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No. 81996 Systemkontra
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Previous >>81403
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No. 81999
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Dagestan is not having it with the mobilization.
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No. 82000
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TRUST THE PLAN
THIRD STAGE OF THE SMO
[Z]
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No. 82003
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Same picture but about riot police would be true.
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No. 82013
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No. 82019 Kontra
>>82013
That is propaganda, you know. It would be kind of naive to believe that only Russian government has a monopoly on it.

That feel when practically everyone desperately wants to fuck with your brain these days.
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No. 82022
Ukraine is beating Russia on all fronts. What will Ukraines reaction to the soon incoming stick wielding horde be? Lots of "stuff" in Russian controlled regions and Russia proper is having a giggle smoke. Russia is drafting everyone they can get their hands on, including women working in the medical field, rumours are 1 million men are the goal.
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No. 82024
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>>82019
But it is still true and good advice. Damn, or advise, fuck languages. Yeah, BE and AE and horse shit.
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No. 82025
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>>82022
>What will Ukraines reaction to the soon incoming stick wielding horde be?

With Kupyansk blocked for railway transport and the mud season starting, Russian logistics can only worsen. So maybe Russia will do the smart thing and use the conscripts as kulis to carry stuff to the front line, not as cannon fodder?
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No. 82026
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>>82024
Let me rephrase it: I don't give a fuck since the facts check out and the advice to fuck off asap and hide/leave Russia are gold.

Death to Putin and his corrupt dogs, be they oligarchs or crooked politicians or both. Freedom for Ukraine, Russia and Belarus.
t. Russogerm
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No. 82028
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>>82025
>human pack mules
Russia can into Afroindia
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No. 82029
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>>82028
Famous Russian painting. Take note of the German steamer to the right.
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No. 82030
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>>82029
Brain read stReamer and I want "wat".
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No. 82031
>>82019
I don't think that "he wants to fuck with your brain". He most probably gets his money solely from his audience and tells them what they want to hear, which is sometimes not true. I can say a lot of bad things about Katz (and considered it, but didn't want to start a shitshow), but for foreigner he is surely best source of information. If you disagree, provide something better. inb4: Galeev
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No. 82032
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>>82029
"Same painter, different country"

srry, couldn't resist the urge =D
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No. 82033
>>82022
>Ukraine is beating Russia on all fronts.
That's quite an exaggeration. Ukraine does make some advances near Kherson, but at the cost of considerable casualties (see what NYT published recently), and it's already reported to experience a lack of ammunition. Given that Russia holds a well prepared & defensible position there, the Ukrainian groups will likely have to retreat after their advance is exhausted, or face the risk of being encircled.

All that useless loss of life is sickening.
>What will Ukraines reaction to the soon incoming stick wielding horde be?
The horde (that is, the forces which are going to duplicate the number of Russian troops in the area at the very least) will be likely mostly armed with late Soviet weapons, which is better than what a half of the Ukrainians from Teroborona are wielding now anyway. The main point is, that is going to make any Ukrainian advance highly problematic, and the front line is going to turn static for quite a while.
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No. 82036
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No. 82039
>>82033
>That's quite an exaggeration.
From what I can gather Ukraine is advancing everywhere but the area Donetsk to roughly Horlivka.
>or face the risk of being encircled.
The northern defenses Dneiper/Kherson are about to collapse from what I can gather.
>All that useless loss of life is sickening.
Indeed.

We will see what the future will bring. I expect mid term a stalemate at worst and a victory for Ukraine at best.
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No. 82042
>>82036
Is that Kuzya? I told this story on EC couple of years ago. Municipal deputy in my city is a daughter of fleet admiral, who promised Pynya to build six air carriers like the damn Yankees have. Instead he stole the money, and the daughter opened a restraint chain on them. Incredibly based family.
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No. 82043 Kontra
>>82042
I believe that for the money required for building 6 aircraft carriers one could basically buy the whole city of yours.
Not something a single fleet admiral could even theoretically fathom.
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No. 82044
>>82043
You know how it works, to steal money from state it's required to share it with corresponding people (распил-откат-занос), who can cause problems (in FSB, prosecutor's office, etc).
If you're interested in details, https://t.me/infobomb/1227
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No. 82045
Body count (excluding civilians):

  • "over 9000" Ukrainian military fatalities (23 September, Ганна В. Маляр, Ukrainian Deputy MoD)
  • "losses of the Ukrainian army - about 100 thousand people" (Ernst quoting Shoigu on 21 September >>81639 – does that include injured personnel?)

  • "losses of the Russian army - 5,937 people" (Ernst quoting Shoigu on 21 September >>81639 – does that exclude injured personnel?)
  • "about 56,700" combined Russian Federation and proxy military deaths (25 September, Ukr General Staff)

  • "2500" POWs from Ukraine currently held by RF and proxies (25 September?, Deputy PM of Ukraine)
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No. 82046
>>82045
The Ukrainian numbers regarding the Russian losses are pretty surrealistic, even with "the proxies". The US have published some relatively sensible estimates (about 25k?). 6k people is extremely unlikely, of course.

And, surely, it's pretty much the same (just reversed) when it comes to the Ukrainian losses.
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No. 82047
>>82042
>>82044
I wonder if this is how Putin will fall - he'll panic and pick up the phone to launch a nuclear attack only to discover that a true Russian patriot has sold all the copper wiring for the buildings telephone system. Putin is visibly shaken and goes to smoke on the balcony but some shady contractors used Chinese newspapers for the construction and he accidentally falls to his death. The cigarettes are later mislaid when taken by the police for evidence.
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No. 82048
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Bless these Dagestani protesters.
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No. 82050
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>>82045
Both sides could have around 50k loses as in deaths, civilian deaths are probably around 50k too, now multiply the deaths by 3 to get the rough estimate of wounded... Fucking horrible, 150k deaths and 450k wounded.
Mother of god, what have "we" done?
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No. 82051
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>>82047
>The cigarettes are later mislaid when taken by the police for evidence.
The - uhhh - glimmer causes a "cigarette in accident".
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No. 82052
>>82046
Vatniks say that 2+2=6. Militant liberal opposition and Ukrainians say that 2+2=4. But sensible moderate people like us know that truth is always somewhere in the middle, and it must be equal 5.
I mock you, but tbh I myself thought that it's 4,5. That schizo Ukrainian with whom I was arguing in the internet a lot, was closest to truth -- a shameful display.

>>82048
Silly Dagestanis don't know, that morbidly obese woman from United States has scientifically proven that peaceful protests are more effective. It's science, people, SCIENCE!

>>82047
> but some shady contractors used Chinese newspapers for the construction and he accidentally falls to his death
That's pretty much the case. His palace was made by Italian architect and Serbian workers, and he had to rework it, because ventilation malfunctioned and the building was covered with mold.
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No. 82054 Kontra
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>>82052
>schizo Ukrainian
>schizo
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No. 82056
>>82047
Putin will die like Stalin did, in his own piss as an old man. Only difference is that Putin has a bigger palace.
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No. 82078
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No. 82085
>>82056
So, five more years?
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No. 82088 Kontra
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Shocking revelations!
>“I did it myself,” Prigozhin said Monday after long denying any associations with the mercenary group.

>In an uncharacteristically candid statement on his company’s social media page, Prigozhin said he formed the mercenary unit on May 1, 2014.
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No. 82089 Kontra
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These images are oddly familiar looking...
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No. 82090
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He has military experience btw, good candidate.
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No. 82091 Kontra
>>82089
Heh, that's what I thought too, Kamerad.
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No. 82093
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>”Any great warrior is also a scholar, and a poet, and an artist, and an actor, and a musician, and a Russian Mongol, and an Italian, and a Jew, and a black guy, and a punani eater, and a sheriff, and a aikido master, and a sex symbol, and a fat guy.”
Heed the wise words of Стивен Фредерик Сигал, a true friend of the russian people.
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No. 82095 Kontra
>>82093
>While serving as stunt coordinator for the film Out for Justice, starring Steven Seagal, Seagal stated that due to his aikido training he was 'immune' to being choked unconscious. It has been alleged that at some point LeBell heard about the claim and gave Seagal the opportunity to prove it. LeBell is said to have placed his arms around Seagal's neck, and once Seagal said "go", proceeded to choke him unconscious, with Seagal losing control of his bowels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_LeBell#Conflict_with_Steven_Seagal
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No. 82097 Kontra
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> muh nukes
> people, who are supposed to handle nukes, are in Ukrainian captivity
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No. 82098 Kontra
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> ask your gfs, mothers for tampons to insert them into bullet holes.
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No. 82099 Kontra
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>>82097
That picture is great :D
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No. 82101
>>82099
>pic is great

I agree but then it dawned upon me that their relation is far from opposing in a sense. Reality needs fiction to be reality, reality operates with fictionality.
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No. 82102
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>>82098
>video2022-09-2620-11-57.mp4
>ask your gfs, mothers for tampons to insert them into bullet holes.
Cannot believe that the army does not provide that shit, what an absolute and dystopian shite fest
>Mimimi please men, take care of yourselves
Yeah, like Russia does, all is lost for your state. I welcome the day when the war is over and a new, free Russia arises from the ashes.

>>82097
>1584121867090.png
How the fuck man... Fuck reality.
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No. 82103 Kontra
>>82101
slav_philosopher.jpg
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No. 82104
12,0 MB, 480 × 848, 1:26
>>82099
> mobilization[...].mp4
This is few years old video from protests. People called him police provocateur, but he was right about everything...

Btw this video >>81836 turned out to be old too. It's about handling forest fires. This time there are no beds...
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No. 82105
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>>82104
>1184ddc0-2d7[...].mp4
Where are the sleeping bags?
Why is Russia such a shithole? Inb4 Ukraine is a shithole too, yeah, that is true, but c'mon.
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No. 82106 Kontra
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>>82104
My bad. My intention isn't to post bullshit or mischaracterize events, but it will happen. Especially since I can't speak Russian.

Thanks for the correction!
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No. 82114 Kontra
>>82090
хохол / хохлы
Schneehöhle
Mere coincidence???
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No. 82134 Kontra
>>82114
Worse: pathological apophenia. :3
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No. 82174
Also, good source from Ukraine tbh. Focuses on the effects of the war on civilians.

https://assembly.org.ua/
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No. 82176 Kontra
>>82098
>mother
>gf
That tfw when.
Does sister work?
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No. 82179
261000 men fled Russia after mobilization was announced, according to Russia...
Rumours are protests in Russian cities is slooowly ramping up...
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No. 82183
>>82179
This is it.
Putler is truly finished this time! Wectern thousand year reich soon!
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No. 82185
>>82179
>Rumours are protests in Russian cities is slooowly ramping up...
Rumors are Putin has crawled under his table crying and calling for mom. But I somehow doubt them.
Losing 250 thousand civilians isn't very good for the country but definitely isn't detrimental to Russia's efforts. I happen to know one of these people, by the way (a long Internet acquaintance of mine). The rumors (guess who's spreading them) have scared the hell out of him, though he's definitely the last man to be conscripted, so he fled to another country of the Union, practically penniless, and now is crying for help, hoping someone has any acquaintances there. To say I don't worry for him would be far from true (he wasn't very well in the head even before that), but here I can only appeal to common sense, for what it's worth...
Damn the politicians.
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No. 82187
>>82183
Have you ever posted something which is not a meme? So what's going in with Orban and the referendum in Hungary about the sanctions against Russia? Down with Orban btw. Redbull me us on Hungary.
>Hungary’s government will be the first to ask the people about sanctions imposed on Russia in response to the war in Ukraine, Prime Minister Viktor Orban said at the opening of parliament’s autumn session on Monday.
https://dailynewshungary.com/orban-a-dwarf-imposes-a-sanction-on-a-giant/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/hungary-pm-orban-says-eu-sanctions-russia-have-backfired-2022-09-26/
https://www.euronews.com/2022/09/26/stop-orban-exporting-his-informational-autocracy-across-europe-view

>>82185
Well, from what I can gather protests are happening, I just don't know if the "slowly growing" part is true, since the state is "dissolving" the protests with "vigour".
>The rumors (guess who's spreading them)
Who? Am I daft, I guess you mean all people opposed? Well, the bunker story might be spread by western media, but ehhh.
The situation of your friend is sad, him being not well in the heda is also sad, tbh I cut contact to a lot of people not well in the heda, catering to their delusions is beyond mentally draining.
I wish the best for you and your deranged friend.

>Damn the politicians.
Well, yes.
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No. 82193
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Kraken unit released a 9 minute long video about fights in Balakliya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWm6Qyq4YUo
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No. 82202 Kontra
>>82187
>Have you ever posted something which is not a meme?

21st-century desperate flight into the postpolitical.
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No. 82209 Kontra
>>82185
>he fled to another country of the Union
You mean he fled the RF for another country of the Union whose sole members are the RF and Belarus? I never know if people are joking and I'm stupid, or just the latter.
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No. 82210 Kontra
>>82209
infa 83% it's Soviet Union
infa 64% it's Georgia
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No. 82212
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No retraining for these guys. To the front you go.

>>82193
Great video.
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No. 82215
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>>82212
Training? Supplies? Equipment? Naahh, let's just throw the men away!
What the fuck man?!
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No. 82240
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No. 82242 Kontra
1,9 MB, 448 × 720, 0:28
Fug :DD
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No. 82259 Kontra
>>82209
>You mean he fled the RF for another country of the Union whose sole members are the RF and Belarus?
There are many "Unions" on the post-Soviet Area, you know. Anyway, that was a bit of a brainfart on my part, since СНГ is a commonwealth (Содружество), not a union (Союз). I've always been mixing it up.
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No. 82260
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No. 82272 Kontra
>>82259
I see.
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No. 82273 Kontra
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War-related news:
The drummer of a Russian band, "Oligarkh", was denied from crossing the Russian border to Finland because he had worked as a welder ten years ago. Apparently the border guards have a list of professions and competences which are not allowed to leave Russia.
Source in Finnish: https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12640091

How long until the borders are completely closed? I think Peskov said some days ago that borders wont be closed, so I'll give it a week and a half tops. Betting one imaginary euro on it.
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No. 82274
>>82273
How hard is it to sneak into Finland? It seems like a lot of terrain to cover.
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No. 82275
>Nord Stream pipeline leaks raise suspicions of sabotage
wut
>Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, said earlier on Tuesday that three offshore lines of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/kremlin-sabotage-cannot-be-ruled-out-reason-nord-stream-damage-2022-09-27/
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/nord-stream-operator-says-three-offshore-gas-pipelines-damaged-one-day-2022-09-27/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2zrI8V0FEE
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No. 82276
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>>82275
>US did it
>Russia did it
>US did it because Germany and Russia came to an [[[agreement]]]
>pressure with the long term shutdown fucked it all up
>US-Saudis&Co did it to extort err export gas and oil with the juicy markup for even longer
So....
3 holes on at least 2 different pipes with at least 30km distance between the holes furthest from each other.
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No. 82277
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>>82274
>How hard is it to sneak into Finland? It seems like a lot of terrain to cover.
There are a few places that have roads pretty close on both sides, though the areas are guarded well. The terrain overall is passable, but can't say what the chances of getting caught are. Probably the longer you go about hiking through the forests in the middle of nowhere, the better your chances. Last week four Russians were caught crossing the border illegally after which they applied for asylum. The border guards requested funding to build a wall :D
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No. 82278
>>82276
I cannot think up any convincing reason for Russia to do it - and essentially in NATO waters of all places.
So, it must be the US or some third party. But that would require military divers with explosive mines, mind you.
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No. 82279 Kontra
>>82278
>in NATO waters of all places.
As far as I know pipelines are maintained from the inside with "pigs" that travel along the pipe. Probably not too difficult to put a little boom on board of a pig.

I will of course blame the Swedes since their power companies will benefit from this :D
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No. 82280
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>>82278
Or a submarine.
The quoted theories were from the web.
My personal take: Either US/NATO to escalate further and to deny a possible deal with Russia or, unlikely but not impossible, Russia/n 5D chess to further destabilize Europe, but the loss of the gas lever isn't an advantage, that is for certain. You can mostly rule out a natural cause, I think the Bornholm leaks are like 50km apart and on different pipes.

I don't think we will ever get the truth. Or maybe we got all rused and mother nature is fucking us in the ass, but from official news there were no "natural" quakes but only explosions from the gas leaks.
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No. 82281
>>82279
This, not impossible for the Russians to send something from their ends through the pipes, that is what I thought too, but I see little benefit for Russia to do that, unless they want to put all the blame on [[[the West]]] and/or the US. Maybe I just cannot into 5D chess.
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No. 82282
>Farmers among Russians drafted into the military, Putin says
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/farmers-among-russians-drafted-into-military-putin-says-2022-09-27/
>Occupied regions of Ukraine vote to join Russia in staged referendums
>With around 15% of the vote counted, preliminary results reported Tuesday by Russian state media showed well over 97% voting in favor of the measure in all the regions.
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/27/1125322026/russia-ukraine-referendums
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No. 82283 Kontra
>>82282
>>With around 15% of the vote counted, preliminary results reported Tuesday by Russian state media showed well over 97% voting in favor of the measure in all the regions.
A shame. I hoped for 146% at the very least.
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No. 82284
>>82282
>>82281
Preliminary reports point towards a German forklift operator who believes this was a necessary step to "make the weaklings understand."

It was the Americans
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No. 82285
>>82281
Incompetence argument: if it were Russian, they would be caught.
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No. 82286
43 kB, 363 × 363
>>82285
Has anyone ever looked into your pipes?
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No. 82287 Kontra
>>82285
Incompetence argument: Russians were attempting to perform maintenance which led to accidental explosions
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No. 82288
4 kB, 259 × 194
heh
>CIA warned Berlin about possible attacks on gas pipelines in summer - Spiegel
https://www.reuters.com/world/cia-warned-berlin-about-possible-attacks-gas-pipelines-summer-spiegel-2022-09-27/
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No. 82290
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>>82275
If it were 2019 it would be the biggest news story of the decade and we'd all be making funny menes about it really being a Dane farting in the Baltic.

>>82278
It's to spread panic and misdirection at the cost of a pipeline that was never going to be used. Europe is heading into the next round of sanctions on the same day Poland completed its pipeline with Norway, gas prices had been falling and Russia just last week threatened that Ukraine would target a pipeline.

Even if you see through the smoke and don't get lost in a conspiracy theory, Russia now threatens European gas infrastructure and will maintain plausible deniability about it. Nord Stream I will be mysteriously fine but those big gas storage sites in Germany may soon suffer smoking accidents.
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No. 82292
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>>82215
Would western analysts give Ukraine 4 days if they watched "Green Elephant"? A serious question.
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No. 82293
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> imperial LARPers in army use pre-revolutionary orthography
I want to learn 16-th century Russian language and use only it for communication.
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No. 82300
>>82288
So it's obvious that CIA did this. Russia had no need to how up pipelines, they can just turn off the gas. This was CIA ensuring that it cannot be turned back on. There is no way back, the bridges are cut.
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No. 82301 Kontra
>>82300
Additional info: here is proof that RAND Cooperation planned this war against Germany. https://nyadagbladet.se/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/rand-corporation-ukraina-energikris.pdf
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No. 82302 Kontra
>>82301
Ach fefe
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No. 82303
>>82293
>imperial LARPers in army use pre-revolutionary orthography
They don't. Note the complete absence of word-final yers.
Also, it may be a complete fake.
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No. 82304
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>>82290
>It's to spread panic and misdirection
Well, probably
>Even if you see through the smoke and don't get lost in a conspiracy theory
>big gas storage sites in Germany may soon suffer smoking accidents
Oh, well...

Also: Bucha and all the other massacres, Anmesty comes in and suddenly sobs think Ukraine is the same.
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No. 82307
So, drones were spotted near Norwegian oil rigs or at least in Norwegian waters...
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/norway-strengthen-security-oil-gas-installations-2022-09-27/
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No. 82309
>>82290
>It's to spread panic and misdirection
That argument may be applied equally well to virtually any party involved.
>at the cost of a pipeline that was never going to be used
How can one know that it was never going to be used? Never during Putin's reign at best, and even that isn't guaranteed (our dear dictator still can outlive most European leaders as a politician). And Gazprom will certainly outlive Putin as a corporation.
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No. 82310 Kontra
>>82309
P.S.: By the way, rumors are the gas alone was worth about $2 bln.
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No. 82312
>>82301
You need to get your mind inspected if you believe that to be a report by a consultancy. Let me cynically edumacate Ernsts without touching the content - there's no graph and visual aids which is 99% of why government pays consultants, Mr. senior leader needs his snazzy graphs that conform to his worldview because otherwise why pay consultants? Who is going to access the information when they have 100 other things to do and shamelessly borrow content? A good slideshow is life in the working world.

I've also worked with RAND before so can vouch that isn't how they structure documents. I've never seen them do an executive summary which, now that I think about it, is really annoying but relates to the kind of work they do which is much heavier on the number crunching and broad market side.

>>82309
Because Europe isn't going to buy Russian gas again unless something outlandish happens. Even in an outlandish scenario of Russians overthrowing their government and submitting their application to re-join the human race, I don't see anyone renewing the dependence on Russian gas when it's been so flagrantly used as a weapon to try to force Europe to enable genocide on the continent.

>rumors are the gas alone was worth about $2 bln

It all sounds like hot-air to me. jogge was self-made
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No. 82313
>>82312
>You need to get your mind inspected
Don't feed it. Just don't.

>Because Europe isn't going to buy Russian gas again unless something outlandish happens.
Yes
>Even in an outlandish scenario of Russians overthrowing their government and submitting their application to re-join the human race, I don't see anyone renewing the dependence...
Well, once or rather, if Russia is stable and democratic... I hope we go green and nuclear, fuck fossil fuel.
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No. 82316 Kontra
127 kB, 1280 × 897
>>82310
The sale price could've been 2bln. So 2 roubles of production cost?))

Anyways I don't think Russians really mind losing some gas since when Finland stopped buying it, they flared it off for weeks close to the border in a way that the flames were visible here :D Sure, the total flared gas was probably way less than went up from the pipes now.

Have a bonus zoomer meme.
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No. 82318 Kontra
523 kB, 960 × 1280
>>82316
Sus!
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No. 82319
Russia wants all of the Donetsk Oblast and denies allegations of involvement in the pipe explosion.

Rumours are close to 1.5 million people fled Russia after the announcement of the mobilization, a similar number of Ukrainians is rumoured to have moved to Russia after the start of hostilities, at least tens of thousands were forcefully relocated.
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No. 82320
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No. 82321
The leaks will last at least for 7 days, after that investigations will begin.
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No. 82322 Kontra
2,0 MB, 1920 × 1080, 0:06
Finnish news interviewing people about the border.

Q: Should the border be closed from all Russians?
A: It was in '44. Why was it opened?

>>82318
:DDD
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No. 82323 Kontra
936 kB, 426 × 238, 0:10
Reports about Russian troops in Kherson being issued iodine :DD what a fun game, nuclear chicken :DD

I think they might go so far as to issue direct nuclear threats in response to attacks on lawful and 97% Russian land. Of course, it wouldn't stop any counter-attacks and then what? :DD
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No. 82324
I dunno about the details of the gas delivery contracts, but they certainly had clauses for payments in exchange for missed deliveries, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_damages
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertragsstrafe
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No. 82325
>>82323
And then you die. With luck, it will be quick. Russia definitely has a sufficient nuclear arsenal to destroy most NATO strategic objects, also destroying most cities in process. You can try to escape, of course, but I strongly suspect that 90% of the survivors would die in the upcoming years regardless. That's without the nuclear winter. With that, only a tiny portion of the global population, all located near the equator, would survive.
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No. 82326 Kontra
>>82325
P.S.: The clearly positive part in that scenario is that me, my friends in Russia and my friends in the US and Spain are virtually guaranteed to die in a single day.
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No. 82327 Kontra
75 kB, 276 × 288
>>82326
>positive
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No. 82329 Kontra
384 kB, 2048 × 2048
>>82326
Only true friends hope for a quick death by nuclear holocaust for each other <3
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No. 82331
79 kB, 320 × 238, 0:01
>>82325
Russia also has a sufficient non-nuclear arsenal to erase Ukraine from the map. I feel like I would survive. Our continent would be reclaimed by the Swiss with several peripheral peoples living under some kind of protectorate tributary states (Portuguese, Saami, Icelanders).
It would probably be the dawn of a new, fairer Europe.
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No. 82332
We've seen "world's second army" in action. What should we expect from "world's second nuclear arsenal"?
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No. 82333 Kontra
>>82332
>We've seen "world's second army" in action. What should we expect from "world's second nuclear arsenal"?
I most definitely wouldn't want to test it.
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No. 82334 Kontra
>>82332
And yes, it's world's FIRST nuclear arsenal.
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No. 82335 Kontra
On the one hand we all know Russia would come out a glass landscape from an actual nuclear exchange.
On the other hand, we all know that Germany would already be a glass landscape by then.
So I'd rather not.
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No. 82336
I advocate for nuclear strike on Voronezh. From Russian side. Think of it: Putin will show western leaders that he's absolute madman and they better be careful with him. And at the same time it won't trigger any response from them, because it's Russian inner busyness.

Yes, few millions people will die, but newly conquered territories will compensate loss of the population.
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No. 82338
>>82336
That's Keyser Söze tier, I'd love it.
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No. 82339
Conspiracy theory: majority of Russian soldiers are "dead souls". They've already died or never existed at all, but their commanders keep receiving their wages. When Shoigu tells about 5k of casualties, he really believes it, because officers won't report casualties for practical reasons.
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No. 82340
>>82339
I like it, I remember the book having some funny passages.
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No. 82343
>>82339
Happens all the time, happend in Afghanistan too, no wonder they folded after 3 seconds once the US left.
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No. 82345 Kontra
89 kB, 600 × 600
>>82343
Well, shite posting aside, I assume Russian soldiers get paid via electric bank transfer so no way in hell the general gets a cut from their pay. Afghanistan obviously did not fall thanks to non existent soldiers, there is also corruption, lack of any kind of organisation, lack of will to fight, a decent chunk of Talib sympathizers or at least people willing to tolerate Talibs and so on. What a shite show, wish Russia did not fuck up after the SU fell, would be rad to have a modern and democratic Russia.
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No. 82346
>>82345
Thank you, Herr Hauptscharführer Arschberger. I think everyone owes you for explaining reality, especially that russian who was positively, certainly 100% serious about the "dead souls" thing.
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No. 82348 Kontra
>>82345
>What a shite show, wish Russia did not fuck up after the SU fell
In reality, game was rigged since begining.
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No. 82351
54 kB, 640 × 480
I'm still not seeing any plan emerging on what a victory looks like. Initially Russia had a vague plan but I'm not even sure of that anymore - peace with honour perhaps.

The realist school in America is trying to survive (https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/27/russia-defeat-ukraine-america-problem-hubris/) but there's nothing covering even a modest victory. What happens to Russia that makes ordinary Russians even remotely want to live in such a world, what is the plan to integrate Russia into the international order so we're not here again in 30 years?

>>82323
>Reports about Russian troops in Kherson being issued iodine :DD what a fun game, nuclear chicken :DD

I wonder how many people have taken iodine in this war already and will soon be experiencing the joys of thyroid cancer.

>>82324
>penal damages

oh fugg xDDD
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No. 82352
There are rumours Ukraine caught their first "mobilized" Russian soldiers, kek.

>>82351
>iodine
rusenin'gs?
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No. 82353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyZhzpq2GdQ
DW with the resigned (hue) Russian Diplomat
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No. 82355
9,5 MB, 264 × 480, 2:27
>>82351
Good read, thanks for bousting's. Indeed, for me it's very troubling that there's no real wins to be handed to Russia that could end the war with any sort of grace. Ukraine probably doesn't want to (and who's in a position to tell them otherwise) lose any territory or be blocked from NATO or EU by a treaty. What else is there? Maybe if they could be convinced that they Ukrainian military is completely destroyed and de-nazified (whatever that means) they could go home, fund some of the rebuilding of Ukraine and we could all just get along.

>what is the plan to integrate Russia into the international order so we're not here again in 30 years?
Now that's a question.

>>82352
I saw such a video but wasn't sure if it was authentic, so didn't post.
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No. 82358 Kontra
48 kB, 984 × 510
14,0 MB, 1920 × 1080, 0:38
Is there better quality footage of this vote counting? :D I think it's of the Donetsk referendum to join Russia or something. Would be nice to see the votes a bit clearer from real HD video.
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No. 82359 Kontra
>>82357
There is, I am sure I've seen this in "hd" on some non russian news channel, what a shite show. And no, none of the 2 multiple choice cube thingies are marked, but who cares.... And the post is gone. The last sentence was: There are even Nos, 2. Or something like that, fuck that shit.
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No. 82361 Kontra
5,1 MB, 576 × 608, 0:59
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No. 82362
>>82358
https://www.1tv.ru/news/2022-09-26/438426-vse_chetyre_referenduma_o_vhozhdenii_v_sostav_rossii_sostoyalis

It's surely somewhere in the related videos, but I cannot go further. The rest of the path you must travel alone, Pekka-san.
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No. 82366
>>82362
Nah, I think on the frame with the squares from your sauce you can faintly see a mark, the webm/mp4 from the fin is available in HD afaik but obviously not in this one, and yes, there are no markings in the squares in that one. And doge dammit, you made me watch perve kanal, fugg you ::xX--DDDD
Russia is finished
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No. 82367 Kontra
259 kB, 1286 × 1611
>>82362
But it's too dangerous, master João! I will get lost and they'll corrupt my thoughts!

>>82359
My bad, I posted too hastily and had to clarify.
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No. 82370
283 kB, 640 × 410
>>82367
>pic
kek

Don't let him brainwash you, it is over if you watch perve kanal!
winnie_poo_communist_honey_trap.jpg
pic maybe unrelated
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No. 82372 Kontra
1,7 MB, 853 × 480, 0:54
>>82370
>perkenal
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No. 82377 Kontra
16,0 MB, 648 × 1080, 1:52
I just wonder how Russia will ever back out of the war if they can't manage to hold the areas where the referendums were held... How could peace ever be achieved when Ukraine occupies "Russian territory". Or maybe the voting was deliberately so badly staged, that they can still refuse the outcome and not claim the areas.

Who knows. Video unrelated, brick interviewing some Russians.
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No. 82379
>>82319
>Rumours are close to 1.5 million peop
Rumours are 200 million fled Russia and the remaining -50 million are plotting a revolution while being pushed to the front with .5 rusty AKs per soldier and now ammunition, with only glasses of mouldy pickles as provisions and no shoes.
Vladolf the Putler died of cancer two months ago and Zelensky will hold his parade in red square tomorrow. watch less copium videos for leftist soy cucks on YouTube, they hurt the brain
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No. 82384
>>82377
Let's assume "they can't manage to hold the areas" and "Ukraine occupies 'Russian territory'", which I think quite likely. If whoever controls Russia really wanted it to back out and if Kyiv wanted to help Moscow save face (both of which seems very unlikely), one solution that comes to mind is staging a reverse sham poll in the recaptured areas: "Do you support re-accession to Ukraine?" That poll would only have to meet the same low standards that Russia and proxies deemed sufficient in September 2022 (of course, in reality Moscow would still cry foul and Ukraine won't allow a referendum in the first place). There would be an overwhelming majority for re-accession, and because the will of her people is always what's most important to the Russian Federation, she would grant her people their wish and relinquish her claim, thus extricating herself of the situation you have described, and all would live happily everafter.
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No. 82396
Everyone who posts his opinion ITT should at first specify:
  1. Whose is Crimea?
  2. Whose is Karabah?
Without it we won't go anywhere.

Probably a really meaningful political coordinates would have attitude to these two questions as their axes.
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No. 82397
>>82377
Embarrassing behavior tbh.
I wonder where he was during the january protests + riots.

Probably sitting at home like the rest of us, judging by the fact that he's not either dead, or in prison for "terrorism" after being tortured in the basement by our secret services.
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No. 82398 Kontra
>>82379
This is What most Ernsts believe. So sad, brainwashed by Western Media.
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No. 82403
>>82377
>I just wonder how Russia will ever back out of the war if they can't manage to hold the areas where the referendums were held... How could peace ever be achieved when Ukraine occupies "Russian territory"
It hast always been clear that Russia will stop any attacks on Russian territory with all means, including nuclear weapons. Should NATO and their corrupt fascist junta in Kiew attack Russian territory, they will have to suffer the consequences. It has always been doctrine to respond to attacks on the Rodina with the most extreme means at Russia's disposal. Russia can destroy Warsaw, Berlin and London with one single rocket and then have it go on to bomb New York. Russia can make the UK a nuclear wasteland with Poseidon. Either NATO keeps that in mind or NATO will be destroyed. NATO went to war with Russia, but somehow, they do not grasp that. They think they will not suffer true consequences. To keep their population of naive idiots calm, they tell them lies of so-called 'Ukraine-war'. The sheeple are not even told about the war. In Russia, no such foolishness exists. Every Russian knows that Russia is at war with NATO and that the special military operation in Ukraine is only part of it.
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No. 82405
>>82403
Nothing will happen with muh nooks, but it still caters nicely to the German Angst.
If there was a real risk of nuclear repercussions, the US wouldn't have allowed the Ukrainians to use their weapons on all of Ukraines territory, including Crimea.
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No. 82408
Fourth pipeline leak.
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No. 82409 Kontra
18 more HIMARS for Ukraine
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No. 82410 Kontra
>>82408
Well Done, USA
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No. 82411 Kontra
Claims that Russia is losing, that the referenda are shams, and that mobilizing 300,000 old men without enough equipment won't fix their problems rest on a mode analysis that privileges white, western "science" over traditional Russian ways of knowing.

You say that 98% of people in Zaporizhzhia Oblast voting to be annexed is implausible. I say that you should check your privilege and consider that maybe voting serves a different purpose in the east than merely getting someone to check a box reflecting their preference.
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No. 82413
>>82411
This is a clear case of western cultural imperialism.
Instead of embracing their own healthy, bipoc culture of oriental despotism, they feel pressured to adhere to western socio-normative rituals such as voting.
And of course, since the culture of voting is foreign to them, they fail to perform it properly, which the westerners use to further problematize them as unable or unwilling to adopt their cultural norms, perpetuating the cycle of othering, oppression, disenfranchisement.
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No. 82414 Kontra
>>82411
Why don't you post something useful for once? So what is Orban doing, what does the average Hungarian think about the war and possible repercussions?

>If gas has been cut off from Germany than why are those pipes full of gas ?
>How did Germany get gas reserves to 90% full without breaching sanctions when the gas has been cut?
>Why is Germany opposing heavy weapons to Ukraine?
>And why is Germany delaying delivery of their promised weapons such as air defense?
>And what happened to never again?!!!!

>USA planned this war for years and overthrown a legit Ukrainian government in 2014 with their CIA agents. They installed their puppets to lead the country and further escalate the war. Hope Russia kicks their buts once and for all. EU citizens are not supporting this war but US and UK terrorists just don't want to stop. It will be hard lesson not to draw Russia into a war, Ukraine already lost 1/5 of territory and will never regain it again, that's the fact and they had a chance in April with peace talks but UK didn't want to stop the war. You want a war, you have it. But remember the winter is coming. ;)

>What Ukraine lacks most isn't weapons, it's brains.
Weapons, they had a lot more than the West can provide them, but they lost everything, not because the weapons were obsolete (Luhansk and Donetsk use the same ones), but because they are braces.
>As proof, they replaced their staff to prove that they were capable of advancing, at the cost of colossal losses and for a mediocre result (in the eyes of a member of the NATO staff the life of a Ukrainian is not worth much and as they are the ones who are in charge ....).
>You will tell me that it is not only at the general staff that neurons are missing, when you see and listen to who is running the country, you understand better why he is bankrupt.

>When will the West (the USA, UK, and EU) stop the madness? Providing more weapons will not solve the problem but force Russia to hit targets outside Ukraine. This means the beginning of nuclear war. Four regions voted to join Russia, the west cannot and will not fight Russia on its territory. The USA and the West provoking Russia to use nuke, please, stop this!
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No. 82415
>>82414
>If gas has been cut off from Germany than why are those pipes full of gas ?

Because Russia filled NS2 up with gas before it was opened. It is a one way route so they couldn't just suck it back.

>How did Germany get gas reserves to 90% full without breaching sanctions when the gas has been cut?

Russia isn't the only country with gas. Just a very cheap one.

>Why is Germany opposing heavy weapons to Ukraine?

Because our government sucks donkey dick

>And why is Germany delaying delivery of their promised weapons such as air defense?

Because our government sucks donkey dick

>And what happened to never again?!!!!

Who said that?

>USA planned this war for years and overthrown a legit Ukrainian government in 2014 w...

Schizo lol

>What Ukraine lacks most isn't weapons, it's brains.

Weapons, they had a lot more than the West can provide them, but they lost everything, not because the weapons were obsolete (Luhansk and Donetsk use the same ones), but because they are braces.

>As proof, they replaced their staff to prove that they were capable of advancing, at the cost of colossal losses and for a mediocre result (in the eyes of a member of the NATO staff the life of a Ukrainian is not worth much and as they are the ones who are in charge ....).
>You will tell me that it is not only at the general staff that neurons are missing, when you see and listen to who is running the country, you understand better why he is bankrupt.

>When will th...

What is it with all that schizo quoting anyway
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No. 82416
>>82411
This, but unironically.
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No. 82417
>>82405
Why would USA care if some Pooropean shitholes get nuked?
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No. 82418
>>82415
>Because our government sucks donkey dick
While it does and I want more heavy German shit in Ukraine, Germany is still playing the switcheroo, eastern shitholes send their stuff and we replace it with new German stuff over the years.

>What is it with all that schizo quoting anyway
Inspired by Hungary, powered by Youtube (comments from DW and Russian Youtube channels opposed to the war). No reason to rummage in quotes from shitposts anyway, what are ya doing niggu?
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No. 82420
>>82418
>what are ya doing niggu?

Just answering to posts I didn't actually read because I'm bored at work.
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No. 82422
>>82418
>While it does and I want more heavy German shit in Ukraine, Germany is still playing the switcheroo, eastern shitholes send their stuff and we replace it with new German stuff over the years.
Germany has completely gambled its economy away with this shit and enviro-green wishful thinking and is facing rapid deindustrialization. Bet against anaything German and you will win. Stock analysis don't lie because their livelihood depends on being right. And they say the German economy is too decline to the levels of Greece or Argentine.

And you retard want more of this, hoping it will enrage Le ebul Vladolf Putler. And I bet you will blame him once you face the reality of living in a dirtpoor coubtry. Fucking retard
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No. 82423 Kontra
204 kB, 460 × 668, 0:04
> schizo posting again
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No. 82424 Kontra
2,0 MB, 468 × 480, 0:29
Looks like the last land border crossing between Russia and EU is closing from tourists at the end of this day.

#BanEveryone
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No. 82425 Kontra
>>82414
>>82418
Yet another German here. The crucial difference is that Hungary's post was easy to parse and had entertainment value, but yours was a rambling, incoherent logorrhea, and it was not clear if and who you were quoting or rephrasing, at least to me. Next time, how about starting with some context such as
>Youtube comments from DW and Russian Youtube channels opposed to the war:
so the busy Ernstchan readership can better gauge whether reading the rest of your post will be worth their time? Or just post an executive summary, such as
>There are assessments/opinions I disagree with on the World Wide Web.
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No. 82429
29 kB, 293 × 293
>>82424
>Looks like the last land border crossing between Russia and EU is closing from tourists at the end of this day.

I present alternative facts, courtesy of Barents Observer from Kirkenes:
>September 29, 2022
>Storskog is now only land border to Europe open for Russian tourists
>Asked by the Barents Observer if Norway will follow Finland and ban most tourist visa holders to enter via Storskog, spokesperson with the Foreign Ministry, Ragnhild Håland Simenstad, said it would be for the Ministry of Justice to answer. The Justice Ministry has not replied to questions on the issue.
https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/borders/2022/09/storskog-now-only-land-border-europe-open-russian-tourists

In Russian:
>Норвегия стала единственной европейской страной, куда можно попасть через сухопутную границу по туристической визе
https://thebarentsobserver.com/ru/granicy/2022/09/norvegiya-stala-edinstvennoy-evropeyskoy-stranoy-kuda-mozhno-popast-cherez
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No. 82430 Kontra
>>82429
How is that an alternative fact? Norway is not an EU member state.
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No. 82431 Kontra
>>82425
>replying to the schizo
FOR FUCKS SAKE WHY DON'T YOU ABSOLUTE INTERNET NEWFAGS NOT FUCK OFF WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT
Don't feed the troll?
Fucking imbeciles I swear
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No. 82432
>>82430
Is Ukraine am EU or Nato Member?
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No. 82433 Kontra
38 kB, 960 × 634
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No. 82434 Kontra
>>82431
You got the wrong post? None of the posts in your chain contain the creature, but nevertheless you are right.
>Peskov told reporters that the heads of the four regions will sign treaties to join Russia during Friday's ceremony at the Kremlin's St. George's Hall.
>Putin will also give a major speech following the signing ceremony in the Kremlin and will meet with Moscow-appointed administrators of the regions.
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-ukraine-updates-kremlin-to-annex-four-more-ukrainian-regions-after-sham-referenda/a-63275377
And what nonsense will he spout?

>Analysis: India sharpens stand on Ukraine war but business as usual with Russia
Lip service. Well, I cannot blame India.
https://www.reuters.com/world/india-sharpens-stand-ukraine-war-business-usual-with-russia-2022-09-28/
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No. 82435 Kontra
>>82434
>And what nonsense will he spout?
Is it something unpredictable? The usual stuff: brothers reuniting, nuclear threats from the West, Nazis in Kiev, readiness to protect the Russian soil etc.
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No. 82436
>>82431
Why so mad bro 🤣
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No. 82437
>>82425
Autism.jpg
Well, I guess you are right on and with all points. Anyway, all Hungary does here in the last Ukraine threads is meme. I actually had "fun" quotes from Youtube too but decided not to post them.

Russia is finished.

>>82435
Yeah, nevermind.

>Russia’s spies misread Ukraine and misled Kremlin as war loomed
leaked documents and audio I guess
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/?itid=ap_gregmiller
(pay/registration wall) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/28/world/europe/russian-soldiers-phone-calls-ukraine.html
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No. 82438 Kontra
>>82436
Probably because the only thing certain is that all the country is neck deep in shit and the leadership does everything to make it worse? Anyway, I tend to kontra all unimportant/irrelevant posts of mine.
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No. 82440 Kontra
38 kB, 458 × 288
>>82430
Oh, I must be getting old, Norway is Schengen but of course it's not EU.
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No. 82442 Kontra
>>82414
Western media has thrown around the word "referendum", but Orbán is not gonna hold a referendum.
That's messy, costly and also legally defined.

We're going to have a "national consultation", which is completely different legally speaking. What that means is that they mail out to every voting age person a (carefully worded) questionnaire and then analyse the results that come back.

Orbán does this when he needs "backing up" against the EU in the form of the population supporting whatever the fuck his plan is.
If he's got balls that means that he basically already decided to just unilaterally do away with the sanctions and gonna use this survey as a casus to do so in front of the EU.

As for the people, they don't like Russia all that much (besides that 15-20% that votes far-right), but they sure as fuck don't want to pay 80% of their paychecks for utilities in the name of "democracy".
The only form of sanctions that enjoy any support is the type that's put on oligarchs, otherwise only 20-30% want to go on with the currently implemented sanctions to support Ukraine.
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No. 82444
>>82442
Thanks for the info. Doge bless!

Ahh, I kept wonderin' what would happen with the "referendum". I'd be unhappy if he scrapped the sanctions, but I cannot force my will upon others, I for one am willing to suffer financially till Ukraine has won.

>but they sure as fuck don't want to pay 80% of their paychecks for utilities in the name of "democracy"
Now, that would be unreasonable, surely there is something that could be done, in theory at least. Or not in theory.
_____

>China's partner Russia not mentioned during space Congress in Paris
>PARIS — China is looking to build partnerships for its upcoming missions to the moon and deep ventures into the solar system, while omitting mention of main partner Russia.
https://spacenews.com/china-seeks-new-partners-for-lunar-and-deep-space-exploration/
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No. 82446
Russia is attacking Odessa or the Navy HQ (hue) there with Iranian drones which are copies of Murkan drones. Russia is shelling other cities, one grain depot was hit.
murkan_cum_food_pipeline_for_ukraine.gif

Seems like the sham referendums set some Ukrainian behinds on fire.

>More than half of Russians feel anxious or angry about mobilisation, poll indicates
heh
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/more-than-half-russians-feel-anxious-or-angry-about-mobilisation-poll-indicates-2022-09-29/

>conducted from Sept. 22-28, 47% of respondents said they had felt anxiety, fear or dread following President Vladimir Putin's announcement on Sept. 21.
>Another 13% said they had felt anger, while 23% said they had felt pride in Russia.
>The poll was conducted among 1,631 Russians aged 18 or over in 50 regions.
>poll released by the independent Levada Centre on Thursday.

In some areas Ukraine seems to be advancing (north), some areas seem to be static. May the war end soon.

Glory to Ukraine!
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No. 82447 Kontra
2,3 MB, 394 × 720, 0:27
>>82442
Wtf am I reading? A real post from Hungary? Must be by the G*rman visitor...

>We're going to have a "national consultation"
What a strange concept. Bost something about the contents when it arrives, I'm interested.
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No. 82448
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No. 82450 Kontra
>>82447
It's dont. Cannot keep up with the war while exploring the City. Though i think I looked at live maps. Thank dog every place has WiFi these days.
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No. 82451 Kontra
16 kB, 384 × 285
>>82450
So you are the tourist? Suddenly my interest is gone.
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No. 82452 Kontra
One of the most truly fanatic Z heads I ever had the privilege to speak with has stopped any outward sign of jingoism. This was a Russian in Germany who well into June spoke about Ukrainian civilians awaiting liberation from the rapidly disintegrating Kiev junta whose last rabid nationalists had been systematically destroyed over the course of the special military operation via operational precision missile strikes. After the counteroffensive, he spoke about temporary gains and what had to be an astronomical and unsustainable number of Ukrainian losses that would prove to be the basis for the next great Russian offensive. Now he speaks about "mismanagement" and my personal appeals for patriotic self-mobilization go unanswered. despite the ultraimperialist rhetoric and thirst for swinecutting, he is a good guy overall

Domestically, our aptly named PCP is just as strongly condemning Russophobic war profiteering as it did in February. Their principled refusal to condemn the war continues to cause isolation between the politburo and the electorate. In contrast, the Maoists have had their bank account frozen seized due to a decades long tax evasion shenanigan internally they face more instability brought on by the increasingly elaborate accusations of factionalism and counter revolutionary sabotage - but this fringe party still maintains a more sensible stance on this war "orchestrated by competing imperialist powers". They ask soldiers to stop fighting each other for their capitalist overlords. PCP's recent interventions on the topic have all been demands that European powers stop prolonging this conflict with their providing of arms to a fascist junta.
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No. 82455 Kontra
>>82447
It's kind of a sham in practice because of the way the questions are worded ("Soros is raping children and he wants to rape Hungarian children too, do you support this?") but the concept itself is fine.
As I said, if it's a "national consultation" that means Orbán probably already decided to go through with a policy and he just needs the ballots to use them as a giant middle finger internationally to prove he is "carrying out the will of the people".
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No. 82456 Kontra
5 kB, 251 × 240
>Magila= grave
>Mobilizatsya= mobilisation
>Magila + mobilizatsya = magilazatsya
Thx for the cheap chuckle, Youtube comment section.
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No. 82457 Kontra
>>82456
It's spelled "mogila" (having standard Russian akanye in mind, ~magila vs. ~mabilizatsiya, 1-sound difference).
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No. 82458 Kontra
107 kB, 700 × 561
>>82457
It's all the same to me, I mean I speak moloko like malako or maloko like a proper.TM Russian.
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No. 82459
>>82458
Actually, it's "malaka", and that's greek.
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No. 82461
>>82442
>but they sure as fuck don't want to pay 80% of their paychecks for utilities in the name of "democracy".
>They don't like Russia that much
And whenever you are not good and do what Russia wants, they will threaten to turn off the gas again.
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No. 82462
>>82458
Do you also say kanzert instead of konzert?
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No. 82463
8 kB, 246 × 278
>>82461
Ssssh! Orban likes Putong, also Soros evil!

>>82462
Fucking Russians are everywhere! Kanzert if I speak Russian, Konzert and concert if I speak German or English, duh!
t. slav pro
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No. 82464 Kontra
5 kB, 493 × 402
>>82462
Wait, if you and I >>82463 are Russian, do we even have proper German Germans here?
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No. 82465
>>82446
> May the war end soon.
The only way it can end soon is through the nuclear apocalypse. Putin (via Peskov) states that at least he needs all of Donetsk oblast, but a half of it is a fortified district controlled by Ukraine. Ukraine, in turn, states that the referendums make peace talks impossible. Everything tells us it's going to last until the next year at the very least. Or, well, alternatively it's going to end soon, with some help from the US.
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No. 82466 Kontra
>>82461
No. Just because people don't want to freeze for Ukraine/democracy/European values it doesn't mean that they think the SMO is justified. It's not binary. They don't think it's justified but it's not like they were asked if they want to do something about it, and if you asked most of them, they'd do away with the sanctions because it fucks up their budgets and quality of life. (Especially in rural areas.)
And no, they don't care about sob stories about Ukrainians dying published by the Guardian. Everyone has problems.

People are used to cheap utilities because Orbán put price control in place through nationalising infrastructure, and everything was exceptionally cheap thanks to subsidised utilities.
Now the government can no longer afford this program, so they cut it back severely.
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No. 82467
>>82462
>Do you also say kanzert instead of konzert?
[kɐnˈʦɛrt], to be precise.
The main point is that regardless of the actual pronunciation (which is actually just schwas in most positions), /a/ and /o/ merge in all unstressed positions - minus loaned vocalic combinations (radio, video etc.) where /o/ is just somewhat reduced but keeps its rounding.
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No. 82468 Kontra
>>82463
Not a Russian, only know watched Moscow doesn't believe in tears. Some girl schools another girl about pronouncing it the Russian way, who then schools her bf about it. 'and you call yourself a muscovite'. I only grasped it on second viewing, though, since I don't speak Russian and they subtitled it all concert.

But damn me if those soviet melodrams aren't long winded and WIE IM RUSSENFILM.
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No. 82469
channel 1420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YarNZ5YKNU
Really good and so are the comments.

>>82465
Well, yes, but my wishful thinking and all...
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No. 82470 Kontra
>>82468
>alte Sovietschinken
>old stale soviet movie
bleghs
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No. 82471
>>82467
>which is actually just schwas in most positions)
I have a schwa-incompetence. I can tell e-schwa from a-schwa, which most Germans can't, but e-schwa sounds like e to me and I can only hear a difference between a-schwa and a in stressed positions. So what you tell me only makes sense from a purely theoretical pov. Thanks for the effort, though. I will try to keep it in mind.
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No. 82472 Kontra
>>82470
Sorry to have offended you with my overly positive review of a soviet movie.
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No. 82473 Kontra
51 kB, 402 × 284
>>82472
It's just that I am traumatized, grandparents watched this crap 24/7, I just cannot
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No. 82474 Kontra
46 kB, 567 × 571
>>82473
And to add: They also watched Russian TV cancerte AND Schlager aka Musikantenstadl and so on if no Soviet Movie in the TV was blasting my brain.
I suffer(ed) with Deutschrussen family.
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No. 82475 Kontra
25 kB, 385 × 415
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No. 82476 Kontra
>>82475
You know I have a feeling that if Hitler had won WW2 these things would've still have happened and been put on TV regardless.
There is no alt-history scenario short of nuclear war where you can prevent this.
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No. 82477 Kontra
>>82476
I scrolled through the video, I take the nuclear holocaust.
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No. 82478
>>82477
It already happened. It was destined.
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No. 82479
>>82468
>But damn me if those soviet melodrams aren't long winded
Never could force myself to watch them in full, frankly.
Complex works like Big School-Break (damn if anyone could ever accurately determine its genre, but overall it's a hybrid of a melodrama and a Soviet lyrical comedy) or Beware of the Car (another drama-comedy) may be more interesting, though.
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No. 82480
>>82457
>>82467
As I understand, in Russian unstressed vowels don't matter, you can pronounce them as you want, and it's one of few dialectical differences of Russian language: Maaaaskovites say "a", on Volga they say "o".

I suspect that you're English teacher in school, in which I used to study. =D
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No. 82481
>>82480
>As I understand, in Russian unstressed vowels don't matter, you can pronounce them as you want
Well, not exactly (/u/ almost always stands, and there are some more nuances), but overall it's sufficiently close to that.
>I suspect that you're English teacher in school
God forbid.
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No. 82482 Kontra
>>82476
>You know I have a feeling that if Hitler had won WW2 these things would've still have happened and been put on TV regardless.
Some of it would have happened even harder. For example everything that has Marika Rökk and Peter Alexander.
https://youtu.be/Nx5wFs4RGIE
That would have happened with Hitler in the audience and applauding. He would have just loved that shit.
Volkstümlicher Schlager? I don't know. Maybe it might have been considered 'impure' with its negative and parasitic influence on choirs singing proper German folk songs.

>>82479
I guess our viewing habits are different from what audiences were and we are attuned to a different tempo and different narrative styles. I watched one other one, Afonya. Then I had enough.

>>82480
>I suspect that you're English teacher in school
Nah, I'm just some guy doing stuff with computers.
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No. 82483 Kontra
>>82451
Interest in what?

t. Dourist
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No. 82484 Kontra
96 kB, 734 × 1123
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No. 82485
Very interesting analysis about the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6UiEXrVrvg
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No. 82486
71 kB, 608 × 1447
>>82355
Oh I don't know about Russia being allowed to hold any illegally annexed territory. To allow this rather undoes the most fundamental principle of the Post-War international system.

Instead there could be a move to protect the general rights of minorities in Ukraine, including Russian, from Ukrainian jingoism with the west standing in to twist Ukraine's nipples if they start misbehaving (given how utterly dependant Kiev will be). Long-term, Russian as a language is dead in Ukraine at this point anyway so there's no need for such naked linguistic nationalism that you force nursing homes to use Ukrainian yet hypocritically adhere to the protection of languages in the European Union.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine
The European Union should also regard Russian as an official language

Everyone declares victory and goes home, armchair lawyers have a lucrative new industry and we get to live in a world of national sovereignty that is underpinned by human rights.

>integrating Russia into the international order

I think that fundamentally if we want to do this it needs the Putin regime to fall but it also needs a serious commitment from the West to foster Russian liberal prosperity. This will be immensely difficult given the economic circumstances the world is in but the vacuum after Putin will also be an immense battlespace between Russian nationalism, meme politics, Sino-Turkish-Iranian influence and a fringe pro-western minority. A victory having the potential to finally bring peace in Europe until the North and Irish Sea War of 2030. The US can't be trusted to lead here, it would be for Europe's great powers, Japan and to a lesser extent all of Russia's neighbours to create a sensible middle class Russia that maintain a kind of Eurasian concert.

The Polish and Baltic butthurt will be worth it. We might actually have to denazify Poland.

>>82396
Isn't this easy?

Crimea belongs to Ukraine.
Karabakh belongs to Azerbaijan. And maybe Azeris and Armenians could have lived in peace without Russian covert operations.
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No. 82487
368 kB, 800 × 610
>>82097
agh, poor guy
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No. 82493 Kontra
>>82089
>These images are oddly familiar looking...
These images look like average barracks, whatever their purpose might be.
>>82098
>>A woman with a thick Ukrainian accent
With a stretch one can believe it takes place in Russia, buuuut...
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No. 82494
>>82464
Well, I have ukie blood, but I have no connections there, just some inexplicable urge to hurt russians.
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No. 82495
An appeal to keep the Finnish border open from Maxim Katz
>An appeal to the Finnish Government / Maxim Katz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30aSVQENISw
bonus: German Russian-tier English.
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No. 82496
>>81996
Everyone claims the referenda to be fake because they saw a video with a woman who counta ballots without looking at them. But maybe those were already sorted and she is just counting? Western media does everything to discredit referenda, but when the were actual videos of ballots being destroyed during the 'Biden election', it was all a non-issue, and dumb sheeple just live with the contradiction. Doubleplusgood doublethink, goodthinkful duckspeak. 1984 is now, and sheeple are to dumb to see it. Hope the West will collapse hard. The GmbH must be destroyed.
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No. 82498
It was obviously the murrishits who destroyed Northstream I+II. They wanted to make sure that population pressure and uprisings during the coming blackouts and total deindustrialization in Germany could not force the German "government" to come crawling back to Russia. Now that is impossible. The murrishits warned of attacks on Northstream (read: blackmailed Germany), and they had ships in the area. It is obvious. Yet, German sheeple are stockholmed so hard, they believe Russia did it because they saw it on the televisor. NPC sees something on the televisor, NPC believes it to be fact. Dumb sheeple are unable to think and draw conclusions. They believe even the biggest lies without questioning.

Next thing, the murritards are going to blow up some German gas storages, that has also been announced. (German infrastructure will be targeted, they said it!). Unless, of course, Germany totally guts the sad, pathetic remains of the weak, incompetent NATO-Army "Bundeswehr" to support the ukrop-junta cia put in place in Kiew.

German so-called government is just the management of a ltd company called 'Federal Republic of Germany - Finance Agency', you can look that up. Germans do not have IDs, either, but literally staff badges, 'personalausweis', yet they are non the wiser. Germans are the most stupid people in death, Napoleon said it. They believe any and all LIES.
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No. 82499
>>82496
>Everyone claims the referenda to be fake
I think whether they're fake or not is entirely irrelevant in the first place. What could be the legitimacy of a referendum in the middle of a military operation with no civil law whatsoever, when the locals are either scared to vote against or just have fled?
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No. 82500 Kontra
>>82499
You are talking to a troll.
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No. 82501
>>82499
So you are saying it does not matter if it was fake elections or not. Why would you say this? Obviously, because you know the referanda to be fair. Because you know there was no trickery. Otherwise, you would have just said 'Putler cheated' and be done with it. But you know that this argument is weak, because there was no cheating, so you grasp at other straws.

But I will address the points.
Why would they be scared to vote against? Elections were secret, no one would know. If anything, they should be scared to vote 'yes', because IF ukrainian army comes back, they will be tortured and shot as collaborators!

>Or have fled
So they are gone. They have run away to the west. Why should their vote matter?
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No. 82502
>>82500
>Someone not repeating the propaganda in mass-media
>NPC-brain can not parse
>Must be a troll, no one could be this unorthodox in earnest, no one could question dogma
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No. 82503 Kontra
>>82501
>So they are gone. They have run away to the west. Why should their vote matter?
For the sake of the discussion: they're just refugees, not migrants.
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No. 82504 Kontra
170 kB, 1115 × 612
>>82498
>German so-called government is just the management of a ltd company called 'Federal Republic of Germany - Finance Agency', you can look that up. Germans do not have IDs, either, but literally staff badges, 'personalausweis'
All the cool countries have legal conspiracy theories. Soviet citizens, British Freemen, American sovereign citizens and now even the Krauts appparently! Our country is falling behind! Again!
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No. 82505 Kontra
>>82504
>>82504
The BRD GmbH and Reichsbürger nonsense isn't new, irl reichwing imbeciles and meth heads + the internet gave me a peek at least a decade ago, according to the german Wikipedia article the movement is roughly 40 years old.
>One belief of the Reichsbürger is that the Federal Republic of Germany is not an actual sovereign state but a corporation created by Allied nations after World War II. While Donald Trump was president of the United States, movement members adopted QAnon beliefs and expressed their hope that Trump would lead an army to restore the Reich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsb%C3%BCrger_movement
useless garbage and I cannot believe Lardmaster Fatnik imbeciles and brainwashed fox news zombies voted for Trump

Can we return to Ukraine now?
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No. 82507
>>82504
We also have SovCits. Git gud, Portugal.
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No. 82508 Kontra
104 kB, 694 × 448
>>82507
They are all over the Anglosphere, movement was borned in Murka afaik. I wish people could into brain.
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No. 82509 Kontra
362 kB, 1084 × 1513
>>82507
>even Australians have groups founded around esoteric interpretation of the law
If Germans are the most stupid people in death, then what are we? Maybe there is a market niche.
I really think we are too sheepish to ever have such creative theories, culture of peaceful social relations.
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No. 82515 Kontra
49 kB, 520 × 440
>>82505
>expressed their hope that Trump would lead an army to restore the Reich.
True and real lmao
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No. 82516 Kontra
Pynya signed off on the annexation of the 4 Ukrainian regions that aren't even under full control of Russia.
The comedic route would be to demand full Ukrainian withdrawal of their occupied Russian territory or nuclear strike.
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No. 82518
In the meantime, Zelensky applies for NATO membership yet again.
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No. 82525
>>82516
>The comedic route would be to demand full Ukrainian withdrawal of their occupied Russian territory or nuclear strike.
I fail to see what would be comedic about it. Demand immediate withdrawal. If demands are not met, launch one tactical nuke to show you mean business. Wait for withdrawal. Iterate and escalate until demands are met. You think fatmasters are ready to suffer nuclear annihilation for Ukraine? I don't think so. They will do nothing. Russia can only win this. Russia will advance until it meets the first nuclear power, and that is France.
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No. 82526
112 kB, 800 × 536
>Putin unilaterally declares annexation of parts of Ukraine
Doesn't matter, Wect will continue to send weapons.

Prophecy: Putin will go all in and detonate a small suborbital nuke over central Ukraine, knocking out a significant part of UA comms and infrastructure. His old Soviet tanks and American lend-lease troop transporters won't be affected by the EMP and he'll waltz right through to Kiev Ukrainians will be even more determined to kick the Russians out and even China and India will impose sanctions. And he'll face a revolution back home if he uses nukes, can't fight both Ukraine/NATO and Dagestan/Buryatia/Chechnya/all other Churkistan breakaway republics. If he's not stopped by some sort of Stauffenberg in his inner circle first who just wants to end all this.
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No. 82527 Kontra
132 kB, 1280 × 813
>>82525
>They will do nothing.
It's true, weaklings would naturally assume a submissive position.

Also, the Donetsk cauldron stories closing is true. Lyman encircled.
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No. 82530
>>82525
>Russia will advance until it meets the first nuclear power, and that is France.

France would defend Germany with their nukes if they were attacked:
https://www.rt.com/news/449407-macron-merkel-aachen-treaty/ (even the Russians acknowledge this)

Nah man, even if Russians would just claim one cm² of Poland or of the Baltic States NATO Article 5 would automatically kick in (even if they attacked Finland, they're not part of NATO yet but they already signed a defence treaty). And even IF the US chickened out and were all "nah, fuck that shit" (which they would probably have under Trump, thank D-g Putin decided to invade while a somewhat reasonable President with a clear worldview was in office) we'd still have the UK and France as nuclear powers who would be obliged to fight back, probably even with nukes. Even without nukes the conventional militaries of Europe alone could easily hold off Russia, maybe even subdue it. Their military is running on fumes, most of their regular troops died, got wounded or captured in Ukraine and the drunk peasant Volkssturm they're currently recruiting from various Central Asian *stans still under Russian rule won't change the tide of war, on the contrary, and they're pulling fucking lend-lease Studebakers from goddamn WWII off the shelves already. Add the Americans to that and Russia would get leveled twice over, even without firing a single nuke or even having to call a general mobilisation.
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No. 82531
>>82530
>even if Russians would just claim one cm² of Poland or of the Baltic States
Come to think of it, that sounds just like something Putin would do. Send half a dozen guys to Estonia, let them 'occupy' a plot of land next to the border and see how the West reacts because technically that would trigger Article 5. And then be all 'boo hoo Russia dindu nuffin wrong you're overreacting' when NATO actually reacts and, in fact, does trigger Article 5 (or watch in glee as every NATO member parliament debates over how that's actually an actual attack or not, he's proven time and again that he's a master troll).
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No. 82533 Kontra
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20 kB, 303 × 335
>"The bodies of dead civilians are still at the scene, inside or next to six cars. Another minibus was completely burned, four bodies, including the body of a child, are lying on the seats. Nearby is a cream-colored Lada with an open trunk, a man in a hat and blue jeans is lying next to it, next to an abandoned bag. In the back seat of a blue car, an old woman curled up in a coat, as if fast asleep.
Chessmaster, what done? For what purpose? At least he will forever be remembered.
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No. 82534
>>82533
Civilians accidentally die in wars all the time. But, of course, the West will do everything to blow it out of proportion as a part of its little information war. Somehow it wasn't very interested in many thousands of civilians dying in Iraq or Afghanistan, not even in hundreds of Serbian civilians in 1999. Ukrainians, however, are now temporarily getting the privileges of real humans.

As fro Putin, he'll burn for all of that all right, but it isn't the main point now. Now we need just to end it somehow. Anyway, I have a hunch that it won't happen before I'll be leaving to die in Ukrainian steppes this winter (maybe a little bit later, but a second wave of mobilization is very likely either way).
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No. 82536 Kontra
>>82534
>Serbian civilians
NATO's actions in the Yugo collapse are incomparable to this monkey war. Why die in Ukraine if you can die at home?
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No. 82537
>>82536
>Why die in Ukraine if you can die at home?
State gives your parents a new Lada sans ABS or airbags if you die on the Ukraine
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No. 82538
>>82534
>Civilians accidentally die in wars all the time. But, of course, the West will do everything to blow it out of proportion as a part of its little information war. Somehow it wasn't very interested in many thousands of civilians dying in Iraq or Afghanistan, not even in hundreds of Serbian civilians in 1999. Ukrainians, however, are now temporarily getting the privileges of real humans.
That was over 20 years ago, about half of the population in voting age has changed since then. I was against invading Iraq from the beginning and thank Gas-Gerd for NOT pulling Germany into this quagmire Does Ernst even have proxy balls? t. refugee from Waldemarchan, even if that was his ONLY good decision in his eight years in power. I was in elementary school when all the Yugo shit started, wasn't really able to form a distinct opinion back then.

>As fro Putin, he'll burn for all of that all right, but it isn't the main point now. Now we need just to end it somehow. Anyway, I have a hunch that it won't happen before I'll be leaving to die in Ukrainian steppes this winter (maybe a little bit later, but a second wave of mobilization is very likely either way).
Nah man. Try to get to the EU on foot or via Asia, we (at least Germany) will take in deserters with open arms (and while Polish and Baltic embassies will probably give you shit they'll most probably transfer you to our embassy). And if you get drafted, try to desert whenever there's the possibility. Anyhow, stay safe man.
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No. 82539 Kontra
>>82537
But it's officially Russia now.
Do terms and conditions still apply?
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No. 82540
>>82536
>NATO's actions in the Yugo collapse are incomparable to this monkey war.
The scale may be different. The morality of the situation, however, doesn't change in the slightest.
>>82537
>State gives your parents
Sorry, no parents. Literally no one is going to benefit from my death. But maybe I'll help some of my moronic compatriots survive. Or at least I won't have to look later in the eyes of quite a lot of people from our side - those who will shed their blood regardless, or those who will lose their friends and husbands there.
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No. 82541
>>82539
Interesting question. Probably not, if you die on officially Russian territory it's probably ruled an accident and your next of kin get minimal compensation, if anything.
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No. 82542
>>82540
> Sorry, no parents.
That's sad, regards sadfrogs

>Literally no one is going to benefit from my death.
Putin will for maybe two seconds before he sends another poor soul into the meat grinder

>But maybe I'll help some of my moronic compatriots survive. Or at least I won't have to look later in the eyes of quite a lot of people from our side - those who will shed their blood regardless, or those who will lose their friends and husbands there.
Helping anyone survive is generally considered a good move. Not shooting each other is widely accepted as a good option for achieving this. And if they force you... well, I posted options. Any other ideas?
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No. 82543
>>82525
> 7-th month of victorious 3-day-long "special operation"
> Russia is negatively advancing near Liman
> Schizo still dreams about mighty Russian dick liberating him in Germany
Impossible.
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No. 82544
>>82542
> Not shooting each other is widely accepted as a good option for achieving this.
Except it's not achievable in the state of war with hundreds of thousands of people objectively shooting at each other, with choices (moral included) being extremely limited.
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No. 82545
>>82544
Tell me about it. I've read (and first-handedly heard) enough about my grand- and great-grand-parents talking about how they killed someone just because they were ordered to.

If you must, you must, no doubt about it. If there's some other armed conscript on the other side who doesn't want to shoot you but has to nonetheless you're not in the wrong if you're the first to pull the trigger, that's self-defence in every judge's eye. Sucks for everyone involved but that's war. It's shit, but that's how it is and always has been and always will be. But if you shoot unarmed civilians and/or combatants who have laid down their weapons and are obviously surrendering it's inexcusable. The other day the NYT published snippets of phone calls of Russian soldiers who were involved in the failed assault on Kyiv:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/28/world/europe/russian-soldiers-phone-calls-ukraine.html
A guy confessed to his gf that he killed three guys because his superiors told him to. She asked him why they just hadn't take them prisoners and he just replied that they'd have to feed them because they've only been issued MREs for 10 days and they've already used them up.

Let that sink in for a while.

Feeding POWs is a matter of course, no matter basic human decency. MREs for 10 days? Doesn't even cover the occupation after the three-day war. Putin doesn't give half a shit about his soldiers.
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No. 82546 Kontra
>>82540
>The morality of the situation, however, doesn't change in the slightest.
Illegal intervention in a civil collapse that infamously killed up to 2000 civilians in urban bombings vs monkey war with monkey methods for monkey reasons. I don't know how >belgrade got so ingrained in dialogue that its used as a counterpoint to 7 months of this monkey war.
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No. 82548
68 kB, 500 × 506
>>82546

>I don't know how >belgrade got so ingrained in dialogue that its used as a counterpoint to 7 months of this monkey war. 

See
>>82538
That's something our parents and grandparents decided (supposedly). Nobody seriously contests the outcome of the World Wars, the 30 Years War or the conquest of Germania by the Romans today. The cards have been dealt and you're supposed to play them by the rules, not flip over the table, piss on it and draw a revolver in everyone's face FFS.
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No. 82553 Kontra
36 kB, 487 × 495
Incredible how when Ukrainian civilian casualties are mentioned some vatnik always comes in with the classic damage control of "civilians accidentally die in wars all the time". Wect is just doing infowars! Doesn't matter if you drop dumb bombs on a city, use "precision" weapons of civ convoys, rape and murder civilians. These things just happen! What's the big deal?

Eat shit, fucker!
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No. 82554
>>82487
What is this device? Rooster containment facility?
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No. 82555 Kontra
>>82546
>Illegal intervention in a civil collapse that infamously killed up to 2000 civilians in urban bombings
Oh wow, I couldn't even imagine a best illustration of double standards.
  • urban bombings: check
  • illegal intervention: check
  • the total amount of civilians suffering as the ultimate result of the intervention exceeding the amount before it: check

Ah, but I've obviously forgot the key difference: the first intervention was made by the white knights of democratic light to save the world for the greater justice, and the second by monkey orcs from Mordor just for lulz.
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No. 82556
>>82553
>Incredible how when Ukrainian civilian casualties are mentioned some vatnik always comes in with the classic damage control of "civilians accidentally die in wars all the time".
Well, you should thank your mass media and, ultimately, your people of power who have weaponized those casualties. It's not me who has turned them into a political tool. The reaction from the other side of the front lines is entirely natural, isn't it?
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No. 82567 Kontra
>>82555
*a better illustration. Nevermind, I underlept again, hence occasional intrusions of Runglish.
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No. 82576 Kontra
>>82555
>amount of civilians suffering as the ultimate result of the intervention exceeding the amount before it
False!
Still, thats not even the main point, they were two interventions different in scope and rationale. Incomparable.
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No. 82577
>Anglos bomb and invade Iraq for Made Up reason (Google incubator lie,)
>good
>Anglos bomb Serbia for made-up reason
>good
>anglos bomb and invade Afghanistan for made up reason (9-11 fake, kerosene can not melt steel)
>good
>Anglos bomb and invade Iraq for made-up reason again (weapons of mass destruction(
>Good
>People in Ukraine attacked on street for speaking Russian, speaking Russian is made illegal, genocide of Russians start, Russia invades to protect ethnic Russians
>Bad
Western media is full of lies and westerners are stupid and believe the lies, even when they are presented with the truth, they still believe the lies.
Europe is weak and scared of Russia, so they accept American occupation and hope the Fatmastersc will defend them. Every Russian knows that Europe is pathetic and gay
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No. 82578 Kontra
116 kB, 540 × 637
>>82577
A simple worldview. You have it.
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No. 82579
>>82577
>People in Ukraine attacked on street for speaking Russian
Well, if they haven't been before, they sure as hell are today. And rightfully so.
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No. 82580 Kontra
>>82578
A troll. You fed him.
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No. 82581
34 kB, 390 × 254
>>82578
Then educate me. What, for example, is a more nuanced view in weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? Explain to me, in non-simplistic terms and from all angles, who is the young woman in the photograph?
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No. 82583
757 kB, 828 × 1186
276 kB, 828 × 626
>>82452
> patriotic self-mobilization
Lockdowns in Russia were officially called "self-isolation". "Partial mobilization" deserves to be called self-mobilization because conscripts have to buy equipment besides rusty AKs for themselves.
Picrelated: mother is angry at merchant who raised prices 6 times, using surge of demand.

>>82351
> what is the plan to integrate Russia into the international order so we're not here again in 30 years?
After NATO forces liberate Russia, they should use its territory and population for "Russian field of experiments". Humanities suffer from lack of verifiability and replicability, and massive social experiments will help with this. In one region you forbid males to take any positions of power, and test what happens if matriarchy. In other you try to build ancapistan. In third -- technocommunism. And so on.
This of course won't affect Karelia, which will become comfy and boring social-democracy (under Finnish rule).
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No. 82592
>>82583
>"Partial mobilization" deserves to be called self-mobilization because conscripts have to buy equipment besides rusty AKs for themselves.
>Picrelated: mother is angry at merchant who raised prices 6 times, using surge of demand.
That's an anecdote. The plural of anecdote is not evidence.

Fascists love to spread rumours about ill equipped Russian troops, the Nazis did that. German conscripts heard propaganda lies about Russians attacking with shovels and axes on the Volksempfänger, but when they arrived at the front line, things were different.
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No. 82593 Kontra
175 kB, 535 × 798
>>82583
> In one region you forbid males to take any positions of power, and test what happens if matriarchy. In other you try to build ancapistan. In third -- technocommunism. And so on.
>This of course won't affect Karelia, which will become comfy and boring social-democracy (under Finnish rule).
Exquisite, 11/10
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No. 82595
>>82592
You are most probably schizo on copium, who's not worth explaining to, but I'll assume the best about you.
  1. There are multiple reports from equipment stores about huge deficit and raising prices, including loyalist media.
  2. Popular loyalist web-pages post guides "what to buy for mobilization".
  3. Few ill-equipped units wouldn't cause x6 prices in online stores. You need to have this phenomena en masse to affect market prices.
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No. 82602
70 kB, 471 × 472
Ukraine is taking the north, the rest remains rather static...
Freedom for Ukraine, Russia, Belorussia, down with the Putin regime.
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No. 82603
56 kB, 437 × 600
Putin blamed "anglo-saxons" for North Stream explosions. Make Britain Celt again!

>>82602
So, "Red Liman" is now "Liman" again.
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No. 82604
340 kB, 1227 × 1174
Is it true? According to this statistics, main provider of land-lease is Russia.
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No. 82605
5 kB, 251 × 240
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No. 82606
76 kB, 576 × 838
>>82604
I haven't been following the numbers of vehicles provided by the Wect, but the Russian ones in that picture are pretty accurate. But, a captured vehicle is not always an usable vehicle. Some might only need fuel or small repairs like fixing broken tracks or wheels, but others are so badly damaged they'll only be used for parts. So the true number of workable vehicles provided is unknown (to me at least).

You can find documented Russian losses from:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html
And Ukrainian losses:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-ukrainian.html

This time a honorable mention to Portugal for providing M113 for Ukraine, as presented in picrel. Allegedly, there are way too many M113 variants and users for me to tell the difference.
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No. 82607
>>82602
What makes you think the Scholz-regime is so superior to the Putin-regime? At least everyone knows that Putin is President of Russia, no doubt about it exists! But no one knows what Scholz is!

Is it because you love to have unaffordable heating- and electricity-bills? Or is it because you like seeing homos kiss each other in public and hold their disgusting homo-parades? Or is it because you love how it bankrupts German companies? Or is it the government propaganda channels for which we are forced to pay a TV tax of 50€ a month while the entire boards of all the regional stations have multiple chauffered cars at their disposal? Or is it the lack of freedom of speech, the censorship where we are not allowed to speak out about immigrants and refugees! Is it the way they want to make Germany less and less German and more and more brown-skined? How they silenced Pegida and spread counter-propaganda? How they forced people to take the vaccine? At least 2/3 if the German population have been sterilized with the COVID vaxx and can not procreate! The women are either sterile or their children will be sterile! This is a genocide! Two years after they began spreading the poisons, they now admit that post-vac syndrome exists! See https://www.sueddeutsche.de/gesundheit/corona-medizin-impfung-post-vac-erschoepfung-nebenwirkungen-1.5655820
Debunked by the government fact-checkers means confirmed!
The German government is the management of a Ltd. This is a fact. Your ID is just an employee badge. They even call it that. Personal Auswris-personnel identification. Even the police if this ridiculous pathetic non-country is just a company! The police officers are not officers at all, just employees of private security companies pretending to be police! For example, they do not call their Uniform Uniform, but Dienstkleidung-service clothing! See https://youtu.be/m2NlIJsPYRY
No police officer will confirm with his signature that he even is an officer! They all refuse!

Even the German Bundestag has a tax-ID! It is DE 122119035. If the parliament has a tax-ID, it is a private company!

Germany does not even have a constitution, just a so-called basic law. The basic law is not called 'Basic Law of The Federal Republic of Germany', but 'Basic Law for the Federal Republic if Germany'! It contains such gems as
>Bundesrat ist von der Bundesregierung über die Führung der Geschäfte auf dem laufenden zu halten.
the Bundesrat is to be kept up to date on the administration of business by the federal government
>(3) ist der Bundeskanzler, auf Ersuchen des Bundeskanzlers oder des Bundespräsidenten ein Bundesminister verpflichtet, die Geschäfte bis zur Ernennung seines Nachfolgers weiterzuführen.
... it is the duty of the federal chancellor, on request of the federal president, and the duty of a federal minister, on request of the federal president or the federal chancellor, to conduct business until a successor is appointed.

At least Russia is a country with a government, not a private company with a management that pretends to be a government!

By the way, take a look at your ID. It says 'nationality: German'. Ann American ID days 'united states of America'. Ann Italian ID says 'republica italiana', a German I'd says German, not 'federal republic of Germany. That is because a federal republic of Germany is not a state!

But you dare to speak of a Putin-Regime!
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No. 82608 Kontra
213 kB, 450 × 307
I love that one of the German Ernsts writes philippics against the Wect because that means I don't have to.
Dog bless.
Preach it nigga.
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No. 82609 Kontra
>>82606
>This time a honorable mention to Portugal for providing M113 for Ukraine
Feels bad we didn't send better things. I suppose the risk of a Spanish invasion is still far too high!
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No. 82610
Killyourselfsky is a meaningless figurehead if the cua.
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No. 82611
179 kB, 510 × 361
German Michel is hugging a nuclear plant.
American cowboy says
>Damned you shall buy your energy from me! Leave that alone or I will break it like Zaporozhye!
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No. 82612
>>81996
The "federal Smurf" scholz says:
>Your wish is my order
as he presses the button
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No. 82613
167 kB, 510 × 361
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No. 82614
190 kB, 510 × 361
>>82613
>Who is the dynamite-devil?
>Must be the same who blew up flight MH-217
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No. 82615
167 kB, 510 × 361
>>82614
>What a nightmare!
>A democratic vote I can not prevent or manipulate!
T-shirt says 'value-West'
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No. 82616
How anyone can not hate the west and it's disgusting bigoted lies is beyond me.
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No. 82617 Kontra
6,3 MB, 270 × 480, 1:36
BING BONG Cleanup on threda #14 please.

>>82609
Indeed, same for us. Though like said before, you can't choose when the war comes to you. The function of an army and its equipment is to protect the homeland. Never know when Spaniards or Swedes decide to strike.
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No. 82618
>>82617
You still believe the lies of western media and the western governments and you are not enraged by their incompetence and their audacity? Can't you see how it's all fake?

Western states are pseudo-democracies. They do not have governments, but ruling elites who oppress and exploit. In Russia, they openly say that the west is ruled by gates, sorros and Rockefeller. The war in Ukraine is part of a war if the globalists against countries like Venezuela, Russia and Iran. It is about whether the globalists will rule those countries or their legitimate governments. The Globalists what to destroy all nations and their national culture, so they can not allow national governments.

Can you not see this or do you think it is good? Do you want the world to be filled by the globalist elites? The people who brought us refugees and the plandemic and this energy crisis where people will go bankrupt because they can not afford to heat their homes?

Are you evil or just brainwashed?
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No. 82619
They spread such lies about the referendums. Here is a report of a German WHO was present as an international observer, Not from some corrupt pro-western source. You can Google translate it. Short version: it was all very fair and transparent, Evertrainer Gates the Ukrainians who bomb schools, they are happy to be Russians now, prices for heat and petrol have come down...

https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/kurzbericht-ueber-das-referendum-und-ein-paar-tage-sendepause/
https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/mordanschlag-auf-meine-beobachtergruppe-vereitelt/
https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/erster-bericht-ueber-die-beobachtung-des-referendums/

The western Media dies mit Tell sich Things. They also so Brot sowas about ukrainian men Fleeing cinscriptuon, about ukrainian Press-Gangs Picking Up Teenagers in the streets, about barbed wire in the borde to Romania, about bribes paid to get out of Ukraine

only about Russian men trying to flee conscription. Western media is full of propaganda a d lies, but no one grasps it, because people are dumb, soooooo dumb, dumb fucking sheeple
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No. 82622 Kontra
47 kB, 810 × 540
>>82617
Oprichnik's day.
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No. 82624 Kontra
>>82614
This is so funny because the US has no way of operating in the Baltic sea. The only ones who have are Russia, Finland, Sweden, Poland and Denmark. So either one of Germanys European allies blew it up or Russia did it.
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No. 82628 Kontra
449 kB, 432 × 244, 0:08
3,7 MB, 640 × 368, 0:41
Lyman
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No. 82629 Kontra
>>82619
You shouldn't try to cope with alcohol. I've been getting shitefaced all weekend long and your gibberish is still indecipherable to me
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No. 82630 Kontra
>>82629
t. Germ on vacation
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No. 82632 Kontra
42 kB, 600 × 784
1,7 MB, 193 × 240, 0:07
218 kB, 1000 × 1117
94 kB, 680 × 960
For no reason, here are all the image files I possess which contain the word 'schizo'.

Fourth is my favourite t. Proud Sleeper Operative of the CCRU
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No. 82633
83 kB, 404 × 580
>>82361
A comic from the 70s/80s told the story of how rock and roll was invented in the deepest military bases in USSR to subvert the west. It ended up with a choir of gulag prisoners singing "Be bop a lula" for the new recording

tiktok.jpg
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No. 82634
128 kB, 584 × 365
>>82603
>Putin blamed "anglo-saxons" for North Stream explosions. Make Britain Celt again!

Putin is beginning to know too much about what's really happening. If he keeps digging he will not be long for this erda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_(medieval)

>>82602
My many hours playing HOI seems to agree with Binkov's assessment. The front won't change the war but from a geographic standpoint it extends the Ukrainian line and bogs down troops. It could be pyrrhic victory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ceaT9HynI
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No. 82640
>>82624
> US has no way of operating in the Baltic sea
They probably rented a boat and manned it with navy seals in civilian clothes.

American did this to gain some time and suck as much money out of Europe as possible, to prevent their own financial collapse for some more years. But inevitably their collapse will be much worse. Every American now has five creepy cards on average! The country is practically bankrupt, this is why they want to force is to buy their gas!

Of course, our media does not tell us this, they try to keep the facts hidden, they lie to us night and day, and sheeple believe them!
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No. 82641
>>82640
>creepy cards
Should be credit cards, but it's fitting, since the kikes use credit cards to spy on people and even children have them now.
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No. 82644
>Germany will deliver the first of four advanced IRIS-T air defence systems to Ukraine in the coming days to help ward off drone attacks, its defence minister Christine Lambrecht said during an unannounced visit to Odessa on Saturday. "In a few days, we will deliver the very modern IRIS-T air defence system," she told ARD television. "It is very important for drone defence in particular." Ukraine has been seeing more attacks from Iranian-made kamikaze drones in recent weeks, costing lives and causing serious damage to infrastructure. It first emerged in May that Berlin was considering sending the IRIS-T surface-to-air defence system, which costs 150 million euros ($147 million) apiece. The German armed forces themselves do not currently own the system, reckoned among the world's most advanced.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-says-it-will-supply-ukraine-with-air-defence-system-days-2022-10-01/

>Germany will "probably" extend the runtime of two of its three remaining nuclear power plants until April, Economy Minister Robert Habeck said Tuesday, blaming energy supply issues in France for the decision. He also announced more money for ailing German energy suppliers — something that could require Finance Minister Christian Lindner to suspend the country's constitutionally enshrined debt brake for an additional year. Linder, with the liberal Free Democrats, has been pressing to extend the life of Germany's remaining reactors. Germany's energy emergency is forcing Habeck to backtrack on a key principle of his Green party. The original plan was to shutter Germany's three remaining reactors by the end of the year, but earlier this month, he opened the door for two of them — Isar 2 and Neckarwestheim — to be activated in an emergency.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-set-to-extend-nuclear-power-due-to-much-worse-energy-situation-in-france/
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No. 82646
82644
>Pressure mounts on Germany’s Scholz to send tanks to Ukraine

>The warning shots are getting closer and louder. In a heated parliamentary session on Thursday, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz received stark signals from his coalition partners that they expect him to ramp up weapons supplies to Ukraine at what is becoming an increasingly critical inflection point of the war. While his government coalition bought him a little more time in the Bundestag debate and temporarily fended off a critical parliamentary motion expressing a lack of faith in his military support for Ukraine, it is now looking more and more likely Scholz will have to respond to the calls for Europe’s biggest economy to pull its weight when it comes to arming Kyiv more decisively.

>Witheringly, opposition lawmaker Florian Hahn from the center-right Christian Social Union fumed that Germany was only “number 18 in the world” when comparing its military aid for Ukraine relative to the economic output. Hahn noted that Estonia was far ahead of Germany in supplying arms instead of keeping them for national defense, “even though they have a direct border with the Russian Federation.” The center-right Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (CDU/CSU) opposition block had requested a vote on a Bundestag motion that urges the government to “immediately” allow the export of German battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles to Ukraine. That would have been tantamount to a vote of no-confidence in Scholz’s Ukraine strategy, since the chancellor has repeatedly ruled out such deliveries as long as other Western allies don’t deliver similar heavy gear.

>The opposition’s maneuver was particularly dangerous for Scholz and his Social Democratic Party (SPD) because leading politicians from his coalition partners, the Greens and the liberal Free Democratic Party (FDP), have also demanded the delivery of German Leopard battle tanks and Marder infantry fighting vehicles.
https://www.politico.eu/article/german-government-faces-domestic-pressure-to-send-tanks-to-ukraine/

It turns out that turning off energy exports, threatening to nuke Germany and behaving like utter savages has pushed the German Government to breaking point after all. But in quite the opposite direction. Who could have predicted this?
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No. 82647 Kontra
>>82640
> They probably rented a boat and manned it with navy seals in civilian clothes.
That counts as operating in the Baltic sea and they have no way of doing that. You just can't come to terms with the fact that they could not have done this. But whatever, it was probably aliens.
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No. 82648
>>82624
>>82647
Not to defend schizophrenia but the US does have ships operating in the Baltic Sea and presumably the Russian narrative on this is designed to coincide with joint-exercises:
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-nato-sweden-finland-baltic-sea-58115434504cadb60faf758e18817432

You'd have to find some way for the US ships to do covert operations while surrounded by NATO partners but then the US normally provides command and control functions so it might be possible. You could argue the Baltic is one of the most closely monitored bodies of water in the world, so anything would've been spotted and especially submarines after Whiskey on the Rocks, but then the same would hold of any Russian operation.

…Upon reflection the simplest candidate for such an attack would be Sweden. What better way to provoke the other Baltics powers to destroy themselves.
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No. 82652 Kontra
>>82648
> …Upon reflection the simplest candidate for such an attack would be Sweden. What better way to provoke the other Baltics powers to destroy themselves.
I don't think you reflected enough on this matter. Yes we could, no we didn't. Doing so would be considered an attack by Russia and they would not keep quiet about it and they are awfully quite about it. And why would we want the Baltic powers to destroy themselves, that is childish bond villain thinking.

Everybody likes to give the US too much credit. An operation like this isn't something they can pull of in the Baltic without help from a country around it. As you said it is closely monitored waters you just don't hire a boat and go diving, you need to hide your action and even to keep it on a level where you can plausible deny it is difficult. Most likely everybody knows what happened at least on a larger scale but nobody will come out and say it because it would reveal important and secret details of how countries are operating and what capabilities they have.
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No. 82672
56 kB, 736 × 736
296 Bytes, 17 × 18
>>82648
>…Upon reflection the simplest candidate for such an attack would be Sweden

Au contraire. Who has benefitted the most in Europe from high gas prices? Norway. Who has a vested interest in preventing any future gas trade between Europe and Russia? Norway. Who has been suspiciously quiet during this whole affair? Norway. Who has a fleet of six submarines despite having no geopolitical enemies in the world? Norway. Who has the sheer cold-hearted, mercantile cynicism to conduct such an attack? Norway.

The oil-drunk Dutchmen of the Arctic are behind this, mark my words.
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No. 82674
>>82624
>This is so funny because the US has no way of operating in the Baltic sea.
Well funded special services have ways to operate nearly everywhere. And the yearly budget of the CIA alone is about 10% of the total national budget of Ukraine.
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No. 82675
>>82606
>But, a captured vehicle is not always an usable vehicle.
Indeed. That's while "battalions of captured Ukrainian tanks in Donbass" was crap in the first place. (That and the fact that beyond tanks you'd need spare parts and ammunition in huge amounts for continuous fighting.)
>>82576
>False!
More than 200.000 refugees alone, no?.. It would be weird to count only the deaths from bombings.
> they were two interventions different in scope and rationale
How are scopes relevant for morality, and what's so different about the (declared) rationale?
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No. 82676 Kontra
104 kB, 946 × 1027
>>82675
>That's while "battalions of captured Ukrainian tanks in Donbass" was crap in the first place.
How's that crap? Are you aware how many tanks there are in a tank battalion? You might wanna re-check your information. I'd say it's entirely feasible, even when only counting completely usable vehicles. And of course a captured tank is counted as a captured tank. Not somewhere between 0.0000000001 - 1 tanks.
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No. 82679
>>82676
>Are you aware how many tanks there are in a tank battalion?
By the Soviet standards it should be about 30.
But only 475 Ukrainian tanks were damaged (!) in 2014-2015.
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No. 82681 Kontra
881 kB, 382 × 240, 0:24
>>82679
Well, I'm definitely way out of my depth regarding the 2014 war, but at the time Ukraine did have loads of soviet-era tanks stockpiled, some possibly in Donbass. Whether or not those even existed or were evacuated by Ukrainians is unknown to me. But you'd quickly find battalions of tanks from a stockpile if one were there.
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No. 82682
43 kB, 400 × 400
I have questions to you, about POWs in Ukraine and about how civilians can cross the frontline:
  • With partial mobilization underway in the RF and annexed clay, I expect the Ukrainian army to take many more POWs than they already have. How can Ukraine hold all these POWs? Surely, Ukraine won't go the German way and just deny them water, food and shelter, right? Can't outsource this, either, right? Does Ukraine distribute POWs all over western and central Ukraine?
  • And how have civilians been able to cross the frontline? I've been wondering about this before the recent strike on a civilian convoy. How many checkpoints were there at the time of the strike? Have there been many successful crossing before the strike, and have there been any after it? Did they work in both directions? (There must at the very least have been a rough idea of how it might work, or how it is supposed to work, otherwise the convoy wouldn't have assembled.)
I might not be able to reply, so thanks in advance.
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No. 82683 Kontra
>>82682
many successful crossings
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No. 82704
>>82644
>Germany to deliver more weapons to fascist junta, intensifying its armed conflict with Russia
Germany goes deeper into WWIII. Legally, Germany is at war with Russia. Vaxx-minister Klabauterbach admitted it on twitter. According to international law, this assesment is correct.

War is a word that the red federal smurf Scholz, Anal-Lena Bare-Back and the federal minister for incompetence Habeck avoided have tried to avoid for months. At the same time, the bigoted lieing government controlled german media made fun of Russia for talking about "special military operation".

Germany lost WWI. Germany lost WWII. Now, the red-green government, a government that promised peace, affordable housing, etc, has started a war that destroyed tha German economy. Russian TV can only make fun of how pathetic and weak poorope is with their eternal threat of ineffective sanctions, while the European economy has collapsed under sanctions and the Russian economy is doing fine!

After the war, the bellcist German government will be brought to court in trials, and Anal-Lena Bare-Back, the red federal smurf Scholz and the minister for inompetence, Habeck, will all be hanged! Vaxx-minister Klabauterbach probably too!
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No. 82705
>>82646
>europe's biggest economy
>to pull its weight
LOL. The red-green government has completely destroyed the German economy with their insane, megalomaniac war against Russia! The sanctions they put on Russia caused energy costs to spiral out of control, German industry WILL collapse! Their methods of begging the world for gas are completely ineffective! The fracking ban remains in place, nuclear plants are still scheduled to be switched of instead of being re-activated in a crash program!
German de-industrialisation has begun and will only accelerate! German industry is as good as dead and burried, in just a few years, nothing will remain, and instead of solving the problem, government makes it worse!

The red-green criminals probably love this, as it decarbonises Germany. No more industry, commoners can not afford to heat their homes, everyone is shit poor, country has been degraded to third world, Germany effictively decarbonised! This is what the green paleo-communist have been planning for decades, and now, they get it! After a youth brainwashed by communist teachers and communist media have voted them into power! But Anne-Cathrine and Timo all have cushy office bullshit-jobs that achieve nothing, they don't know anything, they have no idea how industry or production or powerplants work, electricity comes out of the outlet, the radiator gets hot, those are laws of nature to them, they are too dumb and stupid to grasp that without natural gas, that is over and they can try to find something edible somewhere, but they will starve. And good riddance to them, the unrecoverably brainwashed useless eaters is what we need to get rid of most!
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No. 82706
>>82672
It was the fatmasters, no doubt it.