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No. 4573 Systemkontra
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At least 49 die, hundreds injured in Greece wildfires

>At least 49 people have been killed, scores more injured and almost 700 others rescued from the sea after a devastating wildfire swept through a small resort town near Athens, the Greek fire department has said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/23/greeks-urged-to-leave-homes-as-wildfires-spread-near-athens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG7bmu6VxF0
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No. 4584
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France and Germany no longer acknowledge US leadership in global trade

>France and Germany acknowledge the escalating nature of an emerging “trade war” with Washington; the US now stands alone against China.

>During the G20 summit in Buenos Aires, the French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire warned his counterparts that Washington is moving towards the “law of the jungle” in international trade.

>From Berlin, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Sunday that Washington can no longer be relied upon to deliver world order. “We can’t rely on the superpower of the United States,” Merkel said. However, she did vow to work for the “crucial” Euro-Atlantic relationship.

>Commenting on tariffs, Merkel said there is a danger the Euro-Atlantic partners will “hurt each other” and will have far-reaching consequences for the world.

>Warning about the bottom line effect of an escalating Euro-Atlantic trade war, the chief of the International Monetary Fund Christine Lagarde is warning that it may cost the global economy $430bn, even as the global GDP is surging by 3.9%.

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/france-germany-no-longer-acknowledge-us-leadership-global-trade/
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No. 4592
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>23-25% of young people in Turkey and Macedonia are NEETs while the Scandinavian countries enjoy the lowest rate imaginable
I wonder why I have never heard sultan Erdogan addressing this problem, he's probably too busy jailing the Kurds and opposition. Really makes you think, innit?

https://twitter.com/EU_Eurostat/status/1017335037207998464
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No. 4595 Kontra
1,7 MB, 229 × 230, 0:05
>>4584
European leaders are always making these noises. It's getting embarrassing now because they can't and won't actually do anything beyond some half-hearted tariffs on luxury goods.

>>4592
I had no idea Netherlands and West Czechoslovakia were Scandinavian.
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No. 4597
17 kB, 595 × 173
Can Trump tweets be considered news? If yes, this one made me giggle.
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No. 4598
>>4597
I think that most Americans don't even know that Russian officials openly celebrated the election of Trump in 2016. The Russian audience was euphoric and the Russian web was full of vatnik's rejoice. Zhirinovsky bragged how he drank a bottle of wine in honor of Trump, for sure many other Russian oligarchs and sanctioned officials were happy too.
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No. 4599
>>4573
Death toll updated to at least 75, dozens said to be still missing

Aftermath:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Symc_nhIB_E
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No. 4600
>>4592
It's because in Sweden people don't work because they can and in turkey because they can't. Also several backward regions with old economy.
> he's probably too busy jailing the Kurds and opposition
Bolsheviks eliminate illiteracy.
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No. 4603
>>4599
Damn, macabre images.
Portugal recently had a particularly violent fire that led to the death of several people.

Feels bad that it hit a poor rural area, so plenty of yokels would die trying to fend off fires that threaten their small agricultural holdings.
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No. 4616
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>>4603
Yep, we also had a devastating wild fire near Split last year, luckily only 1 person died as far I remember.
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No. 4630
I have heard there are also wild fires in Yakutia, or at least there were some as of last week.
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No. 4639
>>4630
As far I know wildfires are part of natural regeneration cycle in Siberian forests.
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No. 4663
119 kB, 660 × 840
I like how the British press don't fart about in times like this.
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No. 4664
>>4663
In Germany there wasn't any rain for weeks, I guess its the same on most parts of the world?

Any news about how it affects world wide crop markets?
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No. 4665
>>4663
That feel when in a red zone but have been wearing a jumper and beanie for the past few months.

Why are Euros such softcocks. It's not even hot tbh.
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No. 4670
>>4664
My fathers basement is under water because it was raining so much a few days ago in his little village.
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No. 4675
>>4663
The weather is actually quite mild and enjoyable here. Good days.
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No. 4678
179 kB, 962 × 648
>>4664
>Any news about how it affects world wide crop markets?

I've seen some rumblings being made about domestic prices but most have downplayed the risk. There is almost certain to be a sharp price rise on potatoes because the start of the year was so cold but it was also wet so other staple crops are having a grand old time of it: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/features/heatwave-food-shortage-supply-vegetables-fruit-crops-1976-a8455281.html

If you want a proper story then look at Iraq. It gets a scorching heatwave every year but decades of poor water management have finally brought the countries agriculture to it's knees with a prolonged drought: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/19/iraq-suspends-rice-farming-water-crisis-deepens/

>>4665
>Why are Euros such softcocks. It's not even hot tbh.

Tough talk but let's see you handle living the majority of the year under a gray overcast sky with horizontal rain.
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No. 4680
>>4678
Crop prices should rise, due to adverse weather.
however if you can beat the markets, seems uncertain.

You can make money based on water rich and water poor areas.
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No. 4682
>>4678
I lived at the arse end of Kiwiland for a decade. Near nothing between it and the antarctic. Breddy cosy tbh. Would live in over this sun blasted hellhole. Send help. Or nukes.
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No. 4697
>>4670
Oh well. I don't follow the news tbh.

Here, trees shake of their leafs, because they don't had any proper watering for weeks, a short rainfall here and there won't help them get watered.
Yesterday evening I was out with a friend, they sky got dark grey, we heard thunder but in the end really just a few droplets come out of the sky for not even 5min.
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No. 4700
>>4697
>they sky got dark grey, we heard thunder but in the end really just a few droplets come out of the sky for not even 5min.

I'm having that several times every year. Often I can even watch the thunderbolts a few dozen km away where it indeed rains over the lowlands.

t. living on a hill near Zagreb.
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No. 4715
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>BUSHFIRES in snowy Sweden? Sound odd? Well, perhaps that’s why the Arctic Circle nation has resorted to extreme measures in its attempts to douse the flames: laser guided bombs.

>The Swedish Air Force has deployed two of its Gripen fighters to attack the front lines of forest fires raging through the country. And just as we blow on our candles to snuff them out, so can the pressure waves from a bomb extinguish a blaze. The Local-Sweden news service reports the desperate measure has been taken against a fire burning out-of-control in central Sweden for the past two weeks. It’s in particularly difficult terrain. Firefighters are struggling to set up containment lines. Complicating matters further, the fire is passing through an old military weapons testing range — full of old unexploded ordnance.

>“Our preliminary assessment right now is that this had a good effect, ” the fire team leader said.

>When they exploded, each 220kg bomb quashed the flames for a radius of up to 100m. The shockwaves simply blew out the flames in the same way our breath does to candles. And such an explosive technique is already in use to douse fires in oil wells.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/sweden-deploys-laserguided-bombs-to-douse-forest-fires/news-story/1cf1fe478b64ffd118aafe5d1cdd56a0

And just now the flash flooding and absolutely apocalyptic thunderstorm has started hitting that will last all weekend. Man has struck back and the Earth is afraid.
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No. 4721
>German village ready to evacuate due to forest fire

>Brandenburg state officials said Thursday that residents of Fichtenwalde, 35 kilometers (22 miles) from the capital, should pack clothing, important documents and medications ahead of a possible evacuation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/german-village-ready-to-evacuate-due-to-forest-fire/2018/07/26/31d64b44-90e3-11e8-ae59-01880eac5f1d_story.html?utm_term=.7c245060fbda
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No. 4726
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848 kB, 960 × 540, 0:19
>>4721
looks gud

There's also a shitton of old ammunition lying around in the area so the firefighters can't get in
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No. 4735
>>4700
Explains a lot. My city is located at a pass in some kind of hilly area

>>4726
>>4721
I cannot remember when there was a wildfire in Germany last time.
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No. 4742
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>you will never live in one the wealthiest countries in history with median wealth smaller than in Pooland or Greece
I would say that it feels good if I wasn't Ukrainian. Well, at least I wasn't dumb enough to vote for a literal oligarch that cut tax on corporations and tried to destroy affordable healthcare.
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No. 4743
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/112-ua-russia-stops-7-ukrainian-vessels-in-24-hours-on-azov-sea.html
In the Azov Sea, Russian authorities have refused 144 foreign vessels access to Ukraine's Mariupol and Berdyansk ports, strangling steel exports. Already for a month Russians are implementing an economic blockade and trying to turn Azov Sea into an internal Russian sea. This is the price of a 300-year old alliance with Russia.
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No. 4747
>>4742

You'll never be a Luxembourgian citizen, why even live? ;_;
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No. 4748
https://www.cfr.org/event/john-b-hurford-memorial-lecture-michael-mcfaul?utm_content=072618&utm_medium=social_earned&utm_term=michael-mcfaul&utm_source=tw
Very interesting lecture with McFaul, the former American ambassador to Russia. I particularly liked his description of his meetings with Putin and Medvedev, it seems that Medvedev isn't as inept as I thought before, he actually expressed his own political will sometimes and acted against the interests of Putin. This is a proof that in Kremlin there are different political factions.
After reading this article some people can start to think that Medvedev, Shuvalov, etc are saints who dislike Putin and want prosperity for Russians. They are not good boys, for you reading their biographies in Wikipedia should be enough to understand the level of their corruption. Westerners often underestimate the level of corruption in Eastern Europe and especially Russia where a group of oligarchs represented by Putin seized political power and turned the country into a giant fiefdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
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No. 4749
136 kB, 2102 × 1012
>>4742
I was looking at the picture and happy to know that I'm above-average rich. Then I counted the zeros. Fug. Maybe that's why :DD
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No. 4750
>>4749
>Spurdo Hortst
You mean that Teleshop guy?
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No. 4751
>>4750
Horst is someone else.
He has a Whisky store and became rather famous for a short time by buying whisky.de, which was one of the highest priced domains back then.

Then he blogged about whisky, but later he started to blog about politics and isn't very good in that (unrelated to his political wing) and even worse started to blog about "muh Tesla, loog me rich :DD". I don't know, if someone takes him serious. Whisky blogs used to be nice tho.
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No. 4753
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>>4751
I thought it was this guy.
He is a superior German übermensch scamming easterner babushkas out of their pensions by selling products on TV :DD
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No. 4754
52 kB, 570 × 416
>>4753
LMAO that's Horst Fuchs. Funny how similar they look.
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No. 4755
>>4754
He used to be on TV a lot. Most major channels had a block of his commercials in the late morning time interval.
I don't know about the current situation though, since I haven't turned on the TV in forever.
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No. 4756
63 kB, 1280 × 720
>>4755
I know him from Austrian TV. I think he isn't aired anymore.
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No. 4818
>Serial High School Track Pooper Has Resigned As Superintendent

>The New Jersey superintendent accused of pooping on a local high school football field and track on a daily basis has resigned, according to NJ.com

>Thomas Tramaglini was arrested in May and charged with lewdness, littering and defecating in public. He had taken paid leave from his $147,504-a-year job.
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No. 4819
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No. 4820
>>4819
I still think the poop man of Bratislava was far more heroic. Does anybody remember that guy's name?
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No. 4831
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No. 4962
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Other one is autosaging and I'd rather find a better story but ayyy
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/deadly-nursing-home-shooting_us_5b5dbaeae4b0de86f497ce68
That's a new one. I don't think we normally have mass shootings at nursing homes.

In similar news cops almost shot Ving Rhames
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/ving-rhames-says-police-held-him-at-gunpoint-in-his-own-home-after-a-neighbor-reported-a-robbery/ar-BBLaJVy?OCID=ansmsnnews11

>“He said to me, ‘A woman called 911 [and] said a large black man was breaking into the house. And so we came,’ ” Rhames told Cane. When Rhames went across the street to confront the neighbor with a police officer and the police chief by his side, the woman denied it, Rhames alleged in the interview.

>“You can check this with the Santa Monica Police Department. They apologized and what have you,” Rhames said. “This is the God’s honest truth.”

>Ultimately, the incident left Rhames feeling concerned for the safety of his teenage son, Freedom. “What if it was my son and he had a video game remote or something, and you thought it was a gun?
>Ving Rhames is afraid his son named Freedom is going to get shot by the cops
My LDL went up 50 points just reading that article.

And the main reason I even checked the news today https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/joint-defense-cohen-experts-hired-analyze-trump-cohen/story?id=56890003 because apparently some sort of Saul Goodman shenanigans have been going on, with Cohen secretly recording some conversations with Trump, which is the smart thing to do because that guy has no loyalty to anybody but himself and maybe his daughter.
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No. 4975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el3OlIaUrsU

Nice report. Maracaibo Lake is the biggest lake in South America and place of the older operation of oil extraction in Venezuela. The state oil company can't keep repairing the installations, so oil leaks into the lake, thus making the life of fishermen miserable.
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No. 4977
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No. 5011
202 kB, 787 × 646
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44881554
Israel is builduing its own far-right nation state in the Middle East: Jews oppress minorities and encourage the settlement of their people in the annexed lands, their mafia in foreign countries provided weapons to the state since the 40s, they stole nuclear secrets and openly develop nuclear weapon, the Jews receive $3 billion a year from USA and the American president wants to increase military aid by $200 million in 2019 ( https://jewishchronicle.timesofisrael.com/us-seeks-to-increase-aid-to-israel-by-200m-in-2019/ ). Trump even threatens to cut off the American aid to countries that don't recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

What Ukraine should do to make senpai notice her? Are we not hardcore enough for Trump? Maybe we would get these sweet American money if we annexed Moldova, didn't give up the nukes in 1994, oppressed the russkies in Crimea and threatened Kremlin & Europe to nuke 'em at any moment.
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No. 5015
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>The UK's new Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt is on an official visit to China - but an embarrassing gaffe is stealing the headlines instead. Mr Hunt tried to get into his host's good books by mentioning that his wife is Chinese - but called her "Japanese" instead.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-45004765

Hue. Must be an interesting marriage they have.

>>5009
>Maybe we would get these sweet American money if we annexed Moldova

...You'know that might not be an entirely bad idea. Assuming you could get way with it. And don't you get enough support already you vexatious manlet country!

The reason Israel is a recipient of US aid is the lever of control it offers that comes with the implicit agreement that Israel won't turn the Middle East to glass. There was a similar line of thinking voiced by the US department of defense officials recently over military support to the Gulf states in Yemen. Of course you might have to give Russia a good shooing first to show you're viable but I'm sure you only have to kick the door in for the whole rotten structure to come crashing down.

I would however like to discuss the article:

>Some Israeli Jewish politicians consider that the founding principles of Israel's creation, as a state for Jews in their ancient homeland, are under threat and could become less relevant, or obsolete, in the future.

>Fears over the high birth-rate of Israeli Arabs, as well as possible alternatives to a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which could challenge Israel's Jewish majority, have spurred on calls to anchor the Jewishness of Israel in law.

The two-state solution really is one of the biggest ongoing gaffs of late 20th century history. Not only guaranteed to never be completed but one which actively interferes with any other option and while actively incentivizing conflict.
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No. 5024
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>>5011
If you make Putin sad America makes all of Ukraine into Chernobyl.
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No. 5028
26 kB, 416 × 600
>>5015
>but I'm sure you only have to kick the door in for the whole rotten structure to come crashing down.

I like you.
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No. 5038
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/children-as-young-as-five-carrying-out-sexual-abuse-ls9p6psjl

This sounds like a joke from the Brass Eye pedo eipsode. You can just imagine it: 'Studies have suggested that over 60% of five year-olds are pedophiles' 'Recently a ten year-old boy was arrested for dating an underage girl'.
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No. 5039
>>5038
Children sexuality obsessed Anglos at it once again.
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No. 5043
>>5011
Trump's strange obsession with Israel is illogical. I strongly suspect there is some kind of sick fuckery going on with his one daughter too, and that that somehow plays into it. I also wonder if somehow the Israelis have dirt on him, like if he was fucking kids at Jeffrey Epstein's parties and Trump got recorded doing it. Israel is the only nation he actually goes out of his way to promote, to the extent that Trump actually puts Israel's interests ahead of ours sometimes. Don't fool yourself into thinking there is some strategy. If you want him to like you get proofs of his involvement in kiddie porn or something and blackmail him. The man himself is a genuine psychopath so the rules are different anyway.
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No. 5044
>>5043
Isn't he treating Israel pretty much like most other American presidents did?
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No. 5045
>>5039
Worrying about 7 year olds watching and creating porn is hardly obsessive, is it?
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No. 5046
>>5044
No. Every American president has sucked Israel's dick in one way or another for decades but this guy is an exception. It was particularly noticeable how much Obama and Netanyahu didn't get along, and the degree to which Obama butthurt them at UN. You will notice how Trump is very conspicuously doing the complete opposite. Things like the Jerusalem embassy thing, or going full-on ethnic cleansing mode and USA just supporting that and abandoning any pretense of dealing with a peaceful resolution are very unusual. Trump is sincerely putting Israel ahead of US interests to a very conspicuous and peculiar degree in a way no other US president has really done.
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No. 5052
>>5046
Obama was a democrat though while Trump is a Republican's republican.

To be honest I don't really care about things like an embassy move pissing off Muslims either - not even the Arab states care at this point:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/06/25/mohammed-bin-salman-has-thrown-the-palestinians-under-the-bus/
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No. 5066
22 kB, 460 × 259
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/change-gender-identification-insurance-alberta-1.4754416

He wanted a brand new car — a Chevrolet Cruze with all the trimmings.

As a man in his early 20s, he knew his insurance costs would be high.

So he became a woman, though only on paper.

"I have taken advantage of a loophole," said the man — we're calling him David — who spoke on the condition that his identity be kept confidential because of the potential repercussions.

David, who lives in Alberta, says he identifies as a male. But his government-issued identification tells a different story.

It started when an insurance company gave David a quote — roughly $4,500 a year, if he bought the Chevy. He had a collision and a ticket or two on his record, which helped boost the premium.

Then, he had an idea. He asked the insurer what his costs would be if he were a woman. He was told his annual bill would sink to roughly $3,400 — a $1,100 difference.

"I was pretty angry about that. And I didn't feel like getting screwed over any more," he said.

"So I asked them to change my gender on my auto policy, and she's like, we can't do that."

According to the Insurance Bureau of Canada, men under 25 are generally at higher risk of collision than women of the same age, which means their premiums are often higher.

David, who was 23 at the time, says he learned he first had to change his gender on his birth certificate and driver's licence before he could have it reflected on his insurance policy, to get the cheaper rate.

After doing some research, he realized he needed a doctor's note to show the government he identifies as a woman, even though he doesn't.

"It was pretty simple," he said. "I just basically asked for it and told them that I identify as a woman, or I'd like to identify as a woman, and he wrote me the letter I wanted."

Under the rules in place at the time, Albertans needed to produce a doctor's note to switch the gender marker on their personal documents. In June, the government scrapped the doctor's note requirement for adults, allowing them to declare their marker as M, F or X, for those who don't fit into a strictly male or female binary.

David shipped the note and other paperwork off to the provincial government. And, a few weeks later, he received a new birth certificate in the mail indicating he was a woman.

"I was quite shocked, but I was also relieved," he said. "I felt like I beat the system. I felt like I won."

With the new birth certificate in hand, he changed his driver's licence and insurance policy.

All to save about $91 a month.

"I'm a man, 100 per cent. Legally, I'm a woman," he said.

"I did it for cheaper car insurance."

David says he's aware the methods he used to become a woman on paper are designed for Albertans who need to correct the gender marker on their identification to reflect who they really are. But he says his target was the insurance industry, not the gender diverse community.

"I didn't do it to point out how easy it is to change genders," he said. "I didn't do it to criticize or ridicule transgender or LGBT rights."

According to the Insurance Bureau of Canada, gender is just one factor that insurers consider, along with the driver's age, vehicle, driving record and location.

In 2011, the European Union's highest court ruled the insurance industry's long-standing practice of charging different rates for men and women "constitutes discrimination." The European Court of Justice ordered the industry to remove gender consideration from auto, life and medical insurance plans, among others.

Steve Kee, spokesman for the Insurance Bureau of Canada, says he's heard anecdotal reports of people changing their gender for cheaper insurance, though he doesn't know how often it happens.

"If you're going to declare on any document, you need to be truthful," he said. "If not, you're making a fraudulent claim. This could impact you for any future insurance application that you make, or any other aspect of your life."
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No. 5081
>>5066
> who need to correct the gender marker on their identification to reflect who they really are
>who they really are
The only difference is that most trannies are also self deluding. I find it odd and disturbing how in such a short span of time you can convince people against objective facts.
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No. 5082
>>5066
Applied Feminism.

It would be so funny if he would just say straight to the reports face "Yeah I'm a Woman, mate." and if he wouldn't add anything else.

Feminists would go full shizo.
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No. 5084
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mom-says-daughter-died-paramedics-asked-whether-she-could-afford-n896071

>A week before she was found slumped over her bathtub, Crystle Galloway had given birth to her third child via Caesarean section. In the days that followed, she felt ill. So when Galloway's mother, Nicole Black, was alerted by another grandchild on July 4 that "something is wrong with mama" in the bathroom, she frantically dialed 911. Black said she never expected a life-saving call would end with her 30-year-old daughter's death.

>"The EMS came. The whole conversation was that my daughter couldn't afford an ambulance because she had just had a baby. Did I want to spend $600 just to take her three blocks?" Black, 53, told NBC affiliate WFLA in Tampa last week. The paramedics' seemingly laggard response led to four of them being placed on paid administrative leave during an investigation, Hillsborough County officials said. The responders face separate disciplinary hearings Tuesday; Black has demanded they be fired. "My daughter begged for her life," she also told The Tampa Bay Times. "The only thing they were worried about was my daughter had a new baby and she couldn't afford an ambulance."
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No. 5085
>>5084
I do not think there's anything wrong with that. Why should the staff offer their employers service for someone who will be very likely unable to pay for those services? Who is gonna pay? They, out of their paychecks? You don't order a pizza if you can't pay, so don't order an ambulance if you can't pay. Your life is your responsible. It's your faul when your life doesn't work. An asshole is a person who's life doesn't work, but who pretends it does. If you are bound to the tracks, waiting for the 6 o' clock train, you are the asshole that put you there. It's her own damn fault, like everything that ever happens to anyone is their own damn fault.
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No. 5086 Kontra
>>5085
I hope you win the darwin award for lifetime cripplings one day. neoliberal agenda internalized 120%

the fun thing is you won't ever acknowledge it but say that it is natural because you probably have any capacities to reflect what you think and say
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No. 5087
>>5086
How is that neoliberal in any way? Do you use the term as a buzzword?
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No. 5088
>>5085
You're really comparing a pizza to an ambulance?
You must be a very special kind of retard.
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No. 5091
>>5086
>>5088

He's not compeletely wrong, though. Not completely right either.
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No. 5095
>>5086
>>5088
t. typical German socialist, unwilling to take responsibility for himself. A manchild yelling for "father state". You can stille be fixed and get your life working. Get training from landmark worldwide to see that YOUR life is the outcome of YOUR decisions and that YOU are responsible for YOUR life, no one else, you asshole.
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No. 5096
20 kB, 467 × 453
>>5085
>>5095
Plot twist: the German is actually an American on a military base who has all of his housing and healthcare provided and paid for by Uncle Sam

>>5091
I'm not completely clear on exactly what happened with different parties disputing things, but the paramedics did get fired because at the very least they didn't even bother to do their jobs which includes taking vitals on scene. What's being disputed is these people claim they were only asked to assist in getting her down the stairs, with the mother claiming the medics came and basically refused transport because they disputed that the woman could pay them due to having just been hospitalized for giving birth and thus being unlikely to pay.

It should be noted that A) in America giving birth is likely to cost you many tens of thousands of dollars, and if it's a C-Section you're probably looking at at least $60k, and B) for some mysterious reason ambulances aren't covered under insurance.

I posted this because despite knowing better I like many Americans actually wanted to believe in this country my ancestors fought for, but honestly it is an amazingly broken society that manages to bring new layers of shame every day. I was just thinking while in the bathroom not long ago that the problem is America basically lost its soul and any last shred of moral authority in any official capacity in Vietnam. What saddens me is seeing all the other appendages dying and rotting over the last few decades with that. If you simply look at something so basic and simple as health care, sanitary water etc. as some sort of privilege and a product then you are already a failed society. The only difference between a failed society and a failed state is at least the non-failed state is able to project some kind of military/police power and monopolize force under a central authority.

Another very good example of what a failed society looks like is 90s Russia. If loads of children start living on the street doing heroin and nobody notices children start disappearing to be eaten by cannibals, that is the advanced stages of a failed society. Disputing that a newborn mother with suspected health complications from a recent C-Section can pay an ambulance ride and anyone acting like the biggest problem is arguing about a $600 bill before doing anything else is also a symptom of a failed society.

And as I have said to you all before, just keep watching America and seeing all the collapsing infrastructure. Watch for random power outages, polluted drinking water, collapsing bridges and buildings, inability to coordinate maritime/aviation/other traffic, inability to respond to disasters etc. and all the things you associate with a dysfunctional third world shithole in the news.
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No. 5097
>>5096
>in America giving birth is likely to cost you many tens of thousands of dollars, and if it's a C-Section you're probably looking at at least $60k

Good. I don't see why someone's voluntary condition should be paid for by others. It's one thing to pay for someone who's dying of cancer to get painkillers since you don't sign up for cancer. Only one way to get pregnant and it's pretty easy to avoid.
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No. 5098
>>5096
>Plot twist: the German is actually an American on a military base who has all of his housing and healthcare provided and paid for by Uncle Sam
You were free to take the same offer, weren't you?
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No. 5101
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-sides-with-russia-in-wto-national-security-case-against-ukraine/
There was a period in history of 17th century Ukraine which is officially called The Ruin. I think that this term perfectly describes the last 30 years of life in Ukraine.
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No. 5102
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>>5101
Weren't years of the Soviet occupation the worst for the Thousand-Year Ukraine?
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No. 5103
>>5102
There were many black spots in the history of Ukraine and in large the corruption of Ukrainian elites, failure of planned economy and millions of dead people could be attributed to Russia. Ukrainians didn't appear out of thin air 30 years ago and their current mentality and values are the result of unification with Russia and the influence of Russian culture.
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No. 5114
>>5087
Shoving the responsibility for everything onto the individual is neoliberal, private property rules over state interests. the logic goes that you are free in the market and thus with complete freedom comes responsibility. The problem is that this is unrealistic and just a model. I don't recall the heirs of BMW Quandt worked as plate scrubbers to make it where they are now.

>Plot twist: the German is actually an American on a military base who has all of his housing and healthcare provided and paid for by Uncle Sam

Pheeewww. I also guess he is the first to blame others when something went wrong whereby it should be his fault according to his way of tackling life.

Blame niggers for american downfall etc. it wouldn't surprise me if he lives with that cognitive dissonance
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No. 5143
>>5101
Just exclude USA and Russia from the WTO, problem solved.

just joking
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No. 5144
>>5096
It's relatively simple to explain what happened to your country/society

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fhf35pO5hA
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No. 5147 Kontra
>>5114
>Shoving the responsibility for everything onto the individual is neoliberal, private property rules over state interests. the logic goes that you are free in the market and thus with complete freedom comes responsibility. The problem is that this is unrealistic and just a model. I don't recall the heirs of BMW Quandt worked as plate scrubbers to make it where they are now.

I had the feeling you were using it as a buzzword meaning "free market ideology I dislike".
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No. 5149 Kontra
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>>4977
Update:

He got the funeral procession worthy of a king, and the state proclaimed one day of official mourning
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No. 5156
>>5147
well, it is a buzzword but there is more to it, than a free market will fix it joke. I despise it since I feel the pressure it drews upon us as an individual. But I'm not sure if this concept as its days anyway.
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No. 5162
I am amazed by this shit
https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-instagram-add-tools-to-limit-time-spent-on-the-apps/
Basically they just come up with ways of releasing even MORE monitoring tools under the guise of "helping" you. Which makes more sense: a company which bases its value on add revenue and personal info wanting to help you limit your time there, or trying to find new ways for you to help them monitor your daily schedule and data usages? I'm preaching to the choir but frankly FB and Google are the biggest threats against global freedom in our lifetime.
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No. 5166
>>5162
Could be just a PR move, like "look how good we are, we give away self control tools to those who can't, don't want and never will control themselves."
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No. 5176
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>Chinese authorities filmed smashing coffins and exhuming bodies in 'barbaric' crackdown on burials

>Officials in southeast China have smashed thousands of coffins, some of which were exhumed, as it intensified a campaign banning people from burying their dead.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/01/chinese-authorities-filmed-smashing-coffins-exhuming-bodies/
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No. 5183
>>5176
You have to hand it to the Chinese government, they really don't give a fuck. It's only recently that another regulatory scandal broke involving botched vaccines given to children: https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/07/31/parents-fears-are-the-chinese-communist-partys-biggest-nightmare/

I do wonder how long they will manage to get away with all of this. Maybe they know wonder as well and the North Korean-tier conditions in Xinjiang will soon be spread across the country as part of their drive towards digital authoritarianism: https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018/05/31/china-has-turned-xinjiang-into-a-police-state-like-no-other
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No. 5186
>>5176
Honestly a big problem with China's complete lack of respect for human or any other life is just the sheer scale, which is partly why very big societies get increasingly dysfunctional and alienating. I think this was partly the problem with Russia and America as well. China simply has too huge a scale to deal with in order to manage any better than the most inhuman and raw numbers calculating as possible. So I mean it's completely understandable for a country where just their chopstick usage alone is causing massive deforestation http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/15/opinion/la-oe-0815-gardner-chopsticks-20100815
>To keep up with demand, 100 acres of trees need to be felled every 24 hours. But efforts to restrain the use of disposable wooden chopsticks face many obstacles.
So yeah of course China wants to also limit land usage for burials. I'm sorry to make such an incredibly retarded low brow comment, but have you ever played City Skylines? Try it and watch how fast just a 100k city fills up cemeteries. You very quickly just want to prop up a bunch of small centrally located incineration units to process all the bodies, and that's exactly the kind of problem the Chinese face.

Of course, for similar reasons, China is also incredibly paranoid about any kind of social disharmony or disruption to their scheme, because imagine dealing with 1.4 billion angry or desperate people. You'd think that with better integrated information technologies and education this wouldn't be such a problem though with certain elements of policy, but regarding the modernist cities thread I see exactly the same situation which just cannot be avoided at a certain massive level of scale.
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No. 5187
>>5183
I kind of addressed this (and the Chinese are also simply incompetent to a degree--keep in mind these people were all just peasants a generation or two ago and had to rapidly industrialize from being a bombed out occupied more agrarian wreck after WWII and to this day struggle with any sense of quality control and not being retarded peasants) but again it is a problem of scale. As much as I fervently hate China with a passion and in particular their antichrist tier oppressive dystopia, keep in mind who they're dealing with here
>Turkic Muslims
The Chinese aren't going to put up with that shit. Everywhere you go, Islam has a tendency towards generating conflict and violence with its neighbors and societal division. China will just round up the entire town and execute them all rather than have to put up with some asshole delivering a message with a severed head about the fatwa against Chinese officials.

It kind of reminds me of the coverage in the West of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar. Of course what was neglected to be mentioned is that Al Qaeda was also operating in South East Asia and they had Islamic Jihad terrorism for decades
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Malaysia#Terror_groups,_members_and_attacks
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No. 5189
>>5187
The problem is that China has pretty successfully managed to swing global opinion on the East Turkestan Independence Movement towards the entire thing being hurka durka when that is just a single extremist party that has the same goal of independence. A lot of the dissatisfaction with China in that region has less to do with being an Islamic extremist and more to do with China trying to regulate their home lives and brainwash their younger generations. They're cracking down on schools teaching in the local languages for example, which is a good way to go if you are trying to detach a generation from the last one and tie it to the state. There are plenty of reasons for some locals to want full-blown independence that don't involve them beheading people under a black flag. It'd be a failed state for sure, but there is a lot more to the struggles there than just Muslims starting shit.
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No. 5198
>>5189
Oh no certainly I'm just pointing those things out. And as for stuff like trying to stamp out any language but the official one, America sorta half heartedly always has acted that way. We don't maintain actual multiculturalism here and we never did. It's expected you learn English and forgot whatever language. China is just a special kind of cruel, inhuman, heavy handed, and dystopian in everything they do. It's just that trying to be objective here, US is a shit, Islam is clearly a shit, and China is even more of a shit, so at the end of the day as a real American I honestly and unironically would actually side with actively funding Islamic terrorism throughout China if it would actually do anything other than create blowback and give their state more excuses to be authoritarian. I'm just pointing out that it's not entirely without cause, and also the fact that the way it's talked about as "just fighting terrorism" making it acceptable also speaks volumes about how far the West has fallen.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/how-to-survive-americas-kill-list-699334/
Apparently, not only can American citizens be executed by their government without trial now, but those kill lists aren't even hand selected for actual terrorists. They use a fucking sorting algorithm and waste hellfire missiles and innocent lives just trying to bomb anybody including journalists. And in my view, this is the country supposedly the "good guys".

Tbh if Europe could pull its head out of its ass would be for the best. It's the only power bloc on the planet that actually deserves to be supported.

Oh and also--this is very important--it should be noted that for decades now we've known about things like Night Train and Garden Plot and REX84, and the plan to set up these concentration camps on US soil was under the excuse of dealing with 400,000 "illegal immigrants". This is actually the number of American citizens to be rounded up but that's tangential to the point, which is that right now in this country we have that fat fucking disgusting asshole trying to do exactly that and openly talking about implementing martial law. Which only makes me hate Alex Jones more but everybody knew for a long time now that he was just another controlled opposition fraud anyway.
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No. 5199 Kontra
>>5198
Oh yeah the point of all that being, I can see the different angles of these things even if I also know part of it is Chinese propaganda, same way they talk about Tibet. Which to be fair it wouldn't be a bad thing if we could give Tibetans or Uighurs nukes to smuggle into Beijing with. I still consider China our top global enemy, far ahead of the US government, Jihadists, Putin's thieves and everyone else.
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No. 5207
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This guy[1] wins the Fields medal. Basically for making maths simpler. 6 years ago he was the youngest professor in the Germony with 24 years of age. The other 3 winners include a UK refugee.[2] Also the medal of the refugee was stolen a few minutes after he won it. I honestly don't know what to make of that, go figure.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scholze
[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/science-environment-45032422
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No. 5213
>>5189
>They're cracking down on schools teaching in the local languages for example, which is a good way to go

Most likely it will only create a fierce hatred against the Han in the Turk population.
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No. 5215
>>5213
That's sort of the implication I was going for. It's theoretically the way that you go about recruiting the youth of a population to central loyalty over regional, it's worked pretty well in Southern China after all, see all the pro-red action in Hong Kong and such but it works not quite so well when the locals already see you as very foreign rather than kind of foreign, which is why I think that it's particularly dystopian in East Turkestan. Our Brick knows a bit more about the specifics of Oralman migration from China because he's interacted with them, so maybe he can share some extra insight, but it seems like even amongst all the Turks getting shafted there, the Uyghurs have got it the worst because they don't have anywhere else to go. If someone there is ethnically Oirat, then they'll likely have family ties they can use in Mongolia, and the same is true of many of the other smaller groups like the Uzbeks, Kyrgyz and Kazakhs who also live there with their respective ancestral lands. I don't remember the policy for others, but Kazakhstan also has a pretty open 'right of return' policy to boot which sped up quite a bit last year when China made a few big crackdowns.
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No. 5232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyOjGwTd8ew

They don't say whether it needs to be the same kind of sand used in construction, but considering the images shown, it's not.
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No. 5268
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>>5232
Fracking requires a very particular type of sand that is both able to perform under incredibly high pressure but also allow oil and gas to freely flow through. The product is called 'Frac Sand' and denotes a particularly uniform structure made up of durable products like quarts stones which can be made (sometimes they use aluminium beads) or found in natural deposits on Earth.

Ordinary sand just won't cut it. Thankfully, as we're running low on the stuff.
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No. 5269
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/01/russian-journalists-killed-central-african-republic-investigating-military-firm-kremlin-links
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1025019017365520384

Recently 3 Russian journalists were killed in Central African Republic while investigating the work of Russian mercenary group Wagner ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group ) in the African country. Zhirinovsky, Russian MP and leader of Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, said this on state-owned TV-channel: "We should help honest people who work for Motherland, not 3 dirtbags. Let their parents pay to bring bodies back". The line of the host of the show: "No, let Khodorkovsky pay"
This guy is the most insane politician that I have seen, he often says things that would cause a scandal in a western country. Now imagine that you are a neighbor of a militaristic nuclear-armed country where such statements are acceptable by public and officials aren't afraid to pursue an interventionist foreign policy.
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No. 5270
>>5269
He honestly sounds like the dirtbag we presently have in office
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No. 5271 Kontra
>>5269

We all know Russia is ruled by a clique of sociopathic, hardened criminals. Can't help you there.
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No. 5272 Kontra
>>5271
Well, some of us can https://www.dvidshub.net/video/584540/t-72-weapon-system-video but I sincerely doubt that's going to fix anything about Russia itself. Is Navalny, supposing he isn't controlled opposition, even that much different ultimately? It is a shame too that their elites are now also dumb violent bydlo, just with Mercedes instead of drinking bath lotion. But this is little different from Ukrainian leadership either. Actually does anybody outside of a few countries in Europe and maybe ANZAC even have non-criminal retarded bydlo leaders? Not even South Korea is on that list.
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No. 5274
>>5272
Navalny sells himself as anti-corruption leader and he several times exposed corruption of high-ranking Russian officials. His video about corruption of Medvedev ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Is_Not_Dimon_to_You ), current Russian prime-minister and former Russian president, provoked widespread protests across the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%932018_Russian_protests
Corruption is the main factor hindering Russian development and the economy and Navalny sells himself as an anti-corruption leader. What Russia truly needs it's pluralism and big non-oppressed opposition that would expose the corruption of officials and hit the government with a big stick each time when Putin introduces laws helping the oligarchs. Russian intervention in Crimea and deterioration of relations with the US wouldn't be possible if there was a significant party in parliament opposing Putin. It's your fault that you didn't help to develop democracy in the post-Soviet republics during their greatest need in the 90s.
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No. 5275
>>5274
> Russian intervention in Crimea and deterioration of relations with the US wouldn't be possible if there was a significant party in parliament opposing Putin.
Russia doesn't need positive relations with us and is wise not to trust us, our intentions, or our government. As for Crimea, I really can't blame Russian paranoia especially after the West stabbed them in the back after 89-91 and just kept expanding NATO.
> It's your fault that you didn't help to develop democracy in the post-Soviet republics during their greatest need in the 90s.
How do you figure? I honestly am not well versed enough to have much a valid opinion, but what do you even mean by "help to develop" here? I know part of what we probably did was just economic looting and trying to open markets, which is all our leadership in any area ever seems to care about which is being unopposed in selling shit to other people. You look at things like Google just going along with Chinese censorship plans. The key thing to keep in mind here is that the American led West is absolutely 100% as completely evil and soulless as Soviets always warned about, it's just that they would jail or shoot you if you mentioned how they are also evil, godless, and also stupid. I think it is also a grave error to ever trust what people in America may say, because they ultimately have little control over what their own oligarchs do either. The random person may wish Eastern Europe well, and say how they support freedom and democracy, but the leadership itself just wants to castrate you and exploit you economically and if you ever complain at least can they use lube when they rape you they respond with 500 pound freedom bombs which will be targeting maybe a journalist and accidentally level an orphanage instead.

The problem with Russia and Russians is their only complaint is that decadent West rapes what it considers to be their things to rape and at least America probably won't also give you HIV in the process.
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No. 5276
>>4598
But why though? Is Israel or Russia blackmailing him with evidence he fucks children? Or is this simply their revenge for Yeltsin and trying to give us the worst, most embarrassing, most corrupt, most incompetent faggot they possibly can so they can kokoko about how weak and evil we are?
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No. 5279
>Russia doesn't need positive relations with us and is wise not to trust us, our intentions, or our government.
It's in Russian interests to have good relations with the only world's superpower. Russia was able to avoid the consequences of Russian-Georgian war exactly because your elites wanted good relations and didn't want to punish Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reset
>stabbed in the back meme
At the moment Russia is a country with 140mln people and whose GDP is smaller than South Korean/Italian/Spanish, the situation after the collapse of the USSR was even worse for them and they weren't in a position to demand anything from economically and military superiour countries. NATO expansion doesn't damage Russian interests because Russia doesn't has "sphere of influence" and your worldview is shaped by romanticism of Russian might and bittersweet reminiscence of Russian former glory. Russia isn't capable to maintain its influence purely to economic reasons, and military expansion of USA wouldn't be a threat to Russia if it was a democratic country trying to recover its economy instead of focusing on restoring its former empire. Ordinary Russians are driven by this revanchism, but their elites only exploite those feelings as a cover for the embezzlement of funds. Westerners have wrong worldview and still think that Russia is bigger than it's in reality, that's it's a superpower and Eastern Europe belongs to Russia. It isn't, Russia can't project it's power and the facade of mighty Russia and its "natural sphere of influence" is supported by your elites and military in search of an external enemy.
>How do you figure? I honestly am not well versed enough to have much a valid opinion, but what do you even mean by "help to develop" here?
IMF forgave Poland the whole external debt in the 90s and the major financial aid was given to Eastern European countries except of Ukraine, Belarus, Russia. USA could have send more experts and maintain political pressure in order to change inherited Soviet legislation and implement political reforms. Baltics and Poland were capable to reform on their own because they hated the Soviets and sincerely wished for changes and European integration, while communstic parties in the post-Soviet Ukraine and Russia still had great political power and were reluctant to reforms. You could have use your absolute political power and mighty economy to fund & support our liberals and push for reforms, that's how the US forced Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to give up the nukes in exchange for false security guarantees.
>I know part of what we probably did was just economic looting and trying to open markets
Do you understand that Soviet economy collapsed because it was inefficient, unproductive piece of subsidized shit which couldn't compete with Western goods without Soviet protectionism, not because a bunch of evil Westerners showed up and destroyed our industry? Gorbachev wouldn't try to reform planned economy if the Soviet industry wasn't outdated, stagnant and showed growth comparable with the growth of more developed Western economies.
Explain to me how "decadent West" rapes Russians. Russia could have achieved more prosperous economy if it respected the rule of law and tried to improve the business environment, instead they're paying for war in Donbas, Syria and sanctions.
>>5276
Russians hate you for the 90s. Russian liberals lost their power mainly because of huge drop in quality of life after the collapse of the USSR + Russians never were sympathetic to liberals, 70% of Russians voted against the collapse of the USSR in the 90s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991
The USSR collapsed against their will and we got independent countries full of authoritarian paternalistic communists who didn't want reforms.
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No. 5281
>>5279
The Bricks have had an anti-nuclear slant for a while thanks to social scarring from the memory of the Polygon. They were some of the first to have a serious anti-nuclear movement in the Soviet Union, and afterwards when they signed the Treaty of Semei, the US even opposed the Central Asian Nuclear Weapons Free Zone.
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No. 5285
>>5279
>that's how the US forced Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to give up the nukes in exchange for false security guarantees.
This is how I meant Russia would be stupid to trust us. They are not stupid enough to have trusted us, but for whatever reason you on the other hand were, or at least very naive at best. The absolute last thing I would ever do is give up my nukes for whatever petty promises of temporary security or safety or prosperity. What it immediately translates to is lack of independence, either now or further on down the line. Iran too would be stupid to ever trust us and should be building their own secret nuclear, chemical, and biological doomsday weapons to deter US and Israel from genociding and making prostitutes of them all. Notice how you guys listened to our sweet talk and in return literally are thought of as a nation of prostitutes who can't defend themselves having neither military nor economic nor political strength.

>Do you understand that Soviet economy collapsed because it was inefficient, unproductive piece of subsidized shit which couldn't compete with Western goods without Soviet protectionism, not because a bunch of evil Westerners showed up and destroyed our industry?
That's not what I was saying. I'm saying after the collapse it was like a bunch of vultures. Of course, among these vultures were Russians themselves.
>Russia could have achieved more prosperous economy if it respected the rule of law and tried to improve the business environment, instead they're paying for war in Donbas, Syria and sanctions.
How is this different than us? Russia isn't busily destabilizing entire regions. Part of Russia's problem was in caring too much about promoting ideologues, and filling their ministries with incompetents and ass kissers. I'm not sure "rule of law" whatever that's supposed to mean is the problem so much as incompetence which translates to corruption as well. Now they don't even bother promoting ideologues, only select ass kissers of thieves. If you meant international rule of law, that often translates to projection of American rule of law, everywhere from our war of terror to stupid drug wars to every manner of corruption and hypocrisy, right down to whenever the international community takes "the law" in earnest the US immediately flouts any semblance of rule of law. Oh, but we didn't forget about Poland to make some useless horror inflicted on Iraq sound like it wasn't a unilateral and basically illegal action. And when the international community's "rule of law" gets together on say Israel, how does US act?

It acts like a crying whiny fucking bitch and storms out of the room and says UN doesn't count. And the UN is headquartered in New York City, I might remind you. The "rule of law" means USA just lies better than Russia. Meanwhile my country has been training death squads and terrorists for decades, all saying it was "to stop Communism" and some muttering about muh freedoms, then when USSR goes away we quickly see it was always imperialist. You want to talk about such things, we can talk about how Libya was a functional country not too long ago. We can also talk about how Iran could have been an actual normal country and a democracy. We can also discuss how much of South America could have had functional democratic societies, but USA didn't want that.

So I'm terribly sorry you didn't get a US puppet dictatorship installed on your clay for whatever reason, probably mainly so as not to be too directly provocative towards Russia for the same reason Belarus was abandoned.

I do not defend Russia's ring of thieves. And I guess I can understand in terms of wanting to be part of the US led co-prosperity sphere, instead of the mud and shit and thieves and incompetence that comes with Russia. But I still get the impression you have a naive view of USA, as if things could be different had we "saved" you like Radio Free Europe broadcasts along with whatever propaganda you see in commercials.

And it is hard for me to say much economically, because I am poor and I watch the whole country get increasingly drained to our own oligarchs, and can't help but sense that some things the Communists said about us they were completely right about.
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No. 5287
>>5274
>What Russia truly needs it's pluralism and big non-oppressed opposition that would expose the corruption of officials and hit the government with a big stick each time when Putin introduces laws helping the oligarchs. Russian intervention in Crimea and deterioration of relations with the US wouldn't be possible if there was a significant party in parliament opposing Putin. It's your fault that you didn't help to develop democracy in the post-Soviet republics during their greatest need in the 90s.
Navalny is in favor of annexation of Crimea though. Russians never change :DD

>>5285
>Russia isn't busily destabilizing entire regions. Part of Russia's problem was in caring too much about promoting ideologues, and filling their ministries with incompetents and ass kissers.
The continued conflict in Donbass and Luhansk are just attempts at destabilizing Ukraine to punish it for having left Russia's sphere of influence, now Russia attempts to reassert some authority by controlling the intensity of a civil war in Ukraine's east.
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No. 5290
>>5285
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukos
Rule of law it's when the government doesn't harass business of its enemies using made-up reasons. Putin destroyed Yukos company and the state begin nationalisation of smaller companies, which resulted in a larger state participation in the market and combined with Putin's corruption this led to the enrichment of Putin and his friends at the expense of the state.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/263634/trade-balance-of-goods-in-russia/
https://www.focus-economics.com/country-indicator/russia/trade-balance
Russia enjoyed giant trade surplus after the rise of oil prices in 1998, but somehow it didn't benefit Russia as much as it should have been. Nationalised energy sector and high prices should have filled the state treasury, but the money disappeared. I wonder who could be behind this...
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No. 5291
>>5287
I know, but Navalny wouldn't order to intervene in Ukraine. He is nationalist supporting the idea of making Russia great again without damaging Russian economy.
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No. 5297
>>5291
Navalny actualy want left ukraine alone, since donbass is more problem for russia at this point than for ukraine. There was negativity from ukrainians around his words abour crimea and that he had some branches of his movment in crimea, but you need to remember that if he said somthing "wrong" about crimea in public, he will ended in prison because it is counts there as "extremism" and so on.
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Petrosyan and Stepanenko will have divorce
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>>5297
>There was negativity from ukrainians around his words abour crimea and that he had some branches of his movment in crimea, but you need to remember that if he said somthing "wrong" about crimea in public, he will ended in prison because it is counts there as "extremism" and so on.

I don't think it's just that. Navalny calls himself a nationalist, supported Russian action in Georgia and called for 'gogis' to be deported. He has also taken a hard line stance against what he calls the lawless north caucasus region. He also wants to limit immigration from the -stans. More importantly, he has argued for Russia's need to protect ethnic Russians abroad. The man really is a nationalist liberal, so the Crimea point falls in line with the rest of his ideas. I would agree that he's a good option for normalizing relations with Ukraine and is against the continued support of the self-proclaimed Republics in east Ukraine.
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No. 5303
>>5302
It is funny to see how can same facts may be intorpretate with people who don't know inthernal situation and reasons for some words and what they actually mean.

>supported Russian action in Georgia and called for 'gogis' to be deported
I don't remember any his words on this, but thought Georgia was first example of such proxy war, it was way more controversial than anything happen on Ukraine. Conflicts in south Caucasus (Nagorniy Karabah, Abkhazia and South Osetia) is direct result of actual crazy border changes in USSR in Stalin times, when borders in a lot republics was made that whay that if this republics leave, it immideatly spawn a lot of conflicts. Kinda leave-proof mechanism, since Stalin was against way USSR was constructed by Lenin with kinda-independed Republics. Abkhazians and South Osetians was autonomous regions inside Georgian SSR during USSR times, and their main conflict happened directly after fall of soviet union, and since than this regions, who was kinda independed was in kinda conflict with georgia. It was matter of time when this conflict rise again, and even thought Russia and mostly pootine goverment used it in 100% in their interests, reasons for this conflict are much more deep than "ruskies invided georgia".

>He has also taken a hard line stance against what he calls the lawless north caucasus region
North caucasus is absoluetly lawless poor piss of shit absoluetly objectively. It like small branch of crazy middle east inside russia, that russia actually not fully control. Well, it depend on region, but such things as Chechenyia and Ingushetia still in condition that actually worse than problem of Ukraine with Donbass even. War there never ended, chechenya under control of sultan Kadyrov who do absoluetly what he want, it actually independed terrorist states with absolute instability that pretend to be part of russian federation because pootine pays to Kadyrov hell lot of monies, but basicly first task of new russian goverment if it ever happen to be - be re-establishing any kind of law, order and peace in this region, and most probably it will requre full scale military invasion with destruction of basicly 90% of caucasus. I only hope that murricans and other DEMOCRATIC countries will not be against it, or they will spawn another Afganistan like they did once already and by recent actions in Lybia not learned any mistakes.

>He also wants to limit immigration from the -stans. More importantly, he has argued for Russia's need to protect ethnic Russians abroad.
He is not nationalists in therms of ETNIC RUSSIANS. He can't be, just because how much non-russians is in country. Real nationalists who say RUSSIA FOR RUSSIANS there as same as basicly Nazis and forbidden. Misunderstanding comes from not knowing therms and actual language, lol. Ruskie - is actual race of people. Rossiyane - citizens of Rossiyskaya Federačia, mean all Tatars, Yakut, Tuvins, Chechens, Ingushes, Finno-Ugric and so on and so on people. Did you know that we have -stans INSIDE RUSSIA? Bashkirtostan for example, or Tatarstan with Kazan is one of the main and richest regions after Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Basicly what he proposing is absoluetly not nazi RUSSIA FOR RUSSIANS, but he proposing Rossiya is for Rossiyans. And mostly for economical reasons. Central Asia republics (exept kazahstan which one okay and not far from Russia by conditions of life basicly) such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tadjikistan - are absolute tier shitholes, most often with banana-tier dicktatorships, that remain "loyal to russia" because they was builded on ruins of soviet systems and depend most times economicly on Russia. A lot worker migrants from this countries is thing that damage economics of Russia and working markets. And pootine goverment allowing all that crap and friends with this shitholes because mostly their world abitions of ZONE OF INFLUENCE AND REBUILDING USSR and because they have connections with elete of this republics, because all of them are from fallen soviet system or somewhere close and all of them orginised criminals by that point.
Navalny want to cut this connections with thish shitholes in favor of inthernal economy, and most people inside russia, and Russains, and Tataric, and even Uzbeks who live there very long and for a lot time actual citizens with their families of this country agree with that.

>so the Crimea point falls in line with the rest of his ideas. I would agree that he's a good option for normalizing relations with Ukraine and is against the continued support of the self-proclaimed Republics in east Ukraine.

He accepting that intervention in ukraine was planned and was absoluetly illegal. But at this point it abvious that Crimea never return to Ukraine, bad or good news it is. What Navalny proposed is start of open dialogue with Ukraine about this problem. As I know, what Ukraine want most nowdays - are accepting that intervention was illegal and war and territorial reparations for crimea. I think Navalny's goverment would be capable to agree with Ukraine statements and pay all monies they want, maybe also send free help and rebuilding everything that was destroyed in donbass region.
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>>5303
>He is not nationalists in therms of ETNIC RUSSIANS. He can't be, just because how much non-russians is in country. Real nationalists who say RUSSIA FOR RUSSIANS there as same as basicly Nazis and forbidden. Misunderstanding comes from not knowing therms and actual language, lol. Ruskie - is actual race of people. Rossiyane - citizens of Rossiyskaya Federačia, mean all Tatars, Yakut, Tuvins, Chechens, Ingushes, Finno-Ugric and so on and so on people. Did you know that we have -stans INSIDE RUSSIA? Bashkirtostan for example, or Tatarstan with Kazan is one of the main and richest regions after Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Basicly what he proposing is absoluetly not nazi RUSSIA FOR RUSSIANS, but he proposing Rossiya is for Rossiyans.

You misunderestimate my powerlevels in knowledge of Russia. I am well aware of the various ethnic groups within the Russian Federation.

Navalny has been for several years a participant in Русский марш. Yep, Ruskyi, not Rossyian march, as far as I know these are the "Russia for Russians" types. He was even kicked off Yabloko for nationalist activities.

>On June 23, 2007, Navalny co-founded a new political movement, named "The People", which upheld the positions of "democratic nationalism", defined as a fight for democracy and the rights of ethnic Russians;[46]

Also on the Gogi stuff:

>In 2008 during the Russo-Georgian War, Navalny called Georgians "rodents" (Russian: грызуны) and called for imposing of a complete blockade on Georgia and eviction of all Georgian nationals from Russia. He further stated that he very much wanted to strike the Georgian General Staff with a cruise missile.[195] In response to criticism, in 2013 Navalny said that he regretted calling Georgians rodents but stood by everything else he said at the time.[196]

Navalny on Ukrainians:

>Early in 2012, Navalny stated on Ukrainian TV, "Russian foreign policy should be maximally directed at integration with Ukraine and Belarus… In fact, we are one nation. We should enhance integration."[202] During the same broadcast Navalny said that he did not intend "to prove that the Ukrainian nation does not exist. God willing, it does". He added, "No one wants to make an attempt to limit Ukraine's sovereignty".[202][203] In October 2014, Navalny stated "I do not see any kind of difference at all between Russians and Ukrainians", he admitted that his views might provoke "horrible indignation" in Ukraine.[204] In 2015, he declared, "I do not take Ukrainians for a special sort of Russians and [I] do not deny the Ukrainian nation from its political subjectivity".[205]

Navalny seems to be a nationalist. An ethnic one. Not necessarily Gitler or anything, but such is my understanding. I still like Navalny and he would be a better leader for Russia than Putinka, but there is no need to paint him as something that he isn't.
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No. 5309
>>5303
I have never ever seen the idea of ​​renouncing Crimea from any Ukrainian official or Ukrainian media. It's possible to slightly restore relations, reintegrate Donbas and lift the trade restrictions between mainland Russia and Ukraine, but Ukrainians are as united and russophobic as never before, the state propaganda is going on 24/7 and it would require some really heavy mental gymnastics from the officials to convince the electorate that recognising Russian Crimea isn't a betrayal of Ukrainian nation. Maybe it would be possible to achieve some kind of agreement about independent Crimea in the style of the Free city of Danzing or Kosovo, but even pro-Russian Ukrainian officials never said that Donbas or Crimea should belong to Russia. First of all, it's a political suicide. Secondly, separatism is prosecuted by law, both in Russia and Ukraine.
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>>5309
I agree, in the current political climate it would be the worst possible zrada.
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>>5305
>Navalny has been for several years a participant in Русский марш. Yep, Ruskyi, not Rossyian march, as far as I know these are the "Russia for Russians" types. He was even kicked off Yabloko for nationalist activities.

Russkiy march is something that can't be described concreticly, actually. There no actual united Nazi or nationalist movment and a lot people who call themselfs Nationalists have absoluetly differend things. Some of them are really actual Nazis who hate "churkas" and "Слава Роду нет Уроду". Same time as Nationalist in this marches are a lot of Monarchists and other Imperialist who sill anti-putin even thought they are deaming about "Хруст Французкой Булки" and that Nicolas I tier crap with Otodoxy, Russian Culture and Trdatitions, Tsarism etc. (this one of the reasons why Romanov's black-yellow-white flag is symbol of nationalists) And same time there was a lot people who was just anti-soviet and anti-post soviet, who don't like current goverment system that grow up from remnats of fallen Sovok, also people who are moderate Nationalist, in meaning of that "Russia first" and outside politics is second, which is opposite to current Pootine politcis which contain mostly "global politics first, people inside will wait". However for me personally Navalny is much, much less nationalist than people like Maltsev for example.

>Also on the Gogi stuff:
A lot people back than was kinda upset with all that conflict and support Abkhasians and Osetins. Non-firendly politics of Georgia to Russia back than if I remember correctly with better aiming to the west, continue of that long running for 20 year territorial conflic, more good propoganda from Pootine side and for the fact that Pootine in the end decided not fully annex regions but make them as separate states, even thought they are kinda puppet states made whole conflict is much more "gray" than it happened with ukraine. Politics on public is interesting thing, since you responsable for ANY WORDS that you sayd from any period of your life. When I was much younger I also thought than in 2008 we was fully right and that georgians are assholes, I also had very low opinion on Ukrainians and was much more friendly to ideas of Soviet Union and it's propoganda, just because what information and what people surrounded me. When I know more information - I changing my thoughts on things. And because I not any kind of public persons nobody know or remember my previous thought and when I changing my mind everyone okay with it. But well if you famous person and you said something publicly... well, it will follow you for rest of your life. I honestely don't think Navalny nowdays have such strong position and may give more big commentary, somebody should re-ask this questiion to him in one of his live streams.

It is funny that this is reminded me of recent News - https://www.levada.ru/2018/08/02/rossiya-i-zapad-3/
Sociologists recorded a sharp increase of sympathy of Russians for the United States and Eurounion. If right after Crimea "Patrotic" mood across almost all people in Russia was high, everyone was ready to go to war against all west, screaming for support of pootine and re-establishing SOVIET EMPIRE whatever it means and was ready to cut of connections from west, supported our "contr-sanctions" that remaind people without a lot of medicine and quality food, but more it was going and more obvious started relising and campin on Ukraine failed, a lot people changed mind. Current border was Raising the Retirement Age - quality of life dropped to bottom and continue dropping and with that Pootine crossed the line where even a lot of Pootine supporters now upset with them too. Same happened with georgians - during this conflict most of russians thoughts about georgians was mostly negative. What Navalny said was thought of absolute majority of people about Georgia in 2008. But more years come by and more political situations changed, more improving people thoughts. Currently majority of people thought about Georgia neutral or positive.
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>>5313
>Same time as Nationalist in this marches are a lot of Monarchists and other Imperialist who sill anti-putin even thought they are deaming about "Хруст Французкой Булки" and that Nicolas I tier crap with Otodoxy, Russian Culture and Trdatitions, Tsarism etc. (this one of the reasons why Romanov's black-yellow-white flag is symbol of nationalists)
Sad settis because I really like the flag.

>Ukrainians and was much more friendly to ideas of Soviet Union and it's propoganda, just because what information and what people surrounded me. When I know more information - I changing my thoughts on things. And because I not any kind of public persons nobody know or remember my previous thought and when I changing my mind everyone okay with it. But well if you famous person and you said something publicly... well, it will follow you for rest of your life. I honestely don't think Navalny nowdays have such strong position and may give more big commentary, somebody should re-ask this questiion to him in one of his live streams.

Perhaps, although it's different to measure a politician's former(?) opinion compared to what a random ernstfriend believed when he was a teenager.
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>>5309
>>5305
>Early in 2012, Navalny stated on Ukrainian TV, "Russian foreign policy should be maximally directed at integration with Ukraine and Belarus… In fact, we are one nation.

>I have never ever seen the idea of ​​renouncing Crimea from any Ukrainian official or Ukrainian media. It's possible to slightly restore relations, reintegrate Donbas and lift the trade restrictions between mainland Russia and Ukraine, but Ukrainians are as united and russophobic as never before, the state propaganda is going on 24/7 and it would require some really heavy mental gymnastics from the officials to convince the electorate that recognising Russian Crimea isn't a betrayal of Ukrainian nation. Maybe it would be possible to achieve some kind of agreement about independent Crimea in the style of the Free city of Danzing or Kosovo, but even pro-Russian Ukrainian officials never said that Donbas or Crimea should belong to Russia. First of all, it's a political suicide. Secondly, separatism is prosecuted by law, both in Russia and Ukraine.

Crimean problem at current time created a much more complex issue, than just some peace of land that go from one country to another. About this actually Navalny said tbh, when he was asked about Crimea. Fact is that to resolving this problem will be not just some sort "okay is mine" or "okay you can keep it", and this is will be one of the main and one of the most hardest tasks for next Russian goverment. This will requre a lot of summits, conversations and other official meeting between RF and UA goverments, involving UN and other important world-wide political organisations. This also will requre adittional referendums - real referendums in Russia, Ukraine and Crimea itself because all previous ones not count as "real" or any "legal" ones.

On topic what Urainians and Russians think about each other: this is actual problem, not only about this conflict, but ethernal problem of both nations that gone thought history for a long time. And current ploitical situation not helps, but only making things worse. However, what counts on actual political propoganda in media, I may thay that it is not play as big role as some people may thought. It helps for some short time, but if it is not go to Stalin or 1984 or North Korea level, it not work as effective as it want to be. It may affect passive behaivor of humans, like modern media corporations in Holywood and Disney who making shit and making people eat it, but it far less powrfull on active side. As you can note in my previous post, even thought propoganda in russia even more powerfull every day, it affect opinion of people less and less, mostly because when more far from reality it is, less people will belive in it, and people also "tired" of things. Hate to the west was short fashion that everybody tired at this point, and recent economical situation help with end of this fashion.

However, as you also can see in same research on link, thoughts of Russians about ukrainians not changed that much, because in fact this misunderstanding comes from both sides comes from much more deep history than recent events. And this is real problem, that in my opinion we need to resolve, and the only way to resovle it - change mind and old thoughts of majority population of both countries. And this is most difficult task for both - Ukrainian and Russian goverments. However current and Russian and Ukrainian goverments is icompetent degenrate oligarchs, that still using soviet systems of rule and that corrupt as hell and make thing only worse every year.

I actually fully agree with Navalny - we are, eastern slavs, are one nation. Or nations that so close to each other that by nature should be united. However, what mostly Russians, but others too can't understand - that we need RESPECT EACH OTHER. Russians thought that because in some times of history we was more sucsessfull (mostly be power of universal random actually lol) we can by default threat Ukrainians and Belorussians as "children nations" that need be re-integrated (read: destroyed and transformed into modern russians) because there are not much difference between us, but Russians thought that they better in all ways, that Ukrainian language inferior to Russian and actually just some sort of russian dialect.

In my opinion, more fast we well understand each other, more fast we will respect each other traditions, difference in culture, language and behaivor - and count them as EQUAL - more fast we will resolve all our problems with each problems. From actual contempt for ukrainians when I was kid, I come to respect and undertanding. I like Ukraine and Ukrainians, and think that this little difference of us is not thing that should make us hate each other, but thing where we all can learn from each other. All East Slavs should be united, and all our culture heritage chould be non forbidden or separated or destroyed in favor of one, but should always co-exist, and make our overall society more powerfull and culturaly rich.

If I was some sort of rich or some sort of famous person, I'd created some sort of party or political movment or even cultural society for union of all East Slavs, created propoganda of respect each other, making cultureal centers where people can learn more about culture and language of other brother east slavic people. I have ukrainian heritage in my blood, my best friend in Ukrainian and I proud of that. I like history both of Northen and southern Principaties, and I always trying to understand point of view of ukrainians and belorussians on problems, that they see differently. In my opinion Crimea and Donbass is thing that in future should not divide us, but opposite, tight us together.

I like idea of Independed crimea.. however not independed, but Imagine if both of our countries had competent modern non-corrupt goverment that see in future. We may form some sort of alliance, and Crimea can be one of first regions of this allience - you know, region that ruled by both goverment, that Ukrainian and russian same time, place where we all can go easely from both of countries and region in which both of goverments invest to develop it.
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>>5315
>Sad settis because I really like the flag.
Yeah, with cost of arms it look cool. But it clearly had german infuence because of connection of Romanovs with Germany, if I know it right and I think personally I have more negative opinion about most of Romanovs, than positive.

And itme, I learned to respect white-blue-red flag that we have now. Even thought is is more "zashkvared" than anything and looks meh and by legend was actually just turned backwards dutch trade flag, it have more in common with actually representing russia as country, than Romanov's flag of long dead dynasty or communist flag of political party and movment. However, a lot people even prefer 1991-1993 flag with slightly different colors, and I understand why. It looks more plesant to see and colors overall better and this flag far less "zashkvared" than others, and more than others represent actual hope.

I also like not accepted full coat of arms of Ukraine, it reminda me of coat of arms of my city also not accepted

>Perhaps, although it's different to measure a politician's former(?) opinion compared to what a random ernstfriend believed when he was a teenager.
We should not forget that politicans are people too, even thought they do public work. We all humans, and I trust Navalny in that case, because I understand that I past thought same shit but growed up.

>(?)
I hope, my current social-political views are far more complex than just notalgia of adults around me of past greit times, and I try more follow actual hopes on future and current problems, than on symbols and flags of long gone past. I like Romanov flag and coat of arms, but in political ways it means for me less even than Imperium of Man Aquilla.
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No. 5330
Putin's "polite citizens" have a base in Slovakia now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45019133
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>>5320
>I hope, my current social-political views are far more complex than just notalgia of adults around me of past greit times, and I try more follow actual hopes on future and current problems, than on symbols and flags of long gone past. I like Romanov flag and coat of arms, but in political ways it means for me less even than Imperium of Man Aquilla.

I like the Romanov flag because I'm an assburger Russophile who really likes the Russian Empire. As a thing to read about, I'm under no dellusions of how life was like for the average Russian. I have the same attachment to Soviet related things. Even though I very anti-gommie

Russia, in general, interests me especially its history. It's a fascinating place, I feel a compelling urge to know more about Russia. Also thankful Î'm not Russian :DDDD
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No. 5332
>>5330
"polite citizens" is meme for Army, this guy are actually clowns.
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No. 5333
https://www.dw.com/en/perus-vast-lithium-discovery-a-risky-economic-boon/a-44936017

http://www.mining.com/peru-unit-plateau-energy-finds-one-worlds-largest-lithium-resource/

Expect to see many more of such news in the future. Lithium is the new gold, and there will be a global rush for it soon. So you can expect search for lithium happening everywhere, here in BR too, they found a small deposit in Minas Gerais last year.

http://www.mining.com/peru-unit-plateau-energy-finds-one-worlds-largest-lithium-resource/
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No. 5334 Kontra
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No. 5339
http://www.mining.com/web/coke-meth-booze-flip-side-permian-oil-boom/
>The Permian shale play in West Texas is once again booming with drilling and is full of oil field workers, some of which are abusing drugs and alcohol to help them get through long shifts, harsh working conditions, and loneliness and isolation.

>At the beginning of a long or overnight shift, they would use ‘uppers' like cocaine and methamphetamines, and finish the shift with ‘downers' such as prescription medication or alcohol
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>>5317
Slight blogpost but the distaste Russians and Ukrainians have these days is sad for me to read about. 10+ years ago I had a Ukrainian internet friend who lived in Russia but was born on the border between the two countries and served in the Russian army. The relationship the two countries had seemed a lot like the relationship between England and Wales of some friendly rivalry with historic differences but lots of cross border links.

It bums me out because at the time I was in the army and we shared war stories with him having been Chechnya and his father in Afghanistan. We lost touch but thinking about it he may well be dead now. Joint sovereignty of Crimea is out of the question if you ask me considering the way Russia went about it. It is also inevitable at this point that Ukraine will be integrated into NATO just as Georgia is and with that geopolitical interests will make proper peace quite impossible.

>>5331
>I like the Romanov flag because I'm an assburger Russophile who really likes the Russian Empire.

Natalia pls. be my gf
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No. 5362
>>5331
> I have the same attachment to Soviet related things.
Soviet union was far from any defenition of Communism, but it have it's own style and atmosphere that even now interesting and for many people very nostalgic. However I'd defenetly will not go back in SU. However, a lot people there want it, and it's not surprise considering that russia managed to become worse by some of life standarts, production, army and many other things than soviet union in like many levels and now close to defenition of "third world country".

>>5361
>Joint sovereignty of Crimea is out of the question if you ask me considering the way Russia went about it. It is also inevitable at this point that Ukraine will be integrated into NATO just as Georgia is and with that geopolitical interests will make proper peace quite impossible.
Nah, don't be all shure about all that. It is current politics and all this things are far from monolit-strong condition how it was during cold war era where everyone know what happen next. Ukraine still same post-soviet shithole as russia with same oligarh-corrupted goverment where a lot of people remain the same that was before maidan and they not managed achive anything, and looks like next president of Ukraine may become Timoshenko with reverse absoluetly everything like it is before. Pootine goverment reputation weaker and weaker every year inside country after "boost" of Crimea and now returned to level of 2011-2012 where everyone hated it, but unlike 2012 I don't think Pootine will manage to resolve it because santions, hate from all other world and absoluetly shit economy situation.

There possibility even for my scenario to happen, at least I remian optimistic about it. If connections between Russians and Ukrainians will broke, it will be very, very sad for me because there are still time we can fix it. However, whatever it will end and turn on, I wish ukrainians sucsess if they will manage to achive it Imagine Wales, Scotland and Ireland join China military alliance and build wall on your border and drop all connections to England X---DDDD
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>>5303
>I only hope that murricans and other DEMOCRATIC countries will not be against it,
YES! do it Ivan, bomb the shit out of them!
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No. 5388
>>5373
Have you watched White Sun of the Desert?
It's somewhat about Russian civil war in Turkestan.
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No. 5410
>>5388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erABk3zHSFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqnqFhc9aho
On my list now. Watching that first clip it is depressing how much you remind me of us.
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No. 5414
>>5410
Interesting. What have you found in the first clip so it reminded you?
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No. 5428
>>5414
It's just this sort of cowboy almost British attitude towards "civilizing the world and bringing them dignity and freedom" despite the fact it's just horrible imperialism. If you had shown me this without the uniform and the sound off, I honestly would've suspected this was some weird 50s or 60s American film, the only difference being some remark about the workers (giving a shit about the workers and poor people doesn't even figure into our propaganda so much). It is very much a "global league of the revolutionary forces of liberty and freedoms" thing for which we are known, or at least masquerading as.
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No. 5469
>>5428
Well, both the communist ideology and the ideas behind the creation of the USA are products of the same "stream of conscience" inspired by the utopian ideas of the Enlightenment philosophers and reform theology and pedagogy, so similarities in how they propagated "their project" to the masses might not come too surprising.
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Sorry for twitter as source, but it made me giggle quite a bit.
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No. 5561
>>5559
We should make Arnold Schwarzaneggar our diplomat to Russia next
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No. 5564
>>5561
At least Schwarzenegger is a pretty smart and charismatic guy and a serious politician.
Seagal is a fat wannabe Martial Artist, i guess the right equivalent to him would be Chuck Norris.

Some real news source:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Russia-Actor-Steven-Seagal-Improving-US-Ties-490093641.html
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>>5561
>>5559
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Kozhevnikova
I hope that you will continue to laugh when these people vote for the invasion of the Baltic republics.
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>>5565
Actors, musicians or athletes in politics aren't exactly a new thing and just because of their previous career those people don't have to be dumb and unable to do so, but Steven Seagal is really a dumb person, that's the funny thing here.
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Putin's approval rating is melting again. The Russian pension reform, which increased the Russian retirement age for men above average life expectancy, from 60 to 65 year for Russian males whos average life expectancy is only 64 years, backfires on its creators. The Russian life expectancy from 1965 to 2015 grew only by seven months in total. Yes, seven months after 50 year, not seven months a year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Originally it was Medvedev who proposed the reform during the Russian World Cup in June, while the population's attention was diverted by football. Medveved already had bad reputation thanks to the Navalny's video and it's obvious that he was used by Putin as a scapegoat and puppet in one person, to push the law hated by many and make the population blame anyone but Putin. In July, after a month of Russian outcry, Putin finally commented the law and said that he "doesn't like the reform". A typical attempt to play a "the good tsar, the bad boyars" card, when it became obvious that people are ready to resist.
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No. 5630
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Meanwhile in Bologna, Italy.
Supposedly a fuel truck exploded.
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No. 5636
>>5615
>from 60 to 65
Russia's retirement age is still better than America's.
https://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/planning-to-retire/articles/2016-06-10/the-most-popular-ages-to-retire
My parents didn't retire until after age 66. Some people never retire. Actually being able to retire at age 60 would be some kind of amazing utopian thing to me.
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No. 5640
>>5636
>Russia's retirement age is still better than America's.
Your quality of life and work is like far, far from anything we have.
My mom is 50, but she by health is like "near dead" condition. He work like slave on shitty job in supermart and always tired. And we all still poor as hell.

>>5615
>Putin's approval rating is melting again.
Old news already, even not long ago you seen probably that news about I posted that people again start like USA and even EU there.

From reality, not from poor pools that often show nothing (levada as I know not that independed now), at least around mine family, firends, their friends, people on streets - pootine raiting is currently sub zero. That world cup championship not work that much how they was planned.

Meme with retirment age is that pootine can't avoid that. The stealed and spended all that monies to make rouble not drop beyond bottom, and finansing at least some project, and if they don't done that law they had no monies to pay for people who already in retirment. But it was double edge sword, because ootine damaged in heat of his supporters, who actually almost all in near-retirment age or already old people
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No. 5642
>>5640
>My mom is 50, but she by health is like "near dead" condition. He work like slave on shitty job in supermart and always tired. And we all still poor as hell.

What do you mean by 'near dead'? Does she have end stage liver disease or CKD? COPD?
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No. 5644
15 kB, 300 × 225
>>5642
If say short and metaphoric, she is like that bus.
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No. 5646
>>5636
Russians live nine years less than Americans and they pay mandatory 26% income tax to the state pension fund. After the reform many Russians will not be able even to survive to retirement. If you're a male, want to work for $500 a month all your life and die at 64, the year before your retirement, then welcome to Russia.
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No. 5647
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No. 5649
>>5644
So she needs a paint job?
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No. 5655 Kontra
>>5649
Very funny
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No. 5662
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-military-aid-to-israel-set-to-exceed-3-8b-or-23000-per-year-for-every-jewish-family-living-in-israel/5649698

The world's best goy fulfills the promises. I didn't know that Muricans were ready to pay $550 million more for Israeli missile defense system, what a truly wonderful ally! I like that the Republicans were constantly crying about the state deficit, and they suddenly forgot about it when Trump became president, cut taxes, increased military budget, gave even more free shit to Israel and began trade war. Is it some kind of a long-term strategy to force the next democratic leadership to deal with the consequences and rise taxes or destroy Obamacare at the expense of their own popularity?
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No. 5664
>>5640
>work like slave on shitty job in supermart and always tired.
I have news for you, that is the settis for most of America. I also know exactly what that feels like working for bullshit pay with completely uncertain economic security and being too tired to even watch TV or play a game by the time you get home and maybe rinse all the filth off you. I have a college degree too.
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No. 5665
>>5662
Yes, literally everybody except edgy faggot children right wingers knew this, that Republicans are absolute scum. They also like to pretend to be all "family values" but are in fact some of the sleaziest people in high office. Like being a child molester, cheating on your second wife while she's dying of cancer, paying hush money to porn stars and hookers, these are among the things typical of the highest ranking Republican politicians. It is basically like with Putin, a small clique of thieves half of whom are Jewish oligarchs lying and being utter scum who fuck the country and especially the poor even harder yet for some reason the poor bydlo seem to enjoy getting fucked. Also funny you notice the deficit spending. Every single Republican politician for decades squanders the nation's wealth like this. Every single time, without fail, they blow through any surplus we had and manage to actually balloon costs and expand into serious deficit spending while magically also being sure the average person sees even less benefit from it. In America Republicans are the sit on a bottle for Putin party. I don't know why so many faggots and morons kept supporting this shit on the KC. And yes typically American leftists don't like Israel but for some bizarre reason Republicans just can't suck Israel's cock hard enough no matter what, even when they get caught selling our military secrets to rival or enemy foreign powers or get caught bombing our own ships and military.
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No. 5681
240 kB, 480 × 360, 0:06
>>5665
>Republicans are scum!
>scum!!!

Hillary spammer, you have to go back to the Young Turks channel
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No. 5687
>>5681
This is not cabbagechan nor pol you low IQ shitposter Nebraska. I notice how now you've taken to just spamming your completely unrelated video links as responses to random threads and posts now. Regardless you've not refuted one thing I've said, namely in response to the Ukrainian saying pretty much the same.
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No. 5700
>>5665
This has become obvious for everyone who followed the longterm development in US politics, in my case since the 80s. The damage Republicans have done to the people of the USA is unbelievable, but still many fall for their shenanigans.
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No. 5720
>>5700
The actual problem: Dems didn't even do better. But if they tried they did the jfk
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No. 5722
>>5720

True, true. Whenever they got in power they didn't revert any of the idiotic politics their republican predecessors initiated.
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No. 5742
>>5720
This is also true and evident in the fact there were only three candidates and for strange reason everyone pretended like there were only two running and the third guy was completely ignored and given zero coverage. Then the DNC somehow fixed it, I think probably because certain interests didn't want Sanders for fear of him actually doing meaningful reforms whereas the rest were terrified of Trump winning so they ran a "anybody but Trump" shenanigan on the voters because of fear a Jewish "Socialist" (really he's just your average European SocDem like they have in normal countries) turning off too many voters. And then they ran someone unpopular against a guy who by all rights should have been completely unelectable, and still lost.

So yes, our politics in general are trash. And these people have the gall to bitch about political freedom in other countries. We basically have United Russia party--piss Cola edition vs United Russia party--shit burger edition. But the irony is that the Republicans seem to have more of a sincere democratic way of choosing their candidates to run in the general election. Although we had something kinda similar with Dems in 2008 running fun people like Kucinich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSRWRbuMqyc
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No. 5771
56 kB, 699 × 393
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/08/out-frying-pan-fire-new-ebola-outbreak-congo

One week after celebrating the end of a potentially explosive Ebola outbreak in Équateur province in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), Peter Salama received startling news: It was time to again pack his bags and help mount yet another counterattack against an apparently new outbreak in the same country.

Salama, an Australian epidemiologist who heads the Health Emergencies Programme of the World Health Organization (WHO) and is based in Geneva, Switzerland, says he is “more concerned” about the new outbreak—in North Kivu province, 2500 kilometers east by road of the previous one—because it appears to be growing rapidly, has already reached a city, and is in a conflict zone with many armed insurgents and refugees.

On 4 August, 4 days after the official declaration of the new outbreak, a DRC Ministry of Public Health report tallied 13 confirmed Ebola cases, 30 probable cases, 33 suspected cases, 33 related deaths, and 879 contacts. Initial analysis of the virus shows that it’s the Ebola Zaire species, one of four that cause disease in humans. Although that’s the same one that spread in Équateur, there’s no evidence of a link between the two outbreaks.

Update, 7 August, 11:45 a.m.: Sequencing of the virus has now confirmed that it’s the Ebola Zaire species, and that there is no link between the two outbreaks. Vaccination could start as early as 8 August, Salama tweeted today.
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No. 5793
52 kB, 492 × 350
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/05/social-media-regressing-children-mentality-three-year-olds-says/

Prominent British brain scientist says the constant gratifications of social media and gaming will produce a generation that is incapable of an internal narrative and quiet internal personal thought and reflection, and this will mean they will all be arrested at the three year old’s level of development
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No. 5797
1,3 MB, 2048 × 1536
38 kB, 354 × 460
>>5793
>and gaming
>produce a generation that is incapable of an internal narrative
You know, when I play 4x games or hell just about any game I'm making a narrative. I used to have epic stories that spanned months as my toys were fighting each other as a kid, until finally I gathered them together at like age ten or eleven and concluded their epic conflict by saying "I'm sorry, but I can't believe in you. You no longer exist". When I play a 4x I'm pretty much making epic internal narratives as each planet struggles with worldwide war and alien invasion and commentary on what's going on politically between the empires and spies from minor factions reporting to another empire and so on. So, no, in that regard it enables the kind of internal narrative that I can kept making up as it lulls me to sleep.
>personal reflection
eh yeah well I've done plenty of that, as well as focusing on humanity and the broader questions. It has ultimately just made me an angry bitter cynic, although I should probably re-embrace my better qualities.

As for the bydlo, well bydlo gonna bydlo. There's no fixing or changing that regardless of the ideology or even the technology. The closest you could get is just letting them live in peace with nature in a small comfy village, as we were naturally evolved to be inclined to do.
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No. 5817
>>5797
>bydlo gonna bydlo
This. People who prefer simple pleasures like getting wasted, watching football and beating up their wifes and kids to "internal narratives" and "personal reflections" always existed and will never cease to exist. Social media didn't change anything in people, it just undid the veil of pretense and showed them as they really are: shallow mindless creatures obsessed with social status and constantly pursuing whatever makes them feel good. And I don't really think it's a bad thing, because phoney intellectuals don't improve the society either, no matter what they think about themselves.
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No. 5976
https://www.islamische-zeitung.de/19-millionen-menschen-mit-migrationshintergrund-in-deutschland/

Now Germany is 1/4 non-german, either they go nazi again or soon there won't be any germans left.
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No. 5977
>>5976
>either they go nazi again
It would be extremely painful. Germans should be glad that we didn't genocide you in 1945.
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No. 5978
>>5977
It was more of a hyperbole, I think there are no good conditions for real fascism in germany and not to mention that we're living in completely different times with other kind of conflicting groups. But the atmosphere is really beginning to heat up, so what do I know. However that was not the original intention of my post, I don't care much about it.

Rather I'd to like discuss what it would look like if ethnic german people will actually die out which I wouldn't find very surprising. There are good chances that even without ethnic germans german culture would still survive in a new form as a great part of non-germans is assimilated and doesn't know more or less about it than the native germans themselves (which is not hard though, as schools and denazification did a great job stripping off the german people of their identity). Deutsch actually means the language of the people, so even if the people change the language and culture is not doomed to die. There isn't even much to lose anymore as most authentic and traditional german culture is lost anyways. I wonder what the new german culture will look like. I mean, even this would be somewhat romantic as the status quo lets me rather think that there won't be any cultures at all anymore, only empty phrases that a merely more than names for essentially the samd kind of globalized materialistic people.
A sad outlook.
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No. 5991 Kontra
>>5976
>menschen mit Migrationshintergrund
>non-german

Enjoying your simple world-view, Mister?
Those aren't 19 million refugees who can't speak german. Stop the scare mongering, please.
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No. 5992
>>5978
What do you identify as "german culture"? How far would you go back? If you are thinking about pre WW1, then you'll run into the problem of differentiating between prussian culture, the rhine land, bavarian culture, etc. Not too long ago there was no unified German identity.
I agree that there is not much German identity left today due to continuous dissolve of national thinking over half a century. That kind of narrows down "German identity" to the period between unification under one Kaiser and defeat in WW2.

Pesonally I'd get the fuck out of here if that kind of "German identity" is coming back.
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No. 5996 Kontra
46 kB, 445 × 372
>>5978
>authentic and traditional [...] culture

Oh man, every human that is obssesed with "their peoples culture" will say the say same, africans, asians, europeans,caribbeans americans, doesn't matter

for you
http://docupedia.de/zg/Authentizit%C3%A4t_Version_2.0_Achim_Saupe
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No. 6014
>>5991
I'm just sticking to what is real, any turk in third generation, russian or pole will be able to tell you if he is german or not and most of them will talk about Deutsche and Ausländer and not Menschen mit Migrationshintergrund.
If you want you can believe that those people are germans, I don't.
I'm thinking about ancestry and lineage, you don't just become german by being randomly born here because your parents moved here. Some people might tell migrants exactly that but in their hearts both of them know that the ethnic differences are too strong to just be ignored.
Sure there are not all arabs, but they are far away from being seen as germans. I mean, you know that every single one of the migrants has his own cultural and ethnical background which mostly is definitely not german?
Also there are people in this country who live here since centuries and there are people in this country who live here since just a few years. If you'd a migrant or son of migrants yourself you would maybe feel the difference much more than as a german. As a non-german you would know that you're not part of it, easy as that.

>>5992
I'm well aware of the problems appearing when talking about a german culture. Still prussians, bavarians etc. all spoke german for a thousand years, it doesn't really matter to me if they were united as one nation or not. It's kind of relativistic to compare different german groups with different cultural specialities to arabs, africans and slavs. If you have a common language that gives you a common ground of culture, history and literature.

>>5996
So what? I don't think worse or better about any kind of culture and I'm not obsessed with culture of my people. Just because all cultures think of themselves as authentic it doesn't mean that they'd be wrong, au contraire they're rather all right. Every culture is like a unique flower with different kind of physical appearances and lifetimes but in the end they are all flowers but still different.
It's interesting that you think that just because it is a common thing to see your own culture as authentic it would be less of a truth.
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No. 6017
>>6014
So, how many generations of people located in Germany do you need in your lineage to be a German?
And what if 1 parent is German by your definition and 1 is not, is the child German? Is there a Migrationshintergrund?
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No. 6018
>>6014
>It's interesting that you think that just because it is a common thing to see your own culture as authentic it would be less of a truth.

The problem is that every culture is based on mixture and adaption and is in constant change, there is no authentic base culture.

People from 1700 Germany would laugh or react in disgust about German culture from 1300 eventually. Not to say something like Germany did not really exist back then.
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No. 6039
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/10/us/politics/trump-turkey-tariffs-currency.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/worried-about-turkey-heres-what-it-will-take-to-push-wall-streets-buttons-2018-08-10

Turkey's economic situation is about to turn into a full blown crisis, and Trump might be the one doing the final push thanks to Turkish-US relationships becoming sour.
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No. 6043
271 kB, 617 × 752
>>6039
Sometimes I'm sad that there are no Turkish vatniks on imageboards.
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No. 6047
>>6043
I can assure you there probably are (most likely on a certain cancerous American IB and their own Turkish IBs) and that they're probably even dumber than the Russian ones or fatniks.
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No. 6060
>>6018
There is a common memory of the people, a common history, a common language, a common religion, common traditions etc. So please spare me with your leftist postmodernist shit. Sure it develops over time and might change drastically but that's part of any culture. Now I don't really care if it will change a lot due to Islam knowing that the bodies of leftists and other degenerates will be the first ones to dangle from bridges when the law of sharia is applied. Cheers!
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No. 6062 Kontra
>>6060
>a common history, a common language, a common religion, common traditions

stop throwing around words that imply complex structures and thought

What is common history supposed to be? History is fought over since I don't know how many years and you say it's something anybody will agree on any time. The fact that I disagree with you shows that very well. It's not something modern.

Think about all that stupid clay discussions...

Language, ok. But it's nothing essential either, you even said it develops, so how can you imply it's essential? It's nothing authentic because it does not really have a base core that exists on its own, indo european language is authentic then?

>a common religion

germanic tribes have not been very christian, I think they were more authentic germans than we are... we adapted some religion from the levant jewish roots, and you say it is typical german culture, lel. It's nothing essential german, lots of other cultures have adapted it.

>common traditions

I rarely have anything in common with bavarians except what I have in common with italians or other westerners

I think you could say there is a common way of thinking but even that is not true, as societies have always fought about that either, it might have taken longer periods than in "faster" times of modernity

real nationalism came up in the 19th century in germany, so whats authentic about all the times before, when people didn't gave a fuck about germany but saw themselves as something different? you wanna tell me it was always inside of them? essential? no, it had to be created in some way. Maybe people were jelly of france. or the holy spirit.
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No. 6065
Videogame thread or news thread?

>Germany lifts ban on Nazi symbols in video games

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/08/09/germany-lifts-ban-nazi-symbols-video-games/
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No. 6099
17 kB, 419 × 139
Apparently brexit leavers are now switching seats on the issue
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/11/more-than-100-pro-leave-constituencies-switch-to-remain of course, said politicians are likely all the same vote prostitutes who change with the breeze (not that this is a bad thing in a democracy, if anyone really had one)

Question: does Boris always look this daft? I have never once seen a clip or image of him appearing genuinely competent.

>“The sands of public opinion are shifting and politicians risk falling behind. Our research shows that the deal must be put to the people. Westminster should legislate for a people’s vote on the Brexit terms, giving the public the option to stay and build our future on our current deal with the EU.”
And why do people keep acting like they can have a second vote? I thought that this was permanent and that they already crossed the deadline and are now locked into it?
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No. 6112
266 kB, 1024 × 768
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>>5647
1) what are they saying?
2) what is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gn9G_s4LXo and why do Russians seem to love Colorado so much?
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No. 6129 Kontra
>>6099
pffffff what a mess
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No. 6131
1,5 MB, 212 × 320, 0:21
>>6099
I must say i feel some real Schadenfreude over this chaos.
I just hope they don't stay in the EU, i want to see how it ends.
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No. 6133
>>6062
You' know, much as you're toying with an imbecile here I think it's wrong to assume that a German culture doesn't exist. As an outsider I can certainly see a unified German culture at work(regional and class exceptions only adding to this complex structure). This is even just coming from someone who isn't all that culturally removed but still sees a horrifyingly blunt professionalism in comparison to my culture of banter.

It would perhaps be best for you to think about British culture rather than your own or try spending significant time abroad to notice differences. I don't think anyone would deny that integrating as a first generation is hard precisely for this reason and it poses real questions over the German future.

Also lol@ the notion of Syrians/Sudanese speaking German or being in any way primed for life in Germany. You’d be more likely to hear French and see them rock up to a meeting 20 minutes late.

>>6099
>Researchers at the Focaldata consumer analytics company compiled the breakdown by modelling two YouGov polls of more than 15,000 people in total, conducted before and after Theresa May published her proposed Brexit deal on 6 July.
>It combined the polling with detailed census information and data from the Office for National Statistics. The study was jointly commissioned by Best for Britain, which is campaigning against Brexit, and the anti-racist Hope Not Hate group.

This is more than a little dubious.

It should be obvious enough that YouGov has classic sampling issues as all it's responses are made by mouth breathers who set up YouGov accounts. The companies long running project to track Brexit sentiment has also become more of an indication of government popularity by the phrasing of questions ("Do you think Brexit is going well?” etc.)

This gets to a fundamental problem with the sandal-wearing second referendum campaigners in that they are unwilling to adapt a message that already failed. ‘Hope not Hate’ has absolutely no business in this when the issue should be in convincing those that voted leave.

>does Boris always look this daft?

Yes, and it's key to his strength given people underestimate him. Have a look at where he is sitting right now and ask yourself if he hasn't played his hand perfectly.
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No. 6135
I forgot to add:

>>6099
>And why do people keep acting like they can have a second vote? I thought that this was permanent and that they already crossed the deadline and are now locked into it?

There is nothing to say that a referendum is permanent, just that by convention it can only be overturned by a later one. If Leave had won then leave voters would still want to leave the EU just as the SNP still look for Scotland to leave the UK.

But in more practical terms there are democratic issues at work as the sitting government will soon make some fundamental changes to the countries constitution as a result of leaving. The position of the government is that they are negotiating international treaty (the purview of governments) however the EU is a sinister octopus creature that has infiltrated all levels of power - thereby to leave alters domestic legislation (including the relationship to regional governments).

"but why didn't Parliament block the EU Withdrawal Act then?"

Because politicians brave enough to do so were effectively conflicting with the will of the British people and undermining Britain's negotiations with the EU. Also Labour is wank.

t.remain voter
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No. 6137
>>6133
>I think it's wrong to assume that a German culture doesn't exist

And yet this culture is not like a rock is what I'm trying to say. I don't deny culture. Thinking about "our" culture 50/100 years back and it was already quite different.
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No. 6147
>>6137
Oh I'm sure we can all agree that cultures are journeys but that doesn't stop them holding a continuity of concept. Ship of Theseus* and all that. The classic question is when does this concept come undone?

-If we borrowed from Archaeological Culture then a sudden migration of a range of new ideas/items has a completely different impact to natural generational replacement. I'd say this is recognisable given everyone can still connect with their grandparents but wouldn't exactly call a hookah or the niqab an object from home.

-If we borrowed from traditional German citizenship then we'd look at blood which is clarified by post-1990 limitations as something objectively bound to ways of life and language. Again we see the importance of a certain continuity -with proficient language I would add demanding a familiarity with a peoples mode of thinking.

My own opinion is that national culture is important as a common story and vision of the future that allows people to cooperate and understand one-another. This is an old but important argument to make as without such concepts we fall into either American-style regime worship or back into familial primacy with it’s paradoxical attack on individual freedom and popular mobilisation (think of workers rights in our age of neo-liberalism).

*title of good Indian film if you can find it btw
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No. 6149 Kontra
>>6147
>familial primacy with it’s paradoxical attack on individual freedom and popular mobilisation (think of workers rights in our age of neo-liberalism).

I did not understand that one.
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No. 6161
>>6149
When identity starts to fail people revert back to family connections much as a weak rule of law necessitates honour codes. Think of crime families in Italy, Russia and Japan that emerged in periods of poor social trust and historical socio-economic dislocation or how in Africa your tribal decent decides everything.

After all, who else can you trust and who else will reliably scratch your back when ordinary social trust dies? You can see this trend across global history and it is something that only really declined with the emergence of enlightenment ideals expressed in nationalism whether ethnic or (in the American exception) civic. Fukuyama coined the phrase "tyranny of cousins" when describing this trend as the default state of human society where family monopolises power for it’s own interest and it largely expands upon Huntington's own point of social order.

Needless to say it is a bad thing. Not only because corruption hurts everyone but because families become an oppressive force on your personal life. As time goes on it also becomes impossible to stand up to entrenched power if only those directly affected or a particular class see reason to fight back. So you either end up with a strong man or an oligarchy which in our times is an especially terrifying thought given the current paranoid attitudes of the mega-rich (https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1).
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No. 6302
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No. 6307
Russian communications, IT and mass media control agency (Roskomnadzor) has explained rules of retelling "extremist memes" from criminal cases
https://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/2018/08/13/144141-roskomnadzor-raz-yasnil-pravila-pereskaza-v-smi-ekstremistskih-memov-iz-ugolovnyh-del
I don't even want to put in Google Translate this news from Bizzaro /b/.
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No. 6312
1,3 MB, 1280 × 720, 0:33
6,4 MB, 1280 × 720, 1:04
>>5630

Another Italian bridge going to hui, this time in Genoa
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No. 6319 Kontra
>>6312
No wonder, everything looks so Russian
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No. 6342
>>6312
>2nd thumbnail

I thought that's a flying tank so I instantly clicked without reading the post.
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No. 6382 Kontra
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France got some neat public urinals.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45174382
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No. 6400
72 kB, 670 × 450
Uspenskiy died
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No. 6402
282 kB, 1565 × 1037
>>6382
France is about to get another public urinal too
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-hunt/risk-of-no-deal-brexit-rising-everyone-needs-to-prepare-british-foreign-minister-idUSKBN1KZ1D0
What can Ireland do to prepare for the imminent influx of British refugees? Do you think they can close the border with NI and mine their coasts fast enough?
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No. 6403
>>6400
RIP
https://my.mail.ru/bk/angel77777777/video/400/6359.html
To my ears that alligator just sounds like an incredibly threatening bydlo though
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No. 6405
72 kB, 880 × 495
3,7 MB, 4:02
>Spanish driver tests positive for every drug

>A driver in northeastern Spain has tested positive for ‘every possible kind of drug’ after being pulled over by police on Saturday. Police found high levels of cannabis, amphetamines/methamphetamine, cocaine, opiates; as well as alcohol, with a rate of 0,60 mg/l.

>Local police told Euronews that a neighbour in the town of Carcastillo called the police saying that "several people were getting in a vehicle influenced by alcoholic beverages." The driver was fined 1000 euros and had six points deducted from his driver's license for failing the alcohol test, and another 1000 euros and six points for failing the drugs test.
http://www.euronews.com/2018/08/14/spanish-driver-tests-positive-on-all-drugs

As a special treat I also managed to get hold of a police recording of his heartbeat.
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No. 6406
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No. 6407
>>6405
Man that isn't every kind of drug I personally have probably had more diverse cocktails than that. They also forgot one of the most important families of drugs to test positive for: benzodiazepines. He also would have needed some mescaline or acid, some Ketamine, and perhaps some nitrous for good measure. Also some zolpidem and MDMA although those are technically amphetamine and benzo or least would ++ as those.
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No. 6414
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>>6403
>most famous and best sherlok holmes actor that was even on british coin
>bydlo
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No. 6422
28 kB, 351 × 322
>>6414
The Cook Islands are an independent country with some ties similar to protectorate status with New Zealand like a common NZ Citizenship. They're under the same system of parliament as them too, which includes the Queen as Head of State so like here, she goes on the coinage. Also, British currency uses pounds not dollars.
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No. 6472
90 kB, 800 × 900
>>6422
Sorry, not an expert about british isles and their colonies.
Well, anyway, this is not the case. For me Sherlok Holmes and Dr. Watson with Livanov and Solomin is absoluetly canonical and default Sherlok Holmes, good movies. And Cheburashka is classic too, Japan remastered first episode of it and then maded their episodes about cheburashka which is not great but okay. This cartoon is maximum soul concentration.

Remastered Prologue
https://youtu.be/C142fkaLLfc

Daskevich overture from Sherlok Holmes movies - pure classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdtwg-aNTj0
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No. 6478
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No. 6538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGpQgeXliDg

They've reached an agreement, it's neither. Too large to be a lake, not connected to the oceans to be a sea.

The oil/gas pumping is about to restart after over a century

Alfred Nobel of Sweden made his fortune off this in the 19th century
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No. 6540
>>6538
>Too large to be a lake, not connected to the oceans to be a sea.
AFAIK, caspian sea is salty and has surface level lower than nearing oceans, and it is so precisely because the water there evaporates (leaving the salt behind), instead of flowing into the ocean through some draining river, which is what happens to lakes. If it was connected to ocean, then it could be called a lake, water in this case would not be salty, and surface levels would be higher than ocean surface levels, but since it's not, and since it' so big, it is a sea.
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No. 6826
>The abrupt deterioration in relations between Greece and Russia has intensified after Athens publicly accused Moscow of attempting to bribe state officials and meddle in the country’s internal affairs.

>“We want to remind our Russian friends that no country in the world would tolerate attempts to a) bribe state officials b) undermine its foreign policy and c) interfere in its internal affairs.”

>Russian diplomats have similarly been accused by Greece of attempting to fund far-right nationalist groups through cultural associations established under the guise of promoting the two countries’ shared Orthodox religious heritage.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/11/greece-accuses-russia-bribery-meddling-macedonia-deal?CMP=share_btn_tw
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No. 7024
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Famous German internet personality Drachenlord made some news.

>Riot police called in after angry nerds storm tiny Bavarian village

>An online dispute between teenage nerds spilled out into the real world on Monday night when over 150 youths threatened to storm the house of a Youtuber known as Dragon Lord. Police eventually had to kettle the unruly crowd.

https://www.thelocal.de/20180821/riot-police-called-in-after-angry-nerds-storm-tiny-bavarian-village
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No. 7025
>>7024
>Kaggnadsis and Haiders
I'm still baffled by the Drachenlordkult's existence.
Why is he funny? Is he that much of a bydlo with a delusion of grandeur or what?
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No. 7026
>>7025
He's a internet freakshow, i guess you can compare him to someone like Chris-Chan.
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No. 7027
>>7024

This generation is the most pathetic one the world has ever seen.
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No. 7031
>>7026
I think most countries have at least one internet freakshow.
We have a fat dancing guy who does "Drunk as fuck streams" and has a speech impediment.
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No. 7052
>>6826
>Athens also rejected requests for entry visas from Russian Orthodox clerics heading for northern Greece’s all-male monastic republic of Mount Athos.
>The community is alleged to be a “den of spies”, with reports that Moscow has turned the Holy Mount – widely seen as the spiritual centre of Orthodoxy – into an intelligence-gathering operation with extensive funding of monasteries across the peninsula.

Sounds like a real life Krautchan experience.
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No. 7053
>>7027
There's been worse

>>7024
I have no idea who this guy is but why are German police so skinny?
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No. 7058
53 kB, 620 × 700
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>>7053
>why are German police so skinny?

Being able to walk is a must for German police.
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No. 7070 Kontra
>>7053
>I have no idea who this guy is but why are German police so skinny?

Now that I've seen the US fat cop pics from the other German, I actually remember you have to be somehow sporty to get into police here
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No. 7111
Australia has recently decided to be not-retarded
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-china-huawei-tech/australia-bans-chinas-huawei-from-mobile-network-build-over-security-fears-idUSKCN1L72GC
I mean really if I were the Chinese government I would just have Chinese backed industry installing backdoors directly into chipsets somehow. I'd make it so that the very fundamental technology itself was a weapon and tool for espionage so that if USA ever got to the point of being a physically threat I could just remotely disable their economy. And the thing is, China is exactly the kind of nation that would think like this.

I think the fact we aren't doing this is incredibly stupid and naive. Installing non-proprietary software maybe won't even help you against the NSA either though. It's hilarious seeing the old late 90s conspiracy shit where China was supposed to be some great dragon standing up to the "Illuminati" as if they would ever be the good guys. Honestly all our electronics should be manufactured far away from Asia and it is probably terrifying just how much of our communications infrastructure is dependent on them.
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No. 7115
>>7111
Now the government can just sell all the info to China and cut out the middleman. You really underestimate the level of corruption in our entire government. Remember that we haven't had a PM go a full term since 2007. It's musical chairs over here man, what a joke.
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No. 7133
>>7115
Oh yeah right, this is straya. But even still, doesn't...oh I guess the British crown really wouldn't have much say in your day to day political affairs would they. Well, your politicians are pretty famously incompetent I will give you that, but still, you're not actually that severely already a Sino-puppet state are you?
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No. 7166
>>7133
Not really, but the big dog in the ANZUS kennel is a long way away, so we do kowtow a bit. We rented a naval base to the PLAN a while back at the same time as having US Marines doing training in the same state. Not even talking Chinese investors here, just how they'll complain on the news about the South China Sea crisis, or how Hong Kong is getting crapped on again but nothing will ever get done, not even a limpdicked 'deep concern' statement until they start talking about setting up naval bases on Vanuatu and shit like that. We're even cooperating in the naval wargames next week despite the fact that we found them infiltrating territorial waters to spy on our exercises last year and can only assume they've been doing it longer than that. We're not a puppet state, but this place is getting spitroasted between the two regional powers in the Pacific so we have to play nice with both.
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No. 7278
97 kB, 576 × 768
https://codastory.com/disinformation-crisis/news/russian-trolls-vaccine-skepticism

Healthy young child goes to 4chan, gets pumped with massive shot of many conspiracy theories, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!
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No. 7279
207 kB, 1080 × 1050
>>7278
Why does this "codastory", demonize Russian for showing other side of a question -- adding to a debate, really.
Maybe so-called "Free Speech" is not two way road in West.
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No. 7286
>>7278
To me it's one of the weirdest conspiracy theories, that Russia has an army of trolls meddling with the elections of le free world.

What is backing that up?
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No. 7287 Kontra
106 kB, 500 × 667
>>7286
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll-Armee
Okay this is the most alien thing I know so far.
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No. 7290
>>7286
They exist in reality - this is horde of poor students who work in Savushkino/Lahta/Oligon whatever their officies now and spam for pootine for 15/rub post. Most times they pretty recognisable and all that crap mostly aimed for dumbest people possible. It's very compicated question how effective they are, but fact that they exist is not some conspiracy theory, it is obvious as fact that earth is not flat.
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No. 7291
>>7290
I believe you but I think it's very ridiculous what a significance media is giving to that. And one big motive of any consp. theory one can still find
>It was not us making stupid decisions it was le evil russian trolls
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No. 7294
>>7291
It is obvious that somtimes this "trolls", or more concretic, their leads (one of them for example Progozin, if I not mistaken) use this not as to "just shitpost", but as hidden political instrument. Considering how dumb averege people are across all world, it is not that hard using some daily themes and issues to really physically destablise western society or create problems that otherwise would be avoided or nobody cared. Look at 4cancer - this is how look majority of POLITICALLY ACTIVE people, you think it that hard to affect or manipulate political questions and elections by just shitposting in major internet resourses? Yes, it is easy.

Long thing short:
Putin "army of trolls" is dumb as hell and this is just army of shitposters that spread payed posts for cheap, but overall human mass so dumb that even this instrument work and they really affect world politics. Ironicly, inside russia less and less people care about them - after huge massive internet wave of putinbots in 2013-14-15 that filled all internet with this, people learned to distinguish them for normal posters and nowdays even a lot grandmas can spot posters that obviously payed by goverment, or see that this is bots who disliked youtube video or obvious thing that goverment television only lie. We managed to live with that, it is annoying thing like mosqitos in summer, but when you get used to it, they no more annoy you. It like in late USSR more people maded jokes about goverment propoganda, then belived it.
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No. 7304
>>7291
>>7294
Many countries have one version of this or another, even the British. Remember JTRIG?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Threat_Research_Intelligence_Group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK_Trolls

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Water_Army

and so on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_Internet_propaganda

In fact this is nothing new, and the DoD here came out with the concept of "fighting the internet as if it were an enemy weapons system" quite awhile ago https://www.wanttoknow.info/060205usmilitarycontrolinternet

Cyberwarfare operations as a "new theater" of warfare is nothing new at all, nor frankly is the targeting of civilians. The only thing that should ever amaze you is both how fucking dumb people really are and the actual efficacy of such programs, since while the various megacorps and governments are typically able to pull things off on that scale or engage in massive conspiracies and coverups, their ability to sound "cool" or "hip" to the young people often comes across as woefully incompetent. But then again, kids are also pretty fucking stupid and I've seen just in my life numerous questionable trends I swear are a conspiracy. A major one is Tripp pants and those red blinkers on shoes. I always assumed that was somehow tied to law enforcement who wanted to convince really fucking dumb drug dealers to wear the absolute worst things you possibly can for counter-evasion purposes.
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No. 7316
58 kB, 800 × 543
rip

>John McCain, senator and former presidential candidate, dies at 81

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/25/politics/john-mccain-obituary/index.html

I kinda liked him.
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No. 7319
>>7316
I have mixed feelings about him. Yeah he was a cunt, but he had at least a shred of integrity and decency to him that we've lost and desperately are in need of in this country.
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No. 7323
>but he had at least a shred of integrity and decency to him
i dont like speaking ill of people who just passed away, but he was a notorious liar, hypocrite, extremely aggressive warmonger and contributed to the causes of many unneccessary conflicts, bloodsheds and human rights violations. i do not associate a single positive thing with him.
>bomb, bomb, bomb iran
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No. 7327
>>7323
this.
saw quite a few pics/leaks where he was seen with heads of terrorist groups; rumored to be financing them. maybe just photoshoped, thou
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No. 7329
>>7316
Probably the last prominent Republican who could claim some sort of integrity and sanity. Now all that's left are religious nutjobs and organized crime related freaks like Trump.
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No. 7331
>>7327
Those aren't leaks or secretly taken pictures, those are official photos he even posted on his own twitter half a decade ago.
You should change your sources of information.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-usa-mccain/senator-mccain-met-with-rebels-in-syria-spokesman-idUSBRE94Q0HU20130527

McCain was one of the very few politicians, not only in the USA but the whole world, who had the balls to go against his own party, that deserves respect.
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No. 7332
>>7316
Only yesturday readed that he stopping his therapy program or somehing.
Looks like he was permanetly connected to some medical high tech that brings him to life back :D
It like Breznev's daily program: In evening clinical death, in morning reanimation... X----DDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Y2OCyk-Pc
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No. 7334
>>7316
He had some heavy cancer last months.
RIP, he was working till the end.
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No. 7338
>>7323
You might not like the stances he took on issues, but the man was more than willing to sabotage his political career by going against party line to defend issues he supported. I personally like that he was a big supporter of declassifying documents on the behaviour of the CIA and the US military on black sites.
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No. 7359
>>7331
>>7338
The problem is in his later years he often appeared to give up the fight and abandon his own integrity to toe that line, which is why I was more trepidatious in saying so.
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No. 7366
Do you think that war, generally speaking, is a bad thing whose overall costs and traumas vastly outweigh any potential benefits?
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/world-war-ii-bomb-defused-in-germany-after-18500-evacuated
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No. 7367
>>7366
There is no war which benefits anyone unless you sell weapons.
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No. 7368
>>7366
Of course. War is just destruction of all sorts of things and a huge waste of productivity.
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No. 7382
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No. 7384
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No. 7389
>>7367
Well I mean it seems to have helped us with things such as technological development for instance. Our space program for example has been pretty stagnant since the Cold War ended and a lot of our technology is still being used from WWII like radar.
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No. 7399
>>7382
>Another gamer, Tim Anselimo, was shot multiple times, according to his mother.

>He was shot three times, once on the nipple, once on his hand and somewhere else," Sujeil Lopez told the New York Times.

Does that mean he got shot in the dick?
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No. 7435
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No. 7436
>>7435
Did this article metion that he was jailed for random reason just before upcoming protests in 9,seltember?
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No. 7437
>>7436
They say it was for an unsanctioned rally. These days whenever I hear things like "unsanctioned rally" "promoting extremism" and the like I just assume the cabal of churkas, Jews, and Georgians around the rat king are getting nervous about their stolen goods being looked at it.
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No. 7500
3,6 MB, 640 × 360, 0:35
Not news, I just wanted to share a joke with you.

-And, the humans, do they dance joyfully?
-Yes, prime minister, they do
-Then I too shall dance joyfully in the national interest
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No. 7514
>>7500
Typical Western politicians honestly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxbT11QlCe8

And Eastern politicians as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSokzLEo0eA
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No. 7528
USA so big, did you know we also have S-T-Ds?
http://time.com/5379165/std-rates-sex/
>Chlamydia remains by far the most common STD in the U.S., with more than 1.7 million cases diagnosed last year. But increases in syphilis diagnoses have been particularly dramatic. Rates have risen by 76% (from around 17,400 cases to more than 30,600 cases) since 2013, according to CDC data. Bolan says that’s in part because transmission patterns are changing.

>Gonorrhea diagnoses are also increasing and have grown by 67% (from around 333,000 cases to roughly 555,600 cases) since 2013, the report shows. Even more concerning, Bolan says, is the mounting threat of drug-resistant strains of the disease.

>Gonorrhea is a “wily organism,” Bolan says. “As soon as you use one drug, it figures out ways to bypass that antibiotic. We’re now down to the last known effective antibiotic in our pipeline. It’s only a matter of time before the organism’s going to outsmart us.”
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No. 7533
115 kB, 995 × 662
At 12:00 by Moscow Time (in three hours from now) Putin gives speech about pension reform.
Pension reform is the latest big thing to unite people sharp enough against government, so this kind of speech is needed (for them).
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No. 7536
71 kB, 600 × 424
>>7533
Unless he's doing it to have more money to invade Ukraine, he'll get overthrown. Then they can build USSR 3.0 with Belarus and Ukraine to compete with the EU
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No. 7546
>>7533
How will United Russia deal with the pension cuts now that the emergency fund is drying out? Could this be the drop that breaks the camel's back and makes Russian look for an alternative?
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No. 7547
292 kB, 1252 × 1252
It's kind of ebin. Our parliament is falling apart again because we once again failed to get a PM to term. Australian politics is quite the spectacle right now, we've got an entire party basically tearing itself apart when the leader they got rid of was one of the ones who could actually save their image, and they instead put forward the treasurer with little experience outside of domestic policy, and have managed to basically trash the lead that they clawed from Labour over the past year or so in the polls overnight.

Sit back and enjoy the show fellas.
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No. 7548
>>7547
Damn, autocracies are a lot more boring than democracies.

There's hardly any drama, other than a couple assassinations here and there.
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No. 7549
>>7548
I am actually struggling to keep up with it. I got the winner and runner up mixed up in my first attempt at that post even :-DD

Here's the in-depth breakdown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Australia_leadership_spills,_2018

You're right though, it's a lot more interesting when the hangers-on can actually fuck with the big dogs and win. It's how you get situations like ours where we haven't had a PM sit their full term since 2007 :-DDDDD
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No. 7550 Kontra
>>7549
Oh yeah, and it wasn't even that long ago that 8 senators and 7 members of the lower house were forced to resign because they were holding seats illegally. This place is a fuggen joke mang. Why do people think we're not a failed state again?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%9318_Australian_parliamentary_eligibility_crisis
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No. 7557
>>7546
So, here's the speech.
http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/58405
>Could this be the drop that breaks the camel's back and makes Russian look for an alternative?
Doubt so.
Honestly, there's almost nothing. The only major change - women get right to get pension at 60 years instead of 63, as it were planned before, from 55 years now. (Compare to men, they raise age from 60 to 65 years).
He said, like, "OK guys, let's get money from selling too big Pension Fund buildings or from overincomes from oil, but that won't get us much money". I am highly skeptical that his friends' money wouldn't get us money for pensions, but surely he won't propose this.
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No. 7585
>>7548
Actual democratic societies especially free ones are by design much more chaotic societies. They are much more entertaining places that's for sure. It basically gives you +1 level to creative output. The down side is it's difficult to organize megaprojects in such a society unless you explicitly have something like a major government program that generally doesn't get fucked with by some transient politician.
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No. 7587
Good news everyone
https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/roy-olivers-murder-conviction-a-rarity-in-police-shootings-11074983
Finally one of our police faced genuine legal consequences for executing unarmed children
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No. 7590
>>7548
that might be kazakistan thing, habbidings and drama never ends here.
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No. 7610
320 kB, 589 × 507
I really like this timeline we're in.
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No. 7616
Remember how I always talk about how corrupt the entire system of Euros coming here and acting like gyppos is? Here's another eye-opener for you. I've never liked Dutton, man's slimy as fuck. He's all about tough immigration laws until it's 'muh European travel workers'. He overturned yet another deportation of some Euro working illegally while stonewalling guys who have worn our uniform in assistance to our soldiers to great personal risk on 'character' basis. Funnily enough, the Euro was working for certain individuals who happened to give a six figure donation to his party. This kind of shit is why I say that I hate my country but love my homeland. This is the guy who almost became PM in the recent drama btw. Rate.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/a-war-veteran-ignored-by-peter-dutton-for-years-has-slammed-his-au-pair-visa-decisions/news-story/3f6e62091c080c61668a4dfcf39a03cd
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No. 7630
Joseph Kobzon dood
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No. 7641
IMF's help some weeks ago wasn't enough to stop Argentina's currency downfall. The country is now asking IMF to loan now all of the money that they planned to loan them in the future, and also raised interests.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/30/argentina-crisis-peso-crashes-to-record-low-amid-imf-plea.html
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No. 7670
>>7641

I just read somewhere Spanish banks are engaged with hundreds of billions of € in Argentine and some other 2nd world markets that are under pressure now (Turkey for instance). Looks like second huge bankers bail out might be looming...
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No. 7679
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Zakarchenko, the leader of Donetsk People's Republic, is killed in a cafe.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/08/31/cafe-bombing-kills-separatist-leader-in-eastern-ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Zakharchenko

A lot of separatists commanders were ousted from power or killed by sabouteurs in the last 3 years. Each time separatists claimed that it's Ukrainian saboteurs and special forces killed the commanders, this time everything is exactly the same, but this is a first time when a such high-ranking separatist was killed. Some people believe that this is the work of the FSB and Russia is trying to stabilize the republics. There is a short list of separatists who were killed by some shadow forces:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Zakharchenko (killed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsen_Pavlov (killed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Tolstykh (killed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksey_Mozgovoy (killed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennadiy_Tsypkalov (killed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valery_Bolotov (killed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Plotnitsky (ousted)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennadiy_Tsypkalov (killed)

There a lot of minor commanders that aren't on English Wikipedia. If I remember correctly, the mystical deaths of separatist commanders began in 2015, with the attack on commander of "Batman" battalion. Use google translator if you can't read Slavic runes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separatist_forces_of_the_war_in_Donbass#Disbanded
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Козицын,_Николай_Иванович (ousted)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Жилин,_Евгений_Владимирович (killed)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дрёмов,_Павел_Леонидович (killed)
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ищенко,_Евгений_Станиславович (killed)
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No. 7681
>>7679
>Some people believe that this is the work of the FSB and Russia is trying to stabilize the republics.
Interesting, what could be the case?
I don't believe that sanctions hit Russian multimillionaires so hard that they try to clean up the mess which DPR and LPR are.
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No. 7684
412 kB, 1280 × 855
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/constantinople-patriarch-tells-russian-patriarch-that-ukrainian-church-will-be-independent.html

This is a big event for Ukrainians. Earlier Ukraine was dominated by churches of Moscow Patriarchate, while Kyiv Patriarchate wasn't officialy recognised. Recognition of Kyiv Patriarchate will lead to increased number of Ukrainian churches and lesser Russian influence in the country.
Poroshenko visited the Constaninople Archbishop a couple of times and propagated on media channels that Ukraine will get its own church, so fullfiling of the promise would bust his approval among religious voters in the heated coming 2019 presidential election.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country

I still maintain the view that Russia has greatly fucked up with Crimea and Donbas, I think use of soft-power and pressure of pro-Russian voters on the new Maidan government would lead to greater benefits for Russia. Russia's actions only damaged its own interests in the long-run, which led to the financial loss, radicalization of Ukrainians and the creation of a stronger Ukrainian identity. Ukrainian un-patriotism was successfuly exploited by Kremlin in the Ukrainian politics and led to the election of Yanukovych. Someday, Russian-Ukrainian relations will be restored and somebody will have to pay for Donbas rebuilding and Crimea. There is no way that Putin's competent Machiavellian politician.
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No. 7691
49 kB, 510 × 468
>>7684
Putin and Poroshenko serve the same masters
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No. 7693
>>7679
>>7679
>Zakarchenko, the leader of Donetsk People's Republic, is killed in a cafe.
good
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No. 7694
720 kB, 1500 × 923
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No. 7695
90 kB, 1200 × 630
Coincedence? I don't think so!
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No. 7698
>>7679
>Some people believe that this is the work of the FSB

Of course. That's the most likely version.
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No. 7699
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No. 7724
https://voxeu.org/article/fake-news-and-fact-checking

A very interesting article proving the problem with those 30% of Americans who support Trump no matter how often people prove that he's lying.
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No. 7729
>>7724
Trump is king, the problem is there is a section of leftist mutts who hate trump no matter how brilliant he is
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No. 7730
84 kB, 600 × 399
>>7699
reminder: you're a turk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb4uQLRkpys

(User was banned for this post)

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No. 7740
>>7729
I can't even tell if you're ironically shitposting or just sincerely that fucking unbelievably stupid
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No. 7744 Kontra
307 kB, 911 × 911
>>7729
>>7740
why even care about the puppet at the top? the MIIC is doing it's own thing no matter what.

waste of time.
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No. 7747 Kontra
Well this thread is slowely going to be some sort of pol-shit.

>>7730
>>7729
Report him at least.
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No. 7771
24 kB, 499 × 98
136 kB, 499 × 279
I was super excited but then disappointed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45377707
I wish we still lived in an age of random ghost ships.

As for that guy who keeps talking about 5G and whatnot
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
See the problem is, if it gets into/is developed for the hands of a small clique of powerful people, namely the government. But it is also really irritating to me to have tons of genuine idiots and psychotics mixed in with disinfo agents discrediting what's usually the honest truth known about sometimes decades before it even becomes common knowledge. Conspiracy sites had been talking about microwave or EMF weapons and mind control experiments many of which were actually done back in the 60s.

>The false sensations, the experts say, may account for a defining symptom of the diplomatic incidents — the perception of loud noises, including ringing, buzzing and grinding. Initially, experts cited those symptoms as evidence of stealthy attacks with sonic weapons.

>Members of Jason, a secretive group of elite scientists that helps the federal government assess new threats to national security, say it has been scrutinizing the diplomatic mystery this summer and weighing possible explanations, including microwaves.

>>7729
>>7730
Is this the same guy? Also reminder pic related
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No. 7772 Kontra
>>7771
Oh also
>It is unknown if Washington deploys such arms. But the Pentagon built a related weapon known as the Active Denial System, hailing it in a video. It fires an invisible beam meant to deter mobs and attackers with fiery sensations.
That's false. Those aren't "fiery sensations" it burns because the surface of your skin is being cooked by microwave radiation. That's how the ADS system works.
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No. 7779
7,9 MB, 4900 × 1873
>>7585
I'd rather have ebin political banter than megaprojects tbh.

Astana city looks like it came straight out of some stormfronter conspiracy theorist's fever dream about the masonic new world order.
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No. 7780
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>>7779
It's not really ebin banter. More often than not it's a bunch of grown men and women flinging shit like so many children.
t. '''democratic''' country inhabitant
For some reason under Australian law, it is in fact a crime to withhold your vote when nobody represents your interests. Abstaining from casting a vote is a vote for no party, not a crime.
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No. 7781
>>7780
That sounds very inconvenient.

We have a much better system. If you, for some reason, don't show up to Great Leader's elections, they're very understanding and will just send the vote in your stead.

Saves a lot of time.
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No. 7782
>>7781
Yeah, it's why I'm not enrolled to vote. Can't send me the fine if they don't actually have me on the list saying I didn't vote. It's only $20 each time, but if you ignore their letters they jack the fine up and then lump their legal bill in with it too. It's pretty disgusting, they put a $300 fine on a pensioner for abstaining from the vote a while back for example. Also considering that all our politicians are the same seven-headed dragon, mandatory voting might as well be letting Great Leader's Party just cast your vote for you. I don't see why I have to be present to choose which head is the one that's going to crap all over what few civil liberties haven't been sold to them already. Anybody who tells you that this country is a representative democracy is trying to pull a fast one on you. You have total freedom to vote so long as you vote among the candidates that they say are okay to vote for, and 'none of the above' is not something they consider okay.
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No. 7783 Kontra
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>>7782
Also, rate this despotic shit.

38. An elector may be prosecuted for failing to vote at an election or a referendum without a valid and sufficient reason, or for making a false or misleading statement in response to a penalty notice issued by a DRO (see s 245(15) and(15C) of the Electoral Act and s 45(14) and (14C) of the Referendum Act). . If a person is found guilty of this offence, a court may impose a penalty of 1 penalty unit, currently a maximum penalty of $210. In addition, court costs may also be payable. The value of a penalty unit is set by section 4AA of the Crimes Act 1914 (Cth).

39. It should be noted that if a non-voter has been convicted and fined by a court, and the non-voter decides not to pay the fine, then it is for the court to decide what action should be taken or if a further penalty should be imposed. The action taken by the court in relation to fine defaulters may vary depending on the state or territory in which the conviction is recorded, and may involve community service orders, seizure of goods, or a short period in jail. In some jurisdictions the court may have no alternative to ordering a jail sentence for fine defaulters. However, this is a matter for the courts and not for the AEC.

So basically, the law says 'Legitimise my regime or I'll fine you through the nose and/or throw you in a cell. Don't you love being in a free democracy?' Can someone please nuke Canberra already?
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No. 7784
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>>7779
I actually always liked Astana for exactly that reason. It gives it some sort of weird mystique flair. You look at it and wonder, why did they do this? What important purpose does Kazakhstan serve? Other than just having a retarded dictator of course.
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No. 7785
>>7784
The monuments are megalomania but the logic behind them does make sense if you understand the politics of Kazakhstan from the 80s through to independence. A lot of it is about Kazakh identity. It's kitschy and stupid, but from what I've read, it has roots in the politics of the late Kazakh SSR/Early Republic of Kazakhstan period when Nazzy B came to power. In short, there were ethnic riots in Almaty when the USSR put a Russian in charge of the Kazakh SSR which was seen as a final insult after a century of various bullshit regarding executing Kazakh intellectuals and trying to destroy parts of literary culture. Oversimplified explanation but it's the gist of it. A lot of the weird dictator stuff he does is focused on Kazakh nationalism because of this, and the point is basically an over the top way of saying 'we're not Russian'.
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No. 7787
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>>7785
The soviet architecture combined with ethnic flavor makes Almaty a lot more distinct and flavorful in my opinion.

Shame there's not much of that anymore, the city's now full of soulless modern buildings.
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No. 7788
>>7787
Man, I really love how the traditional trousers look like 70s disco gear, and how the old guy on the dombra looks like he's dropping a mad guitar riff.
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No. 7791
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>>7788
[dombra music stops]
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No. 7792
>>7784
Astana looks plastic and soulless. Cant wait for another Turkic rennesaince to they get rid of those sovok buildings. It looks really ugly like our newly built cities.

Bukhara on the other hand, now that`s how cities should be, old and with unique soul.
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No. 7794
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>>7791
Tbh, I wouldn't be opposed to making EC-tier Turkic menes.

>>7792
Problem is that Kazakhs never really had anything bigger than villages, or sizeable towns. The Greater Almaty region is as big as they got, and while it was big enough for its own mint and influential enough to make the Silk Road take a detour, it wasn't accessible enough to get the size of places like Bukhara.

Timurid architecture is super ebin though.
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No. 7796
>>7794
>Problem is that Kazakhs never really had anything bigger than villages, or sizeable towns.
Don't mention Uzbeks, it causes Turkestan-sized butthurt.
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No. 7797
2,4 MB, 10457 × 3211
>>7796
Define Uzbeks. Depending on the context that can mean different things. Ferghana Sarts are nowadays considered Uzbek but are not Uzbek in language or ethnicity historically, or do you mean the original nomadic Uzbeks from the Syr Darya delta or the later settled Uzbeks in the area that we now know as Uzbekistan? Also the Uzbek Khanate held major cities that the Kazakh Khanate did not. Their situations are pretty different. Also, a lot of the stuff that remains in the Kalyan complex is closely related to the Uzbeks via the Shaybanids. The situation in the southern parts of Central Asia is not really comparable to that of the middle and northern parts of the region.
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No. 7798
>>7794
>>7794
there was a time besides greko-romans every european was living like you described. germanics, celtics, slavs(they are the latest one adapted) all adapted but nowadays nobody spout shit like "yada yada yada you guys dont have original architecture you just steal greko-roman shit" and we neither question the relation between greko-romans and other europeans. For me it's still astonishing that other europeans freely claim greko-roman cultural heritage even though it was miles apart different and the greko-roman culture was even closer to native anatolian culture.

Anyway let's not distract outselves, the point is other europeans welcome the cultural improvment and knowledge regardless where it comes, why can't we do it? Why can't kazakhs do it? Of course there were historical griveances but with such a divide and conquer tactic working on which literally all colonial powers pulled of once, neither kazakhs and uzbeks or any other Turkish nation can improve themselves efficiently.

Of course some might disagree but this is my stance about it, both in ideological and real politic sense. Balkan mentality doom them as much as it doom us.
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No. 7799
>>7798
Oh, I'm not saying that there can't be some kind of reclamation of a Central Asian architectural style, just that the reason that Kazakh cities are really new looking is because they are really new. There isn't really the same level of existing development to build around like there is in places like Bukhara. Just explaining why the same level of really old school stuff doesn't exist in Kazakhstan outside of notable exceptions like Turkistan which is (almost literally) Turkic Mecca. Virtually every major local power has claimed it and used it as a capital at some point and it shows in how old school parts of it are.
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No. 7800
>>7797
The definition of language will be commonly intrepreted according to political agendas. Before german union there were lots of germanic languages, some of them even hated each other with guts. but after union it started to get more standardized, yet nobody besides autist claim there is no german nation and language.

Sadly even in linguistics, might makes it right appereantly.
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No. 7801
Old architecture maybe look nice, but it is not cost-effective, comfy by modern standarts or that much usefull without major changes. I'am totally okay with commieblocks if they are in good condition, clean and builded correctly with good planing of district (yes, sometimes this happen even in sovok). I'am more than satisfyed with place where I currently live (5-floor 1975 soviet panel building) even thought I'am big fan of gothic archetecture.
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No. 7802
>>7800
Difference is that Ferghana Sarts spoke an entirely different branch of Turkic, kind of equivalent to saying that East Prussians were the same as South Germans to use your same analogy. It wasn't a dialect within the same branch kind of deal. Ferghana Sarts were a distinct subgroup of Kipchak language separate from the Iranic, Karluk and Kipchak-Nogai languages around them. I wouldn't be saying that they're separate if they were both speaking Karluk branch Turkic.

It's the same in the Kazakhs, depending on when and where you're referring to them, it can mean different things. The Little Zhuz for example has always been a lot more Cuman-influenced than the Middle and Senior Zhuz who had a lot more contact with and migration from over the Altai. Our Brick is a Naiman for example who were largely inside modern day Mongolia if you go far enough back.
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No. 7803
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>>7799
Well Turkestan literally mean land of Turks and it wasnt Turkicstan tbh. The word "Turks" started to be definition of Turks living in Turkey rather than blanket term off what you call turkics+turkey turks. The reason why this happened is both political and historical.

We call ourselves Turkey which comes italian word, turcia because Turkey is literally where all type of Turkich immigrants come, so it's something like we're USA but with all type Turkic immigrants, considering the fact if you lose battle, your tribe loses their piece of land they could grazing, they would just go to west with opportunities. This is the reason why we didn't affialiate with much of the tribe name (It's different from dynastic names)

Also yeah I understand they are new, but there is no reason to not make a good new city (I never said they should just completely copy it) For example this building is new but to me it looks both functioning and good. Remember st. petersburg was also once and odesa is only around 200 years old. Filling your squares with grey, ugly glass buildings won't help you to build a strong natinal identity neither boost your soft power.
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No. 7804
>>7798
Just a nit-pick: There is not "celtic" culture as "celtic" was just the discription of all the european tribes living in the area that the Greeks and Romans regarded as uncivilised. The germanic culture arose from some of those tribes while the Romans had alread established trade with the 'barbarians' (literally meaning non-greek).

IIRC the terminology of "celtic" is based on Greek writing from 300 B.C. and the Romans continued to use it. Note though that the romans differentiated between the tribes they were dealing with (Ubii, Treveri, Sicambri, etc). Still, even the tribal cultures far east to the baltics were called "celtics" by the Romans.

And I would say that it isn't so much that we central europeans readily pretend to be successors of greko-roman culture, we actually are. The culture that was here before the Romans conquered the land has been eradicated, assimilated by greko-roman culture. We might not be the genetic heirs of the Romans, but the only culture we can trace a path to is that of the Romans and Greeks. In school we learn about Greek and Roman philosophers (mostly Greek though) because that is what we have. There is almost no knowledge preserved about what any 'celtic' cultures believed. And the pieces that we have were written down by Greeks and Romans, of which the accuracy is often questionable.
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No. 7805
>>7802
Wew, I didn't say it was same, I just said it could standarized if they could work on it.
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No. 7806
>>7803
I was referring to the city Turkistan which is one of the oldest seats of power in Turkic history rather than the Turkestan Region. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_(city)
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No. 7807
>>7804
>>7804
well there is, there is a thing called historical estimates we still have to consider what romans saying but also have to use archeology or other sciences to understand what it is.

If you refer they are distinct from each other, that's still not "unmake" their culture.

>And I would say that it isn't so much that we central europeans readily pretend to be successors of greko-roman culture, we actually are
well we have a saying, if you say something 40 times it'll eventually happen. not arguing about what you are and what you are not. Just saying with time, education and indoctrinating people adapt certain cultures enough to claim it's legacy. It just annoys me when someone tries that they keep accused with being a cargo cult. Even their culture is actually more related with romans and germanics related with each other.
(screwed english in this one)
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No. 7809
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>>7806
Ach, my autism blew it.
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No. 7811
>>7805
It is (mostly) standardised nowadays, it's just a common pitfall when talking about Central Asian history to assume that things stay in one place or mean the same thing in different contexts. If someone talks about Uzbeks, do they mean the Uzbek people or the people of Uzbekistan? It's actually a massive difference is the point I was trying to make. Likewise if you talk about Kazakhs, then whether you're referring to the members of a specific Zhuz or the members of the entire Khanate can change the way things work somewhat, but with them it's more relevant historically than in the present because unlike Uzbekistan with Qaraqalpaqstan and Ferghana, they're not in a union with people outside their group.

>>7809
Been there many times fren. Cultural and Linguistic borders of Central Asia are something I'm pretty autismal about myself :-D
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No. 7813
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>>7800
>but after union it started to get more standardized, yet nobody besides autist claim there is no german nation and language.
If I may interrupt you right there, the standartizations of the German language are more of a cause of the printing press than any governmental project. Germanic languages/dialects began forming into larger groups well far before the tragic formation of the German nation as a political entity.
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No. 7824
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>>7792
It does things for my burger soul
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No. 7825
>>7804
>eradicated by greco-Roman
Actually I would say it was largely eradicated by the syncretism of that and Judaism. A ton of what we actually inherited culturally ended up being pretty Judaic. This is honestly the main reason why Jews are even relevant anywhere at all as opposed to some really obscure bunch of Bedouins or Druze tribe or something, because the Jews had a presence in the empire and through Rome and the branch of Judaism they called heretical and blasphemous it supplanted just about everything else with just enough room to keep some local traditions alive, but by and large the Jesus of Nazereth Judaic sect is the thing that completely supplanted and eradicated first Roman and Greek culture and then the whole rest of Europe. All we have left is occasionally naming products after some Greek, Roman, or Germanic gods and a few Christianized versions of local holidays like Saturnalia and Samhain (and even then only vaguely). Which is the only reason why Judaism is even relevant to anybody, because people think oh these are the people who wrote episode one and started our fandom.
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No. 7826
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>>7824
I'm going to pretend that when they were designing the city they had some lego trees that they incorporated into the model. Then the construction team thought they weren't just representative.
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No. 7839
>>7824
>>7824
my city has even more plastic tier pyramid.
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No. 7843
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>>7839
Mine is 75 miles inland but has a lighthouse.

It's used to test elevators
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No. 7844
>>7843
That is impressively ugly
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No. 7864
>>7844
>>7843
atleast you have proper city planning, I'm hoping for a good earthquake that drives away millions from cities, so we can have good planning with no grey commieblocks.

I really hope some bady we make some law where peasants forbidden to leave their land unless they are useful smart and shit.
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No. 8034
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>Study finds reducing speed limits does in fact reduce driver speed

https://www.10news.com/news/national/study-finds-reducing-speed-limits-does-in-fact-reduce-driver-speed