Oh doge maybe the psyops is mushing my brain.
I am the one who asked "what about Amnesty International" 2 times. I did NOT read the report and I also did not try to do any research, I just heard or read a lot of different opinions concerning the Ukraine report on the net so I dunno shite, I am not informed or at the very least informed enough, if that is even possible as an observer on the net*, to decide what to make of it. I do know a bit what they do and always liked or rather respected them. I find their work to be necessary and righteous.
*Yeah, that can be expanded to a lot of topics and happenings and people. [realization that I know jack shit intensifies]
I assume my intention was to hear your takes and I think it still is.>>78422
>me: No opinions on the Amnesty International thing?
>No idea whether report is truthful and honest (it's a question for our armchair military experts) but it provides interesting moral dilemma. Let's suppose that it's true. Should they publish it if main result of it will be Russian army more actively targeting residential areas? In other words, "Amnesty's report endangers civilians".
Oh doge, this complicated dilemma makes my head screech. Why. I just don't... Do I have cognitive dissonance if I wanna do two opposing things at once? It is kinda to late imo if they publish it after shit is done, but if the publishing does lead to more causalities... WHAT HAVE YOU DONE lel.
Maybe my mind is refusing to accept that the 2 sides are more similar than I think or thought. Screeeech. Nevertheless, it has to be made public... Right now, eventually, after the war? Doge... Probably right now.
Thanks for your take brea.>>78547
>Amnesty are typical self-hating westoids. They criticize Ukrainian tactics yet they have no problems with tactic of Hamas. Moreover, they constantly seethe about Israel. That's because in their worldview Ukraine and Israel are AmeriKKKa's fascist client states while Hamas and Putin are noble savages who only act violently because they were provoked.
Probably a legit observation, first time I hear or at least remember this take concerning Amnesty since it is not an uncommon take for leftists (Israel, West bad; ""Savages"", Hamas "good"), I think I did know about the lack of Amnesty reports about Hamas using civilian infrastructure, I am not sure anymore... Wait, I think I did read at least one similar take without ofc obv your wording and the mention of Hamas. Well, you certainly fired my synapses more upp.
I just searched the web for a very short time and could not find any reports of Amnesty saying Hamas is using civilian infrastructure, I even found Amnesty reports outright denying it. From what I knew that was an established, but often denied, fact and I cannot imagine Amnesty being right here. They, I mean Amnesty does seem to seethe about Israel.
Whatever is true, Amnesty DOES bash Hamas for 3842384 other reasons, a lot of them just as bad if not worse.
Thanks for your take bruv.
Some rumours and comments I also heard/read (before I asked here about Amnesty) but did not confirm:
-Local Amnesty branches are pissed at the report and/or higher ups, also lacking internal communication and communication with the regional branch
-Russia was able to influence the report, some sources for the report were Russian, as in from government controlled sources
-Ukraine failed to evacuate areas, Ukr does not evac, started evacuation too late, disregarded some areas, some areas resist evac, tactical situation - whatever the fuck that means, forced Ukr troops to use civilian buildings, or they just willingly dug in in cities which kinda sounds plausible, but did or did they not evac surrounding areas? That is obviously the question...
-Ukr has to do so to defend civ areas, Ukr is lacking in strength and has to make up by doing it - tactical situation, huh?
-Russia will use the report to say Ukr does the same (already happend afaik)
-Amnesty has the right to critique since reasons
, like stuff already mentioned above
-the report is legit since it bashes both sides but mostly the Russian aggressor
-report is BS/true because Mariupol (Evac, flattened the city and probably over 10k dead/wounded, who is more at fault)
Obviously Russia claimed Ukraine was and did x and y before the report, duh.
Maaan, I cannot be arsed to dig, once I start the excavation...