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No. 4769
64 kB, 854 × 559
Is any Ernst here into Trading? Be it stocks, currencies or whatever else cryptos are gay

I just sold my ADVA Optical Networking stocks because they went trough the roof in the last few days and i wanted to profit before it goes back down.

I still own stocks of the companies Steinhoff International and Telefónica Deutschland.

Steinoff is pretty much worthless right now so buying a few hundred stocks is cheap and there's potential upwards.

How about you?
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No. 4773
39 kB, 966 × 337
Not personally, but I still think Raytheon is underpriced right now. Syria is still simmering away, and the F-35 program is nearing its fully operational date, and one of the calling cards of the F-35 at operational stage is GBU-53 SDB II which is a weapon design built around a guidance kit that is a Raytheon trademark. Their stock is well below $200 a pop and in the not so distant future, a couple of years or so. I think it's 2021 at the latest is their current deadline, they will have a monopoly on one of the main features of the F-35 as it rolls out. That's a feeding frenzy for them as they monopolise what will be the most common guided munition used by between 13-25 nations.

I'm not an economics expert, but weapons is always a pretty safe place to stick your money tbh. Motherfuckers always want to blow each other up. Following stocks of things that interest me is fun rather than the actual act of trading though.
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No. 4775 Kontra
>>4773
Oh, and can you figure out what the massive drop in late April is all about?

It's when all the dickwaving and limited airstrikes in Syria didn't lead to an actual standoff between Russia and the US :-DDD
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No. 4783
>>4773
>but weapons is always a pretty safe place to stick your money tbh

I had my eye on gun manufacturors during the presidential election when half of the US was "dem demucrats is going to take muh freedom" and everyone was buying tons of guns but i didn't see such a big influence by it.
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No. 4785
>>4783
Private sales are small time, that's why. Even a big uptick in private sales is pennies in a bucket. An F-35B is intended to carry I think it was 16 GBU-53s for a CAS payload. That is US$4M for that one payload, and they're probably flying in a two-ship flight, so $8M, within a package containing another on-call flight, so $16M and that's not including any money they make off of other weapons within the package and other packages. They also produce the sidewinders and slammers that the escorts will be toting around and the newest versions of those are $600k and $300k a pop respectively. When I say investing in weapons, I mean cutting-edge military contractors rather than domestic sales divisions.
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No. 4789
140 kB, 1440 × 900
Trading is assolutely unacceptable way of making a living, and only honest labour is the way man should live! That's what I was taught when I was a kid.
Now, seriously, I am poor to consider any serious trading. 10 cents of profit don't amaze me, so I don't care.
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No. 4805
I follow some biotech and pharmaceutical investors/journalists on twitter but I'm more interested in the trial data side of things than market prospects tbh
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No. 4807
>>4789
I know this feel.
>oh it is so much better be salt of the earth and not such a sinner, but man how much I wish I was that sinner
Only in America it is more about Protestantism than Sovok heda
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No. 4809
>>4807
But America has culture of trading and investing.
Only a fraction of people in Germany owns any stocks or has other investments compared to the US.
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No. 4810
>>4809
I think the difference is Americans all pretty much down to a man like to fantasize about being those people, despite the majority thinking of them as slimy if not downright evil. It is the "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" syndrome.
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No. 4812
44 kB, 860 × 484
>>4810
So, pic related with a wet dream of being the wolf of wall street?
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No. 4827
>>4812
Yeah pretty much. And now you can imagine why that man is going to act like one of the worst power tripping petty tyrants imaginable.

Honestly at this point I think America has become a failed society. We outlasted Russia just long enough to say "haha first! #1 #1!" before dying a death. I mean really the only thing Americans truly value or worship are dollars. It's just odd because you still wind up confronted with the dichotomy, of this is a place that has a neurotic nervous breakdown if someone shows a nipple on primetime TV meanwhile is the number one leader not just of making porn, but making truly the most heinous and degrading, degenerative porn possible. Have this huge war on drugs, meanwhile eat more drugs than anyone else, all while pretty much forcing the planet into joining our retarded drug war.

In fact I think that is a very good figure to understand the American psyche: the crime lord. Americans will act like a mobster really is just a more bad boy businessman and act like he's on par with any CEO or actress or whatever as upper class. The very concept of "classiness" itself has been divorced, so it is only "how many dollars do you have". Think of a Walter White or Al Capone, those are like the American heroes. I would say, rap in particular being popularized by a cancerous element played a huge role in getting dumb naive kids to talk about "pimpin'" as a noble endeavor, but a sense of American society has long been like this.

The lines are blurred. You have to see a thing like Las Vegas and understand what it says about American people. A bunch of Jewish and Italian crime lords founded a city on their illegal business ventures, and now it is iconic American city. They 'went legit' but only sort of. Hell in my state, they still are putting up things like casinos everywhere as if that is the same kind of valid business. Drugs, prostitution, gambling, as long as the government gets its cut it's like nobody cares just so long as you make more money than anybody else, and I think that is partly why there is even more an idea of the "get rich or die trying" crowd are scum.

I would even go so far as to say that basically the entire country is being held together purely through the power of the lotto, where that fat fuck will just keep busting heads in while fantasizing about winning the Powerball for $300 million or something.

Some very, very interesting things would begin happening in this country almost overnight if you completely outlawed the lottery. I've seen foreigners ask why Americans never act like in France or Greece, why they tolerate senseless parades of bullshit and I tell you right now, it is the lottery. Tell a man he has a 1 in ten billion chance of becoming a wealthy elite in the scratch off, and he will bust his ass and eat shit and smile and ask for another serving.
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No. 4842 Kontra
>>4827
>Some very, very interesting things would begin happening in this country almost overnight if you completely outlawed the lottery. I've seen foreigners ask why Americans never act like in France or Greece, why they tolerate senseless parades of bullshit and I tell you right now, it is the lottery. Tell a man he has a 1 in ten billion chance of becoming a wealthy elite in the scratch off, and he will bust his ass and eat shit and smile and ask for another serving.

Euros have such lotteries.
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No. 4852
>>4842
But only old or poor people play lotto on a regular basis.
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No. 4862
>>4852
As is the case around the world.
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No. 4864
>>4852
>>4862
Dump people play it. Poor dumb people.
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No. 4952
I have the money to invest but do not want to invest at an all time time, meanwhile facebook and twitter lose billions does not even effect the tech stock market.
Value vs Earnings is getting higher and higher.
I could afford to lose but am afraid I will have to be last in line as plebs have been investing in the stock market since 1920, if I don't invest I get left behind, if I invest in gold it will only earn 12%.
I might buy some bonds, feels like I am the last person yet to join the ponzi scheme.
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No. 4954
6,9 MB, 1280 × 720, 2:44
>>4952
>facebook and twitter lose billions does not even effect the tech stock market.

Stocks from companies like Facebook or Tesla get bought because they are in the news all the time, if the media says Facebook has a new all time high then people buy and the price gets up to a new all time high. If they release bad numbers the price drops and after a few weeks it's back up where the media can speak about a all time high again.

Look at Tesla stocks, they don't even care about Tesla as much, they react way more to positive/negative news about Elon Musk and SpaceX.
Tesla went up when Elon Musk said he's sending that weird submarin to Thailand and then it went down around 9€ after Musk called that one British guy a pedophile on Twitter.

Investors are sheep and you have to follow the herd, that's why i recommend smaller companies. There are less sheep and less news, that makes it easyer.
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No. 4955
>>4954
>Investors are sheep and you have to follow the herd, that's why i recommend smaller companies.
Eggsplain
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No. 4956
>>4955
Negative news = The herd sells, you have to follow or you lose at least on short term.
Positive news = The herd buys, chances for profit are high if you follow at least on short term.

If you buy stocks of some small transistor or software company you have to be way less flexible or "up to date" because those companies don't produce news every 30 minutes and their bosses don't have celebrity status so you don't have to worry that you lose money because the CEO got caught how he didn't clean his dogs shit from the street.

The best thing you can do is to learn how people react to different things, that's way more usefull than analising numbers all day long.
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No. 5264
90 kB, 787 × 646
Rate my pic related story

Waiting for comeback now.
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No. 5312
>>5264
Lmoa 4/7,6265000433 + rands(0,1)
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No. 5323
>>5264
>buy high, sell low strategy detected
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No. 5324
I have enough money to start but I feel like I'll just waste it because I don't know shit about trading.
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No. 5338
Protip: Buy everything related to Lithium mining. The Brazilian in the news thread is right.
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No. 5376
>>5338

Never invest in mining or agriculture. Especially ag
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No. 5382
>>5376
I'm curious to know the reason. Are shares in ag and mining too volatile or something?
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No. 5384
156 kB, 519 × 562
>>5323
Nah, i keep it, the price will go back up.
It's just that i wanted to hold it for only a few days max before selling again, now i have to stick with it for an unknown amount of time.
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No. 5441
>>5382

Mining is too capital intensive. Need to build power lines, railway tracks, mills and other heavy infrastructure. Your company will always have its hand out conducting a capital raise, or entering into joint ventures with bad terms in order to spread the risk. It makes the operating margins paper-thin and the net margins often close to zero. And that's before you consider that they have no control over the cost of their product (metal spot prices)

Ag is too dependent on the weather and consumer taste trends. It too is plagued by having completely unpredictable market prices for its produce. This generates patchy revenue and profit figures, and therefore disqualifies the sector from being investment grade
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No. 5444
>>5441
Wow, you really know your stuff eh. Have a perspective on biotech or pharma you're willing to share? How about medical device companies?
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No. 5445
>>5444
Pharma companies get in trouble when they lose patents for good selling products but that is easy to find out beforehand, otherwise they seem to be pretty safe as far as i know.

Safe bets are usually producers of cars and semiconductors.
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No. 5482
>>5445
I would avoid all car producers, due to falling demand and the finance agreements.

Investing in mining companies seems popular, but will not comment.
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No. 5550
>>5482
>I would avoid all car producers, due to falling demand and the finance agreements.

They are usually stable af.
Look at Daimler after that whole diesel outrage for example, the price went down a lot and a few weeks later it was on a new alltime hight.

I remember that my grandpa bought Daimler stocks for 20.000€ or so because he saved some money and now didn't know what to do with it somewhere around that time and a few weeks later he got out with a profit of 1600€ after taxes.
I assume that this is mostly because the car industry has such a huge lobby behind them that, at least in Germany, companies like VW and Daimler have more political influence than most politicians.

They're definitely a safe bet for long term investment.
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No. 5560
>>5482
VW peaked during the last months in 2017, so I went for it with almost 10K. I still hold

T. Buy high, mabye sell low
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No. 5576
>>5550
Well I can't find a worthy article worth posting, and as always do your own research before investing.
My concerns;
A number a car manufactures have financed new car purchases, though leasing deals
New car purchases are falling
No. of cars sold is artificially high due leasing and finance arrangements.
Millions is being wasted on electric car R&D
International trade tariffs
Diesel Gate
Higher reliability means less need to purchase a new vehicle.
Most new car buyers are boomers and they are dieing off.
Brexit.

While not all separate points, any of those reasons would make me weary, of holding car stocks.
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No. 5691
>>5576
>>5550
I don't know why you'd want to invest in cars but say minerals is too risky. There is huge demand for it particularly anything electronics related and that is highly unlikely to ever be disrupted. It's just volatile. Meanwhile demand for cars may be almost as good as dentistry in some cases but look at things like 2008 the only reason major car manufacturers are still around is because the government kept them afloat. GM would otherwise be dissolve by now. And your major market is going to be the developing world with things like China, which maybe if it's some recognizable German thing would be a safe bet but I'd imagine they're already heavily developing their own internal markets.
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No. 9502
35 kB, 711 × 413
>>5264
~1,5 month later and comeback is real

Never buy high sell low
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No. 9504
>>4852
It is hillbilly/bydlo insurance and retirement fund.
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No. 9938
34 kB, 800 × 600
Wow I had no idea a Chinese fake identification was that pricey
https://www.havocscope.com/fake-id/
Or that apparently counterfeit lighters make up that large a segment of the market share of world black market goods.
https://www.havocscope.com/
https://www.havocscope.com/tag/counterfeit-aircraft-parts/
You know, up until the last several years I had expected that there would be at least some people who are smart enough to see what China is deliberately doing who work for our government, but nowadays I don't. It seems patently obvious to me that China is waging a full scale economic war against the planet. By selling shoddy goods you also manage to sabotage everyone else's economy while growing yours. It is a tool of warfare and soft power.