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No. 78847 Systemkontra
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Other germans = slow
Me = fast
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No. 78848
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I lurk less because I have stuff to do, so no starters from me it seems.
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No. 78850
>>78846

objective AI of course
Think ahead before you speak, you are on a German imageboard after all :DDD
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No. 78851
So this posse of zoomers rolls up at the midnight kiosk just as I'm finished paying for my cheap piss lager. They're all dressed in the latest edgy fashion, you know black baggy sports clothes, all of them are at least a head taller than me because of the GMO beef hormones and shit. While I'm out here looking like a slightly taller but no less fat 50 year old patton oswalt looking mother fucker with my stupid polo shirt and oversized shorts. They could easily beat the shit out of me if they wanted to. I used to be the biggest guy around in our high school a decade ago, but that doesn't count for shit now. Fucking monsanto.
So anyway.
And what do these yutes buy? A 2 liter coca cola, a big bag of lays chips and a pack of tutti frutti jelly beans for the fat one.

What the fuck is wrong with kids these days?

I know for a fact that this particular kiosk store doesn't give a shit about drinking age law, because I've been buying from here since I was underage, so what gives? They didn't even buy cigarettes.
Disgraceful.
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No. 78852
Other Germans = Can live with not making a new Today thread
You = Throwing a temper tantrum

So, we let you do it. I'll think twice next time since you are such a dick about that.
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No. 78853
>>78852
Na, biste mad?
Also,
>temper tantrum
Ach Ernst, the op picture didn't have anything to do with my mood :3
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No. 78854
I had an interesting experience today. I spoke with some Mormons I'd met a couple of weeks ago outside my flat, we discussed LDS theology and such in a nearby park overshadowed by some abbey ruins. I'm - technically - Christian through upbringing, though my beliefs could be better described as a somewhat hand-wavy Hegelian Gnosticism, and I was surprised to the degree by which certain passages in their funky book more or less chimed with my existing beliefs about the Universe and the evolution of human consciousness etc. Still, I have no intention of converting since I think I would make for a poor Mormon. A nice experience I would say, they are kindly and sincere people which is increasingly a rarity in my country.
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No. 78855 Kontra
>>78852
I think you confuse different Germans, maybe you shouldn't put so much seriousness into your complaints.
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No. 78856
I went by a hotel a few minutes ago and the exhaust air together with the damp air outside and the smell of some piny tree aroused a strong feeling of holidays in southern Europe in me.
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No. 78857 Kontra
>>78856
I forgot two other ingredients for this feel. The nighttime and the light beam of a sodium vapor lamp.
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No. 78858 Kontra
Making good progress with the HFZ’s translation. The more I do it the easier it gets. I just wonder what my thesis supervisor will say. I mean, I feel in charge right now, but I might be churning out absolute garbage for all I know.

Started reading 1984 for an essay. I’m full of ideas already.
I just hope the workshop supervisor actually likes it.

I’m feeling a lot better. Except for that one episode today where for some reason I threw up before lunch. Don’t know what caused it. I’m banking on the salami I put on the toast going bad.
That or the unbearable heat.

Reverted to dumbphone again.
Also I had a weird moment last night and spent like 6 bucks on a DVD of “Diary of a Country Priest”.
I’m a real movie guy y’know. I’ll own two movies on disk. Both of them black and white lmao.

It’s raining. Good for the plants.
Little dog is sleeping next to me. It’s nice.

Also I am now a true niche internet microcelebrity, for I now have over 150 followers on the American bird app for people suffering from ADHD.

>>78854
This is like the third time I see “LDS theology” and read it as “LSD theology for a split second and get interested, only to realize it’s just Mormonism. (Not that Mormons aren’t exciting in their own way, mind you.)

>>78851
Just because you saw two milquetoast kids who bought a bag of crisps and a cola it doesn’t mean zoomers aren’t out there doing degenerate shit like (synthetic) weed, alcohol and cigarettes.
Oh don’t weep for them.
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No. 78859
It's so hot, it's just so hot, it's unbearable, I am constantly sweating, not profusely, not droplets (except under my chin for some reason, not fat-Ernst), but I am constantly moist and greasy and grimy and just can't feel comfortable.
Drinking hot stuff doesn't help in this situation, obviously, because I am already sweating. In fact, eating anything also makes me sweat. I hate summer and I hate badly isolated old houses.
And tomorrow I will have to spend at least half of the day in a suit. Don't weep for me, I am already dead.
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No. 78860
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>>78859
>And tomorrow I will have to spend at least half of the day in a suit.
Are you going to marry?
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No. 78861
>>78860
No, not me.
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No. 78862
>>78859
>It's so hot, it's just so hot, it's unbearable
Close to midnight? Did Bavaria finally go to hell? (if that is where you are, anyway)
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No. 78863
>>78862
West window + not being able to open window + old badly isolated house + laptop on my bare legs + couch that keeps warm in winter, but warmer in summer + having an upper temperature tolerance of ~24C after which it's just "too hot".
I could wander to a colder part of the house, but wouldn't have any wifi reception anymore, but shitposting on the sidechain of a german version of a laotian cat cooking forum is too important to do that. And I would still have the problem with the laptop heat and my inherent sensitivity to high temperatures.
As you can see, I can't change anything about my situation right now and have to suffer. Oh, how I have to suffer, it's indescribable.
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No. 78864
>>78863
Just die, you'll be Ernstchan's first martyr. The holy Bavarius.
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No. 78865
>>78864
I can't be a martyr if I don't die for something though, else I'll just be a sweaty corpse.
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No. 78866
>>78863
>but shitposting on the sidechain of a german version of a laotian cat cooking forum is too important
There's your something
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No. 78867
>>78866
But that's something I'd rather live for.
Would YOU die for Ernstchan?
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No. 78868
>>78867
I would KILL for ersntchan, that's for certain.
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No. 78869
>>78868
Then you have my post.
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No. 78871 Kontra
Alcohol, anxiety. I'm not ready for my travels.
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No. 78872
>>78871
>Alcohol, anxiety
Sounds for me like you are ready to blend in with about any european culture.
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No. 78874
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Went out on the sea yesterday. It was nice. Wasn't so insanely hot as on land and water temperature was just right for swimming. Though now I'm physically butthurt as the boat had hard seats and we were going pretty fast. Strange how tense it felt coming back to dock in complete darkness. You couldn't see shit on the water at that point and had to rely on computers to stay alive. Pic4 was around that time, but it's long exposure. In reality it was much darker.
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No. 78877
>>78874
Cozy pictures, thanks for sharing
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No. 78882
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tfw the sound system at my gym abruptly cuts from club beats to The Cure...

>>78868
1.Kill for Ernstchan
2.Get caught
3.Sent to electric chair
4.Ernstchan martyrdom
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No. 78883
>>78882
>1.Kill for Ernstchan
I don't need anyone killed. You go ahead and suggest a target.
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No. 78884
Here is a etiquette question:

My housemate is moving out of the flat that he'd moved into before me. He's quite eccentric and monied so the place had everything when I arrived but now that he's moving out he's actually taking everything with him including small uncostly details i.e. the plates, glasses, cutlery and bowls.

He's well within his rights of course because he paid for them but still it strikes me as a little...shitty, to remove the things you customarily leave behind. I don't know, it makes me a little reflective on how human beings operate in relationships between partnerships and those with people you won't have to see again. He's really done a 180 lately when it comes to money. The new guy even wanted to move in early to save on a B&B but, despite current housemate having moved all his stuff out a week early, he still wanted money for the weeks' rent.

To add, he's really not poor or in any way hard up. He's a well-known photographer who makes 10k for a days work just that he's personality has flipped into a 'fuck you I got mine' lately despite my own nature carrying on to be highly communal like tea and the odd bit of cooking. He also wants to dump his bonsai on me that I'm ambivalent on at best because I'm not a bonsai-guy.

>>78854
>they are kindly and sincere people

I find this as well.

One of my anecdotes is that I accidentally went on a date with one once who, paradoxically, was a Chinese nationalist which was an experience, she'd basically ended up a Mormon because some guy had friendzoned her for 8 years in China and her parents had never been around when she was growing up. Basically the kind of person who is ripe for ending up in a cult because she was desperate for love and acceptance. I dumped her pretty quickly before I ended up in a cult but, fuck me, I sometimes think at what could've been, you' know when someone really opens up to you about their vulnerabilities and it only makes you fall head over heels because you then recognise another human being.

They're a nice people, it's just a shame their community is complete batshit and even active bullies to those who leave. I guess that's how they can have special Mormon underwear that can coincidentally only be bought from the church on top of your 10% tip.
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No. 78885
>>78884
Fun fact, rich people STAY rich by not giving away money or things.

Also, look up what selling a bonsai would get you. Just so I don't have to do it.
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No. 78887
>>78885
I don't think rich people are as stingy as you present it despite the fact that people are not getting richer by living spartan, they found a way to make money to pay for nice things and still have enough to invest etc., rich people will give away things and leave things behind when they have no use for it etc. have seen it happen but I wouldn't be surprised if he wants his shit for the new place. I don't want to buy new cutlery and stuff when I like the old ones and I brought it all in. In my personal case I would take some special kitchen tools with me and perhaps consider leaving behind the Ikea plates my father gave me because he has no use for them. On the other hand, I can understand the Brit because I moved in here and many things have been left by people living here before and nobody knows how they got here nor did I have to pay a fee for stuff left.
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No. 78889
>>78885
Ah we're talking about a ginseng - the Coldplay of the bonsai world, fetches about £20 new and pretty.

Point taken on rich people. Some of the biggest skin-flints I've ever known have been old money, the kinds of people it is beaten into as children to guarantee inter-generational wealth and avoid parasites exploiting them. That said, this guy spends money like it's his job to stimulate the economy and doesn't budget because his income always exceeds his outgoings, very much of the nouveau riche.

>>78887
>On the other hand, I can understand the Brit because I moved in here and many things have been left by people living here before and nobody knows how they got here nor did I have to pay a fee for stuff left.

Yeah this, it's not things of any value or really worth the hassle of packing so it could easily be construed as spiteful. Plus he's moving in with his girlfriend who in all likelihood has a specific idea on the cutlery they will be using.

Oh well, I just went to the supermarket and bought a couple bowls, plates and cups like I'm on my way to the ark. In a broader sense it's been nice in a way to decorate the kitchen how I like it with decent items even if I was very cross indeed when I found out how much good barstools cost these days. I'm waiting for the new guy to come in so we can split the cost of the shared living room and see what he wants to do with it. For me I almost could leave it bare aside from a fold out couch for a guest.
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No. 78890
>>78889
>ginseng
Make a tea out of it or whatever
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No. 78891
>>78889
He hates you and now that you won't see each other ever again he can do stuff that would make having to live together hell (for both sides).
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No. 78895
It rained a lot today, so after having breakfast I went back to bed and slept listening to the rain. It felt really good.
Otherwise the day was uneventful. I wasted it reading manga, watching youtube and talking with family.

Translated another paragraph of the HFZ. I only have two left and I’m done with chapter two. I can’t wait to show it to my supervisor. (Though I think he will tear my little artistic trills and frills a new one because in parts it’s not word-for word.)

I’m feeling good. Real fucking good.
Tomorrow I will go out and help wetting the applicants to the workshop.

National day was uneventful, fireworks were cancelled. They will do them next week.
Same goes for the “Victory over inflation beer”, which would have costed 350HUF mug just like before shit hit the fan.
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No. 78931
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We should make "Marxist" a marketable term, like how "hardcore" became a marketing term originating with genres of pornography and eventually becoming mainstream, to the point where it's used to describe video games and such.

Turn commodification against the capitalist pigs. Hang them with the rope they sell.
So instead of saying "I play hardcore games", the youths would instead say "I only play Marxist games for Marxist gamers such as myself".
Or for music genres. You thought "hardcore punk" was edgy? How about "Marxist punk"?

Hell, go back to the roots and apply it to porn as well. "Dude, I'm so desensitized, liberal pornography does nothing for me. I can only cum to Marxist quadruple penetration videos".

We should also start using "liberal" as a substitute to "casual" and "softcore".
"You're a fake gamer girl. I bet you only play liberal games like Peggle and Farmville. Unlike a real Marxist gamer such as myself".
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No. 78933
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>>78931
I thought that's what already happened, long time ago. Dictators from exotic countries and red flags are so fashionable.
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No. 78935
>>78933
Yes, but being anti-capitalist is like the poser version for those too afraid to go all the way. Everyone is against capitalism, it's just that they're also too cowardly to present an alternative. Hell, fucking vegan green party liberals are "against capitalism".

But "Marxist" is still a no-no word. It's edgy, it's contrarian, it's hip.
And after we make that mainstream, we could move on to the next stage of brainwashing agitprop, and make "communist" a cool thing to be again.

Yes, I'm a communist, and?
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No. 78936
>>78935
Cmon, where is "Marxist" edgy and contrarian? In Estonia? Or among "Fox News" watching boomers?
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No. 78937
>>78936
On the most important battlefield of the 21st century - internet message boards.
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No. 78939
>>78937
Imageboards are the opposite of mainstream (at least in west).
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No. 78942 Kontra
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>>78937
This lol. Nobody accepts marxism in a liberal-capitalist society, it reeks of extremism. Good old horseshoe mindset. Killing burgis and overturning the economy big time are not cool and accepted exclamations contrary to what people on EC tend to believe when see themselves living among totalitarian leftist regime already.
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No. 78944
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I have a hard time stringing together 3-4 or 5 coherent and readable paragraphs on the key beliefs/aspects of classical cognitivism/classic artificial intelligence (the formal rule-based operating systems = intelligence kinda thing) which indicates I did not understand it but only have a lose idea. Probably need to look for an appropriate historiographical account that does summarize it for me. I have a shitton of sources that critique cognitivism and given that this chapter was planned to be a quarter of the paper presenting the transition from symbolic AI to connectionism and the role of the brain in it as central argument, I can easily make it a third of the paper. But I guess a well-streamlined text will be just a quarter and I will try to do so.
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No. 78946
>>78942
> Good old horseshoe mindset
Well, that's an obvious bullshit. Far-left are absolutely tolerated in west, while far-right are persecuted as much as it's possible in liberal democracies. I know, you wanna see yourself "not like other girls" and counterculture but that's just factually not true. Like it or not, but real hardcore punks these days are 4channers. It's they who get canceled, fired from their jobs and added to no-fly lists for their views, not you.
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No. 78948
Tbh fishhook theory is far more descriptive of the situation.
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No. 78949
>>78946
Well, that's because leftists are no longer a threat after being violently purged in the 20th century.
Open fascists facing nothing more than getting fired from a job is some baby shit.
And notice how they are actually given a voice. The fact that they are permitted to whine about being cancrlled instead of quietly disappearing is a sign of tacit approval. In a world where amazon has special algorithms for detecting union organizers and getting rid of them, all you hear is news about some racist getting fired. Funny.

There's been state sanctioned assassinations of union leaders, civil rights activists, black panthers, etc., but nothing similar ever happened to the KKK or the likes, really makes you think.
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No. 78950 Kontra
>>78946
If you think far left is shouting defund the police on a peaceful demonstration you are looking south when I said north. Germans who went to fight in Rojava against Turkey and ISIS are confronted with prison upon return because they have been taking part in an international terror organization (PKK) Far-leftism is rar in Germany contrary to rightwing action that has surged dramatically. Have you seen any people with leftist worldview going out and killing among other things upon behalf of these beliefs? You don't because a) you don't live in Germany or the west or you are the delusional rightwing Deutschrusse.
Anyway, stop baiting.
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No. 78951
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>>78949
> are no longer a threat
OK, we've come to agreement that now far-left are NOT persecuted unlike radicals from the other side.

> after being violently purged in the 20th century.
Yeah, remember American tanks in Moscow and how Molotov was hanged in Nuremberg? Something which never happened to far-right.

> Open fascists facing nothing more than getting fired from a job is some baby shit.
Not just open fascists, but anyone remotely resembling them like that google employee who spoke out against affirmative action. And even this "baby shit" doesn't happen even to open Marxists.

> And notice how they are actually given a voice
Are they? Dailystormer is banned on the level of domain registration providers, so he uses Russian company. Other far-rights are purged from all platforms and when they try to make alternative platforms, pic related. Leftists use social networks freely. Bunkerchan uses cloudfare's services.

> in a world where amazon has special algorithms for detecting union organizers and getting rid of them, all you hear...
Yes, for some reason MSM don't cover this story...
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/apr/09/amazon-union-organization-staten-island
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/24/how-amazon-prevents-unions-by-surveilling-employee-activism.html
https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/10/6/21502639/amazon-union-busting-tracking-memo-spoc
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/12/02/amazon-workplace-monitoring-unions/
Or wait, they do.
Have you considered a possibility of that you've stuck in a communist echo chamber and your perception of reality is somewhat biased?
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No. 78952
>>78950
> Have you seen any people with leftist worldview going out and killing among other things upon behalf of these beliefs?
Yes, I have. Some of examples:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/breaking-exclusive-information-uncovered-overnight-shows-highland-park-shooter-bobby-crimo-tied-socialists-progressives-antifa-occult/
https://www.rt.com/usa/499975-antifa-shooter-stalked-victim/
Good question is why you haven't? Probably because MSM don't cover such cases same way as far-right shootings and big-tech gives them lower priority?

> Anyway, stop baiting.
Baiting?
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No. 78953 Kontra
>>78950
>Have you seen any people with leftist worldview going out and killing among other things upon behalf of these beliefs?
RAF has been a thing, you know? But right now it's the rightwingers turn and when the next government is far-right we will get a surge in leftist violence again.
It's all a merry circle.

That said, ask yourself why "the right is rising again" and maybe ask yourself if the shitty politics of the last decades (with the SPD meddling along in 4 of the 5 last governments) could maybe have something to do with it.
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No. 78956
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I can safely say translated Marxism as an ideological blank is a traditional tool of our national political establishment. After the revolution, the democratic center defined itself under these terms and for a long while the Socialist Party battled the Social-Democrat Party and the Communist party. Reading their proclamations at face value, one may believe that the triumvirate of victorious popular fronts established a socialist revolutionary regime aimed at liberating the masses from imperialism, colonialism and capitalist exploitation. For a while, reactionary forces from within the military justified their methods with reference to the principles of historical materialism!
Previously, it was VERY edgy to be a Marxism - criminal even. Now it's just being left of center. Dialectics, some say.

>>78942
>Nobody accepts marxism in a liberal-capitalist society, it reeks of extremism. [...] Killing burgis and overturning the economy big time are not cool and accepted exclamations
But why does Marxism have to reek of extremism in a 'liberal-capitalist' society? It doesn't here perhaps we are still a liberal-feudal society?. Leninismo only partially does bear a mean streak but adherence to Lenin's doctrine is a proud slogan of a foundational political force. It can be seen on posters and it isn't even the edgiest of legal and historical parties. Marxismo is when you care about the poor and Leninismo is when the Party sticks together. Remember that Lenin himself was a democrat.

As posts above show, the question of 'is far-right or far-left more oppressed here?' is generally answered by the position on the political-autistic spectrum of the person involved.
Except this,
>>78946
>>78949
These are peripheral people of Eurasia with western mental influences discussing life in politicized America.

For the political, this all speaks to a greater narrative of imagining which 20th century symbol is the edgiest in your society.
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>>78956
> These are peripheral people of Eurasia with western mental influences discussing life in politicized America.
Well, we were talking about fashion initially. Eurasoids look up to westerners and consider same things cool as westerners do. For example, anti-western Barnaul alt-rights are to some extent just a shadow of their American co-believers. Dialectics!

But there is more of it. Old grumpy boomers here are economically leftist, socially conservative. So for youth it's comme il faut to have the opposite views. However truly fashionable zoomers who are in contact with west know that "in the big land" it's fashionable to jerk off to Zizek. Representative example is Nika Votvud, our most popular feminist. She was libertarian but then went to exchange study to Amerika and learnt about horrors of capitalism and charms of intersectional feminism.

And fashion is itself a dialectical thing. If other girrrrls wear blue dresses, then it's fashionable to wear green dress. But once it become mainstream, blue dresses become fashionable again.
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No. 78965
The older I get, the more aware I am of my character flaws and my shortcomings.
I can identify them and how they might affect my judgement and behavior, yet I can not always act against them.
It also makes me more meek with each passing year and has me doubting everything more and more.
I also realized that most of these traits are traits my mother also possesses.
Basically I am turning into my mother, but with a male mind. And it IS a tragedy, so fuck you Oscar.

I also realized the main reason I am not vastly more successful than I am in reality is because of my lack of drive and I have been wondering if that is the main thing all those very successful people have in common. Drive, motivation, actually doing shit. Of course, having rich parents help, but rich parents don't help if you're a slacker. An oligarch sonbasket is still a sonbasket.
I noticed this when I painted an apartment, 64 m², in one day, with eating one sandwich inbetween and apart from that only taking breaks for drinking water because I was sweating like a pig. And I just worked and worked and worked. I have done these things before (I wrote my master thesis during one all-nighter), but the problem is that I often lack any kind of motivation. I am aware of the potential benefits but won't act upon them.

To some these insights might sound trivial and obvious, but I really didn't properly start self-reflecting until my mid-20s. I also never had anyone to really talk to whom I would expect to understand me, because day after day I see that I just run completely asynchronous with other people. Ernst will also not understand, but that's ok. I just had to blogpost this somewhere, out of an inner urge.
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No. 78966
>>78965
>I noticed this when I painted an apartment, 64 m², in one day, with eating one sandwich inbetween and apart from that only taking breaks for drinking water because I was sweating like a pig. And I just worked and worked and worked. I have done these things before (I wrote my master thesis during one all-nighter), but the problem is that I often lack any kind of motivation. I am aware of the potential benefits but won't act upon them.

I know this feeling. Especially doing things at the last moment but also being a very good worker when it comes to tasks like painting. I've been procrastinating on my application to move up on the career ladder for a year because I have to list shit I've done. It could be done in a night or two but I can't seem to stick at it.

I hate my boss, I hate my bosses boss and I hate my bosses bosses boss and my job has changed so much it's become just a job. And yet I suffer.
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No. 78967 Kontra
>>78953
1) I was talking of the present and the last decade or so, obviously the RAF, Brigate Rosse and such existed. I have sifted through some Verfassungsschutzberichte of the 1970s, 80s and 90s once and the left was big then but with every decade it got less and less and certainly no actual potential to do any serious harm.
2) Yeah the politics of the past years has got to do with, SPD is not marxism and you have the CDU as well
3) right wing political rise doesn't come out of anywhere, it reaches back to the 1970s more or less, so basically we see the fruit of decades and opportunities used. Blaming the SPD is a rather cheap move just because they introduced an actual far-reaching neoliberal policy that is Hartz IV (CDU was working on neoliberal policies before, generally conservatives were fighting/firing discourse for such policies in the 1980s), this political potential is not just a reaction to SPD politics.

>>78952
The first link gave me eye cancer. And I don't mean the /pol/ style evidence taking that is probably also photoshopped due to other sources.
The second is not available since rt is banned in EU it seems.
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No. 78968 Kontra
>>78965
I don't know these things seem pretty normal thoughts. What I can observe with myself is that indeed 5 years ago in my mid-twenties I was quite a bit different in my self-reflection. I mean we have these terrible shitting up board discussions but I'm generally aware that the arguments aren't very well refined at many times. Holes are never far away and when I was younger I was very blind to this.
It's bad that you cannot talk about this because that is how you can learn the most when it comes to this. But given that I think these are normal thoughts there are plenty of fish in the sea that should understand what you talk about. Hopefully, it is not grumpy ignorance holding you back.
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No. 78970
>>78967
> I only view links approved by government censorship
Anti-establishment communist spotted.

>>78935
> it's just that they're also too cowardly to present an alternative.
It's just that alternative looks weak regardless of society's attitude to it. You can say "we want to do the same as Pol Pot and Lenin did" and you won't be persecuted for that. But even in the most prosperous socialists countries there was nothing special what wouldn't be available to westerners while there were a lot of drawbacks. Much more pleasant activity is to blame capitalism for all the imaginable adversities (from racism to unhappy marriages) with inherit assumption that once capitalism is no more, they all will somehow magically disappear.
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No. 78976 Kontra
>>78970
I save time and energy by not choosing a proxy to click a gonzo headline
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No. 78978
Went out to drink with the workshop applicants for a round of “informal interviews”. They were a nice bunch and we talked a lot. Mostly told them about the stucture of our organisation and the work we do. I only drank two fizzy drinks. I didn’t want to repeat the march through hell the last time I had a beer, especially now that I feel really good.

Today I’ll be on one of the evaluation committees because they needed an extra person due to a mishap. Nothing too hard.
I have to read their CV’s again and so on. Basically I got like a 2-3 day trial of HR busywork.
Most infuriating bit about reading these is the ego some of the people can have things. Like opening with “I come from a family of intellectuals” and then a quarter of it is just listing what their family does which almost makes me wish I could be a proletkult commissar and just throw the CV in the fucking bin.
Some also failed to grasp the concept of “long form CV”. Or that it needs to be in Hungarian.

This makes me realize I have two parts, one is a crule square who wishes to do everything by the book and punish even for the smallest mistake, and the other is all too human and forgiving. I usually let the latter one win for some reason.
I’d be a pretty bad dictator I suppose.
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No. 78980 Kontra
>>78967
>Blaming the SPD is a rather cheap move just because they introduced an actual far-reaching neoliberal policy that is Hartz IV
I am not blaming the SPD as a whole, but the SPD is, in most people's heads, still "socialist", just like a lot of people still think the Greens are for peace, family and environment, that the CDU not a bunch of corpse-devouring ghouls and that the FDP actually cares for small companies.
And in this perception, the CDU has certainly shifted left as much as the SPD has shifted right (as evidenced by the unholy blob that was the GroKo) and while the chief motivation to import lots of (uneducated) middle easterners was certainly economically driven, because they are cheap labor and also perfect consumers, it was mainly the left/green who tried to sell it as "cultural enrichment" and "we need more professionals" - all while especially the fairy tale of "Fachkräftemangel" came from the industry to reduce wages.
And I think everyone agrees that the disgusting pandering to Islam and muslims was/is also not much of a smart move.
So you have
a) conservative "christians" who fear their occidental culture is being replaced by islamic culture and
b) the kind of people who have to actually compete with the immigrants for jobs, but unlike the immigrants they are not willing to work for as little money as the immigrants.
And right there some rich-kid green youth who will never be in that situation because if their something with media degree fails they can still work at daddy's company tells them they're of nazi.
And this leads to dissent and a deep sentiment of rejection for all red/green politics.
The modern left is not a worker's thing anymore and has instead been co-opted by corporations and most people are aware of that.
Hell, globalization criticism used to be a left-wing talking point not too many years ago; now you're a rightwinger if you insinuate that globalization might not be a good thing.
Ernst Thälmann is probably rotating in his grave.
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No. 78986
>>78970
>But even in the most prosperous socialists countries there was nothing special what wouldn't be available to westerners
The levels of equality. Also those levels of social security normally require hybrid capitalist systems with the total taxes reaching ~75% anyway.
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No. 78987 Kontra
>>78980
>And right there some rich-kid green youth who will never be in that situation because if their something with media degree fails they can still work at daddy's company

Sound more like BWL or Jura, since greens I associate with professional class that is usually nothing more than white-collar work not owning anything besides a house or flat at best. Usually, it's enough to sustain kids and pay for when they do the precarious run for internships and shit before landing jobs that pay good enough to repeat the cycle.

>they are of nazi

Hating immigrants can be of nazi, I don't see this as a problem just because political decision-making resulted in pressuring wages down it's not the fault of immigrants that this happened, yet they are blamed. As usual both the Germans and immigrants are proles pitted against each other. You can receive a shit wage for horrible and arduous long work and still be a nazi or have right-wing beliefs and yes this is also due to people thinking class doesn't matter these days which was a big mistake so the right wingers jumped in to tell these people what's wrong (more social support for the (bio)Germans left behind and corrupt politicians, conspiracy theories etc.).

>The modern left is not a worker's thing anymore and has instead been co-opted by corporations and most people are aware of that.

The SPD was never revolutionary and Rosa Luxemburg knew that already 100 years ago what are you talking about? Soziale Markwirtschaft ist nicht wirklich ein linker Standpunkt.

>Hell, globalization criticism used to be a left-wing talking point not too many years ago; now you're a rightwinger if you insinuate that globalization might not be a good thing.

While in the 1990s and 2000s this was indeed a left talking point anchored in autonomist circles mainly, the far right/new right of the 1970s and 1980s were already hating on globalization as well because it meant immigration, race mixing, cultural eradication and stuff like that. So this was nothing specifically left in the last decades it just went unnoticed by media more or less since it took right-wingers quite some time to finally get good traction in public discourse. They have been quite successful in the last 10 years as we can see by the imageboard lingo that is used by people as you, who I think don't want to see themselves as right-wing, but that nonetheless reproduce their talking points and use similar arguments and lingo. It's just a correlation but maybe dwelling on imageboard the last 10 years exposed you to a lot of that talking points and arguments hence it's unsurprising that you incorporated into your thinking.
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No. 78989 Kontra
>>78987
I forgot one thing. The magical term of the left that is the solution to Germans and immigrants fighting over jerbs is: organizing. They should both know that they are getting fucked and work together to change their situation.
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No. 78990
>>78956
>These are peripheral people of Eurasia with western mental influences discussing life in politicized America.
Says the guy who is failing at learning Russian because he wants to understand Sosach memes better.

See, western bourgeoisie are like the aristocrats of old in this sense. They'll sit in their manors "studying" dumb esoteric bullshit and rationalize it as "hobbies" or whatever, but when the peasantry talking, and specifically talking about politics and the politics of their oppressors, it is suddenly a problem.

In fact, you are basically a racist. You apply double standards and deny third worlders agency, by maintaining that your interest in a foreign culture and its politics is entirely self-driven, but if third worlders are are interested in american politics and culture, it must be some kind of memetic disease they are unwittingly afflicted by.
Fuck you, racist.
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No. 78991
155 kB, 1381 × 1080
>>78986
>The levels of equality.
In what period did the Soviet Union have comparable social equality to these social democratic states? Somewhere in after the transition from chekist troikas issuing death warrants to before a well established oil money nomenklatura?
The sad truth is that the those scandinavians built so much more for so much less.
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No. 78992
>>78991
The Soviet levels of inequality deeply dissatisfied many members of the nomenklatura. That's why the Soviet Union has been dismantled in the first place. Surely nomenklatura had access to practically everything available, but the catch is that practically nothing of it was fundamentally unachievable for a Soviet citizen who wasn't a member of it (even though surely not to every citizen).

On the other hand, when income levels may differ by many orders of magnitude, it creates an entirely different situation.
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No. 78996
>>78992
>The Soviet levels of inequality deeply dissatisfied many members of the nomenklatura. That's why the Soviet Union has been dismantled in the first place.
Was it (lack of) the inequality specifically? Perhaps the personal driving will for many a political figures was not one of lacking superiority and access to western goods in comparison to someone working in a Kolkhoz in Siberia, but their lack of access to goods in comparison to their western counterparts.
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No. 78997
>>78987
> it's not the fault of immigrants that this happened, yet they are blamed
It's also not the fault of the low-class germans that this happens, yet nobody tries to take their fears away. Remember, we are not talking about aryan master race 14/88 superior to everyone shitheads (in fact I could tell an anecdote about some NPD booth where everyone looked like they would have instantly gotten the black triangle back in the good old days), but about people who do actually fear for their existence, and because those responsible do shit to alleviate those fears, they turn to those providing answers; of which kind doesn't matter.

>The SPD was never revolutionary and Rosa Luxemburg knew that already 100 years ago what are you talking about?
I never claimed the SPD was revolutionary and I wasn't really talking about the SPD in particular when I said "modern left". That the SPD has been a party of traitors for almost all of their existence is well-known.

>but that nonetheless reproduce their talking points and use similar arguments and lingo.
So what you're saying is that those talking points are invalid because they just so happen to have overlap with what some rightwinger once said? I mean yeah, it's probably pretty cool to always claim the prerogative of interpretation for yourself, that way nobody can ever say anything right if you don't agree.

>It's just a correlation but maybe dwelling on imageboard the last 10 years exposed you to a lot of that talking points and arguments hence it's unsurprising that you incorporated into your thinking.
Fun fact: I have been against globalization ever since I spent whole nights discussing communism, shall I namedrop attac too? - which was even before I started lurking imageboards (and which haven't really had any "rightwing talking points" before the mid-10s that went beyond edgy teenager shenanigans).

And just to be clear: I don't blame the immigrants for coming here. If I were promised a better life somewhere else, I would probably go, too. It's just natural, and most people just want to live in peace.
But no matter the reasons, it is a fact that lower class germans and lower class immigrants compete for the same jobs and it's not the fault of the lower-class germans that they are anxious about their existence. But it's the fault of the politics (and the media) that they are not doing anything against it and instead ostracize them. Since we all know poor and dumb people vote right. And then they turn around and complain about the rise of the alt-right.
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No. 78998
>>78996
Physically they had everything a normal person would need anyway. Apparently they just needed more conspiciuous consumption.
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No. 78999 Kontra
>>78998
At any rate, the USSR was a very unusual system where individual well-being was chiefly defined not by money (though, of course, having money was always handy, and only very high wages would allow you to forget about money completely) but by personal connections, at least as far as you were ready to exploit those.
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No. 79000
327 kB, 1553 × 953
>>78998
>Physically they had everything a normal person would need anyway
My thoughts on serfdom :DD
The USSR is certainly unique in that corruption was transferred to a question primarily of connections and social status that didn't (necessarily) translate into monetary gain. An entrepreneurial soviet citizen could exchange ballet tickets for a radio, call it barter-corruption.
Of course, the very heart of these informal connections is something that was necessary to keep the economy moving - it spawns alongside the soviet industrial project. Going through official channels was quite complex and slow - it always carried significant delays. If you didn't want to face death :DD penalties, it would be wise to procure some materials of your own initiative. Ironically, despite all of this shadow economy being wholly illegal, there were forms to write down the input from extra procurement and you better meet your quota.

Maybe someone with more knowledge could also tie it into pre-NEP forms of urban-rural barter - where certain forms of trade were both illegal and necessary. I don't know enough about the intricacies of the period's economy though and it seems like it was the industrial drive that laid the first foundational bricks of this familiar and meme Soviet corruption.

Then again, we seem to be talking about a Brezhnevite form of corruption. Different periods of the experiment carried different types of corruption. This one is the most palatable though.
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No. 79001
256 kB, 1200 × 742
>>78931
>We should also start using "liberal" as a substitute to "casual" and "softcore".
>>78967
> neoliberal policy that is Hartz IV
As I said, that already happened. Everything I don't like is "neoliberal".

>>78986
>The levels of equality.
Not really and also being equally poor is not much of attractive thing.

>>78999
Also by place of living. You simply can't buy basic goods in KOstroma because it's in 4-th category of supply. And you can't move to Moscow because "no registration - no job, no job - no registration".
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No. 79002 Kontra
235 kB, 1360 × 841
I promise I have multiple quality posts about stored and ready to go. The source material is very juicy, it has the CIA, war crimes and nationalist rhetoric. Shadow coups and bush guerilla.

I just need to, uh... Prepare a little more!
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No. 79003 Kontra
67 kB, 512 × 417
It's 31C indoors against. Dog have mercy I can't take it anymore.
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No. 79004
11 kB, 171 × 266
ok, ok, how about this one:
"Dark Marxism"

Fully understanding and internalizing Marxist thought, and Marxist analysis of history, society and economics, but being pro-capitalism anyway.

Now that's edgy! The kids will love it, they could make mad all, annoy both liberals and leftists and be the coolest kid in the discourse.
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No. 79005
111 kB, 1280 × 720
>>79004
It lacks main feature of Marxism: projecting your frustration on "capitalist society and neoliberalism". Also the "dark" thing makes it look pic related. You see through ideology while normies dig in its trashcan. You reject bourgeoisie moral and praise mass murders. You're already dark and you don't want to overdo with this thing.
So I'd recommend to stick to the vanilla version (newer version by Frankfurt school, to be precise).
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No. 79006 Kontra
>>79005
>Frankfurt School
>Marxism
u wot m8
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No. 79008
1,1 MB, 640 × 480, 0:17
I just met my landlort.
I live in this apartment for around 2 years now and the person who lived in the apartment above me moved out a few weeks ago.
My landlort seems to fix up some stuff before he rents the apartment out again.

Anyway. I met him in the staircase and said hello. Asked him about the apartment and stuff.

He looked at me for a second and said "I have to ask a very stupid question: Who are you?"

There are 6 (currently 5) parties living here and i am so quiet and unremarkable that he actually forgot i exist.
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No. 79009
28 kB, 256 × 391
>>78987
>and yes this is also due to people thinking class doesn't matter these days which was a big mistake so the right wingers jumped in to tell these people what's wrong (more social support for the (bio)Germans left behind and corrupt politicians, conspiracy theories etc.).

I don't know about this. Taking a class view to the whole issue of immigration it seems to me that even if it were broadly positive at large there will still exist harmful impacts and those are overwhelmingly felt by the lower classes least able to handle them. You don't read stories of upper class girls getting raped in English towns is a dramatic example but equally if you live in wealth you're unlikely to encounter immigrants generally outside of the elite nor do you need to worry much about competition.

This gets at the teething problems of globalisation and immigration, people don't care what happens to the working class. They don't care and then politics shifts decidedly to the right as the working class battle unemployment (because retraining the new unemployed costs money), rub elbows with immigrants (that business ever lobbies for regardless of community interests or capacity) and then get gaslight that they're racists to complain about it. There is a mistake I think you make to suggest that right wingers are the only actors here, obviously in Britain it's felt more sensitively but I think it's more chicken and egg between the far-right and a population that adopts far-right beliefs.

>>79000
I fond of James C. Scott's view of the whole mechanism compelling. These breakdowns are an inherent part to any planned system no matter the shade, it's an inherent part of the system no matter whether it's socialism or capitalism. It's still just shit because the state has an inherent drive to make reality legible and that's where the problem will lie.
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No. 79011
>>79008
*landlord

Well, happens. Did you actually meet him in person when you moved in or was this the very first time?
Apart from that, who cares?
Unless of course you have some issues that have never been fixed because you were too shy to contact him :3
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No. 79013
>>79011
>Did you actually meet him in person when you moved in

Yes. He also had to come over when a pipe on the toilet started to leak a year or so ago.
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No. 79015
>>79013
Is he old? Demented? Managing many more other houses?
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No. 79017
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5,8 MB, 3000 × 4000
Findings from LIDL.

Chicken nugget jihad was a complete success, they've retired the product and replaced with a more traditional offering of grilled chicken.

The only German bread I found was "Bavarian Mix Shortbread".

Report posted from LIDL's own Wi-Fi.
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No. 79018 Kontra
>>78997
>But no matter the reasons, it is a fact that lower class germans and lower class immigrants compete for the same jobs and it's not the fault of the lower-class germans that they are anxious about their existence

I agree with the politics, but you can still call these Germans out for the solution they came up with or were fed by others when it comes to immigrants.

>So what you're saying is that those talking points are invalid because

No, immigration is a talking point of both left and right and liberals, maybe I wasn't clear: the tone, the choice of words and some arguments are closer to right wing circles than left or liberals. https://www.transcript-verlag.de/978-3-8376-5495-0/rechte-gefuehle/ Haven't read it but this will go in the direction I'm thinking about. And I'm still convinced that imageboards where a great place to get immersed in that thinking, even when it was just mid 2010s that's ~7 years. Trump was elected in 2016, so it definitely started earlier than 2015, more like 2014 or even 2013 but since 2015 it was getting worse and worse.

>>79001
>As I said, that already happened. Everything I don't like is "neoliberal".

The reduction of welfare (non-market, too much state etc) is part of economic neoliberalism.
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No. 79019 Kontra
>>79018
> but you can still call these Germans out
No you can not. "Calling out" is exactly what is done and it does nothing but pushing them further in that direction.
Calling someone out only works if they are aware of their bullshit, but in this case they feel it's completely justified. Everyone feels they're justified, you think the average ISIS mook thinks he's actually not in the right? Do you think the people smearing jewish shops in the 30s thought they weren't doing the right thing?
You need to explain them - without being a smug douche, which is something lots of people especially left of center are not able to - what is wrong about those ideas they adapted and why.
As I said, you need to take their fears.
When someone realizes they're in the same boat as the immigrants, they won't hate them anymore for takin er jerbs.
When they realize they are in the same boat, you can get something like the original skinheads.
Who you need to call out is the agitators. But for some reason that also doesn't happen because they're not actually engaged and their bullshit exposed, but they're either ostracized/banned or just plainly ridiculed "lol nazis dumb lelell", which in turn feeds into their "we are oppressed martyrs, they can't destroy us with FACTS and LOGIC" schtick.

>Trump was elected in 2016, so it definitely started earlier than 2015, more like 2014 or even 2013 but since 2015 it was getting worse and worse.
Well, around that time the refugee crisis started, but even then on old KC they were banned to /rvss/ because both sides couldn't not throw shit all the time. This way of thinking you are talking about only works on teenage incel round-the-clock lurkers (or boomers) anyway in the dimensions you are implying:
Blaming everyone else but yourself is easy and after that it's just a matter of taste if you blame jews, women, immigrants of any kind, bougies, society, kuffar/the great Satan etc. for you being such a subhuman piece of shit.
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No. 79020
>>79019
> When someone realizes they're in the same boat as the immigrants,
Are they? One thing I don't understand about leftists: they call out nationalism, say that "national interests" are fiction because there are conflicting interests within nation and that proles should seek their own benefit.

But at the same time when talking about conflicts within class, their rhetoric suddenly changes. You need to ignore all the differences, abandon selfishness and pursue solidarity.

Why such double standards?
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No. 79021
>>79020
Because differences within one class are purely fictional and fabricated by fascists, in reality, they don't exist. Don't agree? Fucking nazi!
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No. 79022 Kontra
>>79019
>You need to explain them

I was implicating this when you call someone out you say why (arguments) but you are right, this often does not happen and it is often not implicated then. I also take the fears seriously rising prices are a problem for me as well, also I worked time contracts exclusively and most of my job life was working together with other unskilled people so I know "them". Although not all of them were unskilled, they just landed at this job that doesn't require an Ausbildung or anything of these people but yeah their solutions ain't it nonetheless.

>>79020
???

You make something up in your head, I don't understand what you mean but what are the double standards? Maybe you can elaborate on both phenomena you name and how they actually relate?
Differences between non-immigrants and immigrants are not there in class, since they belong to the same class (but can have different skin color if that is what you mean). The state is not doing what is in that class' interest hence it has to be against them and for that class. Simple, solidarity and cooperation can be had while at the same time fighting against something. How is that a double standard? You just went into lofty abstractions to prove shit...basically pulling a useless abstractions to complain about an imaginary you don't like.
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No. 79023
>>79022
> Differences between non-immigrants and immigrants are not there in class, since they belong to the same class
Yes, that's what I said. There are in same class and still have interests contradicting to each other.
Hans wants to work for 15 euro/hour. Abdul wants to live in prosperous European country and work on Hans's current job for 10 euro/hour.
Hans wants cheap gasoline. Ivan wants high oil prices.
The hairdresser wants to work 15 euro/hour. Accountant doesn't want to pay 15 euro for her haircut.

> Simple, solidarity and cooperation can be had while at the same time fighting against something
Should German workers and German capitalists have solidarity and cooperation while fighting for German interests?

Shortly, speaking:
  1. German workers and Turkish workers should ignore their conflicting interests and focus on common interests.
  2. German workers and German capitalists shouldn't ignore their conflicting interests and focus on common interests.
Double standards.
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No. 79024 Kontra
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I finally expended my last free credits of "Open"AI's real deal DALLE, the sort of AI that creates pictures of your prompts. It's shit! SHIT!!!!

It has all the issues that the free versions like mini dalle has and might even be worse as it only generates four pictures instead of nine. You don't really know if the output is garbage because of the prompt, or if it just happened to land on particularly weak samples. If you want to find out, prepare to burn your credits. It's incredibly tedious attempting to create something original and anything like a picture you have in your mind.

Yes yes it still has valid use cases, it will get better in the future, etc. etc etc. I get it. But right now it is SHIT!
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No. 79025 Kontra
>>79023
>German workers and Turkish workers should ignore their conflicting interests and focus on common interests.
>German workers and German capitalists shouldn't ignore their conflicting interests and focus on common interests.

Ok

>Double standards.

No, why? You make these conflicting interests up so that they become double standards.
While the first is I think accepted the second is not, simply because it is not in the interest of proles to fight other proles over the interests of a fictitious entity. The second is the politics of fascism btw. workers, capitalists and political leader(s) are all the same under the flag of the Reich.

But I know what your argument will be: Hans wants to fight for Germany and Ali doesn't want to fight for Germany because he is a Turk.
And I will tell you that people will want their own domination and exploitation without realizing it. Is the domination and exploitation of yourself through others in your interest? I'm sure you will try to give an affirmative answer to this... my preliminary guess: Hans is a masochist, like all Germans anyway, so riddle solved logically :DDD
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No. 79026 Kontra
>>79023
>There are in same class and still have interests contradicting to each other.

These are the interests of individuals living in capitalism where everything is mediated via price/markets btw.
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No. 79027
>>79025
> it is not in the interest of proles to fight other proles over the interests of a fictitious entity
Is it in interests of Germans to fight each other over the interests of a fictitious entity? (and I'd say that "working class" is much more fictitious entity than "Germany")
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No. 79028 Kontra
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Interviews went well. Kinda got tired by the second hour.
There were two people we were unsure about and instead of outright denying them we decided to send them in for a third round with the alumni council. (Routine stuff, it's called "Knocking on someone's head.")
I'm happy I got to take part in this process.

There was one guy who spoke four languages and had exciting interests like "Islamic Law". He ultimately joined up with the Classics Workshop instead of the Oriental Studies one. At least officially. We agreed to help him by connecting him with an Arab studies guy to suit his needs. We got along great yesterday.
What a lad honestly. I'm glad madmen like him roam our planet. I feel less alone.

Someone didn't even bother to show up to the interview. Don't know what to make of that.
There were people who had barely anything to do with Asia yet they wanted to join up with the Oriental Studies workshop for some reason.
Mostly students of economics.

I raged about how some people wrote "Intellectual family" in their CVs and honestly, one of them actually impressed me. She was a totally sweet and smart girl. Rolled a fucking 12 for life.
The other was really fucking disappointing. No vision, learning Korean cause "friends got me into it" and she named Squid Game when we asked her about Korean TV, a topic she brought up.
It's like some people have no narrative to their lives at all. Not only do they not know where they come from, but they don't know where they are going to. Like some message in a bottle they drift atop the sea of other messages in bottles. Someone might read them and chuck them back later.

In the end I can say that we had a fruitful day of administrative work. Sir Humphrey would be proud.
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No. 79029
>>79026
> These are the interests of individuals living in capitalism where everything is mediated via price/markets btw.
Wrong. In a socialist country these contradictions will still exist. Socialist economy manages to produce amount of goods each month. How should they be distributed among teachers and miners? Everyone wants to keep larger share of pie. Where to build nuclear station (with risk of disaster for nearby area)? In Zhmerinka or Chernobyl? No one wants it to be near it but everyone wants cheap energy. Make shopkeepers work at weekends or make other workers unable to shop on weekends?
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No. 79034
>>79027
"Germany" was literally made up by a bunch of aristocrats a couple hundred years ago :^)
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No. 79035
>>79027
Inside this fictious entity called Germany, leftists never get tired of reminding us that Germany did not exist until 1871, that it is a made-up country, Liberia-tier, that the holy Roman empire of the German nation wasn't holy, Roman, an empire, German or a nation, and that Germany (which does not exist) must be destroyed, because it is Nazi. Not even joking. Famous leftist slogan in Germany: >delete Germany from the map, Poland must border on France.
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No. 79036
>>78763
>I think from the POV of CogSci it's all information processing.
Well then CogSci is clearly wrong because those are obviously different categories of knowledge.
I know because I read it in a philosophy book once.
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No. 79037
>>79034
So it's just like "working class" but 50 years older. Btw Lenin was made by a couple of aristocrats 150 years ago. Is he fictitious too?

>>79035
Left-wing [handshake] right-wing: hating German shit-weaklings and their Anal-Lena Bareback
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No. 79038 Kontra
>>79035
>actually thinks all "leftists" believe that

That's equivalent to thinking that all rightoids are national-socialists while we have so much clear evidence that most right-wingers today are closer to neo-liberal agendas than to any nazi agendas.

Imagine being one of those people who think that all people leaning towards the left think alike.

Imagine being one of those people who think that all people leaning towards the right think alike.

Imagine being one of those people ignoring all evidence to the contrary, like the constant inter-group fighting on both the left and the right.

Just imagine...
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No. 79039 Kontra
>>79038
This. We should just stop talking about "left" and "right" altogether. It's just isolated cases everywhere, they don't have anything in common, let this be the era of personalized creeds.
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No. 79041
>>79037
All categorizations are fictitious, arbitrary delimiters on a continuous whole.
The only question is whether a particular categorization is "useful" for something, and what that something is.

"German" is no longer a useful categorization of people, because it no longer refers to a clearly defined thing. Or rather, the qualities and characteristics that were originally used to delineate and define the "German" no longer exist or are relevant.

Please keep in mind that we (the collective hivemind of leftists) only wish to destroy the categorization, not the entities that fall under the category themselves. That will have to come later.
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No. 79042
>>79038
>we have so much clear evidence that most right-wingers today are closer to neo-liberal agendas than to any nazi agendas

I'd argue the opposite - the predominant school of thought among the modern left is neoliberal, while right-wing movements in the West have been moving against free trade, free labour movement and the authority of supranational trade institutions. It's not so long ago in my country that supporting membership of the EU (then EC) was considered a right-wing stance, while the left was wary of losing protectionist controls over prices and labour sourcing.
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No. 79043 Kontra
>>79029
Now you list completely different interests. What do you want to say, that in a postcapitalst society people will still have problems and arguments? I never thought of that, I thought everything will be resolved in a milk&honey kind of way, woah thanks for pointing that out!

>>79036
Care to elaborate?

>>79042
>the predominant school of thought among the modern left is neoliberal

liberal progressivism is not leftism
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No. 79045 Kontra
>>79043
These "No true Scotsman" arguments around nomenclature are distinctly unhelpful. Accurately or not, such people consider themselves the political left.
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No. 79046 Kontra
>>79045
The predominant school of thought on the right and with liberals is also neoliberalism, perhaps your attempt of distinction is quite unhelpful either then and we look for something else.
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No. 79050
>>79041
>Or rather, the qualities and characteristics that were originally used to delineate and define the "German" no longer exist or are relevant.
Do we even post on the same imageboard? German spirit is very much alive, just say something about systems and the geist will be summoned.
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No. 79052 Kontra
44 kB, 615 × 593
Excel pros: is there a simple way to combine multiple tables into one? All I can find is something that involves Excel scripts (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/scripts/resources/samples/copy-tables-combine) and I feel like there must be a simpler way. The size of the tables changes all the time which either causes spill errors or empty rows if I just reference the tables in arbitrary cells.

Thank you for your time, Ernsts of ExcelCentral
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No. 79053
>>79041
Shifting the goal, I see.

> "German" is no longer a useful categorization of people, because it no longer refers to a clearly defined thing
Do you assume that Marxist categorization of "bourgeoisie" and "working class" is
  1. Clearly defined thing
  2. Useful for something (for what?)
?
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No. 79054
Would you mind taking your politics circlejerk to a dedicated thread so I can hide it?
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No. 79055
Went to the big city today.
Spent over 300 Euros on shoe-related things.
Smelled like piss almost everywhere and where it didn't, it smelled like dog shit.
This city was first place or so in quality of life (self-reported) of all german cities some time ago.
Reinforces my belief that people who enjoy living in the big city are insane.
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No. 79056
>>79053
  1. Yes. Whether you sell your labor for a living, or own property and profit off others' labor.
  2. Yes, for overthrowing the bourgeois and eradicating capitalism.
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No. 79057
>>79056
>Yes. Whether you sell your labor for a living, or own property and profit off others' labor.
What if I am a janitor, but own a house and keep bees?
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No. 79058
993 kB, 245 × 250, 0:03
>>79057
Personal property is okay. It's private property that's le bad.

The bee slavery is gonna have to go though. Watch the highly.subversive propaganda film Bee Movie to educate yourself on the struggle of the beeletariat.
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No. 79060 Kontra
>>79058
>highly subversive propaganda film
>Starring, thought up and produced by Jerry Seinfeld
I can't believe it's da joos again.
>>
No. 79061
>>79060
It's a jewish tradition to dip apple in honey.

Apple = Sin
Honey = the sweet things

So what it's telling you is that jews are trying to corrupt the sweet things until they have abolished them (for the goys). And they rub it into our faces and nobody seems to notice!!!!
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No. 79062 Kontra
61 kB, 1200 × 630
>>79055
>Smelled like piss almost everywhere and where it didn't, it smelled like dog shit.

You did regulate your big city nose implant wrong, Mister.

t. went inner city today and no piss or dog shit smells, also suspects you to be the same city but perhaps this big city doesn't rank as high in life quality rankings yet I think it does
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No. 79065
20 kB, 640 × 425
>>79043
>Now you list completely different interests
No, I don't.

> What do you want to say, that in a postcapitalst society people will still have problems and arguments?
That within "proletariat" there are groups of people with interests contradicting to each other. That it's not because of capitalism, contrary to what you've said. That these conflicting interests will still exist in socialist country.

>>79056
> Yes. Whether you sell your labor for a living, or own property and profit off others' labor.
That's a very arbitrary definition if you think of it. Igor Sechin belongs to working class. He's just an employed worker in state-owned company "Rosneft". Sure, he's filthy rich, but money, yachts and mansions are not "means of productions". Same's with Patrushev, FSB director. Meanwhile owner of a corner shop who'd employed helper is a horrible capitalist exploiting working masses. Engineer who bought 500$ worth stonks owns means of production so he's somewhat bourgeoisie. Fired worker becomes lumpen until he founds a new job.

So this "working class" is a nonsense like, let's say, "left-handed class". A random subset of people. While Germany is a state with its borders, army, other government agencies, language and so on.

> Yes, for overthrowing the bourgeois and eradicating capitalism.
It means that this categorization is not just useless, but also harmful because it makes people try socialist experiment once again.
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No. 79067 Kontra
>>79065
>That within "proletariat" there are groups of people with interests contradicting to each other. That it's not because of capitalism, contrary to what you've said. That these conflicting interests will still exist in socialist country.

I never denied that. In capitalism they have a common interest though regardless of Prole X wanting nuclear energy while Prole Y says it can be done with other non-fossils. Nobody will believe that there are no conflicts or arguments after capitalism has vanished. + you started listing non-market interests which is a completely different field then and just hurr durr there are differences in a class so they are not class anymore and can never be solidarity ;))))
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No. 79071
249 kB, 627 × 999
I went on a date with an Indian woman today. She was sweet and at the end of the night I yawned and put my arm around her which, given her conservative small town background, had her giggling and blushing.

Today I introduced her to sweet cider and dating in the park, soon it will be motorcycles, square roti and English curries.
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No. 79072
>>79071
>A bad girl has breasts
So, a good girl is a boy?
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No. 79073 Kontra
16 kB, 482 × 533
>>79071
Sounds nice. Best of luck going forward!
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No. 79075
>>79072
Woman without dick is like beer without vodka -- wasted money.
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No. 79080
575 kB, 850 × 1195
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508 kB, 850 × 1087
>>79072
It's a parody of old Indian morality posters that would inform people of how to behave like pic 1. They criticise Hindu nationalist attitudes.

>>79073
Thank you.

Now I just need to worry that I'm accidentally dating two women at once where one may not understand western dating culture because another woman has just agreed to a Friday I messaged her about it yesterday.
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No. 79081
>>79080
>It's a parody
Surprised Pikachu face (not really)
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No. 79083
901 kB, 2000 × 1452
You guys know where I could find Gondola comics? I've been looking for a certain Gondola comic in German...
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No. 79090
Today's grievance:
My workplace has to use skype group chats for whatever reason.

My job sometimes involves copy pasting monospaced code block text.
Skype has a code block tag.
It also has old style, non-unicode smiles.
Those get evoked with various combinations of symbols, like ':*'
The smiley parsers does not ignore code blocks.
So you will have smileys inside of your code snippet or raw data that you can't get rid of without changing the text itself.
There is no off switch for this behavior.

Thank you for listening to my grievance. I will now go punch something.
>>
No. 79091
>>79090
Your own fault for working in a place that uses Skype.
We use Teams, which gets slower and buggier with each update and I hate it.
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No. 79093
133 kB, 937 × 1171
Had a dream about a girl I met again recently. We were watching a movie at a family gathering, then we snuck off and made out, hiding behind a church bench, nothing too exciting but I had this very vivid sensation of french kissing.
It depressed me quite a bit upon waking up since she had shown some interest in me some time ago but I let it slide and now she's an artist but also a rather clean, hard-working & nice girl - as for me, yesterday night I masturbated to some disgusting porn and slept terribly because I start another shitty part-time job today. (Slightly exaggerating here for dramatic purposes, but the point stands)
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No. 79094 Kontra
>>79090
>Skype
lol.
lmao.
I’m surprised Microsoft hasn’t melted skype down yet to funnel everything into MS Teams.
I guess they are slightly different enough to not be a concern.

Not that teams is any better. The performance is “servicable” (When the video player or the downloader isn’t crashing) but the UI designers were all chocking on a colossal bag of dicks and made the most nonsensical interface ever with that double-ribbon, dual-pages shit where you never know what exactly the back arrow is referring to.
(Or if the file you started downloading is actually dowloading or not or how much of is it left to download.)

Looking at the shit MS makes I’m surprised the windows meme took off at all, but I’m not surprised that once they made a bank with Windows they made sure to metastase the cancer everywhere with office just to make sure that they can never be ripped out from the world of tech without causing this duct-taped house of cards to collapse.

Sent from my iPad
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No. 79096
852 kB, 1284 × 1481
Hermes has renamed itself Evri and decided to deliver all my packages on Friday. It did this as soon as I'd agreed to be in the office on Friday to meet the CEO. This will be the one time in history that they deliver a package when they should.

How did we survive in the time when people would be in the office on weekdays?

>>79091
>>79094
I'm just glad Teams has finally given the function to remove mirroring the video for you only. And the smooth and lighting function is also nice for reasons.

t.vain tart
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No. 79097 Kontra
81 kB, 720 × 937
>>79096
I was wondering why on earth would Hermes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herm%C3%A8s) change their name to something so mundane. But it turns out of course there are multiple businesses using the word in some capacity. And that Evri logo is horrendous compared to their previous one. What a tragedy.

For my purposes Hermes == Hermès. I don't bother with letters that do not have a dedicated key on my keyboard.
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No. 79100 Kontra
>>79097
So Evri is a German company headquartered in the UK and owned by an American private equity firm. I don't know who owns what any more.

In any case Evri, formerly Hermes formerly Chuck's are the worst delivery company I've ever encountered, I refuse to believe that a German company could be so inefficient. In the past I've actually cancelled orders because they were the only available delivery company.
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No. 79101
>>79100
In Germany it's still called Hermes.
>>
No. 79102
>>79101
But it's shit anyway.
Hermes, GLS and DPD can suck my peepee
>>
No. 79103
>>79102
Never claimed the opposite, friend.
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No. 79104
Dang. Two of the things I specifically didn't want to happen, happened.
  1. I learned Regexp. Not just learned, I'm now basically fluent in it, thanks to a part time job I had. Fucking data entry.
  2. I learned SQL. Because I needed it for my current job.
I suspect that if I keep this up, in time I will become a either a php developer (because the product our company sells is written in php), or a front end flutter developer (same reason).
OR, as I've said before, I'll become a professional bullshitter in the form of a Business Analyst.
This is why capitalism is evil, guys. It is exploiting my material conditions + my lack of drive and willpower, and turning me into a web design soyboy.

Anyway, I'm loaded up on 3 liters of beer, time to go to the gym. It's leg day today so I have squats + deadlifts on the same day. What could possibly go wrong.
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No. 79105
>>79103
I know, buddy
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No. 79106
67 kB, 682 × 519
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No. 79107 Kontra
>>79102
Amen, God bless the person that came up with midway pick-up automats.
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No. 79111 Kontra
I wrote a (semi) funny comment on a tiktok that had little views back then, it totally blew up and more than 10k people think it was a funny comment. Despite the luck of early comment that is crucial, at least people think I have humor :^)
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No. 79114 Kontra
>>79111
I have once uploaded a video to youtube that, to this date, has over 35000 views.
>>
No. 79115
Non-verifiable bragging on an anonymous imageboard is a great idea.
>>
No. 79119
>>79115
Why should we lie? I was just surprised opening the app and seeing that so many people gave me a like, as many human beans I appreciate the dopamine hit that thousands of people liking my comment/produce gave me and shared this surprise with Ernst.

>>79114
What kind of video is it?
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No. 79120
>>79111
On two occassions I received reddit gold for shitposting in crypto subs. I don't even remember what the particular posts were and have since nuked the account, deleting all history.

>>79115
Not sure if this one counts as bragging, or self-flagellation.
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No. 79122
Read somewhere that slot machine addiction isn't driven by an expectation of winning, but a kind of hypnotic escapism where you can be in this contextless liminal space with your brain turned off while your limbic system is busy pressing buttons and watching flashing lights.
So badically, being dead for a while.

Explains why I spend so much time on the internet I guess.
Or why I miss my previous job where I was constantly busy and didn't have a minute of spare time.
>>
No. 79135
>>79115
Mad you don't have anything to brag about?

>>79119
>What kind of video is it?
It's a short clip from a rather famous humoristic product of its time. I actually found out I uploaded another video at that time, completely OC, which has accumulated, in the same time span, just a bit over 1500 views.
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No. 79139
>>79115
Lying makes no practical sense in this context. People will admire you but it will bring no joy because you know that this admiration is fake.
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No. 79143 Kontra
76 kB, 534 × 800
>>79122
Reminds of this talk about visual system of the human brain and subconscious structures where the human brain can do some eggcelent stuff. That is why screens and the movements it displays attract our attention because they speak to us on a special level. So yeah, a slot machine is a great visual stimulus that keeps you attentive and keeps the rationale out.

t. randomly pulled together stuff from surface level reading

>>79135
>It's a short clip from a rather famous humoristic product of its time.

Alright, thought it was OC. I did upload some music that also got around 35k and I did manage an account for a historic institution for a while and did feed a special audience I know existed (because I was part of it) historic content that was digitalized by me. Some of these were great hits with more than 50k views. Felt really great to contribute to this niche always looking for that kind of old footage.
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No. 79149 Kontra
>>79122
>Read somewhere that slot machine addiction isn't driven by an expectation of winning, but a kind of hypnotic escapism where you can be in this contextless liminal space with your brain turned off while your limbic system is busy pressing buttons and watching flashing lights.
>So badically, being dead for a while.
Pretty much. Interesting video related to the topic:

Addiction by Design: From Slot Machines to Candy Crush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TazssD6L7wc
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No. 79160
I’m not doing much.
Had some nice tea, laid on the bed and listened to some music.
Days just kinda go by.

I’m almost done with the penultimate paragraph of the HFZ’s first chapter.
The thing is, near the end I can actually copy over sentences because they repeate structures as an aesthetic support of the argument.
Gonna do before going to bed today.
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No. 79169 Kontra
I went to a discounter this morning grabbing a sandwich before going to the library. There was this song from my childhood playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lBJjCtoPQ and it gave me a nostalgia feel, making me happy as I was supposed to meet up with a woman that gets quite close for having a bf. But she did not come as she felt still ill. Now with the day over it makes me just sad for all the time passing. It's not her in the end but another person that didn't get back to me after meeting up a couple of times that makes me feel unwanted. Well, it wasn't crazy energy but I thought maybe that is ok and perhaps that way this time. Probably not. So just again the familiar feeling of loneliness because I rarely find the courage to talk to female people I don't know yet and when I do my depression usually gets in my way. Maybe I should use this dating app for people with psychological problems where I can be upfront about it.

There must be at least a number of people being depressed yet not totally miserable but hopeful in the end and that shows often enough, fuck.
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No. 79170 Kontra
>>79169
I think this is especially funny with the content of the song but it's really the nostalgia or better melancholia of passing time realized through this song in the status of a childhood memory.
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No. 79172
>>79169
Putting links in spoilers is a crime against mobile users. Prepare to die.

Sent from my iPad.
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No. 79176
>>79172
Lurking on mobile is the bigger crime
>>
No. 79177
>>79174
Made me think. How would you change your DNA if it was possible? Become furry? Or some fantasy race? Or grow a third arm for convenient scratch of your back?
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No. 79183 Kontra
>>79169
I am more depressed by the way you're writing.
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No. 79198 Kontra
>>79183
I don't have the energy.
Yet enough though to try the dating platforms I mentioned ... not many people and nothing I'm interested in, as suspected many old people. Guess the usual suspects for younger people are the only way to go.
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No. 79199 Kontra
>>79176
>whataboutism
Does not justify your crimes.
>>
No. 79201
Ich bin Scooter und du bist auf der Deutschen Autobahn! - UTZ UTZ UTZ UTZ UTZ UTZ UTZ UTZ
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No. 79202
Today I found out that I'm a moron.

I recently bought some swivel bar chairs for the kitchen that use gas lifts like an office chair. I wasn't paying attention when I was putting them together but noted at the end that one of them didn't sit together and didn't lift. On disassembly I remembered that I never took the cap off the gas lift and contacted the seller as clearly the cap hadn't been included and it probably broke in transit if it even worked on being packed. They sent a replacement that arrived today and after much WD40 and Mr.Hammer got the old lift out and put the new one in.

"...Oh that's odd, the lift still doesn't work and it still sits odd. I wonder if it's actually something in the mechanism that's broke?" I then proceed to lift the chair into the light and don't see any shine through the hole. I soon found I must've jammed the cap in at some point putting the chair together and it just stayed lodged, get the WD40 out again and some scissors to get it out and now the chair works. So I guess I have a spare gas lift now. I'll have to buy something off the seller again to absolve my shame.

Also I bought the wrong enclosure for my old SSD because I didn't even bother to look.
>>
No. 79203
>>79169
You need to have many women on the go as 3/4 will flake on you. It's the rules of the game.

>this dating app for people with psychological problems

That's all dating apps.
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No. 79205 Kontra
>>79203
Would you advise it can be ok to say something like I have depression problems but we will go on museum dates? I cringe when I read texts like looking for adventures or I love to travel. A friend of mine just writes nothing and it works quite well (on Tinder), would be my favorite option as well but I would also like to know them upfront I have depressions instead of hiding the shit, I just a hassle, I want somebody matching my energy tbh. In the end I'm really not interested in dating apps. I think dates can be quite exhausting.
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No. 79206
I've never been a victim of racism until I got to Poland. Apparently Erasmus students left a mark.
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No. 79207
4,3 MB, 4160 × 3120
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I visited Fort Niagara, built by the French in 1726 to control access to the Niagara River and, by extension, trade in America. The British captured it a couple of times but gave it back. It's ours now.

My experience in one word: Canons. Canons were everywhere. There was also a musket firing demonstration- without a live round ofc. Not as loud as I expected, but a lot of smoke.
>>
No. 79209
>>79207
>Not as loud as I expected
Couple of reasons. Most modern cartridges have an extra crack from the supersonic chunk of metal flying out the far side while older black powder weapons usually fell just shy of that, and sometimes well below depending on how well the ball was patched and the powder load itself.

Second, the actual energy output of burning black powder is much lower than smokeless and burns for longer so there is less of a pressure wave created by ignition than a similarly sized charge of smokeless.

t. knower
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No. 79214
>>79206
Where are you from?
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No. 79220
5,5 MB, 720 × 480, 0:16
>>79206
Describe the racism you encountered in more detail.

>>79214
I'd guess it's our rapaz do sul from Portugal.
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No. 79226
31 kB, 400 × 300
10 kB, 320 × 236
My edgiest opinion yet:
People who say "oh, you're a leftist? Then why do you have an iPhone/iMac" have a point.

The usual rebuttal to this is that this is not a valid criticism of leftist philosophy, but it's not leftist philosophy that's being criticized here, it's the character of the person.
And I agree with that criticism.

The rebuttal to the character criticism is that you can't blame a feudal peasant for owning a hoe produced under feudalism or whatever.
See, they like to equate iPhones to tools of labor and such. But an iPhone is not a tool. It's the furthest thing from a tool next to executive desk toys.
Apple products are luxury goods. They're less functional and more expensive versions of actual necessary technological goods.
So you can't trust someone who claims to be a leftie but owns Applie products.
Just like you can't trust someone who claims to be a leftie but watches anime (a totally reactionary genre of entertainment). But that's another discussion.

To extend the feudal analogy, it would be like an aristocrat who owns land telling the peasants how the monarchy must be overthrown in favor of a new syst-
Wait a minute!
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No. 79227
2,8 MB, 4160 × 3120
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>>79209
Appreciate the explanation- I had forgotten firearm development was in your wheelhouse. It was a cool demonstration, performed in full period clothing and containing many fun facts. As the presenter had to load his flint-lock musket by tearing a paper cartridge with his teeth, the ground was littered with evidence of earlier shots :D

A few more pics:
I was surprised to find an Ernst at Fort Niagara. During WW2 the fort was used to inter POWs, and among them was the young artist Ernst Wille. He painted portraits of officers and such, as well as a mural in the Officers Club. I didn't see that building.

Castle interior room and more cannons- properly spelled this time. Double consonants are my kryptonite.
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No. 79229
218 kB, 500 × 426
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No. 79230
95 kB, 936 × 792
>>79227
>Double consonants are my kryptonite.
You managed just fine with Ernst Wille. Otherwise you'd have posted about picrel.
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No. 79231
52 kB, 1600 × 738
>>79229
Why are you replying to me with a comic the premise of which I disproved in the very post you're replying to?

t. posted from my second hand android that looks like pic related
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No. 79232
1,3 MB, 264 × 200, 0:02
>>79231
Because I suspect you to not be entirely serious in your deliberations, which in turns means you agree with that comic.
Gotcha!
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No. 79233
>>79232
I didn't even open the comic because the 218 Kb it would have taken me is proportionally more expensive to me than it is to your first world self.
Check your privelege.

Gotcha!

I do hate anime tho
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No. 79235 Kontra
513 kB, 608 × 1080, 0:04
>>79231
The Germans of EC have been eliminated/jailed/whatever and replaced with some rudimentary AI.

But you are wrong regarding your Apple critique on being less functional and more expensive. It's a bit like saying that you don't need any tools or utensils if you have a Swiss pocket knife or a Leatherman tool. Having an iDeviceⒸ actually frees up the proletariat's precious time by the fact that it 'Just Works'™ and does the narrow band of use cases well, is supported by the manufacturer much longer and has a longer life span in total as well. It's funny how you boast about using a second hand android device when Apple devices do incredibly well on the second hand market and are practically worn out before thrown away. Very much unlike consumable android devices.
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No. 79236
15 kB, 480 × 360
>>79226
>retreating to moral arguments instead of rational ones

A guates Bier kennt kei kridik. a good beer doesn't know critique

https://en.gegenstandpunkt.com/article/ideologies-about-consumption-and-consumer-market-economy
https://en.gegenstandpunkt.com/books/victory-morality-over-socialism

t. semi fun post (it contains serious links), I'm not open for long debates one thing that comes to my mind is that used Iphones are quite cheap. I own an Android btw. but I think wether Android or Iphone, it won't change much for the people producing these goods or suffer from production in other ways. Morality (of this kind) is shadow boxing to stroke your own ego, basically gaining moral purity/high ground over those Iphone owning leftists, kek, perhaps even virtue signaling, showing everybody what a good person you are for not owning a consumer product, what in the green professional class are you doing?
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No. 79237
>>79233
But if you didn't open the comic, how would you know about its premise?

ERTAPPT!
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No. 79239
>>79235
This.
Praise be to Jobs (pbuh)!

Sent from my iPad
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No. 79241
929 kB, 3024 × 4032
>>79235
> like saying that you don't need any tools or utensils if you have a Swiss pocket knife or a Leatherman tool
I completely agree with this reasoning.
What's wrong with that? Explain your argument in a 100% rational way or else be proven a sophist.

Pic related, I cut my food with a boxcutter. You don't? Fucking bourgie.

>is supported by the manufacturer much longer and has a longer life span in total as well
You mean it installs software updates that the hardware can't handle, making the device slower, and forcing the user to buy a new one?
Meanwhile, I just got a new kernel update on my 5 year old phone, and it didn't affect performance one bit.
Because it probably didn't do anything.

>>79237
I had to squint to read the text from the tumbnail.
This is what the third world oppressed peoples'es' have to go through every day, while you privileged first world oppressors can download comics with impunity. Shame on you.

>>79236
>>79235
Socialism is ultimately about Morality, so I see nothing bad with moral purity spirals.
If socialism wasn't about morality, nothing would stop someone from analyzing all of the leftist arguments for how capitalism exploits people, and going "And That's a Good Thing!".
We should shame each other more, it would make a more of an impact than internet discussions and white papers in political journals that nobody reads.

Also, here's the ultimate rebuttal: someone who buys a second hand diamond, even if it's cheaper, is still consuming luxury goods, and it doesn't really make it better than buying a "brand new" diamond. And Apple products objectively have less functionality than their counterparts because it is the business strategy of Apple to limit functionality, and demand a higher price for the same hardware. So even a second hand apple product has less functionality, and it will still cost more than a second hand Android phone that can has the same functionality, so I don't know what the FUCK your argument is.

Again, this is not a philosophical criticism of leftism or whatever, but of the people who engage in conspicuous consumption despite knowing better.
The problem is not that you're no longer a leftist after buying an iphone.
My problem is with the reverse causality: buying an iphone tells me something about your character that makes me believe you're not a real leftist.
The rules of prose would have me say that "it's a subtle difference", but it really isn't.
If you've really internalized leftist philosophy, you wouldn't buy an iphone, you wouldn't watch a Marvel movie, you wouldn't buy a Lamborgini.
Therefore, you're not a real leftist.
Simple as.

You must learn to recognize the criticism of the left through a rightist perspective, and the criticism of the left by a leftist perspective. To me, this distinction matters. I reject universality. Plato was gay. Literally

>https://en.gegenstandpunkt.com/article/ideologies-about-consumption-and-consumer-market-economy
>https://en.gegenstandpunkt.com/books/victory-morality-over-socialism
Didn't read.
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No. 79244
3,3 MB, 496 × 658, 0:01
>>79241
>I completely agree with this reasoning.
Yet I see that you have a keyboard and a mouse attached to your computer. How curious! You could just use an on-screen keyboard or operate the system by keyboard alone.

>Pic related, I cut my food with a boxcutter. You don't? Fucking bourgie.
Who are you calling a bourgie eating a feast like that from a bowl, using spoon AND an boxcutter. The audacity. I don't need to explain the argument any further to a hypocrite like you.

>You mean it installs software updates that the hardware can't handle, making the device slower, and forcing the user to buy a new one?
You mean the hardware life extending software update which increased battery life and improved the system stability of a device with a worn-out battery hardware? How does this force anyone to buy a new device? Quite the opposite!

>Meanwhile, I just got a new kernel update on my 5 year old phone, and it didn't affect performance one bit.
>Because it probably didn't do anything.
Are you saying proletariat should waste their precious time for actions that you perform for no gain whatsoever? If you had bought Apple, you would receive updates that do not waste your time and bring more features, stability and increase the lifespan of your device. Free of charge.
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No. 79246
>>79244
You don't get it.

This is not a discussion.
This is a friendly warning.

When I work my way up to the level of a Commissar during the International Revolution, I will personally make sure than anyone who owns an Apple product is labeled as a bourgeois, and therefore ordered for a summary execution.

My reasoning is iron solid proof:
The moral threshold of consumerism should be reasonable. Putting it at 1st world level would make even the first world upper middle class millionaires "comrades", which doesn't feel right. Limiting it to only 3rd world consumption habits would exclude too many "allies" (useful idiots).
Therefore, second worlders such as myself (in particular) should be used as the moral threshold.
Therefore, anyone who consumes more than me is a bourgie.
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No. 79247
>>79246
What is the proper leftist response to finding an iPhone by the side of the road? Hypothetically, this article of conspicuous consumption has been remotely wiped, and activation lock is enabled making it impossible burdensome to locate the legal owner and investigate his political leanings.

Asking for a friend.
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No. 79248 Kontra
>>79241
>Didn't read.

Then you should be careful what you say, no way you become a commissar without doing the reading.

>Socialism is ultimately about Morality

And that is why you should read. Because morality is a bad guidance, real communist are driven by rationality and the fight against irrational capital.

The serious problem would be that you make it about consumption not production. Du Narr, siehst du es denn nicht? You will face the same disappointment as the GDR people back in the 1990s once you get an actual western dining knife instead of that boxcutter bricolage! Your life will stay shitty as always but you have the knife, is it that what you really want? You want the knife, not the life? My friend. Oh what woeful confusion.
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No. 79249
723 kB, 1838 × 2776
>>79248
> You will face the same disappointment as the GDR people back in the 1990s once you get an actual western dining knife instead of that boxcutter bricolage! Your life will stay shitty as always but you have the knife, is it that what you really want? You want the knife, not the life? My friend. Oh what woeful confusion.
No.
I want everyone else to also have the shitty box cutter. Duh.
Stupid.

>Because morality is a bad guidance, real communist are driven by rationality and the fight against irrational capital.
Rationality is ultimately Empty. All rational arguments must first define a set of irrational axioms.
But the set of assumptions people hold are defined by the ideological hegemon, therefore, attempting to be rational will get you nowhere since you're arguing from a different set of axioms than the adversary.

I argue that although leftism must be constructed rationally, it must be argued for on irrational, moralistic grounds, since that is the only common ground.
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No. 79250 Kontra
>>79247
If you'd stolen the iphone from a bourgie, I'd approve.

But finding it on the side of the road is a grey zone. You will be investigated. Do not change your location.
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No. 79252
>>79249
morality is postmodern relativism, you spit in the face of science!
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No. 79254
>>79229
If you're such a weakling that even restraining from using Apple's shit is a too big effort for you, how are you going to commit proletarian revolution?

And do you really need proletarian revolution then? For me choosing companies with a bit more ethical busyness practices requires no effort, quite the opposite. But you seem to like being fucked in ass by corporations.
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No. 79255
I think the "iphone question" is interesting because it's an point of discomfort for western lefties.
There's no fire without smoke.

Basically, it raises the question of whether western lefties would REALLY be willing to give up their comfort for global emancipation.
It seems to me that western lefties operate under the assumption that a global redistribution of wealth would uplift the third worlders, but only that.
Or maybe they even think that the billionaires are SO rich, that a redistribution would uplift THEM along with everyone else.

But the possibility that they would have to give up their comfort, and end up in some place between themselves and third worlders, scares them. So they don't like to think about it.
I think such "pain points" are indicative of some unresolved narrative or ideological tension, and therefore, must be poked at until some kind of climax or resolution is met.
Namely: are 1st world lefties really honest about their convictions, or is their rhetoric simply a means of climbing the socio-economic ladder, but by an alternate, non-market means?

Or worst of all, maybe they're just a bunch of ideologues who don an aesthetic of wanting change, but find comfort in secretly believing (and hoping) that no change will actually happen, because they're comfortable, just the way they are?
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No. 79256
>>79214
>>79220
I forgot I made that post. Apparently my natural reflex while drunk at 4am was to tell Ernst about my troubles.

A Polish lady said that all Portuguese men are bald and have big benises. Later on, she whispered to my ear that she had "slept with 3 Africans", the implication being I wouldn't need to be careful with her. I finished the drink she paid for me and promptly left, I feel uncomfortable when a woman is that explicitly sexually forward.
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No. 79257
>>79256
She wanted the rooster.
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No. 79258 Kontra
>>79257
I'm not that kinda girl man!
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No. 79259 Kontra
361 kB, 1244 × 862
>>79254
Apple's market share in the US is more than 50%, it's everybody's phone that only has the allure of exclusivity, it's a branding strategy that people like you and brick (I know he is trolling) fall for just like people who actually buy Apple.
But that is consequence of book shy people, they will talk their mouth dry over a branding strategy instead of seeing the difference of models between all phones. In China the peasant and the fuerdai are differentiated via their Xiaomi model (probably wrong but I know there is a truth to if, it's my lefty sense)
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No. 79260
1,3 MB, 640 × 360, 0:19
>>79259
How is this any relevant? If 51% of Americans jump from a roof, would you do it too?
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No. 79263 Kontra
Does anybody here actually have an iPhone?
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No. 79264
>>79263
I don't have ANY cellphone. What do I win?
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No. 79265
>>79264
Are you an amish?
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No. 79266
>>79265
Yes, absolutely. I'm an Amish on vacation in Germany who has nothing better to do than lurking on an obscure imageboard. Had to get away from the farming and the horses and all the witnesses the police hides in our communes.
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No. 79267
>>79266
Hey man don't worry, you can even use a cellphone if you don't have a sense of humor.
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No. 79268
433 kB, 1280 × 800
>>79263
If there are such people here, they probably won't admit it. But the German is SUS, why would he defend applefags?
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No. 79269 Kontra
60 kB, 634 × 353
>>79260
You didn't get it, apparently. It's not unusual to own an Iphone in the US, it is nothing exclusive, even poor/er people use them (in the West).

>>79268
If you talk about me, I don't defend Apple, the argument is simply not thought through and that is my concern. Also a bit of fun posting. And I already said own a cheap Android phone that was around 150€ back then when I bought it new. I will buy second hand in the future, phone is not so important as long as the photo quality is ok and apps run that I need.
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No. 79270 Kontra
>>79269
>You didn't get it, apparently. It's not unusual to own an Iphone in the US, it is nothing exclusive, even poor/er people use them (in the West).
What you should never do is using the US as a reference for what people in "the West" are doing. Americans are still so vastly different from anyone else that no comparisons you can make here are of value.
>In the broader society, the opposite is true, for here, more than any other place on earth, wealth is so widespread and so bountiful that what passes for the middle class in America could pass for the upper class in most of the rest of the world.
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No. 79271 Kontra
>>79268
Well, I have one.
I was just asking because you guys were having such a passionate debate about it. (Even though Kazakh’s point could have been illustrated by any other high-end product.)
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No. 79272
>>79271
High-End or High-Tech?
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No. 79273
147 kB, 660 × 660
>>79256
That sounds more like affirmative action than racism.

>>79263
Of course I have iPhones and other Apple products, but that's only because I'm an anti-communist trying to cause maximum reputation damage and undermine communists who are a bit brighter than our brick here and who understand that Apple is their best ally.

:D
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No. 79274
>>79273
>That sounds more like affirmative action than racism.
But affirmative action IS racism, comrade.
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No. 79276 Kontra
27 kB, 412 × 360, 0:01
>>79274
Whatever you say, fascist.
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No. 79277
>>79276
Don't call me a fascist you bundist kikeschnabel bolshevik!
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No. 79278 Kontra
>>79270
The US has it's lower class as well and even there you will find iPhones in use just like in Germany. I once delivered a small package to the outskirts of the city to people in this 1970s commie block style housing project, the package needed ID, his mum told me he is not here, phoned him, apparently its a new expensive phone, I think she even said something like 800€ or so. Even with a low income, you can get this phone. If you buy an Apple product or a Samsung or Xiaomi, they are all made from elements that are probably gotten hands on dirty, manufactured under shitty conditions and so on. The production conditions won't change if you buy Apple or Android, it is pretty much useless for leftism to talk about this in depth. Consumer excess and pointing with a moral finger on it doesn't do shit basically, it is about moral high ground, not about political change then, who needs that?
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No. 79279
Gays are only gays because of material conditions of capitalism. After the revolution they will be back to normal and Apple's fanbase will vanish.
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No. 79280 Kontra
>>79278
> Even with a low income, you can get this phone
Yeah, in installments. But then again, with installments you can get everything.
Don't wait, fulfill your desires NOW!
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No. 79284
>>79278
I bet if this were the 19th century, you'd be saying the same thing about owning slaves.
>You know, slaves are a widespread commodity with an air of exclusivity around it
>Basically anyone can afford one in America
>Besides, moral arguments won't get us anywhere, it's the System that has to be changed, mayne
>Typed by my slave scribe
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No. 79286 Kontra
86 kB, 1024 × 576
>>79284
>Typed by my slave scribe
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No. 79290 Kontra
63 kB, 866 × 1300
>>79284
U are just mad because u can’t afford one
>Typed by my slave scribe
Bullshit, everyone knows slaves are illiterate
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No. 79292
>>79284
>I bet if this were the 19th century, you'd be saying the same thing about owning slaves.

Ok, this analogy doesn't work straight, let me rephrase it so that it fits what I said:

> You know, slaves are a widespread commodity with the ones caught and bought on the Ivory Coast having an air of exclusivity around it.
>Basically anyone can afford one of these Ivory Coast slaves in America
>Besides, moral arguments won't get us anywhere, it's the System that has to be changed, mayne
>Typed by my slave scribe

The problem with your argument is that you want to blame people for buying Ivory Coast slaves while owning a Central African slave yourself you even have two of them, one with a broken display, did you beat it while drunk? And iPhone or Samsung, they are functionally similar, just like a slave either from the Ivory Coast or Central Africa have the same function in the end. In that sense you have double standards or seek moral high ground where it's dumb to do so.

So instead of blaming the ones buying slaves, you should stop the people that make this slave system work. But here is why this analogy is also problematic from your side: phones are produced by people owning capital slaves are not produced, they are treated as more or less free nature, which at most has the price of "harvesting". They are the ones that are responsible for the production and should be blamed, they have the most power to change that. The thing is you don't care about the production of phones, you just have a problem with Applefags and that people who call themselves left own a supposed status symbol/item. Would they own a super expensive Samsung or Xiaomi, similarly priced to an apple one it wouldn't be a problem for you it seems, the production of both phones is probably shitty in the same way. And that should be pointed out. I don't claim moral superiorty with my organic banana and tomatoes do people producing/harvesting organic food have good working conditions? organic claims good food not good working conditions in hand over people calling themselves left (middle or lower class) that buy cheap vegetables that have probably been harvested by migrants in southern Europe under shit conditions, or fruit that has been treated with pesticides making the workers ill.

>The performance record of consumer power is modest. On the credit side, there is one thing above all: the effect that this idea has on the self-esteem of its supporters. They have shown responsibility and have nothing to blame themselves for. That the intended objective effects on the market fail to appear is guaranteed by the principle of production, which remains untouched. The mode of calculation that counts every expenditure as a cost that needs to be justified by profit remains in force in the organic sector and in other ethically guided enterprises. The poor treatment of people and nature therefore does not die out even in the sectors that sophisticated consumers consider to be the premium-segments of morally inspired production. People have become accustomed to the fact that the ones from whom they “never would have expected such a thing” are also — and especially — responsible for the big scandals of our times.
>Hardly anybody learns from this experience, however. For that, a revision of the fictitious notion of the market-economy world of consumption would be necessary. The customer is not only well-served in principle, he is even the authority who — because of his shopping behavior and purse — functions as ideal client. Every excess or misdemeanor discovered from this false, but well-meaning theoretical basis could — according to this philosophy — be put right again by the power of responsible consumers. When this effect fails to appear in the face of daily horror scenarios, it must undoubtedly be the customer who is to blame, as his permanent bad shopping behavior and his stinginess creates a business opportunity for the “black sheep” amongst the many good suppliers in the first place.
>Every newspaper proves this to be true. Why does the climate go down the drain? Because the consumer is too idle, doesn’t leave his car in the garage and won’t turn down the heat. Why do people suffer hunger in the Third World? Because the inhabitants of the northern hemisphere just can't get enough and are rolling in prosperity, even if the salesperson at Walmart does not notice it. Why don’t food scandals die out? Because the consumer is stingy and prefers to spend his money on an expensive car instead of investing in healthy organic food. Anyone who expects a pound of meat for two dollars has virtually ordered rotten meat.
>So much for the bad opinion of the consumer, which is where the good opinion of capitalism as a service to customers inevitably lands. So the “customer king” in the end enjoys a double role. As a consumer, he may thank capitalism for an achievement that is not in its program: supply. And it is his excessive demands and lack of responsibility that can be blamed for the harmful effects that capitalist growth does have on nature and health, because profit is its goal and not supply.

>>79280
Yes, but that is how it works. That is one "trick" of a capitalist economy to keep "demand"/consumption at higher levels.
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No. 79293 Kontra
587 kB, 3464 × 3464
>>79292
>writing a 50 line serious reply to a late-night shitpost
Oh Ernst, you are killing me :3

That said, nobody is forced to use installments or to buy these things. Abolishing capitalist economy will not suddenly increase everyone's IQ by 30 points.
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No. 79295
6,1 MB, 4000 × 3000
Now I am on a train with malfunctioning WiFi, trying my hardest to deliver this shitpost. I'm on my way to the mountains now, fleeing this Gomorrah of the East. It is a nice city, though!
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No. 79296
>>79295
Why am I Portuguese, is Ernst tracking me?
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No. 79302 Kontra
>>79293
>That said, nobody is forced to use installments or to buy these things

They have not been developed to make people smart but to expand consumption by making use of virtuality (dimension of "not yet", simply said). Nobody is forced to make use of them yet it is crucial for the economy that is why it has been developed and is in use and available to the people.
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No. 79307
>>79293
>writing a 50 line serious reply to a late-night shitpost
It's because he DOES own Appleshit contrary to what he says. And because deep inside he knows that he was wrong to buy it and feels uncomfortable about it. We'll call him "ICommie" from this moment.

>>79302
> it is crucial for the economy
It is not. If average IQ was 30 points higher, Apple would have to produce quite different products. Capitalism is too democratic. Corporations have to make dumb stuff to make profits on dumb people.
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No. 79308 Kontra
359 kB, 731 × 480
>It is not

Your reading comprehension is not the best I see. We were talking about the principle of installments, these are crucial for the economy to drive consumption. This is not apple specific.

>It's because he DOES own Appleshit contrary to what he says.

Or I just think the argument is dumb and I have to explain to people like you who miss a crucial amount of IQ points what's dumb about it and why it goes nowhere useful or is particularly insightful.
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No. 79309 Kontra
233 kB, 1280 × 1800
I mean something about this argument must certainly have struck a nerve with you, because else you would have just let it be, as would every sensible person.
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No. 79310 Kontra
>>79309
Yeah but the conclusion that I must own apple products to engage in this conversation is not a logical one. I will tell you why that is, even though I said it already: the argument distracts from what is actually important. To find out why I think it distracts, gives no good insights, and just fuels smugness and moral superiority. What other things are more important than proving to have the moral high ground over apple owners (and this moral highground is is more or less unjustified anyway) just read the posts again.
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No. 79311 Kontra
59 kB, 385 × 346
>>79310
Damn so you ARE an Apple using leftist?
Here, let me taunt you a bit more:
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No. 79312
I went drinking with some female work colleagues and got trapped in the corner of a booth so I couldn't leave after a couple drinks. In the end we made the mistake of playing some ice breaker game of things people don't know about you - it started fun, we talked about work crushes and a girl semi-regularly does MDMA and life drawing with her friends. Then it invariably ends up with people bringing up trauma and it stops being so fun. Bloody women, they can't just drink and bitch about work or politics like blokes.

Also my flatmate moved out and he took the fucking bin with him. I didn't realise how expensive these things have gotten - £40 for a bin, it's nuts.

>>79205
No think about it, the little details you give are all people will know so are considerably amplified. I think women have this bit figured out where they disclose it when you have sex because a. you've already gotten to know each other a little and, b. it's not anything until you have sex anyway.
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No. 79313 Kontra
>>79205
>In the end I'm really not interested in dating apps. I think dates can be quite exhausting.

Yeah but you want sex and companionship don't you?
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No. 79314 Kontra
>>79312
>I think women have this bit figured out where they disclose it when you have sex because a. you've already gotten to know each other a little and, b. it's not anything until you have sex anyway.

I don't understand that sentence in the context tbh.

>>79313
Yes, I had this last time in December 2021 and I don't want it to be a longer streak this time. But you know it is still exhausting and keeps me from taking action in the form of dating apps. I would like the "organic" meeting from which something develops but that just happens too rarely.
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No. 79315
>>79314
> I would like the "organic" meeting from which something develops but that just happens too rarely.
Are you in any club or something? You can't "organically" meet women if you don't leave the house. You could also go to dancing classes or something, or to one of those "paint your own plates" shops, those are usually 99% women.
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No. 79317
11 kB, 380 × 214
I figured it out.

The people who are weirdly impressed and obsessed with AI image generators have aphantasia.
Because otherwise I see nothing exciting about being able to describe something, and seeing a visual depiction of it, if you're a normal person (like me), and can just do that by closing your eyes.
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No. 79319
>>79317
>a normal person (like me)
I laff.
>can just do that by closing your eyes
Ok, you are now forbidden from posting images. You have to describe them instead.
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No. 79320
>>79308
Your argument is simple whataboutism: "Yes, I made unethical and irrational choice by buying Iphone. But what about corporations producing it?"

>>79311
I wonder, if he really thinks that there is nothing bad about it then why did he try to hide it?
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No. 79321
>>79319
>Ok, you are now forbidden from posting images. You have to describe them instead.
I said I (and other normal people such as myself) can, I said nothing about you or any other weirdos.

So, logically, you should be the one describing images instead, because I can then just imagine them.

But here's one anyway:
[a cartoon amphibian with a green face and reddish brown lips with a smug expression, with its hand held in front of its chin, index finger curled and touching the thumb, the rest of the fingers closed]
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No. 79322
>>79317
I can imagine things but I can't draw them. And even if I could, AI doing doing usual human things is fascinating unlike human doing human things.
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No. 79323
>>79322
Why would you want them to be drawn anyway?
It's a thankless thing, nobody will want to look at it anyway, half the internet is now flooded with AI generated pics that nobody wants to look at.
They're kind of like babies in that way: only the people who made them think they're interesting.

This is why I quit drawing and went child-free.
I now just imagine paintings for myself, like a little private gallery, enjoy the images, and then forget about it.
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No. 79326
>>79314
As in you're better off holding off on disclosing a mental illness until someone has gotten to know you. From my experience women hold off on revealing their own mental illnesses until they have you in bed and to me it's always seemed a rational point to tell someone as you transition from a few dates fugging.

I think everyone agrees that it's exhausting and time consuming. The dating market is fundamentally broken in different ways for different people and I don't see a solution coming anytime soon.
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No. 79331
>>79320
Corporations do unethical and irrational things, hence they have a responsibility to change that, and they have the power to do so unlike the consumer. And why is an iPhone more unethical than a Samsung or a Xiaomi? They all use metals probably harvested under shit conditions and put together under shit conditions. They are basically the same except design, some technical functionality and the branding strategy. But these are surface-level things to discuss, but talking to you is like talking to a wall at this point, so goodbye.

>>79326
Hmm, I wonder if my ex knew my psychic problems beforehand (she said I had a dark aura around me that was attracting her among other things lol), we had sex the second time we did meet. I think I gave hints, I tend to do this. And I knew by that point that she had some problems as well and this openness before is what makes attracted to a person (or not) tbh.
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No. 79332
I helped with shopping today. I’m truly astonished by how fucked up inflation has gotten.
We paid like 23k in local monopoly money and it wasn’t even enough to fill up half the shopping trolley. I don’t really want to doompost all that much but I’m a bit anxious about winter.
Some uni departments and high schools aready said they will be holding zoom classes.
Not because they give a shit about covid, but to save on utilities during winter.

I just wonder how much worse will things get until then. But hey, expensive food is better than no food.
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No. 79333 Kontra
>>79332
How much did prices for the burger you occasionally eat have risen? Do you eat at McDonalds or some Hungarian place? I need to know what to expect when I go to Hungary, will my Euros be of big or small advantage? The hostel rooms at the moment are about half of what I would pay in Western Europe it seems.
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No. 79362 Kontra
22 kB, 515 × 290
>>79332
>I’m a bit anxious about winter.
Listen up you little shit. Instead of being anxious and doing nothing you can prepare and make sure you and your family are alright for the winter. If you spend something around a hundred euros buying flour, oil, rice, peas and oats you will survive. If you're feeling fancy get some canned meats, multivitamins and an outdoor cooker or candles even. Utilities are still going to work and if not, locate your nearest municipal building or bomb shelter. If you're anxious about something else then fuck you!

It would do wonders for people to camp out in the middle of a forest for couple of weeks during winter.
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No. 79365 Kontra
>>79362
Why are you so rude all of the sudden? That's now your usual style.
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No. 79370
151 kB, 426 × 240, 0:03
>>79365
Well, in my mind I'm using harsh language in jest. But sometimes things just don't come across like you'd expect everyone to interpret them. Especially when you're a bad at written communications.

And also the mental models of EC posters you've(this goes to anyone) constructed probably aren't very close to reality. I don't even know what my usual posting style is, but for some reason you do. Fascinating :D

>>79363
This isn't very accurate. There's nothing wrong using the today threda as a diary. In fact, he is doing it right. What business of mine is it to comment on someone's daily activities anyway. But that's how I mostly interact in these thredas anyways.
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No. 79371 Kontra
>>79363
He usually responds when I ask questions I think.
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No. 79372 Kontra
35 kB, 500 × 447
541 kB, 1856 × 832
>>79363
You have caused me considerable emotional damage with this post. I demand reparations.

>>79333
If I eat out I usually go to McDonald’s. There it’s like up like 50% in most cases.
But I make burgers at home often enough.
The roughly 50% increase goes for most foodstuffs in my experience.
It’s cheeses that are the worst hit imho.

Lots of places take euromonnies here, but the exchane rate they are using is abysmal, so you’re better off exchanging before buying stuff. That way you can gain around 30-40 HUF per Euro, which is a lot.
The only downside of that is that you might get stuck with large banknotes, like a bunch of 20K ones, so you should be careful when you purches stuff and the cashier is breaking them up. (I’ve never been schwindled before, but people’s attitudes to foreigners can vary wildly. Even if you are Hungarian, people hate it if you pay for something small with a 20K banknote.)

If you are using card I don’t know how the conversion works. I don’t think there’s an extraordinary fee for using an euro account here. At least my bank didn’t screw me over when I was sending from my forint account to an euro one for a purchase.
Everyone takes card in my experience.
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No. 79373
36 kB, 730 × 530
I've been using Classic Shell this whole time (replace start menu with one that looks more like xp/7 era).
Today decided to install it for mom's work PC (school year is starting)

And this whole time I never realized that it's not been developed since 2017.
And I never noticed. This is what good software's supposed to look like. IT JUST WERKS.

No Updoots required.
>>
No. 79374
Use OpenShell
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No. 79375
>>79372
>Everyone takes card in my experience.

Are there shops that don't accept card specifically or only allow card when buying a certain limit like 10€ this can be both the case in Germany, though the pandemic changed it with many shops that make enough money like supermarkets and such. But kiosks and small business owner foodshop like kebab don't accept cards afaik
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No. 79376 Kontra
>>79363
>>79357
>>79360
Keked from this sudden aggression all over the board. What happened?
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No. 79377 Kontra
>>79376
Kohlchan keeps losing visitors.
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No. 79378 Kontra
>>79375
No, even kebab/gyros stores take card.
And no matter how pathetic the sum is, you can pay with card.
You can go to a convenience store, grab a small bottle of fizzy drink and then pay for it with card.

Honestly the only places that don’t necessarily take card are kiosk at farmers’ and flea markets and street vendors.
But even there some more established businesses will take it.
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No. 79382
83 kB, 537 × 800
>>79378
Alright, thanks. In Germany, you will only be able to obtain the fizzy drink by card in a grocery store :DDD
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No. 79409
People say salads are healthy but today Mr. Knife decided that what could really go into my lunch wasn't tomato but a piece of my thumb. And as it was an ouchie I shook my hand around as well which then got blood all over the kitchen.

Salads are hard. Even when I'm not adding my own protein into the mix there is a battle to minimise cheese, croutons and dressing/vinaigrette along with anything else that is too nice to be good for you. I think I might go back to eating bloke food.
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No. 79410
31 kB, 600 × 365
>>79409
>cutting your thumb
lmao n00b
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No. 79412
>>79410
I was too lazy to get out the chopping board out for tomatoes so who is the looser now. Me, of course, but I was quite deliberately doing it wrong.
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No. 79413
>>79412
Wait, so how did you cut them? In your hand or what?
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No. 79416
47 kB, 507 × 338
>>79413
>In your hand
This as how all true G's cut tomatoes. Only beef and chicken are worth bending over to get the cutting board.
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No. 79417
>all those imbeciles debil blyads with their dull knives and clumsy elephantiasis fingers
Such a thing doesn't happen with grolious nihon steel, folded 6,022e23 times:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2Ksgwfrc0
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No. 79426
Why is there so little activity here in the morning/afternoon?
Many of you are not working and those who are, are good informaticians working from home (like me).
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No. 79427 Kontra
>>79426
Addendum:
Outlook got an update and now the buttons for mails/calendar/tasks are on the left side instead of the bottom.
I don't like it.
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No. 79432
>>79426
>Many of you are not working and those who are, are good informaticians working from home
[citation needed]
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No. 79433
>>79426
I'm reading a lot in the morning or work on my paper at different times of the day and have not much to say rn. But it's not that empty here. My impression is that this varies quite a bit over the course of a year or even a month.
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No. 79436
>>79426
Today is a bank holiday so I'm procrastinating on other things. I had a weird experience with a woman on a dating app earlier where she immediately talked about her friend's boyfriend and how he 'comes off as an arsehole' but carried her off the pitch when she had a broken ankle. I'm still processing that one, how in a couple of messages I can feel like someone is moving in on my girlfriend.

Anyway, if you want the board to be more active then you need to make more threads with discussion points. The 'dear diary thread' has a vibe of late night posting about experiences with a preference for self-reflection.
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No. 79440
>>79436
Why have you been absent for quite a while btw? Must have been a year or more.
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No. 79441
>>79426
>Why is there so little activity here in the morning/afternoon?
There is at the moment. You just don't see it because it's all spam and gets deleted.

Moral of the story, more is not always better.
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No. 79445
>>79441
I wouldn't really count spam as "activity", that's corporate user stats inflation tier.
Also, I do see them because it's me who reports them.

Anyhow, it's almost 4, I really haven't done any meaningful work today because my brain hurts.
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No. 79447
>>79445
> it's me who reports them
I thought it was me. Uh, multiple personality disorder I don't know about?
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No. 79448
335 kB, 840 × 873
>>79445
>it's almost 4, I really haven't done any meaningful work today because my brain hurts.

Now imagine how hurt your boss would be if he/her found out what you just said. I hope you will double your productivity tomorrow!
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No. 79450
>>79447
Do you not know? There is only one german on the whole EC and it's you(me).
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No. 79453
>>79450
If it's you, who am I?
And if it's me, who are you?
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No. 79456
>>79453
Hello me, meet the real me.
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No. 79458
>>79456
Which one of us is from the evil parallel universe?
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No. 79460
>>79458
What kind of beard are you wearing?
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No. 79465
53 kB, 1000 × 747
>>79460
Not a goatee
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No. 79466
>>79465
Well, that's basically a full beard, so... oh shit
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No. 79467
Took a power nap and immediately went to the gym.
Depressive cycle ended. Gonna be a few days of decent mood.
Feels good man. For now
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No. 79471 Kontra
>>79467
Two or three times a week I will elect to exercise as soon as I wake up and take a cold shower afterwards. Invariably I will feel fantastic afterwards, my mood and productivity heightened for the rest of the day. I don't know why I have to try so hard to force myself into a behaviour that makes my life so much better.
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No. 79472
>>79471
Woke up today and felt like a heavy fog was upon me. I showered cold and did work a few hours for my paper (yesterday I did nothing because tired). I remember showering cold in the summer of 2020 a lot and it did help. So yeah, can recommend it. Take a depth breath and let the water run down on you, breathe deep yet slowly while the cold water runs down. You shower fast since its cold and it really pushes your circuit.
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No. 79473
>>79440
I've mostly just been too busy with work and the whole world catching fire over the past couple years to post here. My internet use had to take a hit because it takes so bloody long to post anything online, easily 1hr+ to make a detailed and quality post on a subject. Try it, time your posts and see the madness.

Summer has been better but I'll probably still be staying up into the early hours tonight because I work with idiots. Many such cases.
This place hasn't changed much but is quieter than I remember
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No. 79475
Back on real food and coffee after a weekend sick in bed. Just in time to go back to work. Such is life.
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No. 79478 Kontra
756 kB, 386 × 480, 0:12
>>79473
>it takes so bloody long to post anything online, easily 1hr+ to make a detailed and quality post on a subject
You really gotta pick your battles when going all-out assburger on something. Even though it consumes so much time, there's still value to it if the subject is something you want to get a better understanding of. Sort of like you really have to understand a subject to be able to teach it(or make a serious post about it).

Something like that anyways.
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No. 79482
Yesterday I stayed up late and completed the first chapter's translation.
Then I edited it a bit, correcting some typos and creating an uninterrupted version which doesn't have the Chinese original above every sentence.
Gonna let it rest for a bit and then re-read it and correct stylistic errors.
No reason to rush.

Today I read from 1984 and took some notes. I got terrorised by mosquitoes outside.
I tried the Pomodoro method. It worked all right I guess.
Gonna test it some more.
Orwell's book is actually really good. It lends itself well to reading.
Honestly, it supplying us with so many idioms, parallels and truisms did it a bit of a disservice, because you can grow tired of it and resent it without even picking it up at all.

Made two chicken sandwiches for dinner. They were fantastic.
Fresh baguettes, paprika-spice fries, and salad with garlic dressing.
Makes me feel truly alive.
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No. 79492
Decided not to use the computer for a couple days and honestly my mood is way better.

Now I need to find a hobby that doesn't involve using a computer.
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No. 79493
>>79492
So you're lifting computers? DB presses with CRTs?
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No. 79494
>>79493
Going to the gym is not any more of a hobby than going to the bathroom or eating food is.

It's a biological necessity in [current society] tbh
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No. 79495
>>79494
You definitely do not need to go to the gym to do physical exercises. Especially since average people don't need much weight lifting.
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No. 79497
>>79495
You do if you're fat like me.
How you gonna do pulling exercises without weights or machines, if you're too fat to do a pullup?
I'd get weights, but they're expensive and my neighbors would object.

Also, gyms should be subsidized by the ministry of health.
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No. 79505
>>79497
>Also, gyms should be subsidized by the ministry of health.
I doubt that would make more people use them, at least in a percentage you can actually see with the naked eye.
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No. 79506
>>79497
>How you gonna do pulling exercises without weights or machines, if you're too fat to do a pullup?
  1. Eat less. Especially less calories. Especially less sugars. And not before sleep. Learn to like the slight feeling of hunger.
  2. Go running and do other aerobic exercises (no gyms required). Preferably not less than for 45 minutes every time. Weight lifting may have some benefits (after all, when you increase the mass of you muscles they will have higher zero-level energy consumption), but it definitely isn't the most efficient way to burn your calories.
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No. 79507 Kontra
>>79505
I think it would.
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No. 79508
432 kB, 640 × 960
>>79506
No, I mean specifically pulling motions, because a lifetime of computer usage has fucked up my posture with weak back and core muscles.

I mean not anymore since doing deadlifts but you get the point
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No. 79509
>>79506
>but it definitely isn't the most efficient way to burn your calories.
[Citation needed]
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No. 79511
>>79508
That feel when hunchback because too tall and not fitting through doors/having to look down to see fellow humans
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No. 79513
>>79511
>not just bending your knees and doing a silly walk to delect bystanders
ngmi
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No. 79514
>>79509
Calculations. Weight lifting is essentially about a relatively small number of powerful moves to raise your strength. Each move may take considerable energy, but such moves cannot be repeated for a lot of times for purely biochemical reasons, and calorie-wise the ultimate calculation is not in favor of weight lifting.

Running is basically lifting your body (let's suppose it's the average 80 kg) for 10 cm every second (let's ignore fighting the air resistance for the sake of simplicity - it's not the largest share of the energy consumption anyway). For 45 minutes, that would be essentially equivalent to lifting 80 kg at the total height of 270 m. How many times you would lift a 80 kg barbell at the height of 2 m during the same time? I somehow doubt that it will be 135 times (unless you're a very powerful lifter, but in that case it basically will be aeroibic training for you, with no strength increase to be expected).
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No. 79515
>>79514
I see. Say, are you by chance working for the russian ministry of defense in the department that produces the current numbers on land and personnell gains/losses?
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No. 79516 Kontra
That feel when health insurance wants nearly double the money now that I'm an adult, that feel when rent will rise about 30€/month just by a bill from 2021 and this does not even include the current gas prices, so I can just guess that the rent will actually be +60€/month or so next year and will include perhaps another bill for additional payment (150€ have to be paid now). Fuck, I need a fucking job but I got more or less denied the jobs I had over the last 12 months. I don't want to go the postal service and work for them again, I need to find something else.
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No. 79525
>>79516
Have you considered prostitution? Since you most likely live in Berlin, there should be a rich market for cute little boys like you :3

That said, what about barkeeping, shelf stocking, warehouse lackey or any of those other typical student jobs? Or are those the jobs you got rejected from?
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No. 79527
>>79525
Oh, and what about a simple HiWi job? That's how I earned some money during the semester breaks.
I also worked in a factory for some time, but no idea what the current availability of those jobs is.
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No. 79528 Kontra
>>79527
Shit, forgot to Kontra. I apologize.
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No. 79529 Kontra
>>79527
I did HiWi but was basically denied another job for fall. There still is a chance as somebody put my CV up for consideration in case somebody from that institute is still searching but my hopes are low.

>barkeeper

Ach, Ernst.

>factory

Maybe. I worked for the postal service, did both mail and packages but frankly I don't want to, especially winter is shit for this job I can tell you from multiple winters of experience. Maybe I can find a Werksstudenten job, but that means halbe Stelle afaik and that is a considerable time eater and I really want to finish my studies so that I can finally tackle the master thesis (which is important since I want to transition into PhD programs). Fuck that shit, what couldn't I keep my two cozy HiWi jobs, made enough money to get by with a little support from my parents. Back to below the line of poverty in Germany again, yeah! It's kinda funny to see I lived most years of the last decade below the poverty line, I mean this is only partially true since I have some backup plans open, unlike other people, when shit absolutely hits the fan.
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No. 79530
Anybody got an idea why the amount of spam has increased so much? KC? 4chan? Something else?
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No. 79531
>>79530
Many political actors recognize the importance of the Ernstchan think-tank and naturally desire to influence it.
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No. 79532
>>79531
Sehr hilarious, ja.
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No. 79534
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>>79533
NEW! thread
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No. 79535
>>79530
KC has been dead for years, but it seems the K*hl is going the way of all flesh, hence all the refugees.

>>79529
What is the poverty line in Germany?
Do you not get any Bafög whatsoever? Are you living alone or in a shared flat? Do you have any expensive vices?
I am grateful I could study more-less in peace - my parents were just above the line for me getting Bafög (well, I think I would have literally gotten 2-3 Euros or so :-DDD), so I stayed at home. Even going by car daily was less expensive than moving out for me, also that way I was always available for doing chores in and around the house, but well, that was fair considering I didn't pay rent.
But I also took every job I could during the semester breaks, assembly line, shelf stocking, Hiwi was rather cozy, I preferred that.
When I started my PhD I actually moved to one of the most expensive cities (back then) and paid already over 400 Euros for just a single room 20m² apartment, at literally minimum wage (50% E13, amounting to barely 1100 Euros net). At that time I managed to live on only around 130-150 Euros per month (in total), so I even could save some money. In fact the first thing I stopped doing when I started to earn more than bare minimum was not caring about food prices anymore. That is the one luxury I am allowing myself. When I see cheese I fancy, I buy it. When I feel like eating steak, I get a steak. But if necessary I can also survive on cabbage, potatos and onions.

But well, that is academia for you. You will spend a decade as a poor (but rich in mind :^) scholar.
I wouldn't do it again, it's not worth it.