’ll be eating here!”

Maxwell, who was reading a book called “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” has been underground for months — and has not been pictured in public since 2016.

No. 25935 Kontra
I thought she was in London?

>His body double was murdered in MCC. Epstein is currently recovering from a series of plastic surgeries in his Singapore penthouse.
God damnit why is pol so retarded
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>Maxwell, who was reading a book called “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” has been underground for months — and has not been pictured in public since 2016

One should overlook the title of the book.
You don't see Maxwell for 3 years, she has been underground for many months.... and then she goes shortly after the death of her former lover alone to a restaurant, out of all places to an In-N-Out Burger. She, the millionaire, being used to fancy restaurants.....
Above all she decides to sit outside, where everyone can see her.
Reading a book, which isn't the trendy bestseller of the current book market, about the life and death of secret CIA operatives.

For me it is pretty clear that Epstein was a secret CIA operative, maybe being used to befriend members of the American elite in order to get to know their secrets.
And maybe in order to lead some member of the American astray so that they can be blackmailed by the American deep state.

>God damnit why is pol so retarded

I agree to some extent. But I am of the opinion that Epstein was working for the CIA and the American deep state.
No. 25957
It’s all very obvious isn’t it? Consider:

>In an article for The Daily Beast, investigative journalist Vicky Ward quotes a former senior White House official, in turn quoting Acosta’s response to questions about Epstein during his interview with President Donald Trump’s transition team:

>“I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”

No. 25963
>One should overlook the title of the book.

One should NOT overlook the title of the book.

I obviously meant.

Thanks for the nice link.
What do you think the CIA used him for?
Do you think he was a pedophile or he just had to play the role for his CIA duties?
Do you really think that the CIA kills a former operative and not offering him some other way out?

Can you 100%ly preclude what >>25933 writes?
No. 25979
>Epstein was an intelligence asset used by the CIA to collect blackmail on the rich and powerful
pfffffff the rich and powerful command the cia/deep state and governments in every country, otherwise the rich and powerful would be just rich, but not powerful.
on another chan anon posted a doc which was allegedly a list with people linked to epstein. addresses were blacked as well as a couple names. couldn't find trump and clinton on there, but spotted other prominent names such as murdoch, prince andrew, rothschild, bismarck, habsburg to name but a few.
so if epstein really was a pedo provider for these upper upper class super rich oligarch types i think serious investigators will suffer the same fate as witnesses and investigators in the dutroux case.
No. 26053
What if the rich and powerful are trying to receive assets in order to blackmail other rich and powerfuls?
It's like with (other) criminals, where any criminal has to have something in hand to snitch on the other criminals in order to be safe from them.
No. 26059
>What if the rich and powerful are trying to receive assets in order to blackmail other rich and powerfuls?
fair enough. but why do you bring blackmail in? if the guy was indeed pedo provider for over 9000 oligarchs all of his "customers" shared the same interest regarding him after he got arrested: he shall under no circumstances chat about his "job" and relations to them in court. all of his customers have a very strong motive regarding his "suicide".
now the fact that he got arrested in the first place may point to epstein being a tool and/or casuality within a greater intrigue between different oligarchs or oligarch factions. the cia/deep state might be a tool of one of those factions. or there are different factions within the cia who work for different customers. anyway, since a lot of very powerful people shared the interest of him being silent forever a combined effort to make sure of this seems more likely to me than a bunch of secret service personell using someone like epstein as "asset" for blackmailing even more powerful people than him or making politics - only to eventually expose their "asset" to the public.