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No. 24226
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A discussion for all things related to music.

Discuss musicians and their discographies, inspirations, careers, image, impact, artistic integrity and raison d'être. Sharing links is fine, but also discuss what particularly moved you about a given song or composition.
No. 24230
Okay, sure.

Heilung just released a new album and I think it's brilliant. To get to know them, I recommend videos from their appearence at the Castlefest in Holland, in particularl

Othan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPV38e7yfSo
Hamrer Hippyer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNu6FmaUIB0

Futha is their second studio album after Ofnir, in-between they released their appearance at Castlefest as life album called LIFA.

It's somewhat weird to talk about this kind of music since I've never been too much into anything related to metal or folk, my roots lie in IDM and breakcore, but recently - over a year now - I haven't listened to anything but Wardruna, Forn, Heilung and Arkona. It touches something that other music has never even scratched in me.
No. 24232
Oh hey, we had Heilung on in the kitchen at work today courtesy of our resident music pro. What a coincidence.
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I know we have some people who are quite passionate about Metal, so I'd like to start by discussing the genre.

Perhaps it's best we first define what Metal is since there appears to be a great deal of confusion. Metal is heavy, Psychedelic and Blues-based Rock music structured in either minor-key, modal or chromatic scales. Power chords, quick picking and galloping riffs are also very important. Bands that don't utilize them in any fashion are rarely considered Metal. The tonal centers of the Metal riffs in each composition are not fixed but progress over the course of it. The rhythm guitar is therefore not a merely a rhythm instrument but the lead one. Unless you're shredding, there can be no Metal with a rhythm guitar. The drum kit is enslaved to the guitars as a mere metronomic timekeeper despite whatever swing, texture, or fills the drummer flourishes the music with. If Robbing the Graveyard and Raping the Dead from Satan's Massacre is any proof, you construct Metal music simply with your amp and guitar with no bass or percussion needed at all:

It’s these reasons I refuse to dub Black Sabbath's self-titled album and even Paranoid as Metal. Black Sabbath's Metal work started with Master of Reality and virtually every album since that time. Sabbath's most Metal albums under Ozzy's tenure during their prime were Sabotage and Vol. 4 with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath as a runner-up. “The Wizard” may have that one riff (I'd argue it's a Hard Rock riff [the fills, phrasing, and little notes popping up here and there are even more indication]), but even so, claiming the debut is the first Metal album is inane.

Just listen to “Ride the Sky” by Lucifer's Friend which dropped in November of 1970, almost a year before the world would hear “Children of the Grave”. That song alone is heavier than most of what Sabbath made until that “Master of Reality”. For shits and giggles, follow that up with “Deceiver” by Judas Priest and you’ll notice some parallels:

What also can't be overstated is the significance of the heavier side of Psychedelic Rock from the early '70s with bands all over the world forging the foundations for Heavy Metal. Just check out Buffalo, Sir Lord Baltimore or Cool Feet:

Other items of intrigue...

Stone Axe (Sadly, this is the only single they recorded):


Captain Beyond:



Macabre (pre-Pentagram):

Legend (USA):
No. 24238
I guess in the weeks after a new album is released there is a chance that through discussion on the internet the exposure to unfamiliar but interesting/great works is increased.

The new album features a form of an older germanic language that I guess could be frisian or saxon. Been meaning to do some research on that and I guess I'll just do so now.
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Techno-Ernst back again

[KRTM] and Tim Tama (Some true underground techno heroes) released their collaborative piece yesterday

[KRTM] - Slave

Tim Tama - Dream Syntax

This will also be my first vinyl purchase
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Recently I've been listening to a lot of liquid dnb again. My music library consists of some 3000 tracks of that genre and even though I admit it is a rather repetitive one, it's soothing my mind to listen to it while driving the highway, work late at night or just work out in the park. I also startes compiling some mix tapes with my favorite tunes to keep me company on the road. in case anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChH-6DRw_r6yf3gk2bbkV2Q .
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Very interesting rendition of a traditional Turkish song:

No. 24351
Until the mid-2000s, Doom Metal was perhaps the least noticed of Heavy Metal’s subgenres in spite of two previous decades worth of mindblowing albums. An unfortunate consequence of this collective intrigue in forgotten Metal records released ages ago came this overzealous labeling of heavier Psychedelic bands as Doom Metal. This includes the ever so prevalent fallacy of “70s Doom” propagated by insolent music journalists and clever record distros who saw the perfect opportunity to move product. Simply put: no active, touring and/or recording Doom bands existed in the ’70s. Despite Black Sabbath’s influence on Metal and especially Doom Metal, the band never was a full-fledged Doom band. One could even argue they weren’t a Metal band until [I]Master of Reality[/I]. '70s Pentagram tinkered with Hard Rock, Psychedelic Rock and Heavy Metal, and Bedemon’s demos never reached a wider audience until they were bootlegged in the ’80s.

Doom Metal proper started in the ’80s, a decade that bequeathed Tyrant (who later became Saint Vitus), Trouble, Death Row/Pentagram, Candlemass, Cirith Ungol, Witchfinder General and Pagan Altar. These bands can be safely considered the origin of Doom Metal. The few obscure “Doom” bands (besides those affiliated with Candlemass and Iron Man) people name drop from the ’70s lack so many of the qualities seen in the bigger bands.

So what is Doom Metal, you ask? This is perhaps the best explanation for the genre I’ve heard:
>Imagine Black Sabbath’s career were moving chronologically backwards. Let’s start in the 70s here so we don’t have to go through their entire back catalog. Imagine “Vol. 4” was Black Sabbath’s first album. Then “Master of Reality” is their second, “Paranoid” their third, and then the self-titled album is their fourth. Now imagine that the band Earth never existed, and instead of following up their now fourth album with whatever blues type of music Earth played you take the backwards development of the Black Sabbath style and spin it further into the unknown. Muddier, more inchoate, more protozoic and somewhat creepier with each passing album. Then, when you followed that backwards movement all the way to the eighth album (being some time in 1962 or so), you’ve arrived at Saint Vitus. All their influences reverse engineered to a form that would have existed in the early 1960s if Heavy Metal and Doom Metal had not evolved from Rock music but came into being at zero metalness (but nothing else either) in 1950 and slowly but steadily grew more and more in Metal content (without Rock music or blues or any other form of music ever having any influence).

Quintessential Doom Metal albums:
Saint Vitus - Saint Vitus
Death Row - All Your Sins
Pentagram - Relentless
Trouble - Psalm 9
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Bedemon - Child of Darkness
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty
Pagan Altar - Pagan Altar / Volume 1 / Judgement of the Dead
No. 24353
How is there no mention of Electric Wizard nowhere in that entire thread?
No. 24357
>Electric Wizard

Their early work is decent (the band's previous incarnations as well the first two full-length albums are their best), but Dopethrone is heinously overrated. It's not bad, but decent at best. The music would be better if the pace wasn't gratingly dirgelike.
No. 24375
You're way too autistic. Get help
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Wow rude
t. not even him
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Diabarha is back! A great speedcore composer:

One of his classic songs for comparison:

I immediately noticed the increased quality of the production.
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Came across Diabarha a bunch of times when I was looking for edgy stuff like extratone/splittercore, can't really enjoy this kind of speedcore.

What I do enjoy are some frenchcore songs, some stuff from Dr. Peacock and Sefa is actually pretty good IMO, even if it's mainly consumed by underage party NPCs

I found this dude "Undefined Movement" like a year ago and exchanged stuff with him on FB.
He does some nice underground hardcore/techno

We already discussed this a few threads ago, but nothing really originated out of it: Does anyone wanna go on a rave together?

I'm especially looking forward to this:

"Break/Fast 1.0" - hard & fast DnB/Hardcore, no mainstream stuff they say.
No. 24393
>no mainstream stuff they say.

You could listen to their soundclouds in order to get an idea. So far the description sounds like they know what they are talking about. I don't know shit about these genres so I'm not a good judge.
No. 24394
Stray Cats released their first new album since the early 90s late last month. It's honestly not as bad as I thought it'd be. I appreciate that they modernised their old act which was decidedly a throwback to classic Rock and Roll into what is considerably more modern music without losing the played-straight rockabilly that makes their act what it is. Overall it's solid, nothing special but not bad for a band I consider to be kind of washed up at this point anyway tbh :-DDD

Playlist of the album attached below but I dunno if it'll work for everybody. Album is too new for a full posting so it's only the official audio-only ones which can have patchy coverage.

No. 24441
The left turns on its own...yet again. I can't say I'm surprised since the history of revolutionary political movements and subcultures associated with them has seen no dearth of factionalism, and competing parties have gone as far as assassinating one another to gain power and influence.

In news related to extreme music and Antifa (yet again), Amebix and Tau Cross frontman Rob Miller has been in the crosshairs from a journalist at Brooklyn Vegan for Miller's endorsement of supposed "Holocaust denier" Gerard Menuhin:

Despite Miller's massive contribution to the development of Crust Punk (some argue it wouldn't exist without Amebix), condemnation from supposed fans came fast and furious, culminating to Relapse Records dropping the band from the label. Malcolm "Scruff" Lewty of Hellbastard has chosen to defend his comrade from the witchhunt led by Brooklyn Vegan by publishing Rob Miller's official statement on Hellbastard's Facebook page:

Keep in mind Hellbastard has always been expressly anti-racist, anti-Fascist and even pro-Antifa, but that didn't stop a certain segment of Antifa supporters from accusing both Miller and Scruff of being Nazi apologists. Since that time, an Antifa supporter has created a page on Facebook putting Scruff on blast for defending Rob Miller:
No. 24447
These are absolute fringe basically no name bands and antifa is a joke dude. Nobody cares about antifa and nobody cares about any of those bands either. I've never even heard of any of them. It's also hilarious to get butthurt about crustpunk being too leftist of all things.
No. 24450
You're reading stuff into my post that's not there. Considering that squatting Anarchists were the pioneers in Anarcho-Punk and Crust Punk, it would be stupid on my part to get mad about that faction being leftist in any capacity. The point being is that leftists eagerly devolve into infighting over the pattiest and trivial of reasons, and nobody is excluded.

I take it you really don't care about Crust Punk to educate yourself, because calling Amebix a "no-name" band shows your profound ignorance on the topic. Sure, they aren't as famous as, say, CRASS is, but they've earned a large and respectable following and just about every band cites Arise as an influence. Just read "The Day the Country Died" by Ian Glasper and you'll see that Amebix has quite a few references in that book.
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I wonder what Ernsties opinion on the Butthole Surfers might be?

The Butthole Surfers - Cough Syrup

Butthole Surfers - Human Cannonball

Butthole Surfers - Jingle of a Dog's Collar

Butthole Surfers - Who Was In My Room Last Night
No. 24456
Has anybody seen the Cockney Rejects recently? I know they're getting old but they're making their first Australian tour this year and I'm thinking about going. I don't want to go if they've lost their touch though. It'd be a waste of money.

>The point being is that leftists eagerly devolve into infighting over the pattiest and trivial of reasons, and nobody is excluded.
It's true of pretty much all politics, even the establishment is surprisingly divided on a lot of topics. Our conservatives for example are almost constantly tearing themselves apart along the lines of urban elite, big rural landholders and bible thumpers with a less-powerful fourth group consisting of the typically moderate upper-middle class.

Then again, infighting over trivial shite is the trademark of Australian politics this decade so maybe not the best example :-DDD

Breddy good. They're not my go-to music but I'm not upset when they come on. I just prefer a different sound for my everyday music.
No. 24460
To elaborate, what really pisses me off is that nobody seems to be asking why Rob Miller takes inspiration from Gerard Menuhin and instead just assume the worst because of Menuhin's reputation as a "holocaust denier," which is peripheral to his main thesis in that the World Wars were about global finance taking control over the earth. He's less like David Irving and more like David Icke without the shapeshifting space lizards. In fact, if you read that Brett Stevens article linked to in that post, it'll explain cogently what likely inspired Rob Miller.

Between that and Rob's obsessions with ancient astronaut stuff, Gnostic Christianity and his views as a British leftist, I would be surprised if he hasn't read David Icke. Gnosticism + ancient aliens + Zionist conspiracies are basically the trifecta of Ickeism. Icke has a surprisingly large foothold in UK left-wing politics even among people who should know better. See also comic book writer Grant Morrison who's mentioned Icke as an influence on his "The Invisibles" or journalist Kerry Anne Mendoza who's even appeared on Icke's podcast as a guest. Neither of whom have received particular blowback for it. Another thing about Icke is that if you listen to an interview with him most of what he says is perfectly sensible self-help advice or garden variety Chomskyesque anti-capitalist rhetoric. Then he'll slowly work in his weirder ideas like "the Protocols of Zion are true but about aliens disguised as humans instead of Jewish people" or "global warming is a cover story for testing of superweapons based on weather manipulation" but in very small doses. That way you'll accept those ideas as logical consequences of the sensible stuff. He is way better at keeping up appearances than say Alex Jones.

Antifa themselves don't wield any political power in the Anglosphere, but that doesn't mean they can't be a nuisance for musicians with controversial opinions even those who're otherwise very close to them politically. Keep in mind we're not talking about those with diametrically opposite opinions (ie: RAC skinheads). We're talking about immediate peers and pioneers within their subculture.

It's within the power of labels, concert organizers and everyone else in the scene to choose to bow to their pressure or not. Sadly, most choose to not only out of expedience, but also because far-left politics and Antifa sympathizers have popular support within that scene, and openly defying them could trigger a domino effect.

Eh, they're okay. I never was that into them, but some of their songs still hold up.

The appeal of live music is lost on me. I haven't been to a live show in years, and the prospect of going into a dingy club where toilets don't work or buying overpriced drinks just aren't worth the price of admission. Plus chumming it up with complete strangers you'll never meet again no longer holds any novelty for me.

I do like the cheap merch and the opportunity to chew the fat with the band pre-show, so if that's what you're after, go for it. I've learned all to well that musicians die rather prematurely.
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To answer your question, I sadly haven't seen Cockney Rejects live, although I'd love to. They were heroes who produced some of the greatest Oi! cut to wax.

Interestingly, they switched to Metal in the middle of their career. Wonder what inspired that change:
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I had this record. It was a bore, I sold it.

I recall Boredoms, too. The same feeling.
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Hi Metalpunk Spain (Catalan?) :3

Any thoughts on this?
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Not a huge fan of the music, but the frontman of Boredoms, Eye, had a shit-ton of different projects and is absolutely legendary. From Wiki:

>Hanatarash was notorious for their dangerous live shows. Some of the band's most infamous shows included Eye cutting a dead cat in half with a machete, strapping a circular saw to his back and almost cutting his leg off, and destroying part of a venue with a backhoe bulldozer by driving it through the back wall and onto the stage.

>At a 1985 show in Tokyo's Superloft, the audience were required to fill out forms due to the possibility of harm caused by the show. The show was stopped due to Eye preparing to throw a lit molotov cocktail onto the stage. The performance cost ¥600,000 (approximately $9,000 US) in repairs.

>After several years of the intense live shows, Hanatarash was forbidden from performing at most venues, and were only allowed to return to live performances in the 1990s after Eye would agree to cease his destructive on-stage behavior.
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Re: The Boredoms

Superæ was interesting, but not enough substance to hold my attention or inspire any need to relisten. The only other material I'm familiar with is "Seadrum."
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Well, it's definitely not their best one
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Lately I've been listening to the band that did the song from the True Detective S1 show open. They're actually pretty good if you like Americana and Nick Cave style murder ballads.

No. 24544
Nothing against the song you posted, but ugh, Nick Cave is the first choice for wine aunts everywhere just like Tom Waits is the fedora of music. And every interview with him just makes me nauseous:

Anyway, carry on...
No. 24546

SWEDEN makes good death metal in 2019, YES
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It's a matter of bad luck in my case, then
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This is not Death Metal
No. 24630
That's stoner metal with a little bit of sludge influence.
In fact, most everything on that channel is stoner rock, doom, psychedelic doom, etc.

On that note, death and doom metal are very difficult to combine. I've so far only encountered one band that does it well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxtqbKga_HM
it also has synths :-DDDD.

But black and doom metal mix surprisingly well together: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsbZ35YSAUA
No. 24632
My favorite Death Metal albums:
Autopsy - Mental Funeral (crowning achievement of the entire genre)

Arghoslent - Galloping Through the Battle Ruins
Assück - Misery Index
Atheist - Piece of Time
Baphomet - The Dead Shall Inherit
Before God - Wolves Amongst the Sheep
Berserkr - Crush the Weak
Bolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No Law!
Brutality - Screams of Anguish
Brutal Truth - Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Castle (Netherlands) - Castle (1994, MMI Records)
Dark Millennium - Ashore the Celestial Burden
Darkthrone - Soulside Journey
Death - Leprosy
Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence (more Thrash than Death, but whatever...)
Derkéta - Goddess of Death
Dismember - Like an Everflowing Stream
Excalibur - The Water, the Soil & the Sand
Frightmare - Bringing Back the Bloodshed
Hellwitch - Syzygial Miscreancy
Horrific - Your Worst Nightmare
Impetigo - Horror of the Zombies
Incantation - Onward to Golgotha
Incubus - Serpent Temptation
Infester - To the Depths, in Degradation
Macabre - Gloom
Massacre - From Beyond
Master - On the Seventh Day God Created... Master
Mystifier - Wicca
Mythic - Anthology (Mourning in the Winter Solstice + Demos)
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
Morgion - Among Majestic Ruin
Morgoth - The Eternal Fall / Resurrection Absurd
My Dying Bride - As the Flower Withers
Napalm Death - From Enslavement to Obliteration LP
Necrophobic - The Nocturnal Silence
Necrovore - Divus de mortuus
Nocturnal Fear - Fog of War
Nocturnus - The Key
Novembers Doom - Of Sculptured Ivy and Stone Flowers
Nunslaughter - Hells Unholy Fire
Obituary - Cause of Death
Paradise Lost - Lost Paradise
Paramæcium - Exhumed of the Earth
Pestilence - Consuming Impulse
Possessed - Seven Churches
Purtenance - Member of Immortal Damnation
Ripping Corpse - Dreaming with the Dead
Sarcófago - The Laws of Scourge
Sempiternal Deathreign - The Spooky Gloom
Sepultura - Morbid Visions / Bestial Devastation
Sororicide - The Entity
Sorrow - Hatred and Disgust
Suffocation - Human Waste
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Totenmond - Reich in Rost
Unholy - The Second Ring of Power
Vital Remains - Let Us Pray
Vulcano - Bloody Vengeance

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Autopsy - Mental Funeral (crowning achievement of the entire genre)
I find it boring

Arghoslent - Galloping Through the Battle Ruins
Noisy nice

Atheist - Piece of Time: too technical

Baphomet - The Dead Shall Inherit: my man

Bolt Thrower - In Battle There Is No Law!: more Realms, Warmaster, For Victory,
or the last one

Brutal Truth - Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses: too clean

Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness: my man

Death - Leprosy: my man

Dismember - Like an Everflowing Stream: more of a Dark Recollections or left
hand path man

Impetigo - Horror of the Zombies: my man

Incantation - Onward to Golgotha: anti Christian :(

Infester - To the Depths, in Degradation: nice

Massacre - From Beyond: prefer Death

Mythic - Anthology (Mourning in the Winter Solstice + Demos): the Mourning one
is lovely

Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness: it's ok

Morgoth - The Eternal Fall / Resurrection Absurd: it's ok

My Dying Bride - As the Flower Withers: very innovative I think

Napalm Death - From Enslavement to Obliteration LP: more of a Harmony Corruption
Diatribes Mentally Murdered man

Necrophobic - The Nocturnal Silence: excellent but too much bad vibes. RIP

Nocturnus - The Key: perhaps could relisten it

Obituary - Cause of Death: and Slowly and End complete...

Paradise Lost - Lost Paradise: too raw, prefer Gothic

Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: nice

Possessed - Seven Churches: not my cup of tea

Purtenance - Member of Immortal Damnation: nice but not the very best from

Sarcófago - The Laws of Scourge: boring

Sempiternal Deathreign - The Spooky Gloom: don't remember

Sepultura - Morbid Visions / Bestial Devastation: don't remember

Sorrow - Hatred and Disgust: a bit boring

Suffocation - Human Waste: Effigy

Terrorizer - World Downfall: my man

Vital Remains - Let Us Pray: nah

The following ones I have not listened to

Paramæcium - Exhumed of the Earth

Sororicide - The Entity

Totenmond - Reich in Rost

Unholy - The Second Ring of Power

Brutality - Screams of Anguish

Castle (Netherlands) - Castle (1994, MMI Records)

Assück - Misery Index

Before God - Wolves Amongst the Sheep

Berserkr - Crush the Weak

Dark Millennium - Ashore the Celestial Burden

Darkthrone - Soulside Journey

Excalibur - The Water, the Soil & the Sand


Derkéta - Goddess of Death

Horrific - Your Worst Nightmare

Incubus - Serpent Temptation

Macabre - Gloom

Master - On the Seventh Day God Created... Master

Frightmare - Bringing Back the Bloodshed

Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence (more Thrash than Death, but whatever...)

Nunslaughter - Hells Unholy Fire

Necrovore - Divus de mortuus

Novembers Doom - Of Sculptured Ivy and Stone Flowers

Vulcano - Bloody Vengeance

Hellwitch - Syzygial Miscreancy

Mystifier - Wicca

Morgion - Among Majestic Ruin

Ripping Corpse - Dreaming with the Dead

Nocturnal Fear - Fog of War

No. 24661
I have many other favorites, of course. It would be quite exhausting to list, but those are what immediately came to mind. I should mention I also like Poison (Germany) - Further Down into the Abyss. Really a Death/Thrash with First Wave Black Metal influences, but whatever:

Re: Cannibal Corpse, I prefer Chris Barnes to Corpsegrinder. Eaten Back to Life and The Bleeding are their highest achievements. Everything else is just too monotonous for me.

As to stuff that you haven't listened to, give these a try:
Paramæcium- Exhumed of the Earth (best Christian Death/Doom ever. Makes Mortification look like cheap piss in comparison)

Sororicide - The Entity (cult Icelandic Death Metal):

Totenmond - Reich in Rost (Deutschepunk-influenced Death Metal):

Unholy - The Second Ring of Power (Finnish Death/Doom classic):

Brutality - Screams of Anguish (Floridian OSDM):

Castle (Netherlands) - Castle (1994, MMI Records) (unsung Dutch Death/Doom classic):

Assück - Misery Index + Discography (Crust-influenced Deathgrind):

Before God - Wolves Amongst the Sheep (BFG side-project):

Berserkr - Crush the Weak (NS Death'n'Roll):

Dark Millennium - Ashore the Celestial Burden (Proggy Death Metal with a slight Death/Doom undercurrent):

Darkthrone - Soulside Journey (the Death Metal debut of Norwegian Black Metal legends):

Excalibur - The Water, the Soil & the Sand
(album not available due to gay Hate Speech prohibitions despite featuring no lyrics targeting anyone on account of race)

diSEMBOWELMENT - diSEMBOWELMENT (legendary Death/Doom and Grindcore crossover):

Derkéta - Goddess of Death (pre-Mythic Pittsburgh Death Metal):

Horrific - Your Worst Nightmare (cheesy Death'n'Roll):

Incubus - Serpent Temptation (Christian Death/Thrash):

Macabre - Gloom (Deathgrind classic):

Master - On the Seventh Day God Created... Master

Frightmare - Bringing Back the Bloodshed (super fun Deathgrind/Thrash Metal crossover with '80s horror movie themes)

Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence (more Thrash than Death, but whatever...)

Nunslaughter - Hells Unholy Fire + Goat (Grand Belial's Key-tier blasphemous Death Metal):

Necrovore - Divus de mortuus (Texas Death Metal legend):

Novembers Doom - Of Sculptured Ivy and Stone Flowers (gloomy, almost Gothy Death/Doom):

Vulcano - Bloody Vengeance (First Wave Black Metal with Death Metal influences):

Hellwitch - Syzygial Miscreancy (hypertechnical Death/Thrash):

Mystifier - Wicca (Brazilian Blackened Death legends):

Morgion - Among Majestic Ruin (Death/Doom):

Ripping Corpse - Dreaming with the Dead (Death/Thrash classic):

Nocturnal Fear - Fog of War (non-political Death/Thrash classic courtesy of Pist Chris of Angry Aryans):
No. 24664
>purtenance and no demilich to be seen
the fuck is wrong with you?
No. 24665
Tech Death isn't my thing, so Demilich has stayed off my radar. I'll have to check them out one of these days by virtue of being an OSDM band that released material in the genre's prime.

In other news, my 100 mixed CD surprise from Rock-O-Rama Records finally arrived today. Most of it is deadstock from the '90s, but some of it is prime material. Sadly, some duplicates were included as well CDs I had acquired from other sellers, but I shouldn't moan too much considering these CDs were a fraction of the cost. Paying full price (13€) per specified item would've been too expensive.
No. 24672
i never thought of it as technical death metal but i guess you're right, it is pretty technical
No. 24688
Japanese Wagner:

You can find lots of elements Mayuzumi has learned from Mahler and Schoenberg. Of course he is a Japanese composer and this symphony is strongly influenced by this fact.
No. 24712
I'm trying to clear out my alt and emo rock backlog.
It's taking a shitton of time just to listen to one track from each album of each band to get a feeling for their aesthetic.

I don't like most of it, but I don't want to miss out on something potentially good. The lyrics are super whiny and american, though.

Maybe I should stop wasting time and go back to exploring my dadmetal backlog.
No. 24715
I probably jumped into this with the wrong mindset. It's definitely Wagnerian in the sense that it's expansive and slow, like the Rhine, but I just can't find Mahler in it.
It's pretty tame and streamlined compared to Mahler's all out extravaganzas with giant orchestras and loud trumpets.
It probably shares more with Schönberg's work, judging by how atonal and chaotic it gets in certain sections. Though I've never really listened to Schönberg all the much. Most of academic music becomes quite irksome to the ears past WW2, with a few exceptions like Shostakovich.

The ending is pretty good though, shame it picks up steam so slowly. At times it reminded me of the NGE soundtrack.
No. 24723
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Reminds me of Schnittke. Thank you, I like it.

How do you feel about Schnittke?

No. 24724
Mate if you want aesthetics, hit up some Pub Rock classics. It oozes the shit.

No. 24730
What an exaggeration, thank you very much

Purtenance is nice but I find other bands from Finland to be much more exciting.

Thinking of Disgrace Rippokoulu Krypts Demigod Abhorrence among others

Demilich is lovely it's not tech death for me, it's bizarre bizarre

And this is very nice
No. 24732
Huh? What did I exaggerate? The most hyperbolic statement made was my comparison of Paramæcium and Mortification.

Did you mean exhausting or exhaustive?
No. 24734
>How do you feel about Schnittke?
The same way I feel about Schönberg and other composers exploring compositions without melody.
"It'd probably be pretty fucking rad if I knew music theory or something, but as things are currently, this is just hurting my ears or bores me to tears"
By all means, use atonality and falsch tones, but don't make it into a jumbled mess of notes for other arse-sniffers who write the same way just to "challenge conventions" or "make something new"
Schnittke is good when he has a melody. Unbearable otherwise. I don't hate him, it's just that I don't get it, because I'm not the target audience for this kind of music.
No. 24735
Though to add, I don't remember what I actually heard from Schnittke. It was a chaotic mess, quoting Shostakovich at times, with a jazz orchestra part, and it was a lot more quiet and slow, but what you linked seems to be a coherent piece, if a bit fragmented in the sense that it has no overarching themes that repeat and is a collection of quotations probably. I'm going to listen to this multiple times, I can feel.
No. 24795
>Did you mean exhausting or exhaustive?

Yes, this, sorry
No. 24796
I mean generous
No. 24812
I can safely say I'm in love with Schnittke's 1st Symphony.
No. 24859
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No. 24869
I only just now realised that Take 'em All by Cock Sparrer is a slightly obfuscated parody of Bless 'em All, a song from WWI. Rate ability to miss the relatively obvious.

No. 24884
I listened to Kino - Pack of cigarette just now, is it where the meme comes from? I listened further and had to find out I already listened to them back in GTA IV.
No. 24885
Kino is not a meme, they are pure feels.

No. 25014
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God damn this song fucked me up.
Now I'm thinking that Path of Exile missed an opportunity by not having Wraeclast be a penal colony. Zombies and mutated beasts ain't got shit on the horrors of what your fellow man can do to you.

Imagine if the first act, you were in a penal colony, doing quests for the governor and his men, then ending in a bloody uprising, followed by fleeing from the imperial punitive expedition, deeper into the island, to discover horrors unknown.
No. 25044
I used to live close-ish to Port Macquarie :-DDD

>Because of the lack of liberties of the settlement, Governor Ralph Darling quickly sent there many 'specials' or literate convicts with a decent education who had voiced negative views about him. Later on in the settlement's history, in the 1830s, disabled convicts started to arrive. One-armed men would be grouped together and required to break stones, men with wooden legs would become delivery men, and the blind would often be given tasks during the night which they performed more skilfully than those with sight.

No. 25147
Some very late USSR synth pop (or kind of like that, I'am not genre expert) when it finnaly become allowed. Girl looks very lovely, with this dress and hairstyle like Linda Hamilton had in terminator 1 lol. Ukrainian language also sounds beutifull in this song
No. 25152
Yesterday my father came to my room just to say he dislikes what I'm listening to, just to be cheeky and ironic about me hating his new speaker-system. Though he then switched to a serious tone and said that he dislikes orchestral music and jazz, because these types of music just "go from side to side without consistency".
Which got me thinking how Wagner's music is often said to be like the Rhine, it's wide, it had a slow flow, and it goes from side to side."
If we look at more "orthodox" compositions and use the wave motif to describe the structure, we might conclude that these works are varied in structure, and while have recurring elements (like the leitmotifs), they have more "connecting tissue", which means that the compositions are asymmetrical in nature a lot of the time, while modern pop music uses the same elements over and over to form a smaller, less varied structure that lasts the whole duration of the piece, making it a symmetrical and safe work.

Though this is only if we take this half-baked comment seriously. I don't know what I'm on about.
No. 25156
Nobody in this video seems to enjoy what they do. Depressing.
No. 25158
No, it is general soviet thing. After 70 of soviet rule, comined with general people mentality, you should not enjoy and have fun on concert, but be quiet and silent and listen everything

Here is more clear example of such typical soviet audience
No. 25159
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Reminds me of how the People of Best Korea reacted to the Kpop concert the southerners gave them
No. 25162
>"Maybe totalitarianism isn't so bad after all"
I mean look at this shit:

fucking "capitalism with asian characteristics" is a living nightmare.
No. 25164
>you should not enjoy and have fun on concert, but be quiet and silent and listen everything
But that is how I enjoy music: by being quiet and listening to everything.
No. 25165
I too actually, kind of. At least I'am not emptional on public, this why I metioned it as part of "mentality".
No. 25166 Kontra

>oh wow, a little girl dancing is literally worse than the holocaust
No. 25167
Well, I thought K-Pop contracts and capitalism implementation in Korea is already known thing.
No. 25169
Hey, this is actually pretty good :D
Seems weirdly "traditional" for a "communist" country.
No. 25170
The way children have become sexualized, and in fact the main thing people even mean when they bitch about "SJWs" which is the ridiculous tranny fascism, is a fucking blight on mankind and like a growing skin lesion. It requires excision and drainage. Not even full scale Communism is probably as socially and culturally toxic although frankly in that instance "with Asian characteristics" I am not sure what the brick means but I will say this: any society that buys small children pants that say "juicy" and "frosted" on the ass for little girls is a cancerous one and the fist of a mighty and angry God strafe it.
No. 25204
As much as I've railed against Metalcore in the past, I'm starting to discover gems from the early '90s when bands were more influenced by Groove and Thrash Metal as opposed to Post-Hardcore and Melodeath. Metalcore acts seemed to collectively lose the plot by the time the 2000s rolled around and all of them wanted to be At the Gates. Thankfully, a new wave of Metalcore acts are rediscovering their roots in Hardcore, so hopefully, they'll produce music more in line with New York and less in line with Gothenburg.

Personal favorite Metalcore acts: Rorschach, Merauder, All Out War, Conviction, Integrity, Earth Crisis, Selective Aggression, Terror, Stigmata, (early) Overcast.

No. 25213

This guy is doing great mashups
No. 25382
Looks like the French media is going after Aude Mirković for her past as a Nationalist musician:

Of note, they're clutching their pearls over her "anti-Semitic" and "homophobic" lyrics, particularly from the songs "Bourgeois, nouveaux riches et décadents" and "Les Droits de l'Homme." What's amusing to me is that the first song contains no references to Jews in the least. Rather, the lyrics matter-of-factly detail the decadent lifestyles of the elites responsible for France's economic woes. They probably have a case that she's "homophobic" with "Les Droits de l'Homme" considering that she's adamantly opposed to medically assisted procreation for lesbian couples. The lyrics to that song speak of France's prohibitions on "hate speech" that protect certain classes of men (or "homme," perhaps a homo pun) effectively placing the homosexual lobby beyond reproach.

Other stuff brought up: her attacks on the media, condemnation of the Mitterrand administration, namedropping Evola in "J'ai tout compris," her time as guest vocalists in Fleurdelix et les Affreux Gaulois and refusal to grant an interview.

Good for her. Fuck these journalists.
No. 25441
This is seriously reminding me of your obsession with Gillian Anderson.

Apparently RAC Bernd likes middle-aged white women.
No. 25550
Romina Cohn - The Night


Sweet memories are tied to this. It was used in a movie that portrayed a graffiti writers trip thru Europe and really comes up great in the scene filming from the back of a night traveling train leaving the station into the darkness of the night. A cool thought going thru Europe by train at nights.
No. 25583
I can't stop listening to this extremely dumb song:

No. 25599
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Long overdue
I exhale you
I opened up to you
Venom in mania

Now, contagion
I exhale you

The deceiver says, he says
You belong to me
You don't wanna breathe the light of the others
Fear the light
Fear the breath
Fear the others for eternity
But I hear them now inhale the clarity
Hear the venom, the venom in
What you say inoculated

Bless this immunity
Bless this immunity
Bless this immunity

Exhale, expel
Recast my tale
Weave my allegorical elegy

All that I'm to do
Calculating steps away from you
My own
Growing through
Delusion from mania

Exhale, expel
Recast my tale
Weave my allegorical elegy

All control
You poison
You spectacle

Exorcise the spectacle
Exorcise the malady
Exorcise the disparate
Poison for eternity
Purge me and evacuate
The venom and the fear that binds me

Unveil now
Lift away
I see you

Chased away
A long time
No. 25704
Found this really nice album. Don't know what genre it should be filed under, but I like the "mall background noise" effect it's going for.
No. 25737
Please don't spoil, I only want to hear the full album from first to last song.

For the meantime, take this video of Bill Burr trying to explain Meshuggah.
No. 25837
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Listening to Schnittke's 0th Symphony, and it's good, though less experimental, and I have no idea why it's called "Nagasaki".
No. 25841
Okay, so the Symphony is just "Symphony No.0", and the "Nagasaki" thing is a choral work lumped with it on the CD. Cool.
No. 25842
I just wanted to listen to cheesy italian music, but the only thing that came to my mind was the song that is in the beginning of that Gomorra movie


So if any of you guys knows crappy italian songs, I would prefer something that is comparable to the french chanson.
No. 25867
>When I listen to work by avant-garde composers, more often than not I am overwhelmed with a sense of discontent. In these musical constructions everything is too clear, arithmetical and trivial. “Clear” not in the Mozartian sense, but petty and eclectic. In this fragment it seems that the composer is thinking, pondering, and here he is suffering and grieving, and it is even obvious what about, while here there is some Russian Orthodox singing, and there some Pink Floyd, which has all been “symphony-ised” by the bitter-sweet deployment of the accordion and adorned with sweet little gurgles and sobs by the violins… It’s pretty, and terribly “astral”, but I just can’t take that sort of art seriously.

>It is flat music. With no depth and perspective. Easily exhausted as a resource…
>With Bach, Mozart or Chopin, on the other hand, every sound is inexhaustible. The beginning of Requiem – nothing happens, the strings play an empty accompaniment, then the bassoon enters, then two Bassett Horns and then… time recedes, drawing the listener into sweet eternity. Like a river flowing…
>Avant-garde music, or conceptual or post-modern music – despite all its anguish, cosmic abysses, glugs and significant pauses – is light music, wonderful, sparkling, but it does not touch, it gives your cheek a quick stroke and tugs at your ears…
>I listen to it with half an ear, I recognise where the musical material comes from, I laugh and stay exactly where I am. This music does not let you rise above the mundane, nor plunge into the depths…
>Listening to it is the same as going for a walk on a picture postcard of a landscape…. It’s all very well, but not enough.
>Playing it is too easy, there is no demand for “heart or head” when performing. It plays itself…

t. gavrilov
No. 25870
Today while watching the newest Animal Kingdom episode, I suddenly heard a haunting song playing as part of the soundtrack. I immediately paused the show and googled for the song, and discovered a band called Loma which I never had heard of before. Really a niece piece of music:

No. 25872
I was never a huge fan of Downtempo/Trip Hop/Whatever but recently i start to appreciate stuff like Portishead and Massive Attack


No. 25892

Probably couldn't enjoy the song without the video but it really does work.

>I just wanted to listen to cheesy italian music

This is the majority of Italian music.
No. 25894
Okay, I can recommend some.

>Al Bano & Romina Power - Prima Notte D'Amore

>Al Bano & Romina Power - Sempre Sempre

>Nada - Amore Disperato

>Gianna Nannini - Bello e impossibile

Not really cheesy but italian 80s and fun:

>Jo Squillo - Skizzo Skizzo
No. 25930

Such a comfy story. British pornography.
No. 26013
So something occurred to me do kids even listen to music these days? What the hell do they even listen to? It dawned on me that other than Billie Eilish I have no clue who the new musicians even are, or if kids actually listen to music much. This sounds pretty retarded sure but it came about also after reflecting upon the fact I don't listen to a whole lot of music anymore either. In fact I think the main things I even listen to nowadays are vidya game soundtracks and some movie soundtracks and that's just about it, and about all of it I listen to on youtube. In fact the last time I even heard anything anywhere else was because some girl introduced me to stuff on soundcloud many years ago and she was slightly older than me too. So, no, I don't even listen to music myself much anymore either. It's a weird thought to realize.
No. 26014
New rappers like Takeshi69, Little Pump.
Lo-fi beats to study to.
Shawn Mendes.
Shitty latin-american pop. (Whenever I hear a song they sing in Spanish, I expect it to be Despacito, they are so similar.)
Timmy Trumpet

Bear in mind, I just heard these names around school.
No. 26015
While this might be valid for every other Schnittke work, Symphony 0 is a pretty orthodox work. It could have been composed by any Soviet musician with some talent. It resembles Shostakovich a lot.

I mean, just listen to it yourself:
https://mega.nz/#F!hSYzCAYB!5uUpxXi8pGp3XcsKtFVIAQ (Posting it on mega because it's too big to be put up directly on EC)

The tones are clear, and it doesn't sound "off" in any way.
It's probably like this, because it was his graduation piece at the Moscow Conservatoire.
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I heard this song on the car radio a few days ago. I know it's an old one, and that wasn't my first time hearing it, but for some reason it's been running through my head ever since.
I like the audio qualty on this version:

Pink Floyd-Wish You Were Here

No. 26126

It has a nice beat to it I guess.

I liked the video.
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No. 26491
love this fanmade video for John Maus - Keep Pushing On

No. 26501
Did Ernst hear about Negative XP?
Pretty fun and fresh punk songs, catchy as hell


No. 26611
2,6 MB, 2:07
This short segment has captivated me for the past two days now. I like how it's kind of melancholic and whimsical at the same time. Like it's indifferent to its own sadness.
No. 26691
>P. Paul Fenech - Just Killing Time

That feel when no serial killer gf.
No. 26724
>Schnittke - The Glass Harmonica
Apparently it was made as a soundtrack for a Soviet animated movie, haven't seen that one, but I like the gentle tone of the music. It's not necessarily always gentle, but when it is, it encompasses the best qualities of >>26611 in a longer form.
No. 26743
>there can be no Metal with a rhythm guitar.

Oh, fuck me. There can be no Metal WITHOUT a rhythm guitar. I totally fucked that one up.
No. 26746

my two posts
im sure music threads are shitty here (the basic bitch kind of ones)
back on kcey they had something nice still (for instance krautrock autism (krautrock is basically autism in audio form))
No. 27006
>Plan of Attack - Riot Squad

Going to see these guys in October when they open for the Rejects, but might also go see them next week depending on how busy I am moving. I really like this cover, but I don't think it's as good as the original:

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the new anamanaguchi album seems great

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I found this image of Shostakovich smiling. He's also holding a pig for some reason.
Now that I think about it, "smiling" seems like a very un-Soviet thing to do. Or even un-Russian or un-Eastern in a sense.
Next time I'm reading something Russian, I'm gonna mark on the back of an envelope how many times anyone in the book smiles.
No. 27482
What does Ernst think of Folk Metal?

Metalheads are split between loving and hating it. The Finnish scene is particularly divisive on account of its bouncy rhythms and fruity campfire vibe. Bands like Korpiklaani who emphasized quantity over quality certainly didn't help. I largely suspect late '90s / 2000s Folk Metal was popular with people who liked the notion of Metal but weren't keen on bands celebrated by metalheads. Every defining facet from the ultra clean production values to the simple chugs and epic Power Metal riffs all catered to those people's tastes and sensibilities. Throw in some Paganism along with vague nods to ancestral heritage and you've got fans for life. It wasn't always that way, and some of the earliest known Folk Metal bands were a far cry from the Finnish and Slavic scenes.

The history of the genre is quite fascinating, though. Even more remarkably is its diversity by region. A Folk Metal band from Russia, Ukraine or Belarus isn't going to sound like anything from Finland, Spain or the British Isles. Each band relies on their distinct influences. The bands whose riffs are based in Heavy or Power Metal will sound quite distinct from those based in late Bathory-esque Viking Metal or Manowar-esque Epic Heavy Metal.

Despite Folk Metal's distinct motifs and image forged by bands in Finland and Eastern Europe, some of the earliest known acts to fuse Folk instrumentation with Metal hailed from Spain and the British Isles. Progressive Rock / Heavy Metal band Ñu and their 1983 album Fuego might be the Godfather of Folk Metal. Take note of the flutes on the title track, "La bailarina", "Los caballeros de hierro" and "La dama de la carroza negra «Nessa»". Some of the tracks even have a xylophone thrown in:

That very band inspired Mägo de Oz, who in turn can be singlehandedly credited for bringing Celtic Metal to the Hispanosphere. Their earlier work was mostly folky Hard Rock with the occasional nod to Metal, but Jesús de Chamberí and especially La leyenda de La Mancha would define their career. On the latter album, you can hear the riffs cycle between bouncy Heavy Metal and straight up Power Metal with fiddles chiming in intermittently. It's unlikely the Finnish, Slavic or even British/Irish scenes heard these bands, but it's still a notable development:

Meanwhile at the British Isles, Steve Ramsey of Satan/Pariah and Martin Walkyier of Sabbat would form Skyclad. Early on, they were quite thrashy with some nods to Folk music, but the release of A Burnt Offering for the Bone Idol along with the EP Tracks from the Wilderness contributed greatly to the development of Celtic Folk Metal:

You also had Irish band Cruachan who were always known to fuse Metal with Celtic instrumentation. They started out playing Celtic Black Metal but gradually transitioned towards plain old Celtic Metal after recruiting Karen Gilligan on vocals. You can especially hear some of the Folk Metal motifs crop up during their midperiod. After Karen Gilligan left, Black Metal influences returned, but still a far cry from their early days.

Waylander, on the other hand, always kept it blackened:

Then, there was Bathory and the Viking Metal period. It was quite obviously influential to Folk Metal's development on account of its big, bombastic riffs and epic passages along with its Pagan themes. None of those albums Folk Metal proper, but it doesn't take a genius to see how influential that era were.
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It's the beginning of Fall again and I am listening to emo: Emperor X, Empire! Empire! (I Was a Lonely Estate), Mineral, etc. I don't know why but I have always associated this season with emo, perhaps since I first heard American Football's self titled album in high school. I enjoy the raw style and confessional lyrics of this genre. It's a guilty pleasure for me, kind of like anime.

Emperor X - Schopenhauer in Berlin
No. 27597
I used to be really enthusiastic about it since I like real traditional folk music longer than I liked metal, and history as well of course, but as I interacted more and more with people from the countries those bands came from online and have even been to those countries my interest in it dropped. It all rings hollow to me now. Generally I liked bands that didn't use harsh vocals (a rarity in the genre). My favorites were Ensiferum, Blind Guardian (they have folky leads on some albums), Falconer, Korpiklaani, Storm, Otyg, Arkona (from Russia), Manegårm, Elvenking, Eluveitie, Temnozor, Finsterforst, Wuthering Heights and a few others I can't remember. Nowadays I would never listen to Temnozor or Arkona solely because they're Russians.

>Bands like Korpiklaani who emphasized quantity over quality

I don't know about their catalogue as a whole but they nailed it with some songs. "Midsummer Night" is perfect and you can only really understand it after experiencing white nights up north.

No. 27599
Oh yeah, Pagan Reign (another Russian band), unlistenable to me now. Glittertind, another clean singing band. Forefather, if you count "viking" metal. Falkenbach. One of the more interesting bands I know, which isn't strictly folk metal, is the Romanian folk-influenced black metal band Marţolea. Good atmospheric stuff, IMO.

No. 27691
>Nowadays I would never listen to Temnozor or Arkona solely because they're Russians.

I feel the same way about bands from Israel :DDDDDD

The only exception I made was for Acheron Gates purportedly because they were NS or Fascist. The idea of an NSBM band from Israel was too good to pass up. The music was ultimately pedestrian, but whatever...

The other problem with Folk Metal is that bands tend to be overbearingly bombastic which can really take you out of the moment. Consequently, bands I used to enjoy no longer appeal to me. Even more "highbrow" bands like Falkenbach, Forefather and Primordial now just strike me as empty bombast, and it's particularly bitter when you revisit their older work after listening to their latest disappointments because you realize even their best material suffered from the same shortcomings.

Interesting band choices, by the way. Blind Guardian released some of the best Power Metal ever recorded, although nothing will quite top the debut Battalions of Fear. I used to really love Temnozor, but now, it sounds so hollow and kitsch. Eluviete is okay, but weren't quite for me. Same with Elvenking. Could never get into Ensiferum because that vocalist sounds so wussy.

Personal favorites: Cruachan, Skyclad, Грай [Grai], Tyr, Primordial, Finntroll, Forefather, Empyrium, Waylander, Alestorm, Geasa, Крода [Kroda].

I would have to revisit some of these to see if I still felt the same way.
No. 27701
I know how goddamn awful Brian's lyrics are (it's like maximum wangsty edgelord you could possibly get) but you guys should give Velvet Acid Christ a try
I fucking love his use of Hangpan in this.

Actually you know what maybe I should just like, buy myself a hang pan and some ayahuasca mix
No. 27702 Kontra
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*handpan whatever

> https://www.ebay.com/b/Handpans/181236/bn_7504988
>$400+ for average handpan
fuckin NOPE.jpg
No. 27704
Meh. Not really for me. Sort of reminds me of this throwaway track from V:TMB.

I'm not too into EBM or Electro-Industrial apart from some odd favorites, and I usually got into those from their other Rock/Metal-based releases. These are my groove for Industrial Rock/Metal: Godflesh, Killing Joke (more into their Post-Punk than Industrial), LSVB/Aion, The Electric Hellfire Club, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Bloodstar, Nailbomb.

This is more my style. Beware: the edgelording here is off the charts, but then again, the band's leader is a priest at LaVey's Church of Satan.

As far as "edginess" in lyrics goes, what matters most in extreme music is the instrumentation and, especially for me, riffs. If your riffs are shit, then your music is shit.

Speaking of which, I'll post some favorites of the above. Special mention goes to Bloodstar for their cover of Goblin's immortal "L'alba dei morti viventi". I'm not sure they succeeded in their ambitions to metallicize the RPI classic, but it's the thought that counts. At worst, it's a noble failure:

Everything else:
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Listened a lot of GG Allin, Vio-lence and I listened to the Jim Jones death tape

inb4 edgy:

it's that I need some energy for preparing the dishes for dishwasher and that
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>Special mention goes to Bloodstar for their cover of Goblin's immortal "L'alba dei morti viventi". I'm not sure they succeeded in their ambit

Sounds very good, genuine mood with more distortion <3 thx

Check Zombie Holocaust OST. A must (the film, not)
No. 27755
I praised GG Allin heavily in the previous music thread before that faggot Kraut countersignaled me. These classics will never be topped:

Italian Horror has great soundtracks. Suspiria is a classic, but even the cheesier ones are worth watching simply for the score.
No. 27758
I agreed with the German too. Allin was an excellent showman, but pretty mediocre as an artist.
No. 27779
>faggot Kraut

Wow, rude.
No. 27795

We had our own version of GG Allin,the guy was sentenced to 12 years in psychiatry for killing another guy and died in the war against Serbia under unclear circumstances.

No. 27820

You ever notice how so many comfy songs are tinged tinged with sad lyrics? Like you're opting out of the world by listening to it.
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RIP Eddie Money

I had my annual San Andreas nostalgia pangs in the summer and listened to this song a bunch of times.
No. 27829
>before that faggot Kraut countersignaled me.
What the actual fuck is that even supposed to mean
The fuck?
No. 27837
Interdasting. Could you tell me more? What was his music about? What are his best songs?

Throat cancer is a hell of a way to go. Can't imagine how awful his last days were. This might've been the first Eddie Money song I heard:

It means to have a very public disagreement. Normally, it's used in the context of a political discussion among fellow ideologues, but it can be applied to casual conversation generally.

Is there a problem with my choice of words? Because yeah, claiming that GG Allin accomplished nothing or had no talent is plainly untrue. And even the Aussie admits that GG was quite the showman, an important feature in Punk. In fact, one's that sorely lacking over the past two decades.
No. 27840
>So something occurred to me do kids even listen to music these days? What the hell do they even listen to? It dawned on me that other than Billie Eilish I have no clue who the new musicians even are, or if kids actually listen to music much. This sounds pretty retarded sure but it came about also after reflecting upon the fact I don't listen to a whole lot of music anymore either. In fact I think the main things I even listen to nowadays are vidya game soundtracks and some movie soundtracks and that's just about it, and about all of it I listen to on youtube. In fact the last time I even heard anything anywhere else was because some girl introduced me to stuff on soundcloud many years ago and she was slightly older than me too. So, no, I don't even listen to music myself much anymore either. It's a weird thought to realize.

Not strange to me at all. In fact, you and I might be statistics. I once recall reading a study that claimed people generally stop consuming media by the time they hit their 30s:

Keep in mind Ajay Kalia consulted user-submitted data from Spotify and Echo Nest, so this study is going to be incredibly biased by its sample and will need to be repeated several times over with broader samples in order to reach reliable conclusions. That study obviously won't account for anomalies like me because I don't use digital services apart from the occasional Bandcamp or iTunes purchase. I prefer physical media as opposed to digital media unless the latter comes with aesthetically pleasing peripherals; exclusive photos / graphics, lyric books, liner notes, et cetera. That study also won't account for families that share electronics. That is, one family member (usually a parent between his/her 30s-50s) purchasing music for one device to be shared among everyone, which is why you'll have a mix of incongruous artists on one iPod or what have you. And, obviously, that study is relying on the truthfulness of its users, and we know people never lie about their age, right?

Even so, conventional wisdom follows that people put a premium on their absolute necessities as they get older and devote much less time to keeping up with culture; food on table, paying bills, et cetera. To quote Abe Simpson:
>I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!

Nostalgia is a strong sentiment with most of us, so we get used to music being a certain way, and when it changes, it's deeply upsetting. The human ear develops differently depending on what it is exposed to. Music of two thousand years ago sounds terribly dissonant and strange to us, and ours likely would to them.

But another thing to consider: if people continued to create music within the same structure and instrumentation, how far do you think it could really stretch? A genre is merely an idiom that will eventually be exhausted no matter how many new trends arise.
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I wouldnt call it lacking. Showmanship without substance is not really somethig to pine for. Which as I remember it, is essentially what was said. The German basically said that he is remembered for eating shit, which is pretty true. His music is notable because of who performed it rather than being a song like 'If the Kids are United' which exists as a phenomenon beyond Sham 69 themselves and is something of an anthem for a subculture decades after release.
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I try to keep up with certain music genres just like I did as a teenager, but it's interesting that those albums don't become part of my identity any more. Even if the album is good, I usually forget about it after a week, and it just becomes one more title scratched off my backlog.
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>His music is notable because of who performed it rather than being a song like 'If the Kids are United' which exists as a phenomenon beyond Sham 69 themselves and is something of an anthem for a subculture decades after release.

In that case, no Punk band will ever match The Sex Pistols, and I know this chaps the collective asses of the underground. People tend to hate them as "baby's first Punk" even though most will guiltily admit to buying Never Mind the Bollocks as their first Punk album. I certainly did, and I find that album better than The Clash's entire discography.

I like Sham 69, but I'm not so sure I buy that they're still a phenom or even had much of an impact beyond skinhead subculture. It might be more of an Anglo/Oz thing, but in America, they're mentioned considerably less than, say, Black Flag, Minutemen, Meat Men or Dead Kennedys.

Trouble is, Oi! is perhaps the single most self-contained genre within Punk. There isn't a whole lot of crossover with other genres except Ska and 2 Tone. Hardcore Punk, on the other hand, has tons of crossover with other genres, which is why GG Allin's influence is much more noticeable. Metal-Archives lists at least 80 different bands that have covered GG Allin. Sham 69, on the other hand, has exactly two bands that both covered "Borstal Breakout". Even Skrewdriver has been covered more on Metal-Archives.

Also, GG Allin has at least two documentaries made about him. Where's Sham 69's documentary?

>I try to keep up with certain music genres just like I did as a teenager, but it's interesting that those albums don't become part of my identity any more. Even if the album is good, I usually forget about it after a week, and it just becomes one more title scratched off my backlog.

Oh, of course. I'm always gormandizing extreme music of all stripes. If a genre had any particularly meaning to me (namely, Metal and Punk), then I'll keep up with whatever I can, although I find myself identifying with it much less these days. I almost took an entire year off Metal before returning to it later.

Overconsumption is dangerous, though. I once recall a copypasta from vierkanal that astonishingly holds up years later because people are people.

>/mu/ has no interest in music other than as social capital. They consume enough music that their ability to appreciate the art becomes atrophied and the main goal is to just listen to more obscure stuff.
>They are remarkably in love with off-kilter pop music for a board full of people who take pride in their passion for experimental music, and arguments here quickly devolve into interminable baiting between "it sucks" / "no, it's good" / "no, it sucks" because nobody has any basic knowledge of music theory or ability to articulate their opinions beyond "feels."
>The few informed listeners of academic music spend their time signaling to the rest of the board and use their taste as leverage to get fifteen minutes of online pseudo-notoriety.
>/mu/ consists of people who aren't as weird as they like to think but use their ample free time and piracy to invest in a hobby that makes them feel special or sophisticated, allowing them to compensate for their lack of social skills and failures in concrete or academic pursuits.
>The biggest irony is that the vast majority of /mu/ is a hivemind ruled by a handful of online tastemakers mostly concerned with maintaining a balance between supporting "alternative" pop that will appeal to misunderstood teenagers and maintaining street cred among bored college students who constantly torrent "experimental" music for their mild amusement, negating the cultivation of individual taste or critical thinking in relation to music.
>It's a feedback loop of posturing, masturbatory attitudes, and enough layers of irony to suffocate any hope of meaningful conversation. This last element--irony--is vital to allowing /mu/ and similar collectives to ignore the reality of their situation and disregard posts as this one with little more than tongue-in-cheek one-word responses.
>Deep down you all know you're going nowhere in life and this is all a farce.
No. 27847 Kontra
Speaking of Eddie Money, Czech RAC band Buldok recorded a song that disturbingly parallels "Take Me Home Tonight" right down to the saxophones:

Always makes me chuckle.
No. 27849 Kontra
And, on another completely different note, Daniel Johnston died a few days ago:

Was never a fan of his music, but the outsider weirdness fascinates me. One of his fans included Kurt Cobain.
No. 27850
Tbh, Pub Rock is the most influential origin of Oi and has a big fan crossover too. The Aussie scene is especially influenced by Rose Tattoo, Cold Chisel and so on, and one can never ignore the ironic role of Glam Rock. Yank Oi suffers greatly from having no pub culture and is kind of a joke imo. The narratives and backgrounds are too different in commonwealth countries for the American scene to do much more than ape.

Also, the difference between covers and influence is important. Songs can remain uncovered and be genre defining while they can also be covered to hell and back while just being songs. And the documentary thing goes back to him as a character more than it does his music.
No. 27853
>claiming that GG Allin accomplished nothing or had no talent is plainly untrue. And even the Aussie admits that GG was quite the showman

As the faggot kraut you were talking about i have to tell you that i cleary stated that GG Allin got attention for his live act and not his music which coincides to 100% with what is written above.
His music was still objectively bad. Tastes differ and some people like listening to objectively bad music but i don't.

I like watching objectively bad movies from time to time so i kinda understand why someone would listen to GG Allin.

But i guess there is no need to keep this discussion going, you have your opinion and i have mine and none of us will be able to change the opinion of the other person so just let us end it.
No. 27884
>Tbh, Pub Rock is the most influential origin of Oi and has a big fan crossover too. The Aussie scene is especially influenced by Rose Tattoo, Cold Chisel and so on, and one can never ignore the ironic role of Glam Rock. Yank Oi suffers greatly from having no pub culture and is kind of a joke imo. The narratives and backgrounds are too different in commonwealth countries for the American scene to do much more than ape.

>Also, the difference between covers and influence is important. Songs can remain uncovered and be genre defining while they can also be covered to hell and back while just being songs.

Again, America doesn't have that type of culture, so Oi! (and Pub Rock) made less of an impact. I recall once reading a description of Punk as Glam stripped of its glitter. Apt, but I'd say it applies more to '77-style Punk and Oi! than what would come to define the American scene. New York Dolls and Velvet Underground gave everyone a kick in the ass globally, but American Punk seems more based on Garage Rock (especially the bands now dubbed "Proto-Punk") which consequently explains how it evolved to be much more aggressive than their British counterparts.

No one's denying that certain songs set a template that others more or less ape (Doom Metal in its purest form is arguably derived entirely from "Into the Void", "Cornucopia" and "Under the Sun" by Black Sabbath, but much more is going on), but American Hardcore had a much greater impact globally than did Oi! despite a song like "Borstal Breakout" defining an entire genre. At last count, I totaled at least 155 different Metal acts have covered GG Allin (probably more because Metal-Archives doesn't always note each and every solitary cover), 90 of which are Black Metal. Obviously, those guys were more influenced by Hellhammer, Venom, Mercyful Fate, Discharge, et cetera, but Allin's influence on Extreme Metal is noteworthy even if it's by war of Hardcore Punk in general rather than him directly; a bit ironic considering that GG had no respect for Metal music. Even Black Flag, Dead Kennedys or Minor Threat have been covered less than GG despite pioneering the genre and commanding far more respectability.
No. 27896
Basic story of his life:


For his songs, you need to find out for yourself which ones you like, many are on youtube. Just put Satan Panonski in the search field.

His lyrics are mostly very sarcastic and against (the yugoslav socialist) society, against the typical bourgeois facades surrounding the nuclear family life, violence, drugs, fucked up sexuality, vanity, paranoia, etc.

Nuklearne Olimpijske Igre (Nuclear Olympic Games) is generally considered his best album out of 3 albums of his, all his best known songs (Lepi Mario, Iza Zida, Oci U Magli, Pioniri maleni) are on that album:

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I like many songs from GG

Bite it you scum
Needle up my cock
Die when you die

beri gusto
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No. 27920
Metalpunk Catalan, you are my greatest ally.
No. 27956
I like Spanish women so much. They have such a natural horniness. They love to get dirty and fuck dirty. Can Catalan bro make some pictures of Spanish girls attending metal-punk concerts?
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Oh, Rozz. Where would Goth be without you? In fact, I can't think of anything Gothier than Christian Death's Only Theatre of Pain. As much as I love The Cure, Siouxsie and company, there's something distinctly dark about Christian Death. Unlike their British contemporaries who owe more to Post-Punk with its smooth, silky and austere rhythms, these LA Goths sound much closer in spirit to fellow Californians Black Flag or Germs. Those Post-Punk basslines combined with Rikk Agnew's effect-soaked harmonics and noise over gnashing Hardcore Punk riffs. Shoegaze and Dreampop wish they had Christian Deathrock's atmosphere.

What will make or break this album for most people is Rozz Williams, whose campy lisp hovers somewhere between spoken and sung the entire time. In a way it's pretty fascinating: he uses the "sound" of words and slight intonations to function as vocal hooks, and there's kind of a subliminal melody in that. Ultimately it wouldn't be the same with more conventional vocals; the way Rozz licks his vowels makes perfectly clear the implications of disturbing absurdist lines like "talk about sugar on the six fingered beast / conversations about the holes in your hands." He even sneers about "mortals" at some point.

Bottom line: this fucking rocks and everyone should listen to it.
No. 28406
I've been digging Men I Trust's new album. There's a surprising divergence in styles across the tracks.


You may also know Matt Berry from his various acting roles but he does put together a decent album if you have low-expectations:
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About a week ago, Grade 2 released a new preview for their upcoming album. It's really fucken good tbh. It's fast, powerful and at just over 90 seconds long, doesn't overstay its welcome. The other song isn't bad neither. I'm looking forward to when the album drops on the 11th of next month tbh.

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I wouldnt call them oi. Id call them street punk which, while often used interchangeably, is not. The album is closer to Rancid and the Pistols than modern oi.
No. 28446
>The album is closer to Rancid and the Pistols
Fair enough. RYM treats Street Punk and Oi! as one and the same, but I distinctly remember the time they were considered separate genres. They're especially different when you consider aesthetics and production values. Street Punk tends to sound cleaner, melodic and more uptempo whereas Oi! sounds much grittier and aggro. The aesthetic differences are especially apparent in art style and fashion. Street Punk embraces leather jackets, patches, mohawks, liberty spikes and ransom letter font whereas Oi! is strictly flight jackets, boots and braces.

UK82 bands like The Exploited, The Varukers and G.B.H. tend to be lumped in with Street Punk based on aesthetics, but you can hear slight parallels when you compare The Casualties or Rancid to the aforementioned British bands.

Bands typically considered Street Punk: Rancid (as you mentioned), The Distillers, The Casualties, The Devotchkas, Peter and The Test Tube Babies, (early) Blitz, Infa-Riot, Major Accident, The Ejected, A Global Threat, Lower Class Brats

Man, this sent me back in time. I used to really love this kind of stuff, but listening to Riot Squad now feels hollow and unintentionally depressing. I think I'm due to relisten to these bands.
No. 28448 Kontra
For the sake of argument, we can even include Anti-Nowhere League in Street Punk. To me, We Are...The League stands head and shoulders above the rest. I don't think any Street Punk band will ever top them.

Polite kontra
No. 28452
>Oi! is strictly flight jackets, boots and braces.
Nah. Braces are super common but not mandatory regalia. Derby style boots again are most common, but monkey boots and brogues exist, especially once you get into suede territory.

Jackets are really broad though. To me, harries are more iconic than bombers. Im a field jacket guy myself though. Used to roll with harries when I was in colder climes though.
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Als ob, listen to the Plan of Attack cover of Riot Squad that I posted a while back. Its breddy good, seeing them in a couple of weeks too.
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Wish more modern country music was like this.
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>Barbarasong from the Dreigroschenoper 1931 movie, performed by Carola Neher
The range of emotions portrayed in this small piece is overwhelming, from proud and smug Neher suddenly goes to weakened and inflamed by love.
I am obsessed by her performance, especially the "Nein" and "Tja" parts and the moment the whole atmosphere turns around.
Not to mention Neher's own tragic biography that haunts all of this. Being a communist herself, she exiled the third Reich just to die from Typhus in a soviet death-camp.
No. 28687

I found this sick Japanese album cycle a while ago, and I love it to death.
It has a good pace, no vocals, and it doesn't make me sick and dull like some other Japanese albums I love do.

Basically it's a collection of remixes and reworks. (From The Beatle's "Yesterday" to Chopin's 1st Ballad.)

I thought about trying to make a playlist and then streaming some of it on the chan radio.
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Following a long sequence of recommended videos eventually led me to these by Amigo The Devil. I listened for about 30 seconds and was hooked. The genre is murderfolk, and the lyrics straddle the line between morbid and comical.

Hell And You

I Hope Your Husband Dies
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Came across this good indie J-rock band last week, and I don't think I ever enjoyed something with a female singing in a long time.
Gonna post two songs from this album.
The first one is a bit repetitive, but that guitar riff at the start, it speaks to me. (I listen to it over and over again just because of that motif. It's really good.)
No. 29176
>Came across this good indie J-rock band last week, and I don't think I ever enjoyed something with a female singing in a long time.

Female vocals seem to work really well in Japanese, although I found track 2 a little too into that high-pitch thing they do. My example is an EP that always calms me - sounds almost Icelandic in its soft-tones:
No. 29284
English female vocals in punk and oi can be pretty kino too.
t. listening to Royal Oi!
No. 29458
I'd recommend giving a go to their Hi Fi Anatomia or Town Age albums. The latter has entrenched itself into my morning routine.
No. 29585
I listened to those too, but I linked this one, because I liked a track from that album the most, simple as.
No. 29869
Grade 2's new album is out. It's pretty different from their older stuff, but I like it.


Ramallah also released a new album recently which was p. good. Can't find a link that isn't youtube generated (and thus unavailable in most places) though. Again, quite different from their older stuff though. Has more melody to it than what they've done in the past.

Here's one of my favourite tracks from it, just in case it does work on your country. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8btRSGFZlA
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What do you think of Frank Rennicke?

For those unaware, Frank Rennicke is a German Nationalist singer/songwriter who plays ballads and traditional German Folk songs as well as original material. He is also active in the Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (NPD) and even ran for President of Germany twice, of which he received a paltry 4 votes out of 1224 in 2009 and an even smaller count of 3 votes in the first and second ballot during the 2010.

Naturally, his songs are highly influenced by his politics with common themes including Nationalism, glorification of the NSDAP, xenophobia (especially towards Poles), anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism and anti-Americanism. His music was predictably indexed and some songs outright banned. In a twist of irony, Frank cites popular left-wing singer/songwriter Reinhard Mey as a continuing source of inspiration as well as Hannes Wader and Wolf Biermann.

Being a singer of music with controversial themes, Frank is no stranger of running afoul of the law. In November 2000, the Böblingen magistrates' court sentenced Frank to 10 months' imprisonment for sedition of the people (Volksverhetzung), for which he was granted parole. The Stuttgart state court overruled this decision, and on October 15, 2002, it sentenced Frank to 17 months' imprisonment, on eight counts of Volksverhetzung and for contravening the law forbidding the distribution of writings that may be harmful to young people. He was again granted parole.

In 2016, Bavarian police raided Frakn's home in connection to an illegal weapons case in Schöllnach. Police confiscated "weapons" from Frank's home which were later returned after having been revealed to be toy laser guns that likely belonged to one of his eight children:
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I don't understand how you can have serious discussions about all music genres in only one thread, there should be a separate thread for each genre to be able to get to informative in-depth conclusions

t. listening to Henry Cow
No. 29877
It's just the way it is. I've asked if we could have genre-specific discussions, but the general consensus is that it all belongs under one music thread unless the following is large enough to justify splitting it off into its own discussion.

I agree placing all music discussion under one roof tends to bottleneck discussion too tightly, but really, there's maybe a handful of Ernsts passionate about music.
No. 29923
I like his poland song, but he is faggot.
Are you from germany?
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Cringeworthy garbage.
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Recently I've been listening to FPM again and it still holds up pretty well. The cross between Shibuya-kei (Japanese retail pop), house music and trip-hop gives it a unique sound that I didn't get at 16.


>Every video features smoking

It was a different time.

I prefer it this way. Ernsts are exposed to different music and the board is slow enough that nothing is lost.
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Had this song stuck in my heda all day. Dunno if non-commonwealth Ernsts even have the cultural baggage of the name, but it's essentially an ultra campy postwar radio show about a Royal-Commando-turned-secret-agent foiling devilish plots to destroy Britain. They made a few (bad in a kind of good way) movies and a TV series in the 70s too.

Frankie Flame - Dick Barton
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Does anyone know the song from this webm? I guess its some basque punkband.
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