>>44673>Deviance is not an essence inherent but historically conditioned.
Deviance is extraversion combined with low agreeableness. Character is 80% inheritable, Hans Eysenck knew this 60 years ago. People behave in the way they behave because it's their character. Certain countries are the way they are because their populations behave in certain ways.
But that's not even accounting for cultural norms. Brits drive on the left side of the road. If a British tourist or immigrant decided to drive on the left side of the road, he would certainly be stopped and would certainly lose his license. We'd call him nuts.
Yet, you can see this even in 'educated' Muslims in Europe like Hengameh Yaghobifarrah. Apparently, she still suffers from hurt feelings because, when she was a child, her friend's parents didn't invite her to have dinner with them, but kept her in her friends room while the family ate. The German cultural norm of not feeding other people's children uninvited and without talking it over with the parents clashed with the Iranian cultural norm of inviting everyone who's in the house. Clearly, you can't have it both ways. In my country, I want to have it my way. I don't want to be chastised for it by Heng.
In her opinion pieces, she keeps insisting that everything German is bad, from our toilets to food to abstaining from very ostensible displays of wealth. If she had her way, we would have squat toilets and eat Iranian food instead of German food. But if she wants to make Germany Persia, why didn't her parents stay in Persia? Why doesn't she migrate to Persia? There seem to be some aspects that make Germany a more pleasant place to live. Yet, she wants things in Germany to be like they are in Persia. To me, this is quite contradictory.
I see parallels to certain ideas present in the US. By desegregation, they changed communities beyond recognition, but that wasn't enough. Now, they are angry when people don't like the change and do everything they can to move to 98% white place.
>Your homogenic white state will see the same shit if you have to deal with the same social differentiation we have now
Quoting Tage Erlander, 1962
>Jag är övertygad om att den amerikanska regeringens svårigheter i stor utsträckning beror på det faktum att det i Amerika finns en massarbetslöshet, som gör det naturligt för många vita att försöka vältra över fattigdomen och arbetslösheten på de svarta i den tron att de därmed slipper att drabbas själva. Vi svenskar lever ju i en så oändligt mycket lyckligare lottad situation. Vårt lands befolkning är homogen, inte bara i fråga om rasen utan också i många andra avseenden. Därför kan vi angripa arbetslöshetsproblemen på ett helt annat sätt, i medvetande om att det vi gör är en sak som i varje fall inte influeras av skiljaktigheter i hudfärg eller religion utan att våra insatser får sin motivering uteslutande med tanke på arbetslöshetsfrågan själv. Därför bör vi måhända vara litet mera ödmjuka när vi nalkas det här problemet än vad vi många gånger kanske är.
And look what Olof Palme and his successors did. It's like they wanted their very own race riots. And they got them when immigrant kids started burning cars in Södertälje.
Immigration breeds conflict. Do an international comparison in police riot gear. The more 'multicultural' the country, the more militarized its police force. Cultural and racial differences don't merely create a occasion for conflict to arise, they are a cause of conflict. Police officers in Germany did not look like Darth Vader in the 80s. I wonder why?
>The problem is you say it's only leftist and migrants who do it. And that is not true
I am quite certain that it is, with very few exceptions. Leftist students and immigrants think it's their right to just dump their garbage wherever, and that it's not big deal. In areas rich in immigrants, garbage isn't collected in regular ways. Let me enlighten you about what I witnessed in Freiburg, first hand: immigrants don't separate their garbage. Why? I don't know. Probably because they think rules don't apply to them. Instead, they put everything in the yellow bags that are supposed to contain only packagings. Those bags, of course, aren't collected, because they contain way to many items that don't belong. So the bags stay at the curbs, where rats, crows and stray cats get into them and t distribute all the trash. After a few days, the city sends out a team to collect all the litter in the streets. To me, it's plain obvious that that's not a particularly efficient method. Still, my fellow students decidedly where in favor of the practice. "why get upset about such a little thing" "it does get collected in the end, doesn't it" "efficiency is a German fetish that needs to be done away with" "I think a positive is that it offers employment to more workers". Unfortunately, I'm not joking. I think none of the arguments is particularly good, but that's what they said. To this day, I can't get my head around it.
It would be nicer for everyone if the streets were clean, I'm certain of that. Yet, the inhabitants of those streets litter them. And other inhabitants of those streets make up arguments why litter is good. I think the first is due to a lack of feeling of community. In multicultural areas, social trust and feelings of belonging are eroded by cultural and racial differences. There are studies on that. No one really sees those streets as 'our streets', they are streets dumb German taxpayers pay for, so why bother. The arguments I heard from my fellow students probably stem from a sentiment that has been beaten into German pupils heads post-68: 'secondary virtues are worth nothing, you can use secondary virtues to run a concentration camp.' You can't run an outhouse without them, but no one seems to care, as long as the outhouse is not a racist outhouse, it doesn't have to be a working outhouse.
There might be other aspects to it. The very prominent separation between the public space (dirty) and private space (clean) in Muslim cultures might have to do with it, but I'm not certain if that. Japan has that separation, and their streets are clean. But the have homogenity. Still, clean homes and relatively dirty streets are a cultural norm, so dirty might be culturally accepted in some places. Do you blame Germans from moving away from dirty streets?
>You catter to the idea of the idyll, if the downsides are not visible it is still an idyll.
If the downsides are not visible, there are no downsides. Why would you consider something that has no perceivable effect a downside?
>You think individuals are hyper autonomous
You see that individuals are autonomous. They make the decision to move away from things they don't like. They don't like racial minorities and they don't like ill-behaved children. The presence of both is the consequence of political decisions. You don't like individuals acting autonomous and seeing solutions for problems that others created. It doesn't follow that autonomy does not exist.
>and I think that is bullshit because you wouldn't be able to even speak without socialisation.
So? Does that mean I should be held responsible to pay for the clean-up of streets and parks littered by immigrants or other assholes who can't behave decently. Have the assholes pay.