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No. 31840 Systemkontra
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I didn't really want to start thread with topic and just wanted to post in news thread but I guess this is the only sensible place
So apparently DoD is saying that they anticipate climate change being so extreme, so soon, as to have catastrophic consequences within the next 20 years up to and including the total collapse of the US military in its ability to respond to threats and collapse of US infrastructure.

This worries me especially because I've already had multiple blackouts this year. Has anyone else experienced this? And no I don't live in California either



Hey guys, why do we keep losing power?
No. 31847
Decaying infrastructure with all surplus money being funneled to Wall Street and "defense" contractors.

I would guess that the Pentagon is just exaggerating, in the hopes that some Republicans might realize that climate change is a problem, including for US strategic interests. You can't assume honesty and good faith out of any governmental body in this country, even when they say something that you are inclined to agree with.
No. 31848
>You can't assume honesty and good faith out of any governmental body in this country, even when they say something that you are inclined to agree with.
You can't assume good faith in any government.
No. 31850
I dunno, maybe if you live in Scandinavia.
No. 31857
Fucking lol
No. 31859
Remember that Columbia undergrad who carried around a mattress to protest her alleged rapist being on campus? Apparently now she hangs out with right wingers because she fucked a libertarian guy she met on Tinder. Also she’s leaving her museum fellowship to start a masters in traditional Chinese medicine (lol).

Very wacky profile piece. Unsurprising that a Dalton and Columbia grad would end up reneging on their student radicalism though.

No. 31862
>Hey guys, why do we keep losing power?

Overuse of decaying infrastructure. Ironically one big offender are electric cars. Charging a Tesla apparently requires about 350kW for the duration of the charge. I've seen a breakdown of the numbers that resulted in: If 1.000.000 Teslas would charge simultaneously it would surpass the total budget of energy produced in Germany by more than 50 times. So far the number of teslas here is somewhere in the thousands, but there are 54M cars registered in Germany and if you'd replace only a fraction of that you reach the limit of our infrastructure.
No. 31863 Kontra
Who cares? This is entirely irrelevant information for 99.99% of people. Take your opinion mongering elsewhere, kthx.
No. 31864
My opinion mongering? I just think it’s funny when activists get exposed as elite socialites and hobbyists (cf. Eve Peyser). Left wingers should take this episode as a warning about the true allegiance of the Brooklyn and Chicago Twitter / alternative media circles.
No. 31871 Kontra
How about she can do whatever she wants and fuck whoever she wants?
No. 31890
I agree with the other American that this is worthy of sociological interest. I don't think it warrants much more discussion than the one explanatory reply he made, but it's at least worth posting.
No. 31892
Err, I think his main point was
>who the fuck is this person and why am I supposed to care
Or at least, that would be my point. Like seriously this is beneath even celebrity gossip. I have no idea who this woman is or why I'm supposed to care about any of this stuff. It's Daily Jolt material
actually I don't even know if you guys had daily jolt but it was a fucktarded campus gossip website.

I fail to see the interest in any of this at all

I have heard this argument before about electric and fossil fuels and also about how renewables supposedly cannot close this gap just based on purely the manufacturing and industrial sector's energy consumption needs, let alone touching anything like commercial or consumer lighting or whatever people think our power grid mainly supplies.

Funny story I actually saw something where a bus was shown half swallowed by a sinkhole and I immediately asked myself "what shithole third world country did that happen in"
apparently it was mine https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.pennlive.com%2fnews%2f2019%2f10%2fpa-street-to-be-closed-for-weeks-after-sinkhole-partially-swallows-bus.html%3foutputType%3damp

Other funny but sadder story:
The other day while walking around I heard kids playing. I looked over and the one was chasing the other around and bullying him while yelling "stop resisting! Stop resisting!" Children are larping police brutality now :(
No. 31895
The interest derives from larger social dynamics being enacted in a microcosm. In this case, the hollowness of modern American liberalism in spite of the imperious end-of-history attitude that it takes. I wouldn't read too much into this particular example, but I think the whole edifice will come crashing down in a year or two if it is hit by the right kind of cultural shock. Similar to how this woman went from literally hating men to hanging out with libertarian men who had smeared her a few years earlier.
No. 31897 Kontra
It isn't though

Oh god I just realized are you that one retard who was obsessed with gamergate? There's literally nothing of interest here. If your whole point is the same thing as "oh look this college age guy is now fucking a leftist college girl!" then the only thing that's incredibly shallow is whatever point you think youre trying to make here.
No. 31903
I posted the following in this thread as this thread often (inevitably) devolves into politics (I don't want to shit up the vidya threda), and that thread is systemkontra

>Comrade, the problem is clearly Capitalism.
The "problem" is Technical society.1
I do not have too much in the day to post, so I don't feel I can get too deep into it right now, but I think to say it is just "Capitalism" is missing the point. Rather, the system that we have right now (call it whatever you want because people have different definition of Capitalism and they tend to use it as just a magic word)2 has proven to be the system that technique can most effectively propagate in.

Nick Land's view of Capitalism as a self-transcending force intrinsically linked to technique is interesting if a bit too abstract for my taste. There is no "late-stage capitalism." here. In this sense I would agree with leftish people who say that the self-proclaimed Communist3 countries in history are not really "Communist" at all. The difference ultimately lies in how well technique is integrated into each respective system. Communist countries do not incorporate technique as efficiently as Capitalist ones do (this is perhaps part one of the reasons why Capitalism has beaten its ideological opponents of Communism and Fascism). Capitalism is more "pure" technique than Communism. Communist countries still contain much of the "essence" of capitalist countries in their technique, but they just incorporate it in a different way and less efficiently.
You can also stretch this further and say that the state of being "A Modern" has to do with living in a technological society, and therefore any society influenced by "Capitalism" is to some degree more modern than a society that is not Capitalist. Technical society is modern society, and Capitalism is "more modern" than the modernity of Communism and Fascism.4
There is also a sense that Liberalism is ultimately much more totalitarian than either Communism or Fascism; that there is nothing outside of Capitalism.
I have not read Mark Fischer, but I assume this is part of what he discusses (thanks to the German Ernst).
“Nothing human makes it out of the near-future.” - Essentially, technique will consummate man.

A large corporation has many similarities to a socialist government. I do not think that the worldwide progression to a mixed-model such as China is just a coincidence (here the US is certainly more liberal, but if you speak to libertarians they will gladly point out all of the subsidies, government programs, and corporate welfare that makes the US not a free market).
This mixed-model might more effectively propagate technique than a free market, and so this system is likely to dominate in the future.
Of course, underlying this is the idea that technique propagates itself, and that more technical societies will inevitably dominate less technical ones.

  1. I use the following definition of technique: https://ellul.org/themes/ellul-and-technique/#
  2. A magic word in this case is word that doesn't have the same fixed meaning to everyone who uses it (it really only has a vague connection to some general idea), but instead is used as an ideological trigger point to initiate a response i.e a word of emotional reference. Magical words are associated much more strongly with symbols than they are with definitions. People (on the left presumably) share the same emotion towards "Capitalism", but have different definitions of it, if they have concrete definitions at all.
  3. This is my definition of a communist country in this post; a communist country is a country that proclaims itself to be communist and that the vast majority of people view as such.
I do not really view the modern People's Republic of China as a communist country.
4. Because Fascism does not view politics as just about economics, and therefore not just about the right application of technique in the right way, Fascism is "less modern" than the other two waves.

As an aside:
I don't know if you're the same American Ernst who always replies in that same milquetoast moderate progressive way, but your posting style certainly reminds me of how most Anglo-Canadians speak in the big cities. There is just something about the way you write and the specific tone in which you write (regardless of what you say) that I can instantly recognize as being progressive (but not too radical mind you, "We live in a polite society. :^)").
No. 31906 Kontra
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I really don't want to shit up this board with the cancer killing everything (US politics bullshit) but I was reading this and just had a chuckle
>Iowa GOP senator Joni Ernst said Vindman was an “honorable man” and that the attacks on him were “inappropriate.”

This is actually pretty funny

>Every year, the U.S. government spends more than $1.4 billion on its public relations and advertising efforts — not that Ernst has a problem with all of that. She's just not a fan of the .002 cents each American taxpayer essentially spent last year on federal "mascots," as well as the several thousand more dollars it put toward various trinkets, and is proposing a bill to end it all.

>Ernst unveiled her SWAG Act, which stands for Stop Wasteful Advertising by the Government, on Tuesday, which would block federal agencies from creating mascots unless it's done via statute. Smokey Bear and Woodsy Owl, for example, would be safe, but Sammy Soil, a literal chunk of soil with eyes created by the USDA's conservation branch, would be rooted out. So would Franklin the Fair Housing Fox, The Green Reaper, and some other mascots Ernst says have been known to make babies cry.

>A variety of knickknacks are also targeted under Ernst's proposal to "Bag the Swag:" the $605,000 spent on coloring books last year; $33,000 on Snuggies; $17,000 on drink koozies; and $16,000 on fidget spinners. Ernst would also "prohibit the purchase and distribution of 'swag'" like these, unless they're also authorized by statute, per Ernst's press release.
No. 31932
A new cystic fibrosis therapy dramatically improved patients’ lung function and showed clear signs of targeting the genetic root of the disease, instead of just alleviating symptoms — a breakthrough so long-sought that many doctors and patients are moved to tears when talking about it.

The data, to be unveiled Thursday at a national conference in Tennessee and simultaneously published in two leading medical journals, was so persuasive that the Food and Drug Administration last week approved the three-drug combination, called Trikafta — five months ahead of the agency’s deadline. The drug could benefit 90 percent of patients with the disease, a major advance over previous drugs that worked in a tiny fraction of the people with the disease or had more modest effects.

“I’m overjoyed,” said Francis Collins, the director of the National Institutes of Health, who was part of one of the teams that discovered the gene defect that causes cystic fibrosis in 1989. “Thirty years along, with many bumps along the road and so many people waiting and hoping that something like this would happen — and here we are.”

The therapy is a combination of three drugs that wouldn’t have been possible if scientists working in academic laboratories hadn’t unraveled the basic biology of the disease. Finding the gene was a needle-in-a-haystack-type problem, Collins said, and it led scientists to a malfunctioning protein that normally keeps the right balance of salt and water in the lungs. There are more than 1,700 gene mutations that can cause the protein to malfunction, but in the most common mutation, the protein is misfolded and can’t reach the right spot in the cell — and even if it does reach the cell, it doesn’t work properly. The new combination therapy includes one drug that corrects the misfolded protein and two that activate the correctly folded protein when it reaches the right spot in the cell.

In the largest trial, reported in the New England Journal of Medicine, 403 patients who had at least one copy of the most common gene mutation underlying cystic fibrosis received either Trikafta or a placebo. There were improvements in objective tests of lung function, decreases in lung problems and hospitalizations and an increase in people’s quality of life.

Many physicians see the most transformative potential impact of the drug in the hope that it will be eventually approved for younger children, as Vertex’s other drugs have been over time. The drug can help older patients, but it can’t erase years of lung damage; if it works and is safe in younger children, it could prevent damage in the first place.

“With treatments like this, we can actually anticipate that if a young child were started on this therapy, they could actually expect to have a normal life expectancy,” said Deepika Polineni, a pulmonologist at the University of Kansas Medical Center involved in the trial who has received consulting fees from Vertex. “This is a breakthrough therapy for people with cystic fibrosis.”

No. 31933
I already know exactly what I'm going to do with the lottery money if I ever hit the big one (despite the far off one in 352 million chances).

I'm going to be investing in biotech and genomics in one wing of it. BioGen is going to get a big company and a big moneymaker.

And then I'm going to invest in a large media company. I'm going to have the Ficus Group owning several companies including in entertainment media primarily video games, as well as a newspaper company and possibly dabble in film and video.

And then I'm going to have several 501(c) or 503(c) or whatever it's called foundations and global charities. And then I am going to do the Christian thing as much as possible in helping poor people as well as trying experiments in both creating sustainable habitats in deep space expeditions and Mars and moon colonization (which BioGen can help with) as well as creating communities off the grid because I want to work with those Libertarians and homeschool Christian's who want to live deep innawoods and sever themselves from the growing global tyranny so that no one can face starvation if they become SINless and refuse to participate in the Chinese style social credit system, shitbook, total surveillance state etc. And then I'm going to publish through Ficus some data siphons to nab everybody's personal info and find a way to legally publish it then ask volunteers if they're okay with that and keep the rest sealed just to prove a point about invasiveness of data collection and start a national debate about the right to privacy. I'm going to try to keep anonymized video and image publisher social networks to compete with and subvert YT and FB where the people can be safe. And then I'm going to establish a secret intelligence and surveillance network of my own to work against certain pernicious elements of the elite and of course first thing I do is going to lawyer up.

I am confident that even $132 million is enough to kick start literally all of this. Sadly I am just another temporarily embarrassed American millionaire, but it's quite fun to dream. Just imagine being so poor and homeless you literally cannot afford to dream because you literally don't have the money to buy a $2 lotto ticket.

I want to change that, God
No. 32107
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While racist abuse of players inside stadiums attracts attention outside Bulgaria, within the country it is the Roma who are the principal targets of thugs in black and men in suits. The Roma community makes up just under 5% of the country’s population of almost 7 million and is its biggest minority group.
The government of prime minister Boyko Borissov is propped up by a grouping of three small rightwing populist parties known collectively as the “United Patriots”. They are made up of the National Front for the Salvation of Bulgaria (NFSB), the Bulgarian National Movement and the Attack party.
Krasimir Karakachanov, head of the Bulgarian National Movement, holds three portfolios – deputy prime minister, minister for defence and minister for public order and security. His “Roma integration strategy,” or “concept for the integration of the unsocialised Gypsy (Roma) ethnicity” to give it its formal name, is due to be presented to the Bulgarian parliament and could soon become law.

It defines Roma as “asocial Gypsies,” a term used by the Nazis, and calls for limits on the number of children some Roma women can have; the introduction of compulsory “labour education schools” for Roma children and forced work programmes for sections of the community. It also depicts the Roma as “non-native Europeans” left over from the Ottoman empire.
His party’s manifesto also calls for the creation of “reservations” for Roma based on the model used for Native Americans or Indigenous Australians, claiming that they could become “tourist attractions”.
Earlier this year, following violence between Bulgarian Roma and non-Roma, Karakachanov declared: “The truth is that we need to undertake a complete programme for a solution to the Gypsy problem.”
His predecessor as deputy prime minister Valeri Simeonov described the Roma as “arrogant, presumptuous and ferocious humanoids”. He was also chair of Bulgaria’s National Council for Cooperation on Ethnic and Integration Issues at the time.

Following elections in 2017, which saw the trio of far-right parties emerge as key players in Bulgaria’s government, campaigners claim that hate crimes and rhetoric against the Roma have intensified.
Incidents include anti-Roma riots; demolition of Roma homes deemed “illegal”; police raids and deaths in custody; and members of the community in rural areas killed while out collecting firewood.
Zvezdomir Andronov, leader of the Bulgarian National Union, an ultra-right party which is not represented in parliament, was recently a guest on one of the country’s most popular political talk shows, where he said: “Gypsies, Turks, Armenians and Jews are guests in Bulgaria and if they are good guests, they can live peacefully here.”

No. 32108 Kontra
>Roma face racism every day
No. 32112
America should take in gypsy refugees from the evil Europeans before it's too late. Write to your congressman today.

Yes, Bulgaria is very evil and some gypsies actually get honest jobs and houses (at which point they are ostracised) but still.
No. 32113
Ah yes, The Guardian, that noted American daily newspaper.
No. 32117 Kontra
What he's probably trying to say is:
Don't feel sorry for the gypsies, and don't fall for bullshit articles about them crying.
Only the most retarded, out of touch western and west aping liberals like the gypsies, and even then, they only "like" and "feel sorry" for them because they never met one.

There is no lower level of human existence than that of the gypsy's, and they deserve every single "bad" thing done to them, from discrimination, beatings to outright attempts at genocide.
The existence of the gypsies is a historical misstep that both the Indian kingdoms, the Ottomans, the Balkanites, the Romanians and the Hungarians failed to correct.

You can't correct them. They're stupid, they're inbred and they are also aggressive. (One in a hundred thousand is a functioning, normal human, the rest vary from drug addicts to low level proles that dwell in favela tier homes or newly built government housing they'll eventually turn into favela tier shacks.)
And no amount of "inclusion" "integration" and money will change the fact that they are genetic waste that we (The Bulgars, Turks, Indians, Romanians and Magyars) failed to clean up.

And you can call me a /pol/tard, you can say you are disappointed, but I'm unwilling to compromise my opinion on this issue.
Don't feel sorry for them, don't propagate them, don't donate to organisations that help them, because they don't deserve anything but contempt, hatred and pain for leeching off the societies they live in.
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A New Zealand porn boss charged with sex trafficking, after 22 young American women claimed they were conned into appearing in sex videos, is on the run from US authorities.

The United States Department of Justice has issued a media release overnight describing Michael James Pratt as a "fugitive".

Pratt heads adult video provider Girls Do Porn, the target of a claim in the San Diego Superior Court by 22 women.

They claim Girls Do Porn was advertised on Craigslist as a modelling website and they were lied to about the distribution of pornography they took part in, instead allegedly being told the material would only be sold on DVD to "private collectors" and "small video stores" in New Zealand, Australia and Europe, The Daily Beast reported this week.

Instead, the lawsuit alleges the resulting videos were posted directly to the internet where they have been hugely popular — the Department of Justice's US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of California said financial records showed the websites had generated more than $17 million in revenue.

By 2016, the San Diego-based company's videos had been viewed 667,612,456 times on PornHub, The Daily Beast reported.

Now Pratt, co-owner Matthew Wolfe and adult film performer and producer Ruben Garcia have been charged with sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion and, with a fourth person, conspiracy to commit sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion.

The first charge has a minimum penalty of 15 years in jail and maximum penalty of life in custody and a $250,000 fine, according to the Department of Justice.

The three other defendants are all in custody or accounted for, but the department said 36-year-old Pratt "is a fugitive".

According to the complaint, the four accused are alleged to have used deception and false promises to lure the victims, who had responded to ads for modelling jobs that would supposedly pay US$5000 ($7900).

To persuade the women to participate, the defendants convinced them they could remain anonymous and their videos would not be posted on the internet, the department said. In reality, the entire purpose was to post the videos on the internet.

Pratt had previously claimed the women were presented with a contract to sign, in which they agreed to the terms of the shoot and the distribution of the material.

But the department alleged in the lawsuit that: "Some of the women were pressured into signing documents without reviewing them and then threatened with legal action or outing if they failed to perform; some were not permitted to leave the shooting locations until the videos were made; family and friends and the general public eventually saw the videos online; some victims were harassed and ridiculed and estranged from their families as a result; and some were sexually assaulted and in at least one case raped.

"Some were forced to perform certain sex acts they had declined to do, or they would not be paid or allowed to leave."

Girls Do Porn developed a huge following and its dedicated fans obsessed over the amateur actresses, sparking web forums where users revealed the women's real names, hometowns and social media accounts.

Some of the women lost their jobs or were expelled from universities. The fallout cost a Miss Teen Delaware winner her crown.


According to a story in the NY Post from September some of the Jane Does had also attempted suicide as a result of the circulation of the videos on the internet
No. 32133
>Some of the women lost their jobs or were expelled from universities. The fallout cost a Miss Teen Delaware winner her crown.
People have sex here and there, why having it filmed is some kind of a crime for girls who participated in that?
>They claim Girls Do Porn was advertised on Craigslist as a modelling website and they were lied to about the distribution of pornography they took part in
This is a crime, no joke.
No. 32136
I guess it depends on the employer and the uni. Maybe some of them attended christian universities, which would just shit themselves.
No. 32143
It's a joke where I'm trying to trick you into taking Gypsies. A play on the naivety of North America that somehow managed to integrate gypsies.

Seriously though, how did the US manage it? Gypsy curses are still part of your culture so you must've had a few but they seem to be absent from your experience. These people have survived the Nazis and constant totalitarian attempts at integration but could do nothing against the blob of American consumerism.

I don't know. Maybe I'm just soft because I don't really encounter the worst of continental gypsies but I can see it as a two-way street. Why should a gypsy abandon elements of their frankly toxic culture if they are effectively branded from birth as a gypsy and cannot live among us or even be allowed to live unmolested?

Even in the UK our integrated (reformed? settled?) gypsies will hide their identities because of the prejudice they hold. They rarely attend school even if they're able because they'll just be violently bullied so it creates a vicious cycle.
No. 32144
>Seriously though, how did the US manage it? Gypsy curses are still part of your culture so you must've had a few but they seem to be absent from your experience. These people have survived the Nazis and constant totalitarian attempts at integration but could do nothing against the blob of American consumerism.

According to Wikipedia it is estimated that we have about 1 million Roma/Gypsy in the US, but I have never encountered any in my life. As a kid I knew what gypsies were from reading novels for children like Goosebumps or Holes, in which gypsy mystics and fortune tellers sometimes figure as minor characters. As you say they must have been assimilated into mainstream American culture somehow. Perhaps this was possible because Americans did not really know what gypsies were.
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Friend of mine was part Croatian gypsy. His parent had some gypsy tendencies or maybe this is just what Croatians are like because they looked very Croatian, and he still had some traces of them but...
No. 32146
This post alone has convinced me that Hungarians and Bulgarians (same difference) are a serious problem and I unironically should take every Roma complaint about persecution seriously.

Just remember what happened to Kosovo if you start getting too uppity towards them.
No. 32149
A culture is treated the way it expects its members to behave. That's what social standards are for.
If a culture encourages or exalts bad behavior, I can't blame other cultures for condemning them for the same.

Certain southern cultures encourage nepotistic and parasitic behavior, and hold that cheating is not a misdeed if its done to outsiders. That is fine, as long as they do not then complain about being disliked for that same behavior. Don't know if I'm growing conservative, but I think social pressure exists for a reason.

I don't really get offended when people call kazakhs vain, ignorant or lazy. Because as a culture, we are.
No. 32150 Kontra
I think it's fine for a gypsy to stop identifying as a gypsy when they stop acting like a gypsy. Because then they're no longer a gypsy.
I don't see it as "hiding identity", but rather abandoning it. If your culture expects or encourages you to be a subhuman, that culture needs to fuck off, heritage be damned.
No. 32153
Never met a gypsy, not even from second hand, though I read about them in books. I can imagine the lack of attention they get might be either:
1)Other ethnic minorities are more "relevant" due their larger size and the fact they settle down and share space with the majority.
2)The "get off my lawn" mentality means a nomadic group won't catch as much heat. Locals won't care once you're gone and will likely forget quickly.
3)The US is really big. Lots of maneuvering room.
4)Burger education means your average bydlo doesn't know what exactly a gypsy is. The most people think of when they hear gypsies are fortune tellers, that chick from the Disney version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame, and that a lot of them died in the Holocaust.
5)Related to the above, most Americans don't have any direct historical baggage related to them, unlike other groups. Central/Eastern Euro immigrants, who would have some familiarity, lose this facet once they become assimilated. Gypsies then become something without context.
6)American consumerist culture is "welcoming" in a sense, though that's really its own subject. Plus it's easier to accept something when you're not being shot at.
No. 32155 Kontra
>Oh god I just realized are you that one retard who was obsessed with gamergate?

I'm right here, Schiz. Had nothing to do with that article about mattress girl, although I see his point. Even so, we agree that topic would be far more at home on a gossip site (Kiwifarms) than here.

I'm not "obsessed" with Gamergate either, but I can appreciate the fact the timeline of events continues to cause clickbait writers to caterwaul years later and was the first salvo against Gawker. For the sake of keeping this thread on track, let's just concede we fundamentally disagree.

If you can't detect me from my other posts (here's a hint: I'm far more taken by music than games), then there's nothing I can do to help you.

Kontra for no news on my end.
No. 32159
It's not new news but apparently part of the reason why the Armenian genocide recognition was dropped was partly to do with the Republican pedo speaker of the House either getting paid off or being blackmailed or both
I just found this angle of that old story interesting.
No. 32165 Kontra
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>Hurr hurr I’m talking on behalf of my entire country and the military
>Hurr hure we’re going to invade a nato member and give a country to a people that explicitly stated they do not wish to create a state
Nobody cares, Ameritard.
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Hey I didn't know that she was a gypsy. Apparently so is Michael Costello and a few other famous people.

It's probably because they just got integrated. All Americans know is they're just a usually swarthier European and maybe there weren't enough of them in one single big migration to form a large subculture. Like has been noted ITT Americans are famous for obliterating peoples right down to the culture and DNA strands until nothing but a burger with slightly different seasoning exists.

Even Jews who have like six or seven times as many of them as gypsies keep complaining nonstop about the "threat" of American assimilation, so much so that various nationalist, conservative, and right wing Israelis have been complaining about it going so far as to call us a "second Holocaust" through intermarriage
It takes us roughly two generations to obliterate a people. The first group of people here is obviously always going to be a foreigner living in America, but their children will be almost fully Americanized for the most part. The second generation born here is more likely to go plastic paddy tier and try aping their grandparents culture and customs but it already would be lost to them and they'll be fully burger on the inside. This counts for Jews and gypsies.

The Nazi problem among many other things is they saw everything as being genetic, including the mistaken assumption that all cultures carry geentically--they clearly don't. Americans allow enough space for a subculture so people don't feel so much undue repression as to exist in their culture as an act of defiance, but rather get baited into adopting our mainstream trash culture, and since there's little emphasis on genetics outside ideas of "race" that first generation born here is highly likely to marry outside the tribe, and the second virtually guaranteed to do so. This means a third generation American is almost definitely going to be 1/4 this 1/4 that thus rendering muh heritage more and more meaningless itself.

I mean, look at this woman. I thought growing up that she was probably part German or something. Or some sort of Northern European. So this is what I'm pretty sure is the fate of all gypsies in America is intermarriage and burgerdom. This is also likely to be the fate of Europeans on a long enough time scale if EU remains free and open however the difference is each EU country has centuries of cultural baggage and linguistic barriers that we do not. You can always move to France but you can never be a true Frenchman, just a mulatto of mixed French and other ancestry for several generations. Having one single language to dominate all the others also helped to absorb ever single people to set foot on this continet.
No. 32183
>Fairuza's mother, Cathryn Balk, has studied, performed, and taught traditional dance forms of many countries including Egypt, Turkey, Morocco, and Spain. Her father, Solomon Feldthouse, was one of the founding members of the 1960s psychedelic rock group Kaleidoscope, and is also a traveling folk musician. He was born in Pingree, Idaho and, between the ages of 6 and 10, lived in Turkey where he learned Greek, Turkish, Iraqi, and Iranian music. Balk has stated that her father is of Romani and Cherokee ancestry, and that her mother is of Irish and French descent.

Wouldn't you know? We have more in common genetically than I thought, although I'm neither Gypsy nor Cherokee.

Speaking of Gypsies, my father mentioned they would occasionally be seen in villages in Pakistan, although no one really talked about them. They'd work as circus performers and sideshowmen, but not much else was known about them.

Here's a recent article about them living in Lahore (my father's hometown):
No. 32216
Does this count as news?


The level of exploits now available for voice assistants is reaching the absurd. Since it's mostly rich people using this stuff here I'm somewhat considering a change of career path...
No. 32230
I was afraid to click tbh

googled a few secs...

>Die Mikrofone nehmen die Frequenzen der erfassten Töne auf und bewegen sich im Inneren entsprechend, was in elektrische Signale umgewandelt wird. Hierbei reagiert die Technik jedoch nicht nur auf Schallwellen, sondern auch auf Laserlicht.

Oh wow, the human brain considering something or not is really interesting to watch. What is to be found on your link, the necessary frequencies?
No. 32233
To this day I have no idea why people are stupid enough to install these things. Had I the money I would of course be doing this to create poltergeists that terrorize people in their own home. They should feel lucky that it was me warning them about their vulnerability, and not somebody with actual malicious intent. I hate computer technology enough as it is and the last thing I'd want is having it involved in my door lock or mechanical toaster. Everything mechanical is perfectly fine by me and I can actually fix it.
No. 32235
These fucking boomers I swear to god
You know the thing is, poltards are basically just boomers and their idiotic children/grandchildren. That is literally the reason vierkanal became so absolutely cancerous. It's basically the exact same retarded fat fucks sitting around watching Fox and listening to Rush Limbaugh and generally being a cancer to the earth.
No. 32239
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>What is to be found on your link, the necessary frequencies?
The link has a Q&A on light commands, as well as a link to their paper on the subject. They describe their set-up in detail. I don't know how "current drivers" work, but they basically run simple audio files though one of those, which then modulates the laser frequency to mimic voice commands. Interesting stuff.

You could use this technique to make online purchases. Imagine a series of cyber security books, "____ For Dummies" and "Complete Idiot's Guide To...", showing up at their door.
No. 32277 Kontra
For someone who pretends to hate /pol/ so much, all you do is bitch about them. Why is that article worth sharing? What point are you trying to make other than air your petty grievances for the umpteenth time?

For once, get off the internet.
No. 32282 Kontra
This pathological hatred of boomers is obviously just sublimated resentment towards your parents dude.
No. 32406
Hillary Clinton has been officially exonerated regarding her emails as of this week. Meanwhile

Trump has been convicted and ordered to pay fines on multiple cases of fraud including Trump "university" and a charity that solely operated as his own personal discretionary fund and was found not to have engaged in any charity work.
No. 32580
I’ve noticed a lot of suspicious accounts tweeting about the coup in Bolivia: created in November 2019, using stock photos as profile pictures, etc.
No. 32583
Probably US foreign policy both there and in Venezuela trying to install tinpot third world dictatorships and right wing death squads again. They failed pretty bad with Venezuela and now they're trying it with Bolivia. Remember I warned you about Elliot Abrams and John Bolton. Abrams is definitely going to Hell.
No. 32584
No. 32585
Why do people do this? Every time I see a "test" post I know it's 99% sure that person is ban evading.
No. 32587
Whenever I see a post from you, it is 99% sure a schizo post, containing some weird conspiracy theory.
The reason I posted a 'test'-bosting is quite easily to explain: Today there were some issue with EC. For some time it was not possible to post at all.
Just lurk more and post less, Amischizo.
No. 32589
Who the hell is you, you idiot? Judging by that post I'd say I was wrong. It's 100% certain you got banned for shitposting and now have to proxy.
No. 32592
t. Shitposter, who should be banned

Inb4: hurr idiot, moron, proxy etc durr
No. 32621
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I wonder if what he says here about news coverage in China is true.
No. 32631
As far as western first names for Asians go, Levon is pretty fucking cool. Beats the gorillions of Chinese Davids and Williams walking around out there.
No. 32633
Breaking new!

I think that kohlchan is down again.
No. 32637
No. 32667
it's down for good since the provider cancelled kohl.
thanks to pedo posting it seems.
No. 32668
what did they even think
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>A tiny ‘deer’ was feared extinct. Scientists just photographed it for the first time in a generation.
>“Given the considerable increase in hunting pressure that has occurred in Vietnam since the early 1990s, it was unclear whether the species still existed,”
>The rabbit-size chevrotain lives in a tropical forest-covered part of the Asian nation, is often targeted by poachers and is the first mammal on the [Global Wildlife Conservation's] list of 25 most-wanted lost species to be found.
>“To the scientific world this was a lost species, but local people had known about it,”


I'm not sure how to feel about this. Obviously it's good the species isn't extinct, and is getting attention to help it survive. But on the other hand, the only reason people thought is might be extinct in the first place was because they were too lazy to go and look for it. So it kind of feels like it's status as a lost species wasn't sincere, but simply conjecture by researchers who couldn't be bothered to talk to locals.
Well, it's a cool little animal. Have a video of him.
No. 32958
Very cute! 'Lost species' doesn't seem like a official term, at least can't find it on Wikipedia.

Did they mean possibly extinct?
No. 32961
Ah nevermind, it seems to be a term coined for a campaign:

No. 32965
Well it is the world’s smallest extant ungulate so perhaps we can forgive researchers for losing it.
No. 33001
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>Ah nevermind, it seems to be a term coined for a campaign:
I was looking into the term and just saw that, too:

>While there is no standard definition of what constitutes a “lost” species, the top 25 flagship species have not been seen since before 2007 and are listed in descending order of threat as critically endangered (possibly extinct), critically endangered, endangered, vulnerable or data deficient by the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species.


So "lost species" is sort of like a click-bait headline the organization uses, which is probably what rubbed me the wrong way when I read about the chevrotain. It sounds serious and catches the reader's attention(it did mine), but these are simply animals which are rarely seen, but not thought to be extinct.

>so perhaps we can forgive researchers for losing it.
Well now that they've found it, they better not lose it again. They're adorable, even if they do have fangs :D
No. 33057

tl;dr - AI can now generate a copy of your voice by merely listening to a recording of it for a few seconds

welcome to cyberpunk, bois
No. 33279
She did porn a few years ago.
No. 33282
Note that the chevrotain family includes three genera. The recent news concerns only one species within the genus Tragulus. Wiki excerpt:

Traditionally, only two species of mouse-deer in the genus Tragulus have been recognized: The relatively large T. napu and the small T. javanicus. Following a review in 2004, T. nigricans and T. versicolor were split from T. napu, and T. kanchil and T. williamsoni were split from T. javanicus.[4] With these changes, T. kanchil and T. napu are the most widespread species, while the remaining have far smaller distributions (though some uncertainty over the exact distribution limits of the various species in Indochina remain).[4]

Java mouse-deer (Tragulus javanicus)
Lesser mouse-deer (Tragulus kanchil)
Greater mouse-deer (Tragulus napu)
Philippine mouse-deer (Tragulus nigricans)
Vietnam mouse-deer (Tragulus versicolor)
Williamson's mouse-deer (Tragulus williamsoni)
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On Monday night, it was close to 10.30 pm when Arun and Ranjith left their residence at Ice House in Chennai along with three other men, on the instructions of a 45-year-old contractor named Dhandapani. The task given to them was to clean two water tanks and a septic tank in basement number 3 of the Express Avenue mall in Chennai.

The two brothers have been engaged as manual scavengers for close to five years by multiple contractors and to them, this was yet another task to supplement the family income. While their mother was employed as a sweeper in a government hospital, their father could not work due to ill-health.

"We belong to a Dalit family and have faced a childhood of deprivation. So, I left school in the 6th standard and my brother in the 10th standard. We began working immediately after we dropped out," says Ranjithkumar, his tone even but voice low. "I am an electrician by day and Arun fixed spare parts on cars. Manual scavenging is not a regular job for us. We do it because we need the money," he adds, looking away.

When the group of five - Arunkumar, Ranjithkumar, Yuvaraj, Ajithkumar and Sreenath - all from Ice House reached the venue, they first worked on the water tanks. It was close to 3 am when they finally approached the septic tank for cleaning.

And what ensued next, at the basement of this mall, was both illegal and inhumane.

"The contractor made us wear the safety mask, gloves and boots provided by Express Avenue and pose for a photo," says Ranjith. "After it was taken, he told us to take it all off, before going into the tank. He said it would be wasted if we used it. This was a regular practice," he says, and slowly anger creeps into his voice for the first time during the conversation.

According to Ranjith, the pictures are clicked as evidence to show that the contractor has complied with the law. But they don't want the safety gear to become dirty and therefore remove it before workers get into the pits.

Ranjith then climbed down a ladder and into the tank and began work. Half an hour into his task, suddenly a valve in the tank opened, and sewer water flooded into the container.

"It was a yellowish colour liquid and within seconds, it was up to my thigh," recalls Ranjith. "The fumes from it made me dizzy and before I could even call for help, I fainted. The last thing I heard was my brother shout 'Thambi, Thambi'," he adds.

Arun immediately jumped in to save his brother and their friend, 21-year-old Ajithkumar, followed. While Arun went right to the bottom of the tank and pushed his brother up, Ajithkumar pulled him up and away from noxious fumes emanating from the container. But even as Ranjith was safe, Arun had already collapsed after the rescue.

"I went back in to rescue him," says Ajithkumar. "But I myself felt dizzy because of the fumes and blanked out for five minutes. When I regained consciousness I just about managed to pull myself out," he laments.

Was the mall complicit?

For close to half an hour after he was rescued, Ranjith says his limbs were frozen and while he understood the frenzied activity around him, he could not move.

"Dhandapani called the mall's safety officials and told them what had happened. Instead of rescuing my brother immediately, they were squabbling over who will enter the tank," he says. "They wasted close to an hour arguing, till Dhandapani was forced to go in himself. If they had acted sooner, they could have saved my brother," he says, his voice breaking.

But by the time he was lifted out, Arun was dead.

As per the Prohibition of Employment as Manual Scavengers and their Rehabilitation Act, 2013, the practice of using human beings to clean septic tanks and sewers is illegal in India. But Ranjith and Ajithkumar tell TNM that they were unaware that manual scavenging was banned.

"We have been doing this for years now and nobody has told us. The Express Avenue officials knew we were going to clean the tank. Why didn't they at least tell us?" asks Ranjith. "In fact if they hadn't opened the valve for sewer water when I was inside, none of this would have happened," he points out.

The caste factor

Tamil Nadu already has the ignominy of having recorded the highest number of deaths due to manual scavenging in the country over the last five years. The death count in Tamil Nadu stood at 144 – more than double the number of casualties reported by Uttar Pradesh, the state with the second highest number of manual scavenging deaths.

D Samuel Velanganni, the Tamil Nadu State Convener of Safai Karamchari Andolan, an NGO that works in the domain of rehabilitation of manual scavengers, said that according to a small survey taken by the NGO, there are around 3,000 manual scavengers spread across just eight cities in eight districts in Tamil Nadu.

"And the numbers are unlikely to go down because the government is not giving the people the awareness required," he tells TNM. "Due to lack of programmes to spread the message, these men don't know about existing laws, that the work they are doing has been banned and that they are eligible for rehabilitation. In this year alone, 20 men have died while engaged in manual scavenging," he adds.

He further points to the strong caste-based segregation of labour in society, and the fact that almost all manual scavengers belong to Dalit communities. In fact, the five men who were employed to work in the mall on Monday, are all members of Scheduled Castes.

"It is because of the caste they belong to that the apathy towards them is even deeper," says Samuel.

Cases filed

The Anna Salai police have now filed cases against Dhandapani and unnamed safety officials of the mall under the Prohibition of Employment as Manual Scavengers and their Rehabilitation Act, 2013, Atrocities against SC/ST Act and section 304 (1) (Punishment for culpable homicide not amounting to murder).

Dhandapani has already been taken into custody by the police, but for Arun's family, this provides no solace. Even as TNM entered the hospital, a young woman was being half carried out by relatives to a vehicle.

"That is Arun's wife Sukanya," says Ranjith. "They were in love for four years and have been married for three. She is completely devastated and was sitting here, beating her chest and saying she will die too," he adds.

The family was taking her back home, to the couple's seven-month-old daughter Diksha.

"Arun was a teetotaller and such a hard-working man," says his friend, 25-year-old Hemanth, who used to be engaged in manual scavenging too. "He was working all these extra jobs to save money for his family. After his daughter was born, he had really been pushing himself for the additional income," he adds.

And how much was his life worth?

"Rs 600," says Ranjith. "That is what they promised us."

No. 33474
>"The contractor made us wear the safety mask, gloves and boots provided by Express Avenue and pose for a photo," says Ranjith. "After it was taken, he told us to take it all off, before going into the tank. He said it would be wasted if we used it. This was a regular practice," he says, and slowly anger creeps into his voice for the first time during the conversation.
Somehow this line I am beginning to understand what Kazakhstan said about third world mentality. Like what the fuck, they can't be bothered to actually let their men use the safety equipment and just have them pose with it so it looks like they're doing nothing wrong? But why even bother to take the picture at all then if the work itself is illegal?
No. 33502
It’s honestly pretty unbelievable that they’re still using humans to manually clear sludge and debris from septic tanks and open sewers. And yeah the behavior described in the story—that the contractor would go out of his way to falsify evidence of the workers having used personal protective equipment even though the work itself is illegal—is completely baffling.
No. 33503
Think of third worlders as living in 21st century with regards to imported technology, but in the victorian era ideologically. Exploding gas stoves, arsenic wallpaper, lead painted toys, cocaine laced tonics, "baby formula" made out of flour, and so on.

And there is no mechanism to force them to comply with laws either. They will create an appearance of compliance when someone higher up comes to check, but then carry on as always when they leave. In all of the job interviews / internships I've been to, not a single employer offered me anything resembling a contract or paperwork of any kind.
No. 33513
This is starting to make 40K society a lot more believable with them praying to the holy machine spirits and not letting any of their fellow "heathens" to fuck with the holy relic lest it make the machine spirit angry.
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No. 33521
why is this a concern? we're leaving (finally!) the iceage (indicated by both poles covered with, duh, ice)
maybe the chinese will re-engineer some dinosaurs for fun-riding through our soon-to-be-formed steamy swamp jungles.
No. 33526
We're on a much more delicate rock than you seem to realize. Just because life itself has survived doesnt mean we haven't had multiple cataclysmic catastrophes across the eons some of which wiped out the majority of complex life and we happen to be living in one of them with the only question being severity. You're being really excruciatingly naive here.

For one thing my bet's on a major pandemic happening in the next hundred years decimating an already famine afflicted world descending into chaos. The picture painted by DoD itself is not pretty. These are military men, not industrialists and politicians and retarded bydlo. They dont have time for nonsense. DoD is predicting unprecedented global catastrophes from climate change up to and including the total collapse of the defense capabilities of the United States and forming a cohesive society and nation state. This does not bode well for the rest of you either.

Speaking of catastrophic extinction events be it noted that the changes happening now track almost perfectly with some of the changes that have caused the worst extinction events in planetary history, only they're happening much faster.

Odds are that sadly it is going to be the oligarchs themselves to have their offspring survive while probably upwards of 90-95% of the rest of us die off in the next 200-500 years if we don't do anything drastic about it.

The great irony is I've come to realize that the resurgence of our most hated and mortal enemy may in the long term save us like a sort of cruel mercy of God's blessing: disease. If we should face a severe enough pandemic in the near future that will collapse global trade and decimate the population then odds are it can start grinding to a halt the very machinery causing such accelerated climate change rates to begin with. Of course, crashing the global economy to total collapse in the chaos of a plague that wipes out over a billion of us from disease alone won't be terribly pretty or fun either.
No. 33529
i won't debate your military. but to keep it short - humans (not necessarily the actual western mode of civilization) are resiliant.
so there might be some kind of plague/famine. it won't affect me and it won't affect you, because we're both too old to witness any REAL ramifications of a rising global temperature.
but to the survivors: they have after the cataclysm lots of free space to do what humans can do best and are built for: roaming around in smallish warbands/clans huntin' and gatherin' and breedin' lotsa babies.
No. 33533
Mainly I am goncerned about a scenario in which gigadeath occurs due to climate change related crop failures, unlivable wet bulb temperatures in South Asia, conflict over water rights, mass migration from the global south, etc.

t. burger who posted the sea ice graph
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I swear to Bog this whole paragraph couldve been written by an American boomer
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There are many countries I trust to handle the plague.
China is not one of them
No. 33648
>a sparsely populated autonomous region
>One patient is stable while the other is not deteriorating

no need to panic, they will just pump loads of antibiotics into them and they'll most likely survive
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This is an old story (2016) but so unbelievable I thought I would share it anyhow.


At 169 feet tall, Verrückt was the tallest waterslide in the world. Riders plummeted down the nearly vertical 17-story chute—taller than Niagara Falls—at speeds up to 70 miles per hour. German for “insane,” Verrückt was designed to challenge the laws of physics. Visitors flocked to Schlitterbahn Water Park in Kansas City, Kansas, to experience its thrill.

That is, until August 7, 2016, when the raft that 10-year-old Caleb Schwab was riding went airborne and hit a metal pole supporting a safety net, resulting in his decapitation and instant death.

Nathan Truesdell, a filmmaker from nearby Missouri, heard about the devastating incident on the news. “My first thought was that it must have been a freak accident—what a horrible, horrible story,” Truesdell told me. “But once I took a closer look, I started to realize how complicated this story really was, and how this could have happened to anyone who went down that slide.”

The story, it turned out, was one of gross negligence, lax state regulations, and the consequences of hubris. Truesdell’s chilling short documentary The Water Slide, premiering on The Atlantic today, uses news and promotional footage to depict the ill-conceived project and its tragic fallout.

In 2012, the Schlitterbahn co-owner Jeff Henry, together with the senior designer John Schooley, fast-tracked Verrückt’s construction to coincide with an appearance on a reality TV show about amusement parks. (They were also gunning for a Guinness World Record.) Although they had built rides before, neither Henry nor Schooley had a background in mechanical engineering. And according to state law, they didn’t need those credentials to deem their own ride safe—unlike in the neighboring state of Missouri, water parks in Kansas do not require inspections by a state agency.

As chance would have it, Schwab’s father was a Kansas state representative. On the day of Caleb’s accident, the Schwab family had been visiting the water park for Elected Official Day, an annual promotion from Schlitterbahn that offered free admission to Kansas elected officials and their families.

“There wasn't a lot of science or ride engineering involved in the testing and design,” Truesdell said. “They were sending sandbags down and basically hoping that they didn't fly off of the slide. The netting that ultimately ended up killing the child was added to prevent the rafts from flying off of the slide completely.”

In the film, Schooley speaks to a reporter after having tested the ride himself. “That was really exciting because we truly didn’t know whether we were going to survive it or not,” he says. “A ride might be scary, but you figure that they have it figured out. We didn’t know whether we had it figured out or not.”

Henry and Schooley were ultimately indicted on charges of aggravated battery, aggravated endangerment of a child, interference with law enforcement, and involuntary manslaughter. Henry faced a charge of second-degree murder. The state alleged that the two men had rushed forward with the ride’s construction without the technical expertise required to design a properly functioning waterslide, skipped “fundamental steps in the design process,” and relied “almost entirely on crude trial-and-error methods” for safety testing.

According to court documents, a team of experts who inspected the ride after Caleb's death found “physical evidence that indicated that other rafts had gone airborne and collided with the overhead hoops and netting before the fatality.” What’s more, on July 3, 2014—one week before the ride’s grand opening—an engineering firm that was hired to perform accelerometer tests on Verrückt’s rafts issued a damning report that “guaranteed that rafts would occasionally go airborne in a manner that could severely injure or kill the occupants.” Other documents cited evidence of dozens of Schlitterbahn customers who had been injured on the ride. Schlitterbahn allegedly buried or downplayed these reports.

In February, a judge dismissed the charges against Henry and Schooley. The water park is now closed, and the slide has been demolished.

“We are good at sending thoughts and prayers,” Truesdell quipped.
No. 33653 Kontra
No. 33657
You forget a key detail: China. For all we know there's dozens of infected already that the government isn't telling anyone about and the Chinese themselves don't trust their government one bit either. Judging by that China had not changed one bit since SARS.
No. 33669
Can you decapitate someone without instantly kill him?
No. 33676
Looking at the Wikipedia article, the kid was a son of some important legislator.
Makes you wonder if they would've shut down the place if not for the accidental involvement of a politician's family.
No. 33679
It was literally verrückt, wasn't it?
No. 33683
Experiments have shown that decapitated heads can live on up to some 20 seconds after decapitation. (Probably living trough unimaginable horror in their last moments.)
Also if you count the methode of decapitation as well, then if it's not done instantly, but rather slowly, Arabic beheading style, then it won't be an instant kill either, but rather a very painful killing methode.
No. 33685
The fact that it's a sparsely populated region should prevent the plague from speading.
No. 33688
Traveling at that speed and with that force it's likely he lost consciousness pretty much instantaneously.

The real amazing thing to me is the guys involved had charges dismissed. This is a red state. They do things differently there. A lot of things about red states are truly third world. It's likely that someone else would've died although he probably couldve kept it open until the second or third person died if they weren't connected to oligarchs and politicians, or would've been ordered to add more safety features with it finally being forced closed after a few more deaths.
No. 33690
The charges would have stuck if the prosecution had been a little less iq89. They presented inadmissible evidence and flushed their entire case down the toilet. It's less political and more the dark side of due process from what I've read.
No. 33698
IMO one of the funniest aspects of this saga is that when the creators were interviewed by local news prior to the opening of the ride, one of them remarked that none of the engineers they consulted could get it to work, but they (the creators) did. Presumably this means that the engineers told them it was a retarded idea but the dumbass hick creators wouldn’t take no for an answer despite having no background in mechanics or ride design.
No. 33699
This is my favorite remark from that whole affair
>“That was really exciting because we truly didn’t know whether we were going to survive it or not,” he says. “A ride might be scary, but you figure that they have it figured out. We didn’t know whether we had it figured out or not.”
No. 33703
Frankly it’s a shame they weren’t decapitated by their ride instead of the child.
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An inscrutable face stares at us from the deep past. This idol - in fact a cluster of idols - has been gazing precisely east-southeast from a crest on a sandstone hill since several centuries before the birth of Christ, even if modern man only chanced upon him in 1975.
The main stone sculpture visible today shows a man with widely spaced almond-shaped eyes and ocher-coloured pupils.
He has a massive nose with flared nostrils, wide open mouth, a bushy moustache and a beard. And yet all is not quite as it seems, for this sculpture, the most northerly of this genre in Asia, underwent an historic version of plastic surgery perhaps 1,500 years ago to give him a less Caucasian and more Asian appearance, according to experts.

Archeologist Yuri Grevtsov said: 'Analysis of the sculpture's micro-relief showed that the original image went through some improvements. The first 'edition' was made by knocking, charring and the polishing the lines. Most likely it was all made by one person who seemed to have a very strong hand and a good taste.'
'Finds of ancient tools, weapons and bronze mirrors in grottos surrounding the sculpture suggest this and other more weathered and fallen idols were hewn out of the sandstone as a place of worship between the second and fourth century BC.
'But in the early Middle Ages a 'less experienced sculptor' got to work on the idol and 'sharply delineated and narrowed the sculpture's asymmetric eyes. The nose bridge was flattered with several strikes. The nose contour was altered to form 'two deep diagonally converging grooves.
'The moustache and the beard were partially 'shaved'.'

So the original European look of the idol was changed to a more Asian countenance. Why would this happen?
'Judging by archeological finds found inside the grottos, this anthropomorphic idol was made during the Scythian time,' Yuri Grevtsov said. 'The first change came when the more European looking face was transformed to make it appear more Mongoloid was likely to have happened in the early Middle Ages with a shift of the population in the Angara River area,' he said.
In other words, incoming ethnic groups preferred the idol to be more akin to their own looks.
The third transformation must have happened with the arrival of Russian people and them introducing the locals to tobacco and pipes.
Another change in the idol came later: a conical hole 1.5 cm in diameter was drilled in the sculpture's mouth.

This transformation 'must have happened with the arrival of Russian people, introducing the locals to tobacco and pipes'.
The Russian conquest of Siberia reached this region - in modern day Krasnoyarsk - in the 17th century.
Senior researcher Grevtsov said the stone idol is the only one of its kind in the taiga so far north: the closest analogues would be 500 kilometres to the south in Khakassia.
Why, though, would the original face have distinctly European features - seen by some as Slavic - when modern-day native Siberian groups have a more Asian appearance?
The answer may be that the Scythian peoples - a large group of Iranian Eurasian nomads who held sway in many Siberian regions at this time - did indeed have this more European visage.
Reconstructions of faces from permafrost burials, for example in the Altai Mountains, shows this to be the case.
No. 33729
The funny thing is it actually does not even look that scary
You can tell there's a couple parts on the ride that could be dangerous though mostly because that boat thing is not fastened to anything. You can also see the hoops where the little boy must have hit his head after the thing went airborne. It reaches phenomenal speeds but it doesn't even look to me that terrifying compared to some other county fair rides that really look dangerous and like I'm actually taking my life into my hands.

Honestly the whole fun with those rides is not ever being 100% sure that the equipment won't break or the carnies know what they are doing and that the ride itself isn't 100% safe. I think no one likes to admit that and we have lots of safety regulations (well in most states anyway) but the whole entire fun of the ride really is because of not just a sense of simulated danger, but the sense that this contraption might actually be dangerous and you actually could be killed and injured and that's the thrill. Every year it feels like you hear how some kid died on a ride at some fair.

Yup sure enough
I didnt even have to hear about this story. I didn't know it existed. All I knew is I just had to type in something about a ride death and a year and I'd find some news story about someone probably a kid dying from one of these rides. Quite frankly no parent should really ever let their kids on these rides, probably not when the ones supposedly deemed "safe" for that height and age, but for those of us old enough to drink and smoke hey it's your life YOLO
No. 33730 Kontra
Personally when I look at the statues I can’t make out any distinguishable features of biogeographic ancestry but I’m no archaeologist.
No. 33746

scythians, lol. scythians were far more skilled craftsmen, and not really up in northern territory. seems like more russian pseudohistory. trying to ethnically diagnose stonework is grade-a stupid since peoples looks change, people migrate, sometimes its just an artistic style.
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Ford unveiled his first modern electric car, called the Mustang Mach E (after Tesla forbade them to use Model E name by court order).


200 to 300 miles range depending on pack sizes of 75.7 kWh and 98.8 kWh, entry-level price of $43,895, pre-incentive (that would be $7,500 in the US)
Premium and First Edition models will be available in late 2020, with all other models launching in early 2021. This is just a little bit after the upcoming Tesla Model Y, whit whom the Mustang E will compete in the first place.

No. 33784
A woman is suing a London NHS trust for not revealing her father had been diagnosed with Huntington's disease before she had her own child.

She only discovered he carried the gene for the degenerative, incurable brain disorder after her daughter was born.

The woman then found out she too carried the faulty gene, meaning her daughter has a 50% chance of having it.

The NHS said the case raised competing duty of care and duty of confidentiality issues.

The claimant is known as ABC in order to protect the identity of her daughter, who is now nine.

50:50 chance

The facts of the case are tragic. In 2007, ABC's father shot and killed her mother.

He was convicted of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility and detained under the Mental Health Act.

It was suspected that he might be suffering from Huntington's disease, a fatal neurological condition which progressively destroys brain cells.

Huntington's affects movement, cognition and typically causes altered behaviour and often aggression.

When his diagnosis was confirmed in 2009 by doctors at St George's NHS Trust, ABC's father made it clear he did not want his daughter informed. She had told him she was pregnant.

He told doctors he feared she might kill herself or have an abortion.

Four months after her daughter was born, ABC was accidentally informed about her father's condition.

She was tested and found that she had inherited the Huntington's gene, which means she will eventually develop the disease.

Her daughter has not been tested, but will have a 50:50 chance of inheriting it.

Serious harm

The woman alleges that St George's NHS Trust owed her a duty of care to tell her of her father's diagnosis, given that doctors there knew she was pregnant.

ABC says she would immediately have had a genetic test and would have terminated the pregnancy, rather than allowing her daughter to run the risk of inheriting the disease or having to look after a seriously ill parent.

At the time, ABC and her father were undergoing family therapy organised by the NHS, so she argues that there was an an obligation to protect her psychological or physical well-being.

This is a cornerstone of the doctor/patient relationship, but it is not absolute.

Disclosure of personal information, without the consent of a patient, may be justified to prevent exposing others to a risk of death or serious harm.

This case was first argued at the High Court in 2015 when a judge ruled that a full hearing should not go ahead.

The judgement said there was "no reasonably arguable duty of care" owed to ABC.

But in 2017, the Court of Appeal reversed that decision and said the case should go to trial.

If ABC wins the case, it would trigger a major shift in the rules governing patient confidentiality, and raise questions over the potential duty of care owed to family members following genetic testing.

Emily Jackson, a law professor at the London School of Economics, said: "If a patient doesn't want her doctor to tell her children about her terminal diagnosis, for example, or her HIV status, then it goes without saying that the doctor should respect the patient's confidence.

"The complicating factor with a genetic diagnosis is that it isn't just information about the individual patient, but it also reveals that his or her relatives are at risk.

"In such circumstances, and where the relative could act upon that information, should the doctor's duty be extended to the patient's close family members?"

A spokesperson for St George's Healthcare NHS Trust said: "This case raises complex and sensitive issues in respect of the competing interests between the duty of care and the duty of confidentiality.

"It will be for the court to adjudicate on those issues during the trial."

No. 33816
Why shit all over the Mustang name by using it on some blobby electric car?
No. 33840
I honestly thought the new statue looked almost Polynesian or South American.

Which come to think of it
No that's stupid. I was about to ask something about the land bridge but realized that was way too long ago.
No. 33844
They are planning to make Mustang a sub-brand for a whole line of future cars. Marketing department decision, I guess.
No. 33849
I don't see anything particularly wrong with it. Of course the real problem here is first having cars in general as opposed to better transport and secondly you need to charge the stupid things which means you're still ultimately burning coal.
No. 33905
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Two men have died after the vehicle they were in filled with scorching hot water when a hole opened up in a car park. They were trapped in the Lada Largus car and died almost instantly as a result of being sprayed with 75°C water.

A hot water pipe had burst under the car park where they were driving and their car fell into the sinkhole which opened up in Penza Russia. The local Ministry of Emergencies said: ‘A car fell as a result of the ground collapsing. Sadly people were killed.’ Emergency workers retrieved the car but nothing could be done to help the men

A journalist from Penza Vzglyad local news website said: ‘Another car drove over the same spot minutes before the accident. ‘The driver noticed ground beginning to steam – and quickly drove off. Then these two men came. ‘They parked – and the asphalt collapsed right under them. The accident is now being investigated by local authorities.

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SOMEWHERE NEAR MIĘDZYRZECZ IN WESTERN Poland, there is an abandoned Soviet nuclear installation. Patches of pine and spruce, which had been planted as camouflage, are still doing their job. Vegetation entirely envelopes the concrete entrance, which is blocked off but accessible to bats and determined, rule-breaking humans. On top of a ventilation pipe that juts out from the mostly underground facility, there is big, mound-like nest of wood ants. It is a perfectly normal place for wood ants to live. They feast on the sweet honeydew secreted by aphids dwelling in nearby pine trees, and soak up the rays of post-Soviet sun.

But within the bunker, in a small room at the bottom of that shaft, there was a second colony of ants. These ants had no sun, no warmth, no light, and no honeydew. So they survived on the flesh of their fellow ants. Their colony was the wretched result of individuals falling from the healthier colony above, and with no way to climb out of the bunker, they could never return. It feels like a mirror-horror that could have come straight out of the mind of Jordan Peele, except that instead of a commentary on race and class in America, it’s a testament to one population’s sheer will to survive. “It is a peculiar colony” says István Maák, a zoologist at the Polish Academy of Sciences in Warsaw. “They are doing the best they can, surrounded by dying.” This year, Maák had taken it upon himself to do something about it, and recently published the tale of a momentous rescue in the Journal of Hymenoptera Research.

The abandoned bunker was once known as Special Object 3003 Templewo, a military complex active from the late 1960s to 1992; it was abandoned right after the Soviet Union fell. Scattered throughout the forest like now-benign landmines, bunkers like this one were used to conceal the assembly and storage of both nuclear and conventional weapons, writes historian Jarosław Pałka in a 2018 paper in The Central European Journal of Social Sciences and Humanities. The core of the base comprised two underground magazines, and the whole thing, from certain angles, now looks like little more than a green mound bulging from the earth.

The ants were first discovered in 2013, during the first year of a campaign to monitor the health of bats known to frequent abandoned bunkers like these. They make great bat dens, with internal temperatures that hover around 44 degrees Fahrenheit in the dead of winter. Though the bunkers had been sealed, curious tourists and intrepid bat-lovers had made their way in, according to an earlier study in the Journal of Hymenoptera Research that first documented the existence of the colony, authored by Wojciech Czechowski, Maák’s colleague at the academy.

To understand the bizarre nature of this colony, one must understand the layout of the bunker. Somewhere inside its reinforced concrete walls, which are over three feet thick, there is a small, closet-like room, cryptically numbered 12. The aesthetic of its walls screams “abandoned Soviet nuclear bunker,” with peeling paint and swelling limewash. The floor, once terra-cotta, is now a pile of rubble and soil. In the ceiling is a hole that holds the ventilation pipe, which is approximately a foot wide and connects the chamber to the outside world, about 16 feet above. Ant Colony One, which rejoices in the light and imbibes sweet honeydew, lives right on top of the pipe’s opening. “These ants are mostly eating aphid [honeydew],” Maák says. But when an unlucky ant takes one wrong step, it can tumble down the perilous chute, where it becomes a member of Ant Colony Two. No light, no aphids, no escape. “These ants are eating corpses,” he says.

This is actually not an uncommon behavior for wood ants. The species is known to engage in battles among colonies, particularly in spring, when they extend their ranges in search of food. Maák calls this time of year the “wood ant wars.” After a battle, the victors feast on the bodies of the defeated. Down in the bunker there were no alternative sources of food—not enough bat guano or passing mites, for example—so instinct kicked in.

Ant Colony Two’s drive to survive resulted in an extraordinarily meticulous ant necropolis that lined the walls of the small room and spilled through the doorway. “They were organizing their corpses in waste piles, putting neatly in the corners, and transporting it away,” Maák says. There were approximately two million corpses, many of which displayed bores from bites and fret holes—signs that their contents had been consumed, he says.

Ant Colony Two seemed to have had some sense of its situation. “We have seen ants wandering quite far away from the bunker colony that couldn’t find a way out,” Maák says. “The hole was too far away.” The ants did not reproduce, but their numbers were sustained by their clumsy brethren above, which ensured that the population hovered at around a million since 2013 (compared with the much larger Ant Colony One, whose mound is two feet high and 10 feet wide). “They had no larvae and no queen,” he says. “But still they survived and kept their organization without any goal of life.” In 2015, the researchers dug into the second colony’s mound, directly below the shaft, to look for traces of pupae, but found nothing. When they returned 2016, the ants had repaired the mound.

Wood ants are remarkably resilient critters. For example, for the past 30 years, a colony has survived on Skeleton Islet, a barren rock of less than half an acre in the Tvärminne archipelago in southern Finland. Czechowski first established that colony in 1992 in hopes of identifying the most austere conditions that could support a population of wood ants. The insects exceeded his expectations, and subsist on the honeydew of aphids living on the island’s lone pine tree. When Czechowski published his study marking the discovery of the bunker ants in 2016, he cited the split colony as evidence of wood ants’ remarkable perseverance. But the general populace was less awed and more concerned. “Professor Czechowski got many letters saying how cruel it was to keep the ants down there,” Maák says. “People kept asking why we did not set them free.”

No. 33979
I don't really think that's too revelatory. The only interesting thing is because they're all coming from the same colony and so should be recognizing each other as the same. The phrasing makes it sound like there is a queen down there. Since there isn't a queen this is not actually a separate colony. There aren't two colonies, only one. It would be far more interesting if they had a queen down there producing more and so this became an actual survival strategy of them. Instead this is just part of one colony that can't escape.
No. 33984
This is acknowledged in the article. The notable thing is that the trapped ants maintained a degree of social organization:

“They had no larvae and no queen,” he says. “But still they survived and kept their organization without any goal of life.” In 2015, the researchers dug into the second colony’s mound, directly below the shaft, to look for traces of pupae, but found nothing. When they returned 2016, the ants had repaired the mound.


According to Maák, the most significant implication of this research is how wood ants will maintain colony organization in even the most dire circumstances, in total darkness with no food save each other. “They couldn’t predict that we would come in to save them, but they were still surviving and fighting for something,” Maák says. “And that is exciting.”
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I know it's not really relevant news to first worlders but
Every time something like this happens I smile, because it just happens so rarely. Apparently 8 judges in a row recused themselves on this one and they tried moving the trial and jury far far away to where they thought the defense could easily win this case and it was so egregious he still lost. I mean seriously they make it sound like these were judges presiding over the DuTroux affair case. I just wish they'd stop bringing up race and trying to make it into the central issue. I swear it's almost like a conspiracy designed to pit the population against each other so everyone is too distracted fighting each other rather than the wealthy elites and corrupt oligarchs sucking our blood dry.

It's not that race isn't a factor--it is--but the fact is cops in this country are completely out of control. The Constitution was explicitly supposed to protect use from that sort of behavior and frankly that's the whole purpose of the 2nd Amendment, which is to use it against cops and government officials if they go too far and IMHO they have gone way too far
I have no fear of gangs in my area but I definitely am afraid of getting shot by cops and no I'm white FYI which I again hate this being the thing people focus on. Pic related is literally what they use in police training. So any time some cop finally gets brought down for murder or rape it just brightens up my whole day a bit.

In other more important to the world news
So now apparently the coup against Bolivia's government has declared him to be a terrorist. Thoughts?
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>So now apparently the coup against Bolivia's government has declared him to be a terrorist. Thoughts?
Everything is terrorism according to Spain, as an example

The ants article was very interesting thx

No. 34114
Gypsies have blended just fine into the general American white mix, so the problem is clearly something to do with the Eastern European cultural and historical environment, and not some incorrigible aspect of gypsy genetics. 90% of gypsies can be incorrigible low-lifes and criminals, and I've been hearing gypsy horror stories from Balkanites and Slovaks for nearly a decade via old KC /int/, so I'd believe it. But they're still human beings, and their degeneracy is the result of processes far larger than any individual gypsy or you. People don't control what culture they're born into. How do you think you would have turned out if you were born into a gypsy family?

You have to be careful not to extend your general haughty disdain for most other human beings (most Ernsts do this) to genocidal hatred of an entire ethnic group. Arrogating to yourself the right to sentence them all to death just makes you an ass. Arrogance, however earned, needs to be balanced by empathy, otherwise you're just going to be a bitter lonely man your entire life, and a poor writer to boot. Even a famous asshole who was famous for being an asshole, like V.S. Naipaul, had a deep empathy for human beings in even the most wretched of circumstances, and this empathy was obvious in his work. He wouldn't have been recognized as the greatest living writer in the English language (up until his death a year ago) without it.

>Seriously though, how did the US manage it?
Same way we did it with Jews. We didn't have centuries/millennia of built up ethnic hatred on either side, just the general suspicion all humans have for foreigners, so there weren't any hard barriers to assimilation. Gypsies had it even better than Jews (assimilation, not capital-wise) because there weren't any biblical verses that helped preserve old world bigotries.

I don't see any easy solution for the European problem, because gypsies and non-gypsies act in ways that are perfectly designed to undermine intergroup trust (I'm sure there are countless public drunken rants every day that are identical in content to our Hungarian friend's diatribe, and we already know how eastern gypsies behave as a group). I think those Bulgarian fascists can only make things worse, if only because you know they will not initiate those programs with any sincere care for the wellbeing of gypsies. I'd say 2-3 generations of compulsory boarding school might do the trick, but any party willing to do that will be just as shit as the aforementioned Bulgarians, and IIRC that's actually similar to what the commie governments did that helped turn gypsies into the turbohyperbydlo that they are today.
No. 34115
The bloodsucking, idiotic aristocracy in charge of Latin America is 90% of the reason that the whole region is still a backwards-ass shithole, and if this spawns a Bolivian franchise of Shining Path I can't really blame them.

If Evo had actually let the Santa Cruz shitters go and make their own country, it would have turned out a lot better for the highlanders, even if they lost any claim to the oil and gas money. Bolivia is a country divided into two halves, one of which views itself as having a hereditary and natural right to rule over the other, and those people will never be satisfied as long as indios are in charge of the country.
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>"No More Hesitation Package"
What were they thinking?
It's like the US police force is turning into a parody of itself.
No. 34131
I'm not sure the point you're trying to make here or if it's the majority of the country should eat shit and be satisfied. He massively lifted them out of poverty. Most of South America is indeed a shithole because of that bloodsucking aristocratic class who want to run the country as their personal plantation.
No. 34134
Somewhat interested in this topic and I searched for the best urban area to live in if climate really gets fucked up and after some researches I have come up with Glagow, Scottland. A big enough urban area to not be bored to death and unless temperatures become insane it will still be liveable for a century.
No. 34142
I'm saying Evo was great, but the shitters from eastern Bolivia will never be satisfied with Evo's party in charge because they're racist and hate the indigenous majority of their country. This is like the post-Reconstruction rebellion of whites who couldn't handle black people not being a bunch of permanent submissive serfs.
No. 34180
If the gulf stream collapses you're going to be living in island Siberia
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I can just imagine a refugee swaggering off the boat with his PhD in English and then hitting the insanity Glaswegian. Reminds me of a Romanian trying to get her head around people calling her love, pet, chicken and duck when she was working as a waitress.

My understanding though is that Australia is humanities time capsule. Lots of open space that global warming would turn into grassland and fairly isolated from the rest of the world.
No. 34192
Nah straya is totally fucked more than most.
>chicken, duck

That's literally what it's called. You'd be absolutely amazed to see the kind of discussions and twisted logic around these sorts of things
I truly cannot understand the purpose for US cops at this point in the minds of these people. It's like how that guy who was specifically stationed at the Florida high school specifically as the usual kind of Republican solution to school shootings "we need more good guys with guns in schools" then hid like a coward and yet somehow all these people started chiming in about "that's not his job" "he shouldn't be expected to run into danger it's more of a his personal choice thing." Well then what the fuck am I even paying his salary through my taxes to have him stationed at that school to begin with? Honestly if you really wanted to make an argument why things like unions shouldn't exist police unions would be the best place to start. Frankly I think we could easily fire half the cops in this country and be better off for it.
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pic related are some of the jewels that got yesterday stolen from the green vault in dresden. journalists say it might be the biggest art robbery in germany ever. according to experts the missing jewels are "priceless", meanwhile tabloid BILD estimates "lost diamonds and jewels are worth billions".
No. 34309
Both are probably correct on some level. They are priceless pieces of art, but to the right private collection, the lot could fetch a boatload of bills.
No. 34312
The thing I don't get is how could you even fence things like that? I mean the crown jewels of a specific queen aren't exactly a non conspicuous item you can pretend is not stolen.
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I imagine they're stolen 'to order' as it were, they'll be going to some despotic Bond villain who strokes a pussycat on his solid gold super yacht in Monaco.

The thieves didn't touch anything else, it wasn't a pair of chancers doing a smash and grab, they very specifically went for one group of items, while neglecting all the other shiny, valuable things.
No. 34316
There is a similar problem with stolen art/paintings. Even if you manage to get away with the Mona Lisa, what can you even do with it? Hang it up as a personal trophy? Hardly worth the risk. With the jewels, I imagine they can remove the gems, and sell those. They won't be worth nearly as much, though.
No. 34317
The point of many of the sketchy private collections is that nobody else does get to see them. Its perverse, but they are not necessarily trying to flaunt their wealth with them but monopolise access to certain priceless items.
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I know culture war discussions are deeply frowned upon (which is why I don't engage in them here normally), but since I feel connected to this issue both on account of my ethnic background and the offending tweet that triggered this whole controversy came from a fellow Rhody, I'll weigh in.

I will tell you most restaurant offerings around here are mediocre to absolute shit. Genuinely good Indian food is nigh impossible to find in the Northeast outside Boston or New York City. The food either has the spicing watered down to cater to western palates or lacking the necessary ingredients required to prepare a genuinely tasty dish. To make good Indian food, you need meat with bones, whole spices, fresh herbs and so much more. I counted too many Indian joints that don't even bother to let their potatoes soak in the flavor of whatever sauce. Moreover, Americans typically prefer white meat which is why chicken dishes lack the full flavor of a bone-in dark meat dish. What's worse is that Pakistanis who open up Indian restaurants don't have the guts to serve beef for fear of offending Hindus, and the Pakistani community is too small to sustain an outright Pakistani restaurant; that is, one that serves beef and genuine Pakistani/Punjab dishes.
No. 34329
> Pakistani community is too small to sustain an outright Pakistani restaurant;
That's really not relevant though. I've been to a Mongolian restaurant before and tried Yak. It wasn't that good tbh but it was still there and I doubt we ever had more than a handful Mongolians in that town. I'm truly baffled by your remark. Why would you even think you need an immigrant community to eat the food? Chipotle and Taco Bell might be an unholy bastardization of Mexican food but it's still nationwide and non-Mexicans eat it all the time.

The only thing that's relevant to ethnic food ultimately is whether it's good or not. Don't blame your failing restaurant on a lack of immigrants. The only reason it factors in is because people won't want to eat there if black people are serving and preparing the Sushi and Chinese are serving and preparing the burritos so you actually do need immigrants to at least be involved in the restaurant. Like this one Thai place a bunch of the people there spoke English so poorly I don't even know how they got here but damn that food was good and we didn't have a lot of Thais.

People will eat where there's good food. Bougie white people in particular will go out and try lots of different things and if the food is good enough they'll stay. You just have to make it welcoming and nice enough to get them in the door and comfortable and the food good enough to be memorable. Make Pakistani variations. Or make a South/Southeast Asian restaurant like tons of places do mixing some Thai and Viet with your Indian/Pakistani food. And yes clearly the problem is if enough people have no clue what they're doing.

Also that guy is flatly wrong. Indian food is amazing. I'm not sure I can put it up there with the masterpieces that are Thai dishes but just about and definitely alongside Sushi. This weirdly reminds me another place I was at in D.C. had some pretty good African food, which was supposed to be eaten with bread and no utensils. That's why because it was like naan. Had some really good honey wine as a finisher too.
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God damn, outrage brigading is getting out of hand. If you feel racially attacked because someone doesn't like your national cuisine, then you need to harden the fuck up. It's not even phrasing because to me that reads like the typical facetious hyperbole that you see when people post on the internet. I mean seriously, for how long has 'British food' been a joke? I don't recall anybody ever getting genuinely offended by it.

Any functional person sees this as a simple two-stage situation.
>I don't like your country's food
No. 34334
>Functional person.
>Normie Americans on the internet.

Yeah, well.
Lets just say I'm not surprised.
No. 34336
Letting non-nerds onto the internet was the first mistake. AOL was the second. Phones was the final nail in the coffin.

On a related note it is interesting but not terribly actually being inside the 21st century dark ages. Most of what people do now is digital. Saddest most depressing thing I've seen is how many books get literally thrown in the trash at my local dump many years ago. I can't begin go imagine how many books have been destroyed.

I'm not even talking about just a solar flare. Knowledge has increased yet people know far less. It is the end stages of the wheel. Rampant immorality and people acting like completely self absorbed scum, highest amount of power ever in human history to accomplish things and it's all wasted kn celebrity gossip and shitposting in twitter. When the systems go down and things become really obsolete with no hard copies after several more decades of this you're going to see my terrible warnings come to fruition by the time you're an old man and the whole early 21st century is going to largely be a memory hole, but then again there's little of value to even bother recording. What I mourn is the sheer scale of destruction of things from before this time into the digital hate machine.
No. 34337
>Why would you even think you need an immigrant community to eat the food? Chipotle and Taco Bell might be an unholy bastardization of Mexican food but it's still nationwide and non-Mexicans eat it all the time.

>The only thing that's relevant to ethnic food ultimately is whether it's good or not. Don't blame your failing restaurant on a lack of immigrants. The only reason it factors in is because people won't want to eat there if black people are serving and preparing the Sushi and Chinese are serving and preparing the burritos so you actually do need immigrants to at least be involved in the restaurant. Like this one Thai place a bunch of the people there spoke English so poorly I don't even know how they got here but damn that food was good and we didn't have a lot of Thais.

>Also that guy is flatly wrong. Indian food is amazing. I'm not sure I can put it up there with the masterpieces that are Thai dishes but just about and definitely alongside Sushi. This weirdly reminds me another place I was at in D.C. had some pretty good African food, which was supposed to be eaten with bread and no utensils. That's why because it was like naan. Had some really good honey wine as a finisher too.

I've been to literally every Indian joint in RI and they're mediocre at best, which is why I sympathize with that man's frustration. I strongly disagree that Indian food is bad categorically (it obviously isn't), but I can identify with being less than impressed with what he's had, especially if his frame of reference is strictly within Southern New England where both of us live.

Places I've had where the Indian food is good to great: Boston, New York, Houston, Chicago, Kitchener

I never claimed you would need a large enough ethnic community for a given restaurant to thrive and even prosper. You get that all the time, especially when you're marketing to bourgeois Americans and their various sensibilities. What I am claiming is that westernized Indian food (particularly in the state I'm from) is a watered down amalgam of vastly disparate dishes from both the North and South (there's a huge difference) and designed to cater to the western sensibilities, and having eaten my share of food from that part of the world, I would think I have enough of a refined palate to know the ideal flavor of a particular dish. These restaurants are far from ideal.

Americans typically prefer boneless breast meat which isn't known to lend much flavor to a given dish. What's more is they also don't like whole spices floating in their dishes whereas Indians and Pakistanis expect them. Cardamom pods, whole slices of ginger and more make the dish complete. There are some joints in the Boston area who cook for Indians because the community is large enough to support such an enterprise and the local bourgeois Americans who are more willing to go outside their comfort zone help to sustain such places, but ultimately, such joints are by Indians for Indians.

There are also fundamental differences in cooking. For one, India is a literal subcontinent with a host of different cultures and customs. People from Hyderabad or Punjab cook quite different than people from Chennai (Madras) or anywhere in Kerala. A common issue I have is that places that try to offer both Southern and Northern cuisines usually do one half-right and royally fuck up the other. And some can't do either right. It's annoying when the tandoori chicken is dry (and sometimes served with limes instead of lemons) and the potatoes in the vindaloo taste like they were boiled in water then thrown in a sauce without the time needed for them to absorb the flavor.

Another thing I should address: when Pakistani and Indian communities are large enough, they go their separate ways and do not support each other. In the late '70s and '80s, my relatives from Canada would regularly patronize Sikh-owned stores and restaurants because they were the only people with the goods. Fast forward a couple decades later with Pakistanis coming over in greater numbers, my relatives would no longer buy from the Sikhs. Likewise, Hindus would rather by from other Hindus (and some are so particular, they only buy from Brahmins; my father worked with someone like this), and so on. Pakistanis being Muslims, they're allowed to eat beef but not pork. Some are particularly strict and prepare halal dishes. Hindus, on the other hand, aren't allowed to eat beef but they can eat pork depending on their varna. You can see between this and the history in that region why they divide when they have the numbers.
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Might be surprising considering what kinds of interests I show here, but I fit in with the typical 'nerd' crowd about as well a lion does in a herd of sheep. I was lucky to have my formative years in a store where half the customer base worked in a smelter. I don't think that specific demographic barring is the correct answer.

It's also not just an issue on the internet is the thing. People offend way too fucking easy in general. Can't have a scrap to sort your shit out before going back and buying beers for each other anymore. Nobody knows how to take a hit with dignity and chances are, they'll pull a knife on you or some shit. Same thing here. Nobody can handle a bit of shitstirring, so they turn it into racism and browbeat them as a gang. It's like bringing that knife to the fistfight, gutless fucks.
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Non-nerds are not aware of sites outside of Facebook, Instagram, you name it. Many people think of Facebook and Internet as separate entities, so you can ask one if he uses Internet, he may answer "no", but when you ask him if he uses Twitter, he may outright reply "yes".
>Saddest most depressing thing I've seen is how many books get literally thrown in the trash at my local dump many years ago

Some people think we are at the end of the eternal September. Though you don't need to be technical savvy to type in the URL in the browser, many people are not aware of it and use Google to look for, let's say, Yandex. So we are getting back to the situation before the eternal September, when you had to know the tech. It won't be the same as it was before because the Internet is not a wild area led by lunatics anymore but strictly controlled space by megacorps and governments. What I can offer is to sit back and relax while it degrades.

>People offend way too fucking easy in general.
Oi cunt :DDDDDD
>but I fit in with the typical 'nerd' crowd about as well a lion does in a herd of sheep
I am not sure anymore who are nerds, geeks and so on. Back in my days, these words sounded like a loser who has no life to anyone. Now there is a fuckton of "nerd" communities, but when it comes to the real thing, you see things which you could await from a stoopid n00b, but not from a nerd in the sense I am used to know.
We end up at the point where the stupid crowd considers in-joke occasional shitposting as a guide to follow, uses it exclusively because of 'look how funny and edgy I am', old sense gets lost, and many other consequences which lead to the ultimate death.
No. 34342
>Saddest most depressing thing I've seen is how many books get literally thrown in the trash at my local dump many years ago.
Don't find that depressing at all. Digital books are superior, so it's no wonder paper books are dying off, just like vellum scrolls, birch bark manuscripts and clay tablets did before. The only niche for paper books in the future that I can think of is collecting, but for that purpose the book must be a high quality hardcover (paperbacks are simply disgusting), with nice aesthetic fonts and maybe illustrations. Then again, collecting is not reading.
No. 34343
I remember how I found imageboards. You'd occasionally hear the name 4chan whispered on forums, and curious me typed the name in and discovered a new playground. Good times. Though the difficulty of doing so is really overstated. I've never been a tech whiz and I could figure it out back then.

>Oi cunt :DDDDDD
Funny thing here is that the new kid in the kitchen got introduced to me today, and my natural response was "oioi mate how's it goin'", and followed up his answer with a "yeah nah, fucken sick cunt". Translation: Hello, how are you? (...) That's good to hear.

Rate Australian English.
No. 34352
Digital books are inferior in every conceivable way
No. 34354
Nope. They take less space, they don't collect dust, they don't degrade over time, they are more convenient (you can select any fonts for them that you like, you have no need for bookmarks, it's much easier to search for a certain passage and you can even correct typos if there are any (dunno about you, but typos in books really irk me)) and they are much easier to get your hands onto. So the digital books are superior than paper ones in every way except one: they require some sort of device to read them. But in this day and age, when even vacuum cleaners have more computing power than supercomputers of yore, it's not really a problem.
No. 34355
Searchable text is a very nice feature. Yeah, you can find that shit with an index, but it's usually going to be faster to just type in a keyword and go straight to it. Linked bookmarks are also nice so that you can hop between sections without having to check the contents for page numbers. Plus they take up as much room as the object you're storing it on, meaning you can have a library of books taking up less space than a single hard copy. Digital is also cheaper and easier to distribute on a low budget, which is good if you're not a somebody who can make buck off of the physical market, especially if they make a fairly niche product, or even a hobby one. It's easier to give a pdf out for free than it is to sink money into printing it and then handing it out.

That's three metrics by which digital is superior and I'm sure there are others. Being a luddite and completely ignoring the utility of paper books are both pretty dumb positions tbh.
No. 34386
Half those things are negatives. Why would I not want a book shelf? Why would I not want to physically hold it? Why would I want to look at it on some godawful screen? Even the dust comment reminds me of how there's just that certain indescribable charm behind blowing dust off a book cover. The look and feel of really old worn pages. The nice typeset.

And perhaps most importantly no one can fucking remotely edit or erase it as party line or corporate property contract changes indicates
It's literally my fucking property and personal belongings so the ridiculous cancer that is the digital age won't affect them.
No. 34387
No. 34389
>all incidents inside school library
It's probably a student and possibly not even someone from Toronto. Also I am amazed at how awful that writing is Jesus.
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Aren't you amazed with how crappy the writing is?
No. 34395
>how awful the writing is
I think it's a symptom of the newspapers dieing out due to social media and generally online media.
I have seen once renowned and respected newspapers letting their articles degenerate to clickbait-tier shit with the worst imaginable writing. They just don't earn a lot anymore as they did but as the staff is still from the old times they don't really now how to deal with it. So what they do is either specifying and binding their consumers and readers or they do the most supid thing in publishing history: analyzing the social media clicks of their articles. I almost laughed of despair when I saw it the first time in an editor bureau, ridiculous.
It goes like that: "Hmmm rape has good ranks, facebook-boomer-tier ranting article on E-Scooters is a great triumph! The author is a genius, let's celebrate him in our company-own intranet as a role model for the others!"
Anyways newspapers seem to act as the retarded little brothers in todays media companies and heads of the companies don't care about them too much as they don't bring a lot of cash to the table.
No. 34409
I think it's an overarching problem endemic to this specific form of Capitalism at this point, like planned obsolescence. Nobody is bothering making anything of quality anymore because they're all too wrapped up in their own get rich quick schemes and that includes at the structural level of companies really not giving a shit what they do that harms themselves and everybody else so long as they can report big gains for the next quarter or two. The idea of buying up companies just to liquidate their assets and vulture Capitalists like Mitt Romney is a perfect example of that, or the very existence of for-profit prison institutions and the fact we have a very large thing here literally called "the prison industry" as opposed to being some kind of laughable hyperbolic Soviet propaganda piece. Same thing in journalism. Rather than actually sell papers because you're a respected institution known for quality they're succumbing to clickbait shit to attract the biggest rubes but the thing is it's like setting up a free crack pipe to get more bodies in the door. At the end of the day do you even really want those people as customers?
No. 34415
No. 34416
Holy fuck, it's pretty impressive to make something that seaworthy essentially out of scrap metal in a swamp, which is how they used to do it at least. Maybe they've upgraded since then.
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Haha apparently Corbyn leaked a report that BoJo the clown is negotiating with Trump to basically put the whole NHS on the block to privatization and exploitation by US health and medical corporations for settling some sort of trade negotiations with the US

>The UK government has been engaged in secret talks with the US over the role of the National Health Service in a post-Brexit trade deal, according to 451 pages of official documents released by the Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, who claimed they showed the NHS was "up for sale" in a post-Brexit trade deal with President Donald Trump.

>Speaking at a press conference on Wednesday, Corbyn handed out unredacted material showing that the Conservative government had discussed including the NHS in a post-Brexit trade deal with the US.

>"We have now got evidence that under Boris Johnson the NHS is on the table and will be up for sale," Corbyn said of the UK prime minister.

>"He tried to cover it up in a secret agenda and today it has been exposed."

The documents reveal six rounds of talks dating back to July 2017.

>The UK government is preparing to strike new free-trade deals once the UK leaves the European Union. A comprehensive trade deal with the US is one of the UK government's highest priorities.

>Corbyn said the documents revealed that the two sides had completed "initial discussions" about medicine patents being part of a post-Brexit free-trade agreement, which if agreed to could cause UK medicine prices to rise.

>"Longer patents mean only one thing — more expensive drugs," Corbyn said. "Lives will be put at risk as a result of this."

>As pictured below, one document released Wednesday records officials suggesting that "the impact of some patent issues raised on NHS access to generic drugs (i.e. cheaper drugs) will be a key consideration going forward."

>Drug prices in the US are substantially higher than in the UK, according to independent academic research.

>Johnson has repeatedly denied that the UK's free healthcare service would be on the table in trade negotiations with Trump.

>Corbyn on Wednesday, however, said the documents left Johnson's denials "in tatters."

>"These uncensored reports leave Boris Johnson's denials in tatters," he said. "This election is now a battle of survival for our NHS."

>A government source denied that the talks amounted to plans to sell off the NHS.

>"These were preliminary sessions, aimed at getting a clearer understanding of what each country's respective policies and arrangements are," the person said. "They should not be seen as anything more."

>The documents also reveal that US negotiators said they would support including a reference to climate change in a trade deal with the UK, as it is "sensitive" and a "lightning rod issue" in the US.

>Chlorinated-chicken fears
>The documents also reveal the two sides discussed relaxing UK rules forbidding the use of chlorine washes for poultry.

>The UK negotiators agreed that the US should "share their public lines on chlorine-washed chicken to help inform the media narrative around the issue."

>The UK government has denied that it will lower food standards after Brexit but has so far refused to state that food standards will form part of any deal with the US.

>Corbyn has warned that a post-Brexit trade deal with Trump would force the UK to accept US food standards, including regulations allowing set amounts of rodent hair, maggots, and mold in food products.

>US producers must adhere to a "Defect Levels Handbook" that describes the maximum number of foreign bodies that would be allowed in different types of foods before they enter the market.

>Producers in the US are allowed to include up to 30 insect fragments in a 100-gram jar of peanut butter as well as 11 rodent hairs in a 25-gram container of paprika, or 3 milligrams of mammalian excreta (typically rat or mouse excrement) per each pound of ginger.
No. 34485 Kontra
The line of particular note is this
>The UK negotiators agreed that the US should "share their public lines on chlorine-washed chicken to help inform the media narrative around the issue."
It means that they're already sold on the issue and now are asking the US about how to effectively use propaganda aka marketing to sway the British public to agreeing to it. Expect a lot of adds about healthy germ free US poultry throughout the UK in the coming months.
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A bill to ban abortion introduced in the Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.

This is the second time practising obstetricians and gynecologists have tried to tell the Ohio legislators that the idea is currently medically impossible.

The move comes amid a wave of increasingly severe anti-abortion bills introduced across much of the country as conservative Republican politicians seek to ban abortion and force a legal showdown on abortion with the supreme court.

Ohio’s move on ectopic pregnancies – where an embryo implants on the mother’s fallopian tube rather than her uterus rendering the pregnancy unviable – is one of the most extreme bills to date.

“I don’t believe I’m typing this again but, that’s impossible,” wrote Ohio obstetrician and gynecologist Dr David Hackney on Twitter. “We’ll all be going to jail,” he said.

No. 34515
Land of the free
No. 34516
Iran is an oppressive theocracy and must be contained :DDDD btw our state senators are Christian ISIS :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
No. 34519
>Don't have (unprotected benis in baginers) sex with someone you wouldn't also have a child with.

>El problemlos solvos!

Its street shitter/sand hole dweller tier retarded to ban abortion because "muh "christian" idiot values" but the only ones who shouldn't face consequences for being to retarded for birth control are the ones who get raped and pregnant from it or encounter some serious complications which would make the pregnancy itself already possibly lethal to both the child and the mother.
That's simply it and there can't be that many cases.

The majority of abortions are just idiots who aren't able to use one of the over 9000 ways of birth control.
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>Ohio state legislature requires doctors to “reimplant an ectopic pregnancy” into a woman’s uterus – a procedure that does not exist in medical science – or face charges of “abortion murder”.
Well, it's not like they "banned" abortion.
It's completely legal as long as after the abortion the doctor presses the greyed out "undo" button and puts the fetus back in to continue developing :DDDD
No. 34531
You're talking about the kind of people who literally believe you're evil and a murderer for not wanting to carry your artist's child to term. These people want rape babies and every single kind of genetic defect no matter how extreme or horrible to be carried to term.
No. 34539
>These people want rape babies and every single kind of genetic defect no matter how extreme or horrible to be carried to term.
This seems like a strawman to me, but I haven't read the article.
Personally, I think abortion is okay in cases of rape, threat to the mother, and in mental and physical genetic defects. Abortion is fundamentally a form of Eugenics. Eugenic pressure has been greatly reduced as a result of modern science, so any mechanism that society still has (in this case it is voluntary) to counter this effect is welcome. I am against abortion for arbitrary reasons though.
No. 34540
>Don't have (unprotected benis in baginers) sex with someone you wouldn't also have a child with.

Don't have sex with woman. Problem Solved!
No. 34542
I was saying that for the benefit of Europeans and particularly Eastern Europeans, not Canadians. You're right next to us. How could you possibly be unaware of this?
This essay is addressing those kinds of people in directly telling them how not to sound like such utter retards partly as a response to several instances of hardline pro-life Conaervatives famously giving idiotic responses about abortion in case of rape including saying it physically can't happen because "a woman's body has defenses against that sort of thing"
Although to their credit at least they're being morally consistent and not intellectually dishonest with themselves on that one issue although sadly a great many in that crowd end up being terribly inconsistent everywhere else.

This is what I thought at first because I misread it but that's not why it's stupid.
It's stupid because it's a medical complication where the developing embryo is outside the uterus. The fallopian tube is what runs from a woman's ovaries to her uterus. A human fetus cannot grow and survive outside the uterus.

Basically what these people are saying is they want to charge doctors with murder for not being able to perform a medically impossible procedure and transferring the embryo from site of implantation to her uterus rather than terminating the pregnancy because it can cause severe complications and kill the mother pretty easily if its allowed to grow there for awhile I guess. This should not be surprising because these people are completely anti-scientific retards who disdain knowledge generally so of course they're totally medically illiterate as well.

I feel like there's a good joke somewhere that Israelis have about the ultra-Orthodox demanding taxpayer money (that they don't pay) be used to perform a complicated medical procedure (that they don't believe in learning) to save them. Sadly I don't know a lot of Israeli jokes.
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>A HERO today ripped a 5ft narwhal tusk off a wall to fight off the London Bridge knife attacker as terror struck the heart of the capital.

>Director Amy Coop tweeted: "A guy who was with us at Fishmongers Hall took a 5’ narwhale tusk from the wall and went out to confront the attacker. You can see him standing over the man (with what looks like a white pole) in the video. We were trying to help victims inside but that man’s a hero".


Was the world always like this?

These documents were actually leaked ages ago and come from the days of Chequers. The British negotiators even said no and the US was essentially pissy because the future relationship with the EU would continue our current product standards regime.

Corbyn brought this story back up to bury the absolute car-crash of an interview he had with Andrew Neil.

>Muh chicken
There's literally nothing wrong with washing chicken before it arrives on market. The EU position reeks of protectionism tbh.

Am I right in assuming the trend is that when Republicans do things like this the public backlash is extreme? I can understand abortion debates in terms of stages of development but in 2019 surely it is full retard to do this.

>That's simply it and there can't be that many cases.

Or can there and where does one even draw the line of Asperger justification of when (if you accept the premise) it's okay to murder a babby?
No. 34552 Kontra
In my view, law and morality are unrelated topics that should be approached through different institutions.
Regarding abortion, I don't think there should be a law preventing people from doing it, even if it is immoral in some cases.

Law should be concerned with running a society in the most pragmatic sense possible, and morality can not be codified in any law. Abortion should be lawful simply because forbidding people from terminating a chemical process in their bodies implies that the government has authority over a citizen's body, which is unacceptable in all cases. I also think that it is illogical to prioritize the rights of someone who is not yet a citizen due to not being born, over the rights of an actual citizen (who pays taxes). And lastly, people shouldn't be judged for harming a "potential human", just like they shouldn't be judged for being a "potential murderer".

I do think that abortion can be immoral in a number of cases, but I do think that everyone is ultimately responsible for their own morality, and coercing people to act morally does not actually make them moral, and is also still coercion, which is immoral. Consequentialism is dumb and stupid btw
No. 34587
Dr Priyanka Reddy, a veterinary doctor from Shamshabad in Hyderabad was found dead with her body partially burnt under Chatanpalli bridge in Shadnagar on Thursday morning. She had worked as a doctor in Kolluru village.

The incident happened on Wednesday night. She was raped, smothered and then burnt by four men who are said to be hailing from Narayanpet.

Four people were detained by the Cyberabad police on Friday. They were identified as Mohammad Areef (driver), Jollu Naveen (cleaner), Chennakeshavulu (cleaner), Jollu Shiva (driver).

The police said that the accused who were consuming alcohol at Shamshabad toll plaza saw Priyanka parking her scooter and hatched the plan to rape her. And one of them (Jollu Naveen) punctured the rear wheel of the doctor's scooter which was parked at a place.

When the doctor returned to take her scooter at around 9.18 pm, she realised one of the tyres got punctured. The prime accused Areef then approached on the pretext of getting the scooter fixed. Another accused Jollu Shiva took her scooter, on the pretext of getting it repaired, and came back after some time and told her that all the repair shops were closed.

The police said that the accused then raped the girl who died because of accused had covered her mouth and nose while committing the crime. The accused then wrapped the dead body in a blanket and took it to Shadnagar and burnt the body.

No. 34613
But if the only difference between whether it is a citizen or not is which side of the womb it's on, is that a meaningful moral distinction? If productivity is the problem, then a newborn baby is more of a drain than it was as a fetus, because it requires more care than simply feeding and protecting the mother. If you are alright with infanticide, fine, but it can't be considered as any different from late-term abortions.

And if bodily autonomy is the issue, do you reject the idea that we can be bound by duties which overrule our rights? If you voluntarily conceive another human being, and it reaches the point of being a human being (a 7-month baby born prematurely is considered as much a citizen as me or you), how can you claim a right to destroy it as a result of bodily autonomy? You sacrificed that autonomy when you chose to have a child. A parent's life isn't fully their own.

The chief problem with modern theories of rights is the rejection of binding duties that can override rights. This is how libertarians object to any form of taxation - that by stealing from them, you are violating the social order. But their wealth can only be generated, or even exist as a concept, within the context of a wider society, and like all men they have binding ties to that society that require them to contribute to the common good, whether they like it or not. You can't truly go Galt unless you truly cut all binds with society - otherwise, your rights are limited by your duties.

Of course, if you focus only on duties to the exclusion of rights, you get communism. An ideal society is built on a balance of the two (leaning more heavily to protection of rights, but your doom is just more delayed than that of the communists if you forget about duties).
No. 34692
there is a lot of money in the art collector market. there are collectors, who often wish to remain anonymous, paying literally hundreds of millions € for single paintings at auctions, just to put one item into their personal collection. i think the main motive of these types is not extreme fandom of a certain artist or artwork though, but rather the possibility to store vast amounts of wealth/capital relatively secure from financial market volatility. this would explain why certain stereotypical "conservative" capitalist types can often be observed as being completely ignorant towards different forms of art or even towards art in general (dismissing a career in art as "no real purpose" hippie occupation) while at the same time the art market itself has always been an institution where wealthy patrons spent big amounts and big art fairs have always been events where billionaires meet other billionaires, celebrities and politicians etc.
so let's assume an anonymous, wealthy art collector hires a group of professional thieves to steal the crown jewels of some of the former hre's former highest nobility, which are owned by the state and are therefore not available for purchase at auctions, out of a public museum. the items in question are taxed "priceless" or "worth billions", hence a salary of say 250 million € or more would make all of the thieves (by now investigators have knowdledge of 4 directly partaking thieves and are suspecting one ore more security staff insiders involved) very rich and still leave the receiver of the stolen jewels with an incredible revenue.
i think there are good chances that the jewels are not gonna be broken up into pieces and sold separately, since a lot of their worth actually comes from being complete and flawless. so they will most likely end up in a secure treasure dungeon of a very wealthy anonymous art collector, next to other similar precious works of art ordinary proles will never see again or never saw before.

>if you focus only on duties to the exclusion of rights, you get communism
marx summed up the ideas of previous communists and defined communism himself as follows: each according to his needs, each according to his abilities. that is pretty much the opposite of what you seem to believe communism is all about and what the term communism suggests about it's meaning right away. you actually summed up conditions under fascism (or similar caste systems) for anyone not either being a powerful oligarch, high ranking government clerk or not belonging otherwise, e.g. dynastically, to the inner circle of the ruling caste. fascism derives it's meaning from fascis, which was a bundle of wooden rods with an axe. it was used by etruscian and roman rulers as a symbol of power, because the bodyguards of the rulers used them as a means to clear the way and separate ruler and nobles from the plebs during a parade. the axe symbolized the assumed privilege of the rulers and their close servants to directly deal out death penalty to offenders among the watching plebs.
No. 34695
To be fair, rights over life and death were handed out like candy in Rome. The head of every household had pretty far-reaching murder rights over anybody in his household, and for a long time, they were inviolate. Romans had some serious murderboners. Makes you wonder how the fug they ever became civilised tbh.
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2 months old puppy frozen for 18 000 years has been found in melting Siberian permafrost. Scientists still unsure if it's a wolf puppy or maybe an (archaic) dog puppy.

No. 34710
Gee I sure can't wait to see what kinds of fabulous microbes are going to thaw out with all of that. I mean on the plus side at least we do have antibiotics and none of them will have any resistances so no matter how defenseless we are against them, they are equally nakedly defenseless against our chemical weapons.

On the downside this does not apply to viruses and prions.
No. 34718
Seems like a polish cook prevented the london terrorist form cooking more people with a narwhal tusk. People should add it to the old kc meme "polish man does X"

>Polish man stops islamic terrorist with narwhal tusk
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A video of a polar bear walking with large black T-34 letters written all over its right side - name of the iconic Soviet tank - is going viral on the Russian web.
The video was uploaded to a WhatsApp group for Chukotka indigenous people, said Sergey Kavry, who posted the file to his social media.
It is not clear when the video was made or indeed where exactly it was filmed.
Behind the camera chatter shows that two men who filmed the polar bear have never came across anything like that.
‘Why is it so dirty?’ one of them asks as the recording begins.
‘A spotty bear?’ answers another, before realising there was writing on the predator.
We had to beep the rest of the recording due to the Russian expletives.


Can’t believe some dumbass got close enough to the bear to do this
No. 34757
The person most likely used a tranquilizer gun. At least he didn't kill the bear.
No. 34758
At least they didn't write "ХУЙ" on him.
No. 34768
I started laughing the second I read your headline. Why write T-34?
No. 34769
It would've been way less funny if they just simply wrote huy on it.
This is actually creative.

A bear is big and dangerous. Kind of like a tank.
No. 35217
No. 35222
...ok? What the hell is even the point of you posting the story? What the hell is even the point of the story itself

I think this is hands down the dumbest most pointless news item I've ever read in my life.

In other news Trump is about to fuck poor white people yet again
This is literally how I was planning to survive with moving because my job cut its hours for the holidays and possibly through to January which is dropping me well below 20 hours a week. Who does he even think needs that the most? Poor working people who get their hours cut. "Booming economy" my ass you fat retarded boomer. I'll have to choose between food or rent. Thanks Trump!
No. 35243
Cops in Miami shot and killed two armed robbers as well as their hostage (UPS driver) and an innocent bystander. It was Beslan school siege tier and it was on the Florida
No. 35246
11 officers fired shots into gridlocked traffic. I'm surprised only 2 innocent people died.

Robbery suspects, hostage and bystander killed after hijacking, dramatic police chase

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We have a serious problem with cops in this country. I cannot even imagine being such a complete fucking faggot to unironically own any blue line flag bullshit. They wish they could be an actual hero like the thin red line flags. Well some of them probably do. All the rest unironically are psychopaths, bullies, petty tyrants, and cowards.

It wasn't even the hotel hallway shooting or any of the numerous dog shootings that finally did it for me. It was--once again surprise, Florida--where the armed guard patrolling our young prisoners hid like a coward when Nikolas Cruz started opening fire. That was the moment where I truly wrote off our police force as a whole as worse than useless who should he disbanded and the Police Beneveolent Association and Fraternal Order of Police should be disbanded under RICO laws. It was then that I genuinely hated cops as a whole. That one pussy represents them the best. Their entire mentality is putting their own lives first and if it's someone who isnt even a threat and holding like a cellphone they'll gun him down by firing squad in the streets if he pisses them off or annoys them for some reason and if there's a genuine threat they hide like a coward.

This is really the gist of why we have so many police shooting innocent people in cold blood. It's because cops are fundamentally cowards at their core. Perhaps the most disturbing thing about it was the number of people who genuinely argued it wasnt his job. If it wasnt his job to stop a school shooter then WHY THE FUCK ARE WE PAYING THEM AND PUTTING ARMED MEN TO PATROL SCHOOLS.

I try not to talk politics but this makes me genuinely infuriated. Americans are an alien people to me at this point. They love tyranny and despise freedom. The nation as a whole has become a bunch of servile freedom hating cowardly scum herded like a bunch of other scum.

When Ben Franklin said that about people trading freedom for security and deserving and receiving neither he was proven right by time. Or Sam Adams:
>If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
I genuinely longer even consider these people my countrymen. They are far beneath any illegal Mexican immigrant to me. They are a hostile foreign nation existing in my own borders and it fills me with patriotic rage. I don't care if they were born here. The only thing giving them rights is our blessed Constitution otherwise I would want them all kicked out of my country and deported to reservations in Canada and Mexico. They can go LARP as a fascist freedom hating dictatorship there.
No. 35255
>Robbery suspects
"Victory achieved"
No. 35257
Police should have never had unions. If these fucks don't get prosecuted, the least that needs to happen is they never walk around with a badge and gun again.
No. 35277
American's give an entirely new meaning to the term, butter fingers.
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? I don't get this joke

Anyway this is a pretty big deal
If the oceans collapse it's going to directly and indirectly kill off countless land species up to and including an accelerated mass extinction event involve man as the atmospheric oxygen levels plummet. This is because something ridiculous like 50-70% of earth's breathable oxygen is generated by phytoplankton. So while we have that corrupt criminal Bolsonaro burning down the rainforests and doing an utterly absurd comedy routine where he blames his own crimes on Leonardon DiCaprio, the oxygen generated in and by oceans can also collapse. The ocean is already turning into a desert. I can't help but keep getting this really eerie feeling that we as civilians haven't even got a clue just how bad things actually are right now. It's even harder to know because the White House keeps censoring climate reports for some reason.

On an unrelated note I just found out at the pet store the other day that they lost power at some point. All throughout my area we keep losing power in spots all over the place and I started noticing it this summer. My town didn't lose power but the next one over did briefly apparently. I have no idea exactly why it keeps happening but the only thing more eerie than it is the fact I feel like I'm in Invasion of the Body Snatchers and everyone's just walking around like drones with nobody noticing anything at all, not the constant abnormal cuts in power all over the place, not the weather, not the noticeable loss of species, not anything. It's like they're all just these, well thoughtless NPCs glued to their TVs or iPhones or whatever. Or like I'm in They Live.
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I’ll be geeping an eye on you
Gommie :-DD
No. 35376
Anyone who owns, will ever own, or has ever operated a firearm should know the one most basic rule of shooting is always check behind your target. These stupid fucks. These are not difficult rules to follow or remember:
•Never barrel sweep or point your gun at anyone or anything you do not intend to shoot; that includes not looking down the barrel of your own firearm
•Always assume that the gun is loaded and ready to fire and treat it as such
•Always check downrange; always assume that anything behind the target or downrange from the target is something that will be shot
These chucklefucks should have their guns and badges confiscated. We have a bigger problem with cops than gangs at this point.
No. 35442
No. 35455
Iran. Persia refers to a specific region, not the entire country. The only reason it's used that way is cultural baggage from the Greeks.

Also, it's a wannabe fundie-ruled dictatorship messing with an actual fundie-ruled dictatorship (Supreme Leader has been in the chair for 30 years, it's a dictatorship). This isn't really a cause of jubilation tbh.
No. 35458
My country not getting railroaded into yet another trillion dollar war that kills hundreds of thousands of innocent people and displaces millions more into Europe for AIPAC and KSA is always cause for celebration. In fact I hope the Republic of Iran does something to fuck up the next act of aggression against them even harder. Even with the sleazy politicians working for AIPAC and Saudi money they're still not going to outright go in there and start bombing and invading them if they can't even stop their cyber attacks from being fucked up which would be the first strike before they start using airstrikes after committing some act of false flag terrorism.

So yes I am indeed celebrating this wonderful thing and you should too.
No. 35459
Nah. I'm not going to praise one dictatorial shithole because they're messing up the plans of another. It's a thing called integrity. I'll call both of them shitholes that deserve one another. Assholery is not a zero-sum equation. America being a dick doesn't make Iran less of a dick and worth supporting. I mean, the only real difference between them and the Saudis is what side of the America divide they're on. Both have religious law and religious police and a permanent head of state, with dodgy dealings throughout the region. If I don't like one then I don't like the other. Simple as that.
No. 35461 Kontra
Also, it's the Islamic Republic of Iran. It's not a nice old in-theory-secular republic like you try to phrase it as there. They don't use Islamic as an adjective neither, it's part of the singular name Islamic Republic. It's cargo-culting on the idea of a Republic as a modern state without actually wanting to acknowledge any kind of the enlightenment thought that underpins it.
No. 35575
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It's a collection of bios of famous Soviet politicians' offsrping living in the West, you can use google translate. Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Gorbachev, Suslov, their kids didn't immigrate to Kuba, China or North Korea to build socialism. Instead, they used the parents' privileges and wealth hoarded by their families to afford living in the West. It's utterly pathetic that millions of Russians continue to support Putin's brand of nationalism while his kids and his friends' kids receive education abroad and buy real estate there, even the kids of the Soviet officials weren't as two-faced and at least spent their lives with their parents in the USSR when these parents were alive. Russia is being robbed on live TV and Russians do nothing but cheer on their masters, the boyars exploiting their meek serfs to support lavish lifestyle.

These people are brutes who respect only raw power and authority, they won't hate you if you bash their heads in but they will absolutely despise you if you give in to them. No wonder that they loved the tsars, the commies and now they love Putin. The more time I spend observing the Russian politics, the more I hate Russian people and their docile behaviour
No. 35577 Kontra
Really not an important story at all but
That third world shithole can get fucked. They're basically trying to argue in possibly the thinnest screen of bullshit I've ever seen that if their sales on skinning gators and turning them into shoes and suitcases and selling meat is banned by one of the most powerful states in the Union that it's going to harm gators and the wetlands--by not allowing rednecks to go into the wetlands and kill a bunch of gators.

Christ I hate that state. LA is possibly the only state that manages to be even more of an assbackwards shithole than even Alabama or Mississippi. They fact they're kicking up a huge shitfit about Californians banning alligator products and then trying to make it sound like their complaint has anything to do with environmentalism is hilarious to me.
No. 35695
California is the entertainment capital of the planet and has a larger economy than the UK or France and is the 5th largest economy on the planet. Louisiana is by contrast the most corrupt state in the entire country
It is a filthy, debt riddled welfare queen of a corrupt poor shithole state that is literally worse than some actual third world countries. It is almost comical how corrupt that shithole is and every single possible thing you could list about California including homelessness, poverty, disease, and drug addiction, is far, far worse in Louisiana. Oh god you're not actually from that shithole are you?
No. 35697
I'm from neither state, but seeing you talk up California is cringeworthy, especially if you're not even from there. Seriously, fuck off and move there if you love it so much. Wouldn't cry if that entire state crashed into the ocean along with its awful residents.

And fuck Newsweek. Not going to click that link because nothing that site publishes remotely qualifies as credible, especially if they still have that retard Kurt Eichenwald writing for them.
No. 35701
>but seeing you talk up California is cringeworthy
The fuck are you even on about the only person being cringeworthy here is you dude. I said nothing "talking up" California. I was exclusively saying how much of a piece of worthless shit Lousiana is and for no reason tou got all butthurt about California. I do not care why you steal butthurt at California. The backwards third world shitholers in LA are trying to make some utterly retarded argument about them regulating commerce in their own state because it's one of the top two (maybe even number 1) richest state in the union and one of the most important economies globally which is why those swamp dwelling backwards troglodytic warts on the ballsack of America are whining about it. You're acting almost like you're either from there or own of it's almost equally inferior neighbor states. If you want to spazz out and start spamming links about how shit California is I can spam an entire wall of how much of a shithole Lousiana is with nothing at all as a redeeming feature of the place. Lousiana does however go to show that every French colony is a backwards third world shithole)))
>wondering why this fool is even butthurt at Newsweek and this guy Eichenwald
Ah and there it is

Perhaps this is more up to your speed bub here have shitty british tabloids
No. 35702
I'm not even from the south, you imbecile. You talk tons of shit and then cry when others throw it back at you. Even worse is your holier-than-thou attitude combined with your delusions of grandeur. You're the asshole who thinks you're the smartest guy in the room when you're little more than a preening midwit wit who can longpost. I'm taking you to task over your unjustified and completely misplaced smugness.

Wasn't even going to bring up the epilepsy shit, but since we're on the subject, Kurt Eichenwald is an idiot whose credibility has steadfastly come under question:

Perhaps the biggest controversy can be seen in his story regarding

For a far-left take on the subject, here's this:

In sum:
>The actual ethical issue was that as a "journalist," he paid sources for his stories. That's a cardinal ethical principle in journalism, and Eichenwald flagrantly violated it. Think of it as like the legal ethics principle that you can't pay witnesses to testify a particular way. If you do that, you lose your license forever, and you'll be lucky to avoid prison. If journalism actually had any ethics, Eichenwald's career would have been immediately terminated forever. Instead, this snake is still slithering around.
>Then, there's the specific issue of lying about seizures to try to cover his other lies. Even if you assume he's not lying about that, it would still mean he's a severely mentally ill person who probably still shouldn't be a journalist because he apparently can't remember anything, so his reporting is obviously going to be incompetent and inaccurate.
>If he ever does take the stand in this case, he should be cross examined vigorously about this whole child porn affair. Either his testimony is unreliable because he doesn't have a functioning memory, or it can't be trusted because he is a pathological liar.
>He can't even adhere to the most central ethical principle of journalism, and that's his actual job.
>I'm not sure he's a pedophile, but he definitely has connections to child pornographers, has given money for the production of child porn, and he definitely totally looks like a pedo.

>Lousiana does however go to show that every French colony is a backwards third world shithole

America wouldn't be a country without the French. Fuck you with a saguaro:
No. 35703 Kontra
*regarding Justin Berry
No. 35708 Kontra
Yeah I figured out pretty much immediately that I was dealing with that same retard who does nothing but posts retarded American kulturkampf bullshit in the news thread.
>For a far-left take on the subject
I don't give a fucking shit about any of that dude. I made a remark about Louisiana being a shithole state and you immediately flew off the handle and had a spastic fit about it, and then started ranting about some stupid shit completely and utterly unrelated to anything we were talking about so you could throw some shit at the wall about whatever thoroughly retarded culture warrior bs you wanted to spout off about. FYI this is not the first time I've posted about Louisiana being a corrupt shithole of a state either.
>America wouldn't be a country without the French
It was a joke you imbecile. Seriously what is your major mental malfunction? I'd ask what your mental illness is but we've got people who actually have those kinds of issues and manage to be great posters here so I can only conclude you also have a serious attitude problem.

P.S. nobody gives a shit about whatever stupid alt tard controversy you're on about. I was noting Louisiana because it is indeed a shithole that is often forgotten about how it's the worst state in the union on multiple metrics even worse than Alabama and Mississippi which are the usual whipping boys and because of environmentalism and pointing out how plainly retarded their argument was about their gator poaching having anything to do with environmentalism or, even more hilariously, trying to use the retard logic of "you need to let us hunt swamp chicken and sell you dead gators so we can protect the gators."

I don't know who Eichenwald is nor do I care. I grew up reading Newsweek and TIME in the house. The fact you decided to start throwing shitfits over Newsweek and then turn around and actually start posting shit from kiwifarms is some serious 89IQ moves my dude. What's next? I'm going to post a link to a NYT article and you're going to start bitching about how it's "fake news" and send me links to Stormfront and Breitbart because you have some issue with some random journalist?
No. 35716 Kontra
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It’s tragic, but is there a more British death than getting stabbed in front of fucking Greggs?
Had a good laugh while browsing through the mail’s headlines today.
No. 35758
You may not care about the culture wars, but the culture wars care about us. I've always been a Dixie respecter, so your disparaging comments struck me as obnoxious provinicialism endemic up here on the coast. If I recall, you're from fucking Utah. Apart from the pleasant desert scenery, what's so great about that entire region beyond being a perfect site for testing nuclear weapons or blowing money?

The only states in the South I dislike are Texas, Florida and Virginia, especially Virginia Beach. The rest have been nothing short of pleasant, especially Tennessee, my personal favorite. I've only visited Louisiana once, but for all of its flaws (and they are legion), they still produced some of our country's best Jazz and culinary creations.

Now onto the rest of your post.

>hurrrrrrrr stormfront
>hurrrrrrrr breibart

Strawmanning hard, I see. If I don't trust one source, then I certainly must uncritically accept the low information from another one, right?

There may be only a handful of journalists working today that I remotely respect. When institutions like Newsweek keep people like Eichenwald on their payroll, I get suspicious of anything they publish. With minor exception, journalists are a claque of careerist whores, half-educated back-slappers and propagandists for the oligarchical lizard people who are ruining civilization.

Consider this: there are now five PR people for every reporter in America. Reporters are an endangered species. Even the most ethical and well-intentioned PR people are supposed to put the happy face on the soap powder, but when they don't understand a technology, outright deception is inevitable. Modern "reporters" mostly regurgitate what the PR person tells them without any quality control. It doesn't take a genius to see how this filters down into the quality of their work on any given topic, and don't get me started on politics:

No one's arguing Kiwifarms is largely intended to be a fun site rather than a serious one (although they have uncovered some truly seedy shit from some of the internet's dingiest shitbirds), but if you're going to talk shit about that community, then specifically bring up what you dislike. As far as I'm concerned, that website is home to some of the finest citizen journalism the internet has seen, all done for the express purpose of mocking the willfully stupid decisions of morons online or basking in the idiosyncratic behavior of outspoken lunatics. It's the same spirit that fueled /b/'s fascination with Chris-Chan which continues to live in the spirit of imageboard users everywhere. Enjoying lolcows is apolitical in nature. Everyone that is not a screeching histrionic can enjoy it, regardless of creed or affiliation. Truly, if there is a path to world peace, it will involve the mutual appreciation and respect one may share with others also basking in the warm glow of a lolcow meltdown.

God bless Kiwifarms.

>Seriously what is your major mental malfunction? I'd ask what your mental illness is but we've got people who actually have those kinds of issues and manage to be great posters here so I can only conclude you also have a serious attitude problem.

Who are you, my therapist? Even if I was stark-raving mad, why would I tell you about my mental condition? As far as attitude problems go, you might have the shittiest attitude of anyone here by far. It isn't enough to merely disagree. You're effortlessly nasty and probably more than a bit sociopathic. Weren't you the guy who praised Joe Stack in the Today thread despite your longwinded talk about the inefficacy of mass shootings or low-level terrorism? Yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with you calling that guy a hero:
No. 35760 Kontra
Oh god I don't know I feel like dealing with this first thing in the morning after my coffee

>Weren't you the guy who praised Joe Stack in the Today thread despite your longwinded talk about the inefficacy of mass shootings or low-level terrorism? Yeah, there's absolutely nothing wrong with you calling that guy a hero:
I make fun of you partly because you only care about this dumb crap and are clearly the schizenu poster which I almost wonder is mental projection on your part due to your own obsessiveness and schizophrenia. This isn't even k*hl there's only a few of us here yet you still seem unable to distinguish between multiple posters. I don't even know who Joe Stacks is. I'm not even sure what conversation you're referring to regarding "inefficacy of low level terrorism." I'm sitting here with my coffee and realized part of your problem might actually be that you cannot recognize you're wrong or retarded about something so when more than one person says you're wrong and retarded or that they don't give a shit about whatever bs about feminists or whatever you're about to prattle on about you take it as a personal offense and are unable to think "wow, maybe multiple people genuinely don't care about my topic or think I'm wrong and retarded about something."

Why am I wasting my time with this...

>You may not care about the culture wars, but the culture wars care about us.
Just lol my dude. These things are a sideshow. Like absolutely fucking no one cares about some random youtube shitposter except a handful of cringey culturewars extremists and you'll talk about people and topics like they're the most important thing there is rather than realizing it's a niche topic to most people.
> I've always been a Dixie respecter, so your disparaging comments struck me as obnoxious provinicialism
Louisiana is a complete shithole of a state that is malfunctioning at multiple levels. You could at best argue it's like mocking a personan with a disability and thus in poor taste. You seem perfectly fine going off about how bad an actually important state is largely due to your own provincialism and culture warrior attitudes, which is funny because CA isn't even the worst about many of the things you mentioned or probably would take issue with. A state like NY for example is way worse on issues like taxes and gun control than CA for example.

Louisiana is a shithole and this is not the first time I've made fun of it, and it deserves being called a shithole because unlike any of the things you mentioned I'm talking about corruption. Corrupt people and institutions deserve being ridiculed.

>nuclear weapons
FYI Utah was never a main test site and it's completely irrelevant anyway because aboveground nuclear testing was ended decades ago.

>Texas, Florida and Virginia,
In other words, useful states that have things to be genuinely proud about. Well except for Florida.

>There may be only a handful of journalists working today that I remotely respect. When institutions like Newsweek keep people like Eichenwald on their payroll, I get suspicious of anything they publish. With minor exception, journalists are a claque of careerist whores, half-educated back-slappers and propagandists for the oligarchical lizard people who are ruining civilization.
It's not strawmanning if you unironically hate journalists and journalism as a whole and use kiwifarms as an unironic source for anything in a news thread. I remember you posting some of the cringiest moronic shit in the websites thread dedicated to your kulturkampf bs and you genuinely don't seem to be able to distinguish between a worthwhile and professional source and well kiwifarms, "transhawkdown" and whatever else. It isn't strawmanning when it's literally true.

That has nothing to do with journalism. PR and marketing is an inevitability under the sort of Capitalist we have. Like I said you don't even seem able to distinguish between sources. Opinions are not created equal. The opinion of some idiot on the street or youtube is not equivalent to that of an academic or scholar.

Case in point
>but if you're going to talk shit about that community, then specifically bring up what you dislike. As far as I'm concerned, that website is home to some of the finest citizen journalism the internet has seen, all done for the express purpose of mocking the willfully stupid decisions of morons online or basking in the idiosyncratic behavior of outspoken lunatics. It's the same spirit that fueled /b/'s fascination with Chris-Chan which continues to live in the spirit of imageboard users everywhere. Enjoying lolcows is apolitical in nature. Everyone that is not a screeching histrionic can enjoy it, regardless of creed or affiliation. Truly, if there is a path to world peace, it will involve the mutual appreciation and respect one may share with others also basking in the warm glow of a lolcow meltdown.
You are genuinely unable to distinguish between a bunch of idiots harassing people online and "basking in the warm glow of lolcow meltdown" and journalism. You actually put these two things in the same paragraph, and smoothly went from discussing one to discussing the other. Kiwifarms has nothing to do with journalism. Idiots on /b/ and /pol/ are not journalists. Dedicating a pathetic amount of your life to documenting CWC is not remotely the same thing as journalism. It does not surprise me that you would hold this opinion however.
No. 35766
>Oh god I don't know I feel like dealing with this first thing in the morning after my coffee
>Why am I wasting my time with this...
>I make fun of you partly because you only care about this dumb crap and are clearly the schizenu poster which I almost wonder is mental projection on your part due to your own obsessiveness and schizophrenia. This isn't even k*hl there's only a few of us here yet you still seem unable to distinguish between multiple posters.
>I don't even know who Joe Stacks is.
>I'm not even sure what conversation you're referring to regarding "inefficacy of low level terrorism." I'm sitting here with my coffee and realized part of your problem might actually be that you cannot recognize you're wrong or retarded about something so when more than one person says you're wrong and retarded or that they don't give a shit about whatever bs about feminists or whatever you're about to prattle on about you take it as a personal offense and are unable to think "wow, maybe multiple people genuinely don't care about my topic or think I'm wrong and retarded about something."

Maybe, just maybe, it's you who can't deal with someone with a different opinion from yours and a fundamentally different approach to life. Who's to say I'm not also having fun with our little back-and-forths? Nobody's making you reply but you. If you feel I'm beneath you, then do something else.

Joe Stack was the guy who flew his plane in the Austin IRS building in 2010, who presumably you called a "goddamn hero" despite his actions accomplishing nothing but the death of some low level worker at the office:

Until user IDs a la 420chan or city-targeted geolocation is imposed on this board, we'll never be able to truly tell who's who. All we can do is speculate based on posting style, choice of language and other vague clues. Considering your monothematic posting style coupled with your lexicon, it's easy to parse you out from the other posters.

For all your misplaced pride on your perceived adeptness at sniffing out certain posters, you've mixed me up with several other posters and talked about threads I never once posted in. Even in this thread, you mixed me up with several other posters. I never once posted in the websites thread, so I have no idea what you're going on about. Did you mean the blogs thread? All I did was respond to another poster there who wasn't even an American. You're also first to tell me about "transhawkdown" so there's another swing and a miss.

>A state like NY for example is way worse on issues like taxes and gun control than CA for example.

You're telling me something everyone in the Northeast already knows. NY is awful and refuses to contain itself from spilling over into its immediate neighbors culturally and politically. Still would rather live in NY rather than CA.

>Texas, Florida and Virginia,
>In other words, useful states that have things to be genuinely proud about. Well except for Florida.

Not going to say that Virginia doesn't have a great history because it does, but that Commomwealth is awful on account of its residents and its terrible culture. Seriously, the rudest drivers I've ever had the displeasure of dealing with. Then again, if you're from a place with some of the best drivers, you're going to judge other places much harder. It's also a place where Pat Robertson is happy to call home.

Texans are obnoxious, phony or obnoxious and phony. It's also topographically fugly.

We don't need to talk about Florida.

>It's not strawmanning if you unironically hate journalists and journalism as a whole and use kiwifarms as an unironic source for anything in a news thread. I remember you posting some of the cringiest moronic shit in the websites thread dedicated to your kulturkampf bs and you genuinely don't seem to be able to distinguish between a worthwhile and professional source and well kiwifarms, "transhawkdown" and whatever else. It isn't strawmanning when it's literally true.
>Like I said you don't even seem able to distinguish between sources. Opinions are not created equal. The opinion of some idiot on the street or youtube is not equivalent to that of an academic or scholar.
Another strawman. You're reading something into my post that isn't there beyond my contemptuous attitude towards journalists. It's very possible to have respect for academics and have contempt for journalists at the same time. They're not mutually exclusive positions as you seem to be implying. And, by the wall, all academics aren't created equal. Some have their careers build on fraud that takes another academic to take down, and some academics can get away with inserting bullshit into their work if they present just enough factual material to evade suspicion. And some have their careers ruined because they spent too much time resting on their laurels. Opinions from commoners may be typically inferior to the more learned, but academics and scholars are not beyond reproach, and frankly, there's a deep rot in the quality of today's intelligentsia:

>You are genuinely unable to distinguish between a bunch of idiots harassing people online and "basking in the warm glow of lolcow meltdown" and journalism. You actually put these two things in the same paragraph, and smoothly went from discussing one to discussing the other. Kiwifarms has nothing to do with journalism. Idiots on /b/ and /pol/ are not journalists. Dedicating a pathetic amount of your life to documenting CWC is not remotely the same thing as journalism. It does not surprise me that you would hold this opinion however.

Ah, the old "targeted harassment" canard. The days of CWC-style trolling from 2007-2010 have long since past and will never come back. As a whole, Kiwifarms discourages people from directly engaging the people they make fun of and instead just idly document and observe content from the various internet weirdos. Of course, if the lolcows choose to register an account over at Kiwifarms to respond to their trolls, that's on them. Trolling plans are outright banned over there and will immediately make you the target of the community if you keep pushing it. Perhaps "citizen journalism" was too much of a compliment because they're not in the same league as accredited journalists who have to account for a certain standard of ethics (that is, for those who want to practice journalism rather than pure shilling which is what most do anyway 'cause that's where the money's at), but for guys doing this shit in their spare time without pay, their open-source intelligence is pretty damn good. If you make a claim about a certain person without providing evidence or post stupid opinions, others will call you out and take you to task. The worst you can say about Kiwifarms is that the website is TMZ for lolcows.

Good work is good work, and if embarrassing information on a certain person of interest can be sourced from Kiwifarms, it speaks to the importance of open-source intelligence.
No. 35927
That fucking boomer passed it
I'm already struggling to make rent. My new plan is to sell drugs until I can get more hours. If I sell enough of my heart medication which is time release so I can go two days without taking it and take it on a third day that might help for me to have groceries money at least.
No. 35928 Kontra
>equates kiwifarms to journalism
You can't be taken seriously.
No. 35955 Kontra
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This is like an absurdist parody of reality

>US President Donald Trump ranted about wind energy in a speech to a conservative youth group, saying he had "studied it better than anybody."

>In a speech to the pro-Trump student organization Turning Point USA on Saturday, Trump turned to berating windmills after criticizing the Green New Deal — the proposal by left-leaning Democrats to address climate change and inequality in the US.

>Trump argued that windmills were "noisy" and "kill the birds," and he was critical of the fact that many were built outside the US as he repeated his long-standing distaste for the renewable-energy source.

>"I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. I've studied it better than anybody I know. It's very expensive. They're made in China and Germany mostly — very few made here, almost none," he said.

>Trump also criticized the manufacturing process of the wind turbines as creating "fumes":

>"But they're manufactured tremendous — if you're into this — tremendous fumes. Gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right? So the world is tiny compared to the universe. So tremendous, tremendous amount of fumes and everything. You talk about the carbon footprint — fumes are spewing into the air. Right? Spewing. Whether it's in China, Germany, it's going into the air. It's our air, their air, everything — right?"

>Though Trump called himself an "environmentalist" during the speech, he has repeatedly criticized renewable-energy forms and has taken actions considered harmful to the environment including taking the US out of the Paris climate agreement.

>On wind energy, Trump has previously falsely claimed that wind farms cause cancer — a theory rejected by scientists.

>He actively but unsuccessfully campaigned against the construction of a wind farm near his golf course in Scotland, even running TV ads about the topic.
Kontra because loosely related to US politics crap. I swear everybody here has just sort of tuned it all out.
No. 36411
I just realized the irony of posting this when the thread has that pic but yeah

The fucked up thing is he doesn't even have that power; only Congress does. But then again, our democracy has been eroded for decades now to the point whereas literally stated in a certain book noted in certain short heda conspiracy circles the power to make acts of war has been stripped from Congress--which itself has been denigrated, corrupted, and demeaned to the point of near irrelevance--and vested increasingly into just the president.

This means I am unsure of if he can even act on those threats. The other point of view is whether or not Iran actually will retaliate and take the bait. Honestly it just seems like all US attempts to topple Iran have been thwarted including by our spooks trying to foment rebellion or using sanctions and economic or legal means to collapse them, so now they are just openly baiting Iran into doing something stupid so they have the excuse for a full out war. I think they are actually at the point where they might just start bombing countries in open defiance of Congress and American will.

The flipside is that Iran is one of those uncommon countries which actually has the power to act indirectly and to be sneaky enough to do things in retaliation that aren't burnt attacks or anything that can be openly considered an act of war. So this will unfortunately be more interesting times to live in.
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Say it with me: Regime change
Nothing will happen. It'd be a PR disaster for the US, and the Iranians aren't so retarded that they'd start a conflict that would lead to the downfall of the theocracy.
No. 36442 Kontra
It's debatable how much power this completely unhinged administration has in starting yet another pointless war, and it has already proven itself the ultimate kcmod of Israel and Saudi Arabia. I just saw that utter retard, forget his name but Jewish boyish looking Conservative with the hot sister, blathering on about how evil Iran is and how it was justified and blah blah blah. Israel wants this badly and the WH is a total slave to the bidding of AIPAC. You'll notice the media never points out how all these conspirators with Trump are a certain chosen group of individuals. Just about every last one of them. Yet they never ever are willing to point out the Israeli connection.

So idk. He just assassinated a top government official of a foreign government with no warning or explanation to the American people. It also wouldnt surprise me if Trump actively starts a war to draw attention away from impeachment. The problem is you are expecting rational and intelligent behavior from the WH which you are not going to get. You are going to get an ameribear twitter shitposter boomer supreme doing this with all the power of 20 years of abusive expansion of executive privileges.
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>Jew with the hot sister
That’s Ben Shapiro lol
No. 36445
I gotta agree with my fellow American. Our elites are completely bought by various foreign governments, and Israel and Saudi Arabia own this administration.

I think Trump is willing to move against Saudi Arabia out of personal spite and whim, should they get on his bad side, but there is something VERY strong keeping him from going against Israel's wishes. People are too quick to discount conspiracy and blackmail, even though we just had the whole Epstein affair go public. I guarantee you that some powerful group of Israelis have Trump by the balls, and if that group includes Netanyahu in particular, there is a very strong incentive to start shit with Iran now, because Netanyahu is going to prison if he loses his spot as PM.
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Does anyone remember how five years ago we were spammed nonstop for months about how if you voted against this guy it would be a vote for World War 3? Do you remember how you were told that if anyone was going to start WWIII it would be this idiot? Kontra for steering into US politic bullshit but I'm sorry this just needed to be said.
No. 36451 Kontra
Nevermind Al Shabab isn't Iran affiliated.
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No. 36493
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Haha what the shit
Is that a black incel?

It doesnt totally belong here but I was watching a couple documentaries, one on Epstein and the other on Operation Infektion and Active Measures and saw this and I laughed the hardest I have in a long time
>a Russian is many things but a fluent speaker of English is not one of them
No. 36495 Kontra
Also while I am suspicious of it this does wildly confirm what I have thought this entire time, which is that SJWism, then poltards as the reaction to the problem before some "solution," is in fact an enemy weapon system--I simply did not believe it was coming from so low on the totem poll i.e. Russia, although I must admit how well it fits. What I could never figure out is what the point was of deploying that kind of enemy weapon system, what was very clearly defined to me as a neurological or mental weapon against a society. Who benefits? I always assumed it must be some Illuminati plot to further fracture and divide the lower classes of all nations. It does however fit that oddly shaped hole perfectly to be Russia. This does not answer the question however of why so many universities actively teach such utterly insipid bullshit. I can figure out how right wing politicians would be exploited or got to by Russians but I simply cannot imagine that Russians would have so thoroughly penetrated our academia.
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wtf is going on
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fug, it's real
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tfw I’m flying to Nashville on a Boeing tomorrow
No. 36635
Their Boeing was pretty new, I doubt that it has fallen on itself.
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Iran said that they will not give Flight data recorders to boeing.
I still think nothing major will happen but american army bases was bombed by Iran same time as this boeing destroyed. So, I at least hope US will invide Iran and finnaly end all this.
No. 36656
Trump said there be "sanction" so nothing will happen. Boring, but predictable.
No. 36658 Kontra
Trump says a lot of shit
No. 36665
Well this is interesting. On one hand it wouldnt surprise me if the Iranians shot it down. On the other, this wouldnt be the first time the American government murdered a bunch of people on civilian jet lines near Iranian airspace https://history.info/on-this-day/1988-americans-shoot-down-iranian-civilian-passenger-killing-290-people/
But then on the other, this was apparently a Beoing 737 after all, and it was a Ukrainian one no less and thus definitely not shot down by Russians, only evil Wecterners by Nazi Ukrainian terrorists themselves.

There's just so many angles.
No. 36666
>near Iranian airspace
u wot m8
The plane got down in the Iranian airspace after takeoff in Tehran.
No. 36716
US officials say they believe the Ukrainian International Airlines Boeing 737-800 was hit by a missile, CBS says.
Ukraine earlier said it was examining whether a missile strike brought down the aircraft - but Iran ruled this out.
The crash came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.
CBS News quoting US intelligence said a satellite detected infrared "blips" of two missile launches, followed by another blip of an explosion.
Meanwhile, Newsweek quoted a Pentagon and a senior US intelligence officials, as well as an Iraqi intelligence official as saying they believed the Ukrainian plane was hit by a Russian-made Tor missile.
US President Donald Trump on Thursday said "I have my suspicions" over the plane. "Somebody could have made a mistake," he said.

No. 36723
Insufficient proofs that it wasn't the US shooting down yet another plane like they did in the late 70s or whenever that was.
No. 36725
That’s kind of a wild assumption. However it does seem kind of odd that Iranian forces would mistake a civilian airliner taking off from Tehran for an American military aircraft that somehow materialized in the middle of the country.
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That's the point. It's an equally wild assumption that the US didn't do it when they already have and are already known for both doing so accidentally as well as creating false flag incidents every single time they need a phony pretext for invasion given those circumstances. Hence why I do not trust anything being said about it yet.
I'm not believing shit about this until I hear from a bunch of third parties. US blaming Iran and Iran denying it are both equally worthless statements to me.
No. 36760
I don't doubt the USA would do something like that but I don't think they have the capability to shoot down a plane flying over Tehran especially without anyone in Iran noticing.
No. 36763
True. Honestly the biggest detail in favor of Iran doing it to me is the fact that when it first happened their immediate response was to call it an accident rather than blame America. I still find it rather odd though they'd shoot down an airliner taking off from their own airport even on accident.
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You following that unknown virus thing? Already 20 mil. people blocked in cities in chinca in quarantine, public transportation stopped. One girl escaped quarantine to Paris, already case in saudi arabia
No. 37134
It wouldn't surprise me if it was worse than they let on, considering their response to the SARS outbreak was to deny it until the bodycount reached a point where they couldn't deny it any longer. That's spoopy because what they let on is already bad news.
No. 37137
>considering their response to the SARS outbreak was to deny it until the bodycount reached a point where they couldn't deny it any longer.
Hadn't considered that. I've been watching it, and this past week of daily headlines have been noting the global spread, but it hasn't seemed that deadly. Still, even if it isn't as deadly, it spreads incredibly easy-which makes me wonder how anyone ever stops a disease like that.

>Of all the alarming aspects of the rapidly spreading new virus out Wuhan, China, this is perhaps the most alarming: A single patient has infected 14 health care workers.
>That's what's called a "super spreader," and disease detectives are hot on that patient's trail. It's one element to stopping the spread of this coronavirus that's killed 17 people and infected more than 500 in five different countries

Disease detectives hunting down more information about 'super spreader' of Wuhan coronavirus
No. 37139
Every time I play Plague Inc. I always start my pandemic in either China or India. This of course is reported right after we find out China has been trying to contain bubonic plague.

Am I worried? Yes, yes I actually am. Very worried. The most not fucking reassuring thing ever I just heard yesterday was "and it's still mutating." So wtf if this thing suddenly hits the wrong population and becomes super virulent and way more lethal?

I personally don't think China is lying to us this time. It would bring great shamefur dispray upon them to do it again and they just closed down an entire city. My hunch has been theyve actually been serious about it this time.

The problem is the fucking thing has a two week incubation period on top of all that so after reading about it yesterday I assumed it had already gone global after hearing it reached 6 countries, and sure enough like 15 hours later I find out it has already been confirmed in 11 countries. In my estimation there's probably thousands upon thousands of cases in two dozen countries already. I am also not fucking amused that these people dodged the quarantine. Why the fuck should we be happy for you? Quarantines ARE A GOOD THING. BREACHING THEM IS NOT.

Seriously what if our run of spectacularly good luck with contagious has finally run out and this one actually mutates into something super deadly?
No. 37140
Time to get comfy with the happenings ernst

Full movie with shifted audio for those too lazy to torrent
No. 37142
This is something we need to figure out streaming for. I don't think anyone responded in the post I made in the community events thread, but we could do this on cytube rather easily as long as everyone installs a browser script that lets it work.
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The panic spreading hype about this virus is ridiculous once again. Most concerning is incompetent Chinese government responses to that thing but it's mostly a threat to the Chinese people and particular the elderly among them.

Anyway, some shady things might be going on about the origin of the virus:


The PDF contains estimated predicions for the virus spread in the Chinese population.


No. 37187
I really wish it was like in the olden days when you could just move out to the frontier with a new name and no social security number. I to this day have got no fucking idea what anybody even means about freedom in this country and strongly suspect they don't either.
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Uh oh

Can anyone speak Mandarin or whatever they're speaking like maybe you that britbong living out that way if you're not hungover enough to translate exactly what they're saying and whether or not this is like a hoax, prank, or some kind of psyop or if it's real or not? Because that actually was kind of a good point I heard earlier about if this was really just a few hundred cases and not even that fatal or severe except for the elderly and infirm then why is China locking down and entire city and crippling its economy? Just how bad is it in China right now, exactly? And come to think of it it does actually seem kind of strange to me if we've already got infected people in multiple other countries including the States if this is only confirmed infecting a few hundred people so far.

also ffs is this why China is a nonstop source of deadly pandemics throughout history?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW5eZ2dEPhI ths fuck is wrong with the Chinese eating habits
No. 37197 Kontra
Original video

>The PDF contains estimated predicions for the virus spread in the Chinese population.
From what I can gather officially it's supposed to only have a lethality rate of under 1% which is pretty extraordinarily good as far as seemingly dangerous infectious diseases though but if you're even remotely scientifically and medically literate tl;dr it's not good. That is one HIGHLY infectious disease.

>China running BSL4
>all hell breaks loose less than three years later right there
Honestly it wouldnt even surprise me at this point if it came from a biopreparat anthrax type scenario but it probably still would surprise me a lot more than China just being a notorious breeding ground for nurgle's filth.

I was watching something before too where some medical professional basically said this is the most worried he's been. I also got the distinct impression from watching some panels of health professionals that it's actually way worse a situation than we are being led to believe because they don't want to start a panic and think they can contain it.
No. 37211
Even if China is lying about the numbers of infected and dead, they've still quarantined +20 million people and postponed the lunar new year celebrations, so despite the "secrecy" they're at least taking it seriously enough. (Not to mention actually allocating extra medical staff to the area.)
Though I've read rumours that the new 1000 bed hospital called Huoshenshan they're building is actually going to be a mass grave and not a hospital building, but that just sounds like fear-mongering.
I'd like to proclaim that China has this under control, but if they don't and I do proclaim it, then I'm going to look really stupid in retrospect.
No. 37212
Just as I pretty much expected, already the death toll is up to 42 for the Wuhan virus and over 1,200 known infected including now French and Australians.

See the thing is, had this just been a few small clusters of illness even in a big city I simply would not be expecting to see so many cases in so many countries so fast without it already having reached the low thousands at this point.

True that as it may, I also still think it's an unprecedented and rather heartening thing that China can and will take such precautions, it's just that I am increasingly skeptical of exactly why they took such harsh and extreme action, particularly with a virus with such an allegedly low fatality rate so far, or at least officially. What we are talking about is under 1% and seemingly fluctuating more around 0.3% fatalities. You simply don't do that level of quarantine for that type of a thing. It's according to official numbers basically just the same as the seasonal flu, knocking off only a few old people and 2 year olds.

All of which is just increasingly making me think that it's a complete shitshow inside of China right now and moreover that this is also a version of China stronk particularly given the wildly shamefur dispray that brought great world dishonor upon China the last time.

Of course also all that being stated, I do actually have to add that them trying to control the panic and possible misinformation is one of the strongest things they need to do now, and that were I ever to actually commit a campaign of mass terrorism and nation destabilizing this sort of attack vector is exactly what I would do: unleash a mild and nondescript illness and then spread as much bullshit and misinformation as possible so as to sow panic, thus acting as yet another force multiplier on top of multiple other layers of force multiplier all of which would only propagate a further cascade effect on their nation state as system by system invariably fails as the strain of healthcare systems being maxed out past their surge capacity increasingly brings that society to a halt.

So in that regard, yeah, I have to agree with China for once, even if I do wish nothing but hardship upon their country.
No. 37213
Situation in China is bad allegedly
I can't imagine itll be long before his account gets found and those videos get pulled.
No. 37237
So is this like the Spanish Flu? Will it kill everyone and then some?
No. 37269
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I am feelin this guy so hard right now
Turn on closed captioning.

So from what I gathered supposedly they've actually hit up to 100,000 cases so far, have so many dead they're having trouble cremating and finding places for all the bodies, health services have been completely paralyzed, people are dropping in the streets and hospital hallways, and medical staff are being asked to do things like 3-4 rotations in a row and are completely losing their shit, and that the whole province is now suffering a severe lack of sanitary and hospital gear and staff. Just like I said earlier the thing with this is if it's just a smaller number of cases then why exactly would they need counts on things like 110,000 protective hospital gowns and so on? The numbers on things they are requesting is just ludicrous with the sole exceptions of face masks which is everybody and thermal sensors which is every single public transit area although as I type this right now it just occurred to me what if those things are more a useless thing that may not even actually sense heat but just be designed to maintain public order and a sense of safety? I actually think those probably at least work but I just realized things like this do happen https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/the-bomb-detectors-that-didnt-work-in-baghdad/
The sensors I have seen actually are real at least.

We just can't know yet. I've kept hearing these numbers thrown around like "90,000" and "1 will infect 14" which I don't think they mean to imply something ridiculous like an R₀ of 14 but the general gist of it seems to be that massive numbers of people are already infected and already there have been many dead and dying. I do however strongly suspect that some things are exaggerations, rumors, hoaxes, things meant specifically with a hidden agenda, and just literal Chinese whispers.

Nurse video with translation

People seem rather understandably angry and frustrated at their government, like unbelievably relatable young man in pics related. But also echoing what I said earlier I think of all the commentary I've seen so far the one YT comment "do not trust what the government says only see how it reacts" is the best take on the situation. Initiating a full lockdown like that particularly during the holidays is just not the kind of thing you would do in response to a disease that has under 1000 PTs and a morbidity of 0.3% unless they're not telling us something. Wuhan is a major metro area rivaling the size of London. There is no reason for an additional 1000 to have stretched them beyond their surge capacity to that extent with the sole exception that people are panicking and clogging the system, which is also probably happening.

Now that the official version of events is that there are now nearly 2000 infected because they are just getting better at testing for it, with 56 dead. Keep in mind how quickly we just went from 600/21 to that number. The other thing I heard is that the PRC officials had been trying to hide officially how bad it is by doing things like recording deaths as pneumonia or heart attack, and listing PTs as "pneumonia" or other illness rather than having this virus, which in all fairness is likely further compounding the misinformation and distrust because any intake doctor is likely to jot down how PT is presenting without coming officially to a conclusion later, which I'm sure instantly will be regarded by some people only as further evidence of a cover up. But even still, the massive response to it and all the other factors have indicated to me that as of 1/22-24 there were at minimum 10,000 sick people and a fatality rate of no less than 1% with a far greater likelihood of it being 3-5% imhBSo. SARS actually had 10% however everyone including Western health professionals seemed to have been saying that it's not as bad as SARS though what they are basing that on I don't know. But also like I said earlier the real problems gonna be if this thing mutates into a deadlier form, which it very well can do; likewise, it could just as easily mutate into a lesser form of itself which ironically is what tends to aid in survivability of viruses and bacteria by remaining untreated/detected and not killing the host.

The other thing though is that some people including allegedly Chinese hospital staff are saying that a) it has indeed mutated, and b) that it is infectious during the incubation period, which is a MASSIVE problem. Actually the worst is a prodromal phase of an infectious disease being protracted and actively contagious which is exactly how it's going to be spread around damn near everywhere. But like I said, it just makes absolutely no sense that China would take those measures for so few cases and with such a low fatality rate, and that we would be seeing it jump to so many other countries so quickly with so few cases. I'm not sure if it's 90k but personally I'm inclined to believe that the illness is way more severe and that you can add at least a decimal point to whatever PRC has been saying particularly in number of cases.

As for point of origin, best I can gather is it may have been endemic to a snake population until the wrong snake met the wrong bat at what's been called a fish market, which is probably misleading because there's very few diseases that make the jump from fish to humans afaik other than a form of tuberculosis, which itself would make this disease rather unusual to be coming from a cold blooded animal...I think.
No. 37270 Kontra
Oh and sorry rambling,
tl;dr no perhaps not.

But that being stated, while the conditions are likely at least ten times worse than what PRC tells us, the real risk isn't what is happening but rather what could happen which is what epidemiologists are so deeply concerned about. Atm, no, it's not the Spanish flu, but there's already potential for it to turn into something worse than the Spanish flu which is part of why it's in all our interests for the situation to be contained as rapidly as possible.
No. 37272 Kontra
This guy also is saying similar things although tbh it's not entirely worth the watch unless you're doing chores like I was but it just gives a lot of background on why things are as they are in China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5XkhUKMDM
You may know that for the one picture of his wife that circulated on KC a lot before the site was killed
No. 37278
>why exactly would they need counts on things like 110,000 protective hospital gowns and so on?
The problem isn't that they need 110,000 protective suits (a day, if I recall correctly), but rather that they said that they can only produce 30,000 a day. Roughly a quarter of what's needed.

I don't understand why people give a shit if the CCP is reporting the correct numbers or not.
They quarantined the province either way, so why worry?
Do we really need worldwide mass hysteria over this instead of staying calm and level-headed?

>As for point of origin, best I can gather is it may have been endemic to a snake population until the wrong snake met the wrong bat at what's been called a fish market
Sounds like the beginning of a bad Russian joke
Fish and bat walk into fish-market...
It's apparently 95% the same as the bat-virus, so it jumped the shark at some exotic restaurant at the market, probably.
No. 37280
>They quarantined the province either way, so why worry?
Because the quarantine isn't going to hold. Already there's dozens of cases in Beijing and the person was diagnosed in America. The fact China is even taking such drastic action is indicative of how not good things really are. At a minimum we're probably headed into an economic downturn as China struggles to maintain control.
No. 37294
>They quarantined the province either way, so why worry?
How exactly do you quarantine an entire province of 60 million people, with a border longer than that of most European countries? Maybe the CPC could do it if they had a month's forewarning. Maybe. But China actually has relatively limited state capacity for how fucking huge the country is, and Xi Jinping can't wave his hand and magically cut off all travel in and out of Hubei. And why does it matter anyway, when the virus has already spread to cities all over China?

AFAIK the cases outside of China are still relatively limited, and mostly in rich countries that have enough capacity to isolate and quarantine the limited cases that pop up. But apparently you can spread the disease without ever even showing symptoms, so unless you cut off literally all travel with China and any other country that can't contain it, it'll get through eventually. And even that might not be enough. What if a Swede visits Thailand, gets infected without symptoms, and then visits your country - even for just a 2-hour layover, without ever leaving the airport? That could be enough to start the chain of transmission.

It's important to remain calm, but the appropriate response is to panic calmly. We should all be preparing for the worst, because there is a very real chance that we see a rerun of the 1918 flu pandemic. Medical response is better in many countries today, but the world is much, much better connected. Thankfully for us, I don't recall seeing anything about this infection disproportionately killing the young and healthy (like the Spanish Flu did), but a pandemic like this could easily fell a few of your older or more sickly relatives.

I'm convincing my parents to stockpile at least a month's worth of beans and rice, so that we can just go full NEET if the disease spreads here.
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I know that virus stuff is generaly overhyped but at least it remain as longer theme then this "Iran vs. USA" stuff that lasted like 2 days

I kind of slightly worried about my orders from ali express tho X--DDD
No. 37302
Nah, it's already dying down quite a bit. Judging by the top reads on Wikipedia for example, the death of that American basketball player interests people more.
It's laughable. People tell me
>2020 has been so bad so far
>Australia is on fire
>WW3 almost happened
>The Coronavirus is here
>And Kobe Bryant is dead

People just can't concentrate on one thing for long enough. (And even when people bring up the virus, they know jack shit about it. They do no research at all.)
No. 37303
Why do you think people's opinion matters? Of course English-speaking bydlo care more about a basketball star than something that is 99% contained to China so far.

We know relatively little about this virus. But we know enough that it could potentially very very bad. It's irrational not to plan for tail risks.
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Over 4500 cases and 106 deaths as of Tuesday morning so far
There's probably no stopping it now, especially if people are infectious without showing symptoms.
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>slightly worried about my orders from ali express tho X--DDD

Globaled freedom :DDDD

>People just can't concentrate on one thing for long enough.

Media works with attention, it's a market logic more or less and most people follow what is presented to them and forget fast because of all the info only slightly true so, people will get reminded of things at times again. That's what you get for engaging in day-to-day politics. The info rates we have today are huge and the process is further accelerated thanks to computer technology.
But tbh, back then people were concerned about newspapers and the cursoriness and speed of info digestion that came with them.

t. most news only reach out to me as headlines
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The WHO's press conference said that "the peak of the virus happens when it happens".
The People's Daily says it's in 7-10 days.
The Chinese press seems really optimistic. Stories of people recovering, solidarity and hard work are published constantly.

Pic related was especially uncanny to see as an Eastern European. It's like stepping into a parallel dimension.
No. 37353
I didn't know Hungarians considered themselves Eastern European. I always thought you guys were central and/or Western.

From what I've been able to gather the politburo has deemed the response so far to be shamefur and has sacked various officials while now kicking a censorship and narrative control campaign into overdrive. This is probably partly because they spent so much money and effort locking down Hubei only to have tons of stuff leaked to Western media of nurses and doctors crying and losing their shit. I think it's made the Chinese government look supremely weak, incompetent, and not in control at this point so the CCP seems to be taking the Happiness is Mandatory approach of shoving sunshine up everyone's ass.
No. 37359
Eastern European as in Ex-Warsaw Pact.
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>less than 3% mortality rate (allegedly)
No. 37424
Apparently some already existing antivirals are effective against the coronavirus, but it's from the People's Daily, so who knows.


>BEIJING, Jan. 30 (Xinhua) -- Chinese researchers have found three existing drugs with fairly good inhibitory effects on the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) at the cellular level, a local newspaper has reported.
>The three drugs are Remdesivir, Chloroquine and Ritonavir. They are now under relevant procedures to gain approval for clinical use, said Hubei Daily on Wednesday.
>The discovery was jointly made by researchers from the Academy of Military Medical Sciences and the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) under the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS).
>Previously, researchers from the Shanghai Institute of Materia Medica under the CAS and ShanghaiTech University jointly selected 30 existing drug candidates, biologically active natural products and traditional Chinese medicines which may have therapeutic effects on the novel coronavirus.
>The candidates included 12 anti-HIV drugs like Indinavir, Saquinavir, Lopinavir and Carfilzomib, two anti-respiratory syncytial virus drugs, an anti-schizophrenia drug, an immunosuppressant, as well as traditional Chinese medicines including Polygonum cuspidatum.
No. 37426
Nevermind, it looks like the "inserts" are so small that they show high similarity or identity with all kinds of shit using BLAST.
No. 37427 Kontra
Also the authors didn't even report E values
No. 37430
It's much higher. Those who die today for such in December.

Patients are symptom-free for 2-14 days, then they get the usual cold-symptoms for a few days, then they get pneumonia and die. Pneumonia is slow. It takes weeks to develop, it takes weeks to get better and it takes weeks to die.
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So virus now in russia. My city have regullary chienese tourists. Should I hide in vault already?
No. 37440
Ffs russia this is not 4kanker or sosach or wherever you're used to posting
No. 37441 Kontra
On FidoNet. Ha ha.

What's difference in pic if it actually pretty well describes when another "hype real world" stuff happens?
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I do not want the exact same retards who utterly ruined and literally destroyed multiple of my internet homelands following me here or thinking they can feel comfortable or accepted here and thus ruining my last homeland here as well. That's why.
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Oh yes from all people it's me destroying EC, not political thread or mentally challenged from yaultilla or yalta or how this finland shitposting board called.
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It feels like every single hour this thing just gets worse and worse


I'm kind of getting the impression now that it is not, and cannot, be contained.
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I give you some numbers (per year):
500 million get sick
Up to 1.4 billion may carry the virus
650000 die due to the symptoms

Regular every year influenza
In the most apocalyptic scenario, 6.5 million people could die, but to be honest, that doesn't really matter.
No. 37465
Fatality rate: 0.005%
Cure: YES

Wuhan virus
Fatality rate: 3%
Cure: lolno
No. 37467 Kontra
A whooping 3%!
A true bioweapon!
The new plague!
We're all going to die!
Or if we don't die we'll all have crippled lungs!

m8 please. It can be contained, it will be contained, and it also will be cured.
You're not going to die, and you'll not get the chance to LARP as a character from the Decameron either.
I'm sick of this defeatist nonsense. Panic if the number of cases outside China "spiral out of control".
No. 37468
Watch the markets open on Monday
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>On Friday, Kentucky gun owners presented themselves armed at the State Capitol in Frankfort.

Not necessarily 'news', but it has it all: meme soldiers, kalachnikovs (now Russians good) and even slav squats (see..). Also funny how they hide their faces but not entirely, knowing full well that if you try to pull this out in a State Capitol while not being White you are going to get killed instantly.
No. 37471
Gucci Charmander sounds like the name of a robot from Pacific Rim :-DDDDD
No. 37472
The nom de guerre of the guy from the left in the pic. Imagine he cracking and being spree-killed by him...
No. 37475
God these are the kinds of retards I have to deal with if society collapses here
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Tbh, in terms of spree-killers, going down to a sense of humour having edgelord called Gucci Charmander would be better than some no-fun edgelord like the supreme gentleman or something.
No. 37485
That guy was arrested today.
No. 37495
Yes it's a twitter thread, but it's a bad idea to trust any statistic you get from state-approved Chinese media. They always underreport problems.
3% death rate is the bare minimum. It's less of a danger for young people, but we're not completely out of the clear. And all of our older relatives will be at great risk if they don't take precautions. It'd be wise to stockpile at least a month's worth of emergency food (flour, beans or lentils, some kind of preserved vegetable if you want to be healthy) beforehand, so that you can all NEET for a month under a worst case scenario. If the death rate really is up to 10%, that's equivalent to the Spanish flu, and we shouldn't rule out some kind of serious social unrest and breakdown of public services considering how much softer our countries are today (if you can handle WWI, you can keep calm and carry on even in a flu pandemic).

It's easy to dismiss the danger because of all the IDS HABBENING X-DDDD retards who go apeshit over everything, but this presents an actual risk. If there's a 3% chance your parents will die, that's not something to casually dismiss. Not planning for tail risks is 100% bydlo shit.
No. 37534
One of weinstein’s accusers testified that he is in fact intersex and has a vagina, and it seems like nobody really cares. Weird. Look it up if you don’t believe me btw.

Idk why this lady would say something like that under oath unless it was true.
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No. 37537 Kontra
This reads like a parody of itself.
No. 37539
I suppose it’s possible that, owing to his corpulence, his penis was buried in so much fat that his genitals appeared ambiguous to the woman.
No. 37640
I honestly had to read news links before deciding it was actually real. This is especially true because you just posted this piece of text with no sources and not even bothering to show any like article headline along with it so I was convinced it's fake please do so in the future. I honestly thought well if she said that maybe she was just trying to further degrade and insult him but no, that's quite possibly real and exactly what happened. Weinstein is a Jew keep in mind so it's entirely plausible that he had an especially incompetent mohel who mutilated the shit out of his dick as an infant. This would help to explain his exhibitionism and extreme reliance on trying to gain and use his wealth and power in a manner to sexually dominate and humiliate women. I mean, if a rabbi cut the shit out of his dick because he was drunk and infant Weinstein's dick slipped while he was cutting, it would go a long way towards making a lot of rational sense out of behavior.

So just keep in mind every action has consequences. You might think hey it's okay for me to have a little drinky poo before work and then suddenly you've created a complete monster 50 years later raping and degrading women because he's got a dick complex. Supervillains are borned this way you know.
No. 37730
Not that I would doubt that there are disgusting "people" in hollywood, but I think all of them deserved everything. Both the women and the fat, old jew. Both had unsatiable greed and lust for power and money and paid for it. It's only sad that Weinstein pays more for it then the women who just whored themselves out to him for a good job.
No. 37733
It's about the fact that everything in Hollywood has to do with money and power not the fact that they're Jews or not. Moreover it would be like disbelieving somebody talking shit about Scientology solely because they wanted a piece of the pie. That's the actual language every single bully, tyrant, and abuser uses, "oh they just wanted the money." You shouldn't have to suck some old fat guy's mutilated dick for a semi-honest job. Well not even semi honest I guess all of Hollywood is even less sincere than porn stars and the whole industry is based on nothing but lies. Also vanity. I hate the shit out of vanity more than anything and despised when youtube became about attention whores and narcissists and to this day I despise all the shitty vidya streamers like pewdiepie, markiplier, septic eye and all those other cancerous faggots.

I mean really why does anybody even buy into this excuse? There's a million better easier ways to make money than lying and going to court trying to sue some guy who's so wealthy and powerful he can easily crush lawsuits of genuine child rape. I can just imagine some fat pig like Dan "the foot man" Schneider getting up there and saying all these kids are just telling lies because they wanted his money and they were asking for it anyway. They are clearly fundamentally abusing their wealth and power and their asses should all be nailed to the wall for it.
No. 37737 Kontra
The only way we'll ever truly know is if, for some reason, Harvey Weinstein's medical records get released. It's also entirely possible his penis looked deformed because it's tiny and tucked between layers of adipose.
No. 37759 Kontra
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> I hate the shit out of vanity more than anything and despised when youtube became about attention whores and narcissists and to this day I despise all the shitty vidya streamers like pewdiepie, markiplier, septic eye and all those other cancerous faggots.
You just have to sign in to youtube, like videos that interest you, and subscribe to channels that interest you and magically most of the irrelevant parts of the trending feed will disappear. I even pause my watch and search history so that my suggestions will only be based on likes and subscriptions. This can even be applied to hollywood nonsense: just avoid the media you dislike and keep your own children away from celebrities the same way you would keep them away from cabbagechanners. But seriously though, all of this butthurt at society in general screams of youth angst, are you sure that you're not in violation of rule #1?
No. 37770
Climate changes are way too slow for fast- and short-living humans: every time we will be comfortable with how the things are now. Would it be desert or glaciers - we will be OK and will think there were no time better than now.
No. 37774
It would work if our nerve centers weren't paralyzed. One would think that even in a system as absolutely pure shitty as monarchism that the elites would care about that sort of thing and try to guide their kingdom away from such catastrophes. I don't think it's necessarily even entirely the fault of short lived humans as it is the confluence of a complete lack of leadership for those dumb masses as well as our system which rewards shareholders for short term gains even at the expense of longer term catastrophic losses.

I know not what should replace it but it's become increasingly clear to me how our American version of Capitalism is probably the root of our modern problems. Scripture warned us that love of money is the root of all evil and I'm beginning to recognize over the last few months how our current society proves how true it is and how severe our consequences for ignoring such warnings. sorry I also just watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUppu2OHVTY so I think that's filtering what's being said in this post somewhat
No. 37795
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Soldier in Thailand killed his commander, started shooting in mall, also killing 12 people and now taken hostages
No. 37973
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A couple of related stories from yesterday. Well, sort of related.

>U.S. officials say Huawei Technologies Co. can covertly access mobile-phone networks around the world through “back doors” designed for use by law enforcement, as Washington tries to persuade allies to exclude the Chinese company from their networks.
>“We have evidence that Huawei has the capability secretly to access sensitive and personal information in systems it maintains and sells around the world,” national security adviser Robert O’Brien said.
>“Huawei does not disclose this covert access to its local customers, or the host nation national-security agencies,” another senior U.S. official said.

>The Swiss government has ordered an inquiry into a global encryption company based in Zug following revelations it was owned and controlled for decades by US and German intelligence.
>The operation, codenamed Thesaurus and then renamed Rubicon in 1980s, demonstrated the overwhelming intelligence value of being able to insert flaws into widely sold communications equipment.
>When encryption technology evolved from mechanical to electronic in the 1960s, the NSA manipulated the algorithms used by Crypto devices, so they could be quickly decoded. The company started making two versions of its machines – secure models sold to friendly governments and rigged systems for everyone else – before being taken over outright by the CIA and the BND.
>The link between US intelligence and Crypto was first reported by the Baltimore Sun in 1995, leading several countries to stop buying from the company. Bizarrely, however, Iran continued to purchase Crypto equipment for several years.
No. 37977
You have no idea what you are talking about
No. 37978
It was extremely stupid of you to allow your potential enemy to produce electronics for you. Same mistake our government is doing right now, chinese telecommunications workers are infiltrating into valuable facilities and the gov uses chinese electronics for military, transportation and shit(because Russia barely produces its own). And the half of Africa is literally using chinese surveillance system used in China for social credit.

It truly frightens me that world is ruled by such simpleminded people. Imagine Israel producing gas chambers and crematoriums for Nazi Germany.
No. 37979
You saying like our goverment even cares about all this stuff. They pretend they care for people inside country, same as most "security laws" turns or 1.steal more money or 2.against people inside russia or 3.both.
One day they may just sell whole country to china and leave.
No. 37981
This shit could be used against them personally and to sabotage their outer activities.
No. 37984 Kontra
Fuck off 4kanker pol
No. 37987 Kontra
>4kanker pol
I use archived pages because a lot of news sites have endlessly loading ads and videos. Obviously I can turn on an ad blocker, but as a courtesy to anyone who clicks the link, I like to use an archived page which always loads fast and hassle-free. There are also some news sites which keep track of how many articles you read, and remind you that you have 'x' articles left this month etc. Yeah, there are easy ways for anyone to get around that, but it's another factor in my reason for using archived pages. I just copy the link, and 99% of the time someone has archived it.
No. 37988 Kontra
The only people who use archive.is are poltards and the only reason why they use it is because they're deliberately trying to prevent any news organizations from getting ad money from their clicks. It's not a courtesy. Literally all of us have adblocker. The only people who don't are boomers and bydlo of whom a significant portion of pols stuff is pitched. That, and to obscure the actual source before clicking it so they could just as easily post something from breitbart, daily stormer, or a blog and anyone scrolling by is just going to read the green text and react to that, while anyone pointing out "hey this is some idiot's blog" would be drowned in a sea of shitposts.

I don't just hate it because it's a 4kank habit; I hate it because it's also borderline dishonest. Just copy the actual link so I can see what I'd be clicking on or where it came from.
No. 37989 Kontra
>it's also borderline dishonest. Just copy the actual link so I can see what I'd be clicking on or where it came from.
This is a fair point which I hadn't considered. In the future, to avoid confusion, I'll use direct links.
No. 37990
Sorry I've been trying not to come off as being a dick, condescending, or just generally being insufferable online but my eyes just completely glaze over the moment I see archive links which is completely unfair to the topic. Frankly I think it's incredibly frightening that it is even a matter for debate and shows how much globalismwhich really is just another world for transnational Capitalism tbh unrestrained is an unspeakably shitty system that harms everyone other than the elites down to the very moral fibres and security of a nation and a people. It's just mindblowing to me that people who consider themselves diehard Christians or nationalists support such an unspeakably shitty and harmful system that pretty much guarantees foreign interests owning and designing enough of your secure systems and military hardware as well as legally buying and owning vital national industries that a people's security and future can be utterly compromised to the point of them might as well just dissolving themselves as a state.

Every day I find myself looking at mother Russia more and more as a grim reminder of our own fate. In the end Russia dissolved itself for reasons I still don't entirely understand and in the process the peoples security and livelihoods vanished overnight as now unemployed and suddenly less than patriotic officials/officials turned gangsters sold everything off to foreigners with a small elite class of crooks emerging many of them Jews and churkas if Russian posters are to be believed solely at their own insular benefit and against the national interest.

Considering the fact we are already in a defacto state of that now it makes me fear for my future in this country all the more so when I see what dithering is going on about Huawei. Although it must also be added, that I'd find it a supreme irony if a nominally Communistic state essentially bought out and imploded America to such a thorough degree that in the future it ends up discrediting unbridled Capitalism in much the same way Communism has been discredited up to now.
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This is actually exactly what I mean
I'm scrolling through my news feed and notice Sinn Fein is winning. Okay pretty tier feeling topic but then I start seeing stories about how the bankers, landlords, and other frankly parasites on the people started panicking in Ireland. Why? Because a group of genuine nationalists might win. What the fuck even IS the housing market anyway? I remember 2008/09 way too clearly and bitterly where there were rows upon rows of empty houses with families thrown out onto the streets, sometimes because of viciously retarded policies that corps like Bank of America blamed on some fall guy as clerical errors. Now basically the IRA is saying they might--in a shocking fit of madness--actually start building and providing homes for their people. I just find it funny reading this after going on about it here. I do not any longer think that nationalism and capitalism are compatible ideologies, drives, or motives, in fact I'd go so far as to say they are intrinsically diametrically opposed ones.

Wait fucking what
>“For the first time in 100 years, it’s possible you’ll have a party that calls itself left-wing leading a government,” said Eoin O’Malley, an associate professor of political science at Dublin City University, referring to Sinn Fein.
I thought the IRA was right wing and nationalist?
I'm kind of confused by that but anyway

>While power was passed back and forth between the two center-right parties, parts of Irish identity, such as the expectation that people could grow up to own their own homes, began to vanish. And just as Smyth said the vote for abortion rights had been driven in part by “a very deep sense of national shame at the way women had been treated historically in this country,” she said that the turnout this weekend reflected the regret of some voters for not vanquishing an outdated political system sooner.

>“Older people voting for Sinn Fein are saying, ‘Well, actually, my son, my daughter, my grandchildren, they haven’t got a house,’” Smyth said. “So there is that feeling of guilt that we’re not leaving them a very good world — and we’ve wrecked the planet, too.”
Meanwhile all the bankers and property owners are shitting themselves because Sinn Fein wants to make sure that it's own people have a right and possibility of owning their own damn homes which let's be perfectly frank here, you and I both know that what I just redtexted is exactly what our situation is here, and I personally do not ever expect to own my own home, and even if I did ever "own" one I am never going to actually own it because I'd just end up with a mortgage thus making me nothing but another tenant on the land only with more arcane steps than renting a flat except the carrot being dangled on a stick in front of us like a lottery ticket conning us out of what little hard earned money we have that letmetellyousonny you too can own this one day. Meanwhile BoA can just tell you to fuck right off and throw you out on the street--thus proving rather brutally that you own nothing.

So like I said earlier I find this a problem ironically enough of property rights because the people themselves, both collectively and individually, end up truly owning absolutely fucking nothing in our society except we have to pay through the nose for it too. And let me tell you everyone is in such a race to the bottom, have you ever been to a big box hardware store lately? Their shelving units are fucking garbage. Literally every third screw snaps. It is entirely possible for China to completely fuck us as a people through soft power even without doing it on purpose simply by design of the system itself. I'm not even talking about directly spying on us, what I mean is that they can sell us such shoddy cheap shit materials that our houses fucking collapse harder than foreigners can meme about it at us. If you've ever actually worked in construction, landscaping, carpentry or anything even as a hobby where you're building shit just the decline in quality over the last 20-30 years is phenomenal and these nationtraitors actually get openly applauded for selling out their own countrymen just to increase their profit margins by a fraction of a percentage point, and more often than not by some huge margin that they don't share with even their employees while gouging the fuck out of us and shifting their workers.

So good on Sinn Fein, I think?
No. 37997
No worries.

>Frankly I think it's incredibly frightening that it is even a matter for debate
That's what I found most alarming about the Wall Street Journal article-that this is somehow a debate. Just look at this line, which is also used as a caption beneath the photo:
"Foreign capitals have had to weigh Huawei’s alleged threat to national security against what many carrier executives say is its high-quality gear and competitive pricing."

How is "competitive pricing" even considered when we're talking about national security? Now I'm assuming that the US has evidence to support their claims, but that seems likely since they've begun sharing classified details with allies. But on the subject of proof, another line mentions that the US has been aware of Huawei's backdoor access since 2009. Okay, but they only moved to ban Huawei equipment from government contracts in 2019. So for 10 years the government was okay with a foreign nation installing a backdoor into communications equipment. Who's making these decisions?
No. 38021
>Who's making these decisions?
Corporations and the oligarchs who own and run them.

Like I've said before, I just sort of feel like I somehow just woke up from a dream or took out my CHIP or stopped drinking the neoliberal Capitalist koolaid or whatever. What amazes me is you have people like Alex Jones even ranting about Globalism by name but instead being a typical Zionist owned foreign agent shill outright calling things Socialism which are all literally the result of Capitalism and Globalism which is just another name for Capitalism, which is inherently hostile to both nationstates and the human beings within them. After all, what does it matter to someone part of this small international Capital clique care? If one nation state gets totally destroyed he can just move to another. They are like a capstone floating high above us, which even the new rich and lesser wealthy elite are simply not a part of and still bound and subject to all the absurd parody rules invented by this clique. All the Trumps, Gates, Eisners, Clintons, Bezos, Bransons, Jobs, all the people who run and own Monsanto, EA, Time Warner, Raytheon, Bank of America, what do they even give a shit about us?

Hell if anything theyve proven to what extent they even are parasites with no loyalties to anyone but their own class, who spend more time around British billionaires, Arab and Russian oil barons, and Chinese industrialists than they ever even do around their own people. They siphon off all our money, pay no taxes, socialize the costs of their production through everything from subsidies to not paying their own workers enough wages that the customer himself is subsidizing their own damn wages or the taxpayer by these people all being on food benefits and other welfare (which even just got cut massively in the last year) who they absolutely have to have hired here, and then shipping all the jobs off overseas, dodging all taxes, storing their money in foreign safe havens, and then spending their money on foreign investments and goods. Basically, acting like a New Russian, except at least the Russians even among bydlo are smart enough to know these people are thieves and scoundrels abusing a corrupt system.

So their very modus operandi is inherently hostile to their own volk. On top of that the military industrialists are outright scamming us into pointless foreign wars that kill not just innocent foreigners but get our own citizens killed just so they can create the stimulus for more weapons and other goods purchases through again the US taxpayer and privatizing those profits while socializing the cost of business. Those people should all be hanged, and by that I mean we literally need to find them and execute them all as traitors to their own country and people. So when you're already that kind of person, what do you give a shit if you can make another deal inherently hostile to your own people and their material welfare and security if you can make another buck? "It's just business."
No. 38022
Sinn Feinn are one of those old nationalist groups that adopted left-wing socialism because it was the zeitgeist. Pretty sure it's just them and the PKK left.

TBH some form of national socialism is probably the only functional ideology. It's basically what Scandis and free East Asians have, they just don't slap a name on it and go crazy.
No. 38023 Kontra
Go look up the lyrics to the Internationale. It's a sacred religious text, even if its followers have never known what to do with it.
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What? Even if so I'm not sure the point you're trying to make.

The problem is national Socialism itself has come to mean NSDAP which is obviously just as much if not more pure cancer than Capitalism and Communism.

Actually what about something not quite Socialistic but sort of and that has religious values? Does anything like that even exist? I guess basically something like what Jesus taught which come to think of it every one of those ideologies rejects more or less.
No. 38030
>Actually what about something not quite Socialistic but sort of and that has religious values?
I think Mormons come the closest in terms of caring for their own like Europeans do.

I'm at the point of thinking that religion is necessary, but not sufficient. Obviously there have been innumerable theocratic shitholes that use the force of God to cow the people in face of the worst exploitative hierarchies. But in the short history of society unmoored from religion, nothing lasting and stable has been built. Except Mormonism. They've managed to reform the worst parts of their faith, while not collapsing into the postmodern feel-good spiritual black hole that defines the rest of American Christianity.
No. 38033
new thread is actually here >>38032

NOT at an embarrassing mix up of posts that I might have made in this thread, and most certainly did not delete to hide my shame